Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[tomoraider]

Ah, well, you're supposed to destroy the base in the middle as that is the first quest objective of the map.

 

[MURDER KING]

first i have destroyed some outpost(3) after i have destroyed from the middle,but if must follow binding the objective,than suppost i must try again from the start,thanks.

 

[tomoraider]

Yeah, my mistake because I didn't make it that you can do it the other way around. When I do an update one day, I'll fix this.

 

[kuzdy]

hello, i have problems with loading of Journey to the Sunwell Interlude, it loads me to blackscreen. Any suggestions? thanks

 

[Sclammerz]

I assume you don't have the newest patch, you need the newest patch in order to load the chapter.

 

[kuzdy]

thanks but now i have trouble with finding some warcraft download link that can be updated to 1.26, i had 1.21 which i found out that it cant be updated, can u help? x(

 

[MURDER KING]

Why you don't try wvs follow this link:
http://www.dota-utilities.com/2009/09/warcraft-patch-version-switcher-120-121.html

 

[kuzdy]

i tried wvs though i couldnt figure out how it works , this morning i found patched warcraft to 1.26 and im playin! thank you, interlude has loaded!!!

 

[MURDER KING]

Your pleasure.
May the light shine's upon you!!!!

 

[Homor]

An amazing campaign! Seriously, highly recommended. If you're looking for a great campaign, this is an absolute must-play. This and the author's Rise of the Blood Elves are some custom campaigns you simply need to play at least once in your life.

Seriously. Play this map.

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it, even though I don't think they're that good.

 

[Pavlet]

Amazing campaign series! Thank you ,Tomoraider ,for it. Is there any chance that you will make another one based on Warcraft lore? Hope so)))

 

[Sclammerz]

Amazing campaign series! Thank you ,Tomoraider ,for it. Is there any chance that you will make another one based on Warcraft lore? Hope so)))

I think not. He already explained it on one of his threads.

 

[Dannte]

Can't wait to try it out!

 

[MURDER KING]

Hello Tomoraider i want to put a question if you want to answer: when you do an update on this map you haven't think to change the music something like forsaken i mean from wow.

 

[tomoraider]

Hello Tomoraider i want to put a question if you want to answer: when you do an update on this map you haven't think to change the music something like forsaken i mean from wow.

Nope, sorry. The default undead music fits well.

 

[BiroN]

Ummmm, Tomo... Thanks for the remake, some of the remade maps are really epic but there are a couple of issues so far.

In Chapter 4 there is no way to go to the other side... In other words, Varimathras's base has no way of communication with the middle scarlet base. I had to take it down with Sylvanas's units only. And then there was no way to get land units to Varimathras's base. Seriously, the bridge was still destroyed and the scarlet crusade base was surrounded by unattackable walls. There was no way. But I used many many gargoyles to get through the mission.

In chapter 5 it's really frustrating to use Taurens against frost wyrms and gargoyles... I don't know maybe you can add a flying unit or a ranged unit to the totem?

Chapter 9 is unbeatable... At least in the latest version. Seriously, I literally can't do anything. By the time I've upgraded my town hall to dark castle all my ally bases are destroyed. ALL OF THEM!! Thrall, Lor'Themar, Varian's bases all gone. Then I was attacked by the Vrykuls, Kel'Thusad and the yellow undead base and it was all over.... At least give me a hint on what to do.

I'd also like to point out that the cinematics are awesome. Really they're captivating, with well picked Two Steps from Hell songs. Thumbs up (y)

 

[tomoraider]

Hi, glad you liked it.

In Chapter Four, you get a hint to destroy the walls with meat wagons when you approach them. They're not indestructible.

Chapter Five, you get a tauren shaman that can attack flying units.

Chapter Nine, it is a hard map, IMO the best tactic is to rush the small vrykul base on the west and then play defensively until you have a good army.

 

[BiroN]

Okay. Thanks a lot Tomo. I'll have that in mind and I'll try again.

 

[hauw]

Best altered melee campaign. Some items would be nice.
IMHO i feel the game has proper difficulty but some maps are more challenging than the others.
I wish you would continue your work on Cataclysm. Title it Might of the Horde maybe? :3

 

[tomoraider]

Best altered melee campaign. Some items would be nice.
IMHO i feel the game has proper difficulty but some maps are more challenging than the others.
I wish you would continue your work on Cataclysm. Title it Might of the Horde maybe? :3

Glad you liked both of my campaigns. I see you gave me 4/5, what didn't you like? Anything I could improve?

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Glad you liked both of my campaigns. I see you gave me 4/5, what didn't you like? Anything I could improve?

Lol. And that guy dares to say that I am disrespectful to other people's work. How could someone possibly find a flaw in tomoraider's great campaigns? I would give 6/5.

 

[deepstrasz]

This was real Blizz-like fun!
I'll just spout some things that you (the creator) might modify or something:

-how can the difficulty be chosen?
-even the normal units should have their spells like QWERTY (actually q and e are a bad idea because of ALT+Q/ALT+E accidents) to avoid confusion and frustration
-some dialogues really need their text time slowed down

Chap. 1:
-loding text: "the lady sylvans; threatening the exterminate the" (might want to change that)
-funny thing: "My life for Ner'zhul (from Sylvanas' workers)
-fact: Sylvanas left TFT with level 10. Where's her Charm ability?
-Varimathras is red, the enemy is red and during transmissions he is... blue!
-seriously, there needs to be a stopping of the moving of the units during/after cinematic events
-blight must now be created with Sacrificial Skulls in order to regenerate units (may be only a gameplay thing though...)
-sometimes music plays on the sound channel instead to be heard on the distinct music channel during cinematic sequences

Worgen chapters:
-the Worgen Knight has the glow of a hero
-the first mission can be finished without the Gargoyles, just by using the Meat Wagons to destroy the Griffin base

-the captured undead woman said she knew her way through the mountains. How did she get caught? Do undead have friends???
-the Apothecary's death animation does not end with a decay. The body remains there
-Alterac does not have Darkspear tribe Trolls

Phaelynne's chapter:
-destroyed all orcs before saving her. During the end cinematic i gots me: Main Quest: End of Reign when they were all dead and when the quest was already finished

Orgrimmar chapter:
-during cinematic events Garrosh has the blue buy arrow on his head
-the purple undead enemy attacked from the west and left after destroying buildings that were located a little distance from the main base
-the Fountain of Health's position is bad (in the left wing) because later on, it's taken by the enemy as an advantage
-peons build Towers/Burrows on the ramps and block the access. They also repair Demolishers in between also blocking the paths. For instace if you destroy a Burrow that blocks a path they rebuild it in the same place...

Sixth chap.:
-there's a bug with the poison buff that does not disappear from the player's units and it does not deal them damage either
-terrain could be improved for it's too flat in most parts. There's also a place towards the down left Demonic Gate where the terrain is a bit leveled up and units can't get past that. It's not that high so to give the impression of an impassable path
-if enemy bases are left functional when going to confront Varimathras they do not become neutral
-in the extreme south, there are some chunks of rocks that after being destroyed the player finds a place that cannot be accessed because of pathing blockers; makes it look odd
-Sylvanas is not very sure of what she thinks: "her" sanctuary is more important than the life of her companions?

Chapter 7:
-waht's up with the workers building by themselves after the green settlement is destroyed? I mean they're constructing one building and go on for another like they've got an AI algorithm for that
-the one way sacrificial pit teleporter is not funny
-allow the building of shipyards. The player has one that is invulnerable (!?). It takes too much time to train ships this way (at least it's good they don't take food)
-while being behind the gate north, the vision of Varimatrhas was waiting a lil' bit, south of the entrance, for a long time. Then it did nothing when Phaelynne or other troops got near. This happened after the message with "delude yourself" was transmitted and then after the Death Knight and Sylvanas spoke to each other
-in the end cinematic the first Val'kyr in the transmission has the portrait of a spider

-I don't think the Dark Arrow and Cold Arrow work with the orb effects of the lockets (or do they?)
-Pyroblast only stuns 10th level Dragons. It does not deal damage to them

Chapter eight (I):
-the health bar of the Arcane Golem is shown too high above its head
-why would Arthas leave his sword unprotected? why would he come with it in hand if it was not with him?
-seriously stop moving units (my troops were south of the gate) to the location of the cinematic camera after it ends (the one when Arthas came); not to mention that not all of them were teleported and the door got locked
-Arthas does not follow the heroes, he stands in the room where he fought Jaina

Chapter 8 (II):
-why would the Nerubians fight amongst the undead?
-can't believe how cartoony, seeing that Thrall and Garrosh were not killed but just kept in the cellar, made it feel
-the rock pass being liberated after Garrosh's rescue is odd!? (it's out of context!) Why not put Anub'arak destroy it after running from the spike room?
-after Anub'arak dies, the side quest does not complete (quest log)

Mission nein:
-at least make the invulnerable Val'kyrs fly so the player can build if they are not even going to help battling the enemy
-after defeating Kel'thuzad's base I've visited the place southeast where some invulnerable green undead protected an empty Magic Pen. They did not attack. Later the player found out that it was intended for Vereesa's capture...
-how did they bring Vereesa from north over the mountains? I don't remember seeing any Sky Barges
-the human and orc bases in the north were razed but somehow the Alliance and the Horde were still fighting the yellow undead?

Chapter 10:
-units (Forsaken units) take damage because it's freezing!? They're undead too. There needs to be a better explanation than that
-Val'kyrs do not regenerate without Blight
-the Alliance mines gold from the farthest Gold Mine in their base from the beginning of the mission
-Arthas destroyed the Blood Elf base and then Sylvanas said they were going into the citadel because they had come that far...
-there's a video glitch in the south wall of the Val'kyr heroine's fortress. The middle of the wall flickers like it's a chameleon moving there

Chap.eleven:
-I sent a Skeleton from the east corridor to the west and then the Phaelynne cinematic event started and teleported all my heroes from east there and all my troops from south there too. This type of trigger has to be excluded...
-by the way how did the demons get in the citadel without confronting Arthas' troops and boss guards?
-why is there no freeze effect in this level affecting the units? (what's the explanation?)
-doors being unlocked shouldn't be shown during battle
-I understand a demon possesing a body but not dying? This is not Diablo...
-Kel'thuzad seems very confident after saying he was weak in the previous level
-the Lich King's crown item has a "|" under the text

This deserves a maximum, mostly taking into consideration the work it was put into it.

 

[tomoraider]

Glad you liked the campaign! The difficulty can't be changed, I meant to say it was somewhere between normal and hard.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback, if I update the campaign in the future, I'll be sure to consider everything you wrote.

 

[MadmanGoneMad]

The Ogrimmar chapter is beatable by luck, unless you cheat. Seriously, fix your difficulty. It felt like a 1v4 by how many times the enemy keep sending their endless late-game units, while you don't even have access to your own units which just made this harder. No other way to get gold as well. Spending 30 minutes on a mission only to get an ultimatum. This is just broken! This is the third time that chapter reminded my why I never bothered to finish this 2.0 version of the campaign.

 

[hauw]

Glad you liked both of my campaigns. I see you gave me 4/5, what didn't you like? Anything I could improve?

What??!?! I gave you 4/5??
I'm very sorry since i pressed the wrong button! O:
It's perfect the way it is

Lol. And that guy dares to say that I am disrespectful to other people's work. How could someone possibly find a flaw in tomoraider's great campaigns? I would give 6/5.

Disrespectful? So tell me what are these posts??

ShadowShaman.mn, see this post? This is negative, non-constructive, useless and leaves a bad taste in the mouth of everyone reading it. Do you like to make everyone feel bad? Do you thrive on this?

Can you make a better copy of Curse of River's End? No. You also copied DotA.
If i were an adult and had some random stranger baby sit me every time i post something i would felt ashamed. But i would fix my behavior long before that happens.

The admins are right when not giving the campaign a director cut. The way too long loading screen lowers the general quality.

Low loading screen = 1/5? So if 4/5 is disrespectful what is 1/5?

Too complicated for my taste, but I will refrain from rating as it would only cause havoc on this forum and hatred of the drove.

Too complicated for you to build eh?

Maybe instead of blabbering this is not good, this is bad, this does not deserve a director's cut why won't you made something AMAZING so that all of us could see and rate your achievements?

And stop with the lies already. You got your last warning from orcnet when you posted something on Tomoraider's thread.

As i've stated before :

1. You're only arguing to win.
2. You speak only to express your horribly exaggerated sense of self importance.
3. Otherwise to display the obviously very low respect for others, to the point of not realizing the achievements of yours compared to those you insulted.

If there is an exact carbon copy of yourself, the two of you would only belittle each other and express self-importance until the end of time.

You think i did this because i want to?
This will be my last post to you.
That i'm actually doing hive workshop a favor. I don't want this community to be filled with toxic behavior so i am disrespectful towards you, making you feel unwelcome here, so that you will leave this place and never return.

 

[Daffa]

- Forsaken AI in Chapter Six builds 3 Town Halls. There is no help to it.
- It is possible that when you click on Quel'Delar, its spells will not show up. Try
dropping it and picking it up again or placing in different inventory spots.
- After the Uther cinematic in Chapter Eight, Part One, it is possible that Vereesa's spells
aren't clickable. Reselect her to fix this.
- When choosing heroes in Chapter Ten, you can't see the mouse when
choosing the first one, but the dialog you hover over will be highlighted.

- Is AI based on campaign or Melee AI Editor in World Editor?
- N/A
- I recommend deselect Veressa and reselect her through triggers should fix this 100%
- N/A

Hope these helps fixed the known issues.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

What??!?! I gave you 4/5??
I'm very sorry since i pressed the wrong button! O:
It's perfect the way it is



Disrespectful? So tell me what are these posts??



Maybe instead of blabbering this is not good, this is bad, this does not deserve a director's cut why won't you made something AMAZING so that all of us could see and rate your achievements?

And stop with the lies already. You got your last warning from orcnet when you posted something on Tomoraider's thread.

As i've stated before :

1. You're only arguing to win.
2. You speak only to express your horribly exaggerated sense of self importance.
3. Otherwise to display the obviously very low respect for others, to the point of not realizing the achievements of yours compared to those you insulted.

If there is an exact carbon copy of yourself, the two of you would only belittle each other and express self-importance until the end of time.

You think i did this because i want to?
This will be my last post to you.
That i'm actually doing hive workshop a favor. I don't want this community to be filled with toxic behavior so i am disrespectful towards you, making you feel unwelcome here, so that you will leave this place and never return.

Lol, thank you for putting so much thought into my critics. Now stop spamming this thread, show some respect to Tomoraider.

 

[Vel (Tien-Yun) Wu]

Hello!
I have just tried out this campaign and I have to say it is highly potential.
The plot flows between chapters and you display more-than-sufficient knowledge about the Warcraft universe I can definitely see this as part of the canon story, and I think yours COULD become a better interpretation than the official lore writers.

Being currently at Chapter 4 where the Forsaken and Worgen ally and ready themselves to march on the Scarlet Crusade, here are some of my favorites

(1) You are thinking up new stories that at the same time are original and resonant with the official lore
(2) Phaelynne's voice. I'm sorry if I sound weird, but gawd damm why hasn't anyone thought about this before!? Exactly!
(3) The Interlude of Arthas deciding to march down south delivers the message sufficiently. You were trying to re-create the WotLK cinematic and I can respect that and overlook the technological barrier


With that said, I hereby give you a 4/5 as in my very honest (with all respect due) opinion I think there is this one thing preventing the campaign from being perfect: the VERY inconsistent dialogue.

In short, I think you are making the characters say the right things but they are not saying them appropriately. Specifically, blunt grammar and lack of advanced vocabularies make most dialogues too modern, in a way that just puts me off from time to time.
Varimathras specifically has too many dialogues that sound casual.
Or may I just be so rude...most characters 'sound' the same because their dialogues all read like those that would be spoken by 21st Century teenagers----and supposedly all the characters involved in this story are adults in a medieval time where people speak English with much scrutiny and metaphors. People in the Warcraft universe speak quite posh English and your campaign does not deliver that.
This is a campaign wrote by a player, not a group of professional writers, so it would be insane to expect Dragon Age or Game of Thrones level of writing, but I would like to see characters uttering conversations with personalities.

I hereby would like to offer this: me, being your 2nd writer. I want to rephrase ALL the dialogues for you. Nothing will change about the story you are delivering. The plot stays the same but I will make it so that dialogues delivered by each person differentiate----they would be basically saying the same things, albeit consistently. The same goes for Rise of the Blood Elves, your Blood Elf campaign. In my opinion, that one needs rephrasing way more.
I look forward to your response on this and thank you for making this ambitious project.

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks, glad you liked it. I do agree about dialogues. They are that way simply because english is not my first language and I'm just not very good at writing them. I did have help with some dialogues, but that's mostly in the later maps of the campaign.

And that's quite an offer. Would you like first sending me just the rephrased dialogues for just one map? I'll see then how much I like it and if you should do more.

EDIT:

The Ogrimmar chapter is beatable by luck, unless you cheat. Seriously, fix your difficulty. It felt like a 1v4 by how many times the enemy keep sending their endless late-game units, while you don't even have access to your own units which just made this harder. No other way to get gold as well. Spending 30 minutes on a mission only to get an ultimatum. This is just broken! This is the third time that chapter reminded my why I never bothered to finish this 2.0 version of the campaign.

Sorry, forgot to respond! I agree with you, that chapter is too hard. I didn't have much time before, but I will look into it sometime in the future and adjust the difficulty.

 

[Vel (Tien-Yun) Wu]

Hey Tomo!
Here you go.

It would be great if I can have the original text files for next chapters as I am sure I can work much faster that way

Good or bad, I look forward to your opinions
And don't be afraid to throw compliments or harsh critics either. I am a very resilient writer and critics help me get better.
Most importantly your project is one of a kind. It is already successful in its own way and I feel you can take it even higher.

 

[Sclammerz]

Woah, just finished reading the dialogues and I must say it was impressive and well written. Just a tip, you could just open the campaign on the world editor and copy the original dialogues rather playing the map one by one and catch up all those dialogues is a bit frustrating, don't you think?

 

[Vel (Tien-Yun) Wu]

@Sclammerz and Tomoraider

Thank you!! Now I am up for more work and epicness

For players who are interested more chapters are being re-adjusted at this moment. Follow them here *MAY CONTAIN SPOILER*

 

[Vel (Tien-Yun) Wu]

Delivering the updated scripts for Ch1~3 and Interlude 1 for you, Mr./Ms. Tomo
More coming soon.

Being at chapter 6 now I can say this whole campaign has the very grand idea to re-create what World of Warcraft has done and in a format that is presentable in RTS manner.

I mean, oh my. You gotta go to Brill in chapter 6 and see for yourself

 

[Blazethesage]

One comment I do want to make - it may be a good idea to disable the AI Crypt Fiends' Burrow ability at times. Some situations, like in Chapter 7 in the first base you attack - if you're not fast enough to kill the Crypt Fiends before they burrow, and don't take the time to stop and murder them, they actually interfere with your Workers' automatic "build a base" order queue set by, I assume, triggers. They then proceed to pop back up every time they recover, and potentially burrow back down at low health if you let them.

Another time when it should be disabled is indoor, no-base missions such as Chapter 8 Part 2, with Varian. Players like me (aka; completionists) have a strong hatred of leaving any enemies behind without killing them (unless it's an escape scenario, like that escape from the Lich King in part 1). However, Varian is physically incapable of killing the Crypt Fiends here, as they simply burrow before he can finish them off.

 

[tomoraider]

Oh, I know about the issue with Burrow, I thought I disabled it in all the maps except the ones without AIs. I'll have to re-check all the maps.

 

[Scorp97]

Why can't y see the interlude of journey to the sunwell? my screen goes black why?

 

[tomoraider]

Why can't y see the interlude of journey to the sunwell? my screen goes black why?

You need to download the latest patch for Warcraft 3.

 

[EredarArbeiterYU]

5/5 Great campaign, again I'd wish it was easier, and less frustratingly difficult at times. I used invincibility cheat around half of the time, since I really couldn't bother restarting so much (and the story is so awesome compared to gameplay ).
Obviously the dreadlord's (Varimatharis) mind-control abilities are redicilusly OP (but they fit in since Deatharoc had that power too even tough not as much OP) xD you just can't kill the mfckers XD. Varimathras > Sargeras
But if he wasn't as op as he is, then the surprising ending would not be possible, yeah I liked the ending.

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks, glad you liked the campaign.

 

[MURDER KING]

And a new update has appeared.
I don't wishes to say something wrong against your thread because i really liked the frog in chapter 10 it whose very effective and to get the titan key should bee easy.
Still i will try it.

 

[knight26]

@Sclammerz and Tomoraider

Thank you!! Now I am up for more work and epicness

For players who are interested more chapters are being re-adjusted at this moment. Follow them here *MAY CONTAIN SPOILER*

As someone who enjoys decent reading, I fathom you know how great your contribution appears. Thanks! *_*

 

[Vel (Tien-Yun) Wu]

As someone who enjoys decent reading, I fathom you know how great your contribution appears. Thanks! *_*

Haha, thank you.

Maybe I'll see you soon in Forsaken's Tides of War, too

 

[kakuzu]

I see that you are still updating this master piece . Any chance for a sequel ?

 

[king arthas123]

Yeah new updates, I'll test it later.

 

[knight26]

I see that you are still updating this master piece . Any chance for a sequel ?

Yeah cmon Tomo, you the real MVP :3
If you deliver I'll personally donate 5-10$ for you ^_^

 

[tomoraider]

Most likely not. But hey, who knows what could happen in the future?

 

[kakuzu]

Most likely not. But hey, who knows what could happen in the future?

So you are not completly retired in warcraft modding , right ?

 

[r.ace613]

I love your campaigns! Will you make some campaigns about Orcs?

 

[tomoraider]

I love your campaigns! Will you make some campaigns about Orcs?

Thanks, but no, I won't be making an orc campaign.