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[Campaign] Chasing the Dawn

Discussion in 'Map Development' started by Elf_Lord, Aug 3, 2015.

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What sort of ending should Part II have?

  1. Canon - end the campaign at Part II, maybe a bonus mission to wrap up

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  2. Canon - have a Part III from a different character's perspective

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  3. Non-Canon - continue with an Abbendis-centric Part III

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  1. Elf_Lord

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    I've decided to post this update here instead of on the download thread because I suppose it's more of a development note than a patch note. The campaign is still undergoing thorough independent testing, after which I will release a patch that will hopefully address any remaining issues in the game. Releasing endless hotfixes whenever a bug is reported is hopelessly inefficient because the version of the game I am working in contains multiple maps and other materials I must remove each time before release which takes as much time as the actual hotfixes.

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    "Behold, the Red Sun! The culmination of the Light's power! This day, Lordaeron shall be purged of your filth, and this land will be pure once more."

    Features: New Bonus Mission - The Red Queen
    Serve as the Banshee Queen's elite Dark Ranger Corps and face down the greatest champions of the Scarlet Crusade and High Inquisitor Sally Whitemane herself. The fate of Tirisfal Glades hangs in the balance as the two factions battle for control of Lordaeron's holy sites and the fury of the Holy Light itself - the Red Sun.
     
  2. Nowow

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    Just chiming in to say that the preparations of ai scripts for the bonus mission are going in full swing. Also, I would greatly appreciate any information about ai bugs and glitches from the second mission, "Taking Our Due".
     
  3. WarcraftLiterature

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    The hard work can be seen like there is no tomorrow. Everything looks amazing! And the idea for the story, again amazing. But with everything looking to be so good, there is one thing that gets me. The difficutly! Even on normal it seems impobssible. The first mission is challenging and quite fun, but the second mission? I had to restart it five or six times because either the "buffed up" Forsaken came and destroyed my base or because there was a huge lack of gold, because I needed to make and army so the Forsaken wouldn't kill me but that toke to long and then got me in the position where I need 8k gold and there where no more gold mines left. The first mission was fun, but the second one...now that just made me delete all the recordings. Will try again another time, I have to soothe my troubled mind.
     
  4. AwesomeGuy

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    The campaign ends at chaptar 5? When you see the last moment of tyrs hand (in first person mode). Dont we get to play as forsaken or fight in northrend? or it is just not finished yet.
     
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    There's a bug in chapter three where if you destroy the Black Citadel before one of the Necropolis it bugs out and doesn't end the mission. Also the difficulty comparison between chapter 2 and 3 is a little stark.

    Three needs to just be a tad tougher because you can steamroll it too easily and it takes two minutes.

    Other than that though, an amazing campaign loving it so far :)
     
  6. joaquim98

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    Damn, hands down to you elf_lord, this is by far the highest quality campaign i've seen on the workshop, I've seen a couple videos of the first chapters, but I stopped because I plan on playing it once you realease the full campaign.
     
  7. Stygmath

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    Hi every one ! I'm kind new in the forum but I was watching for some custom game for a long time ago. I just wanted to say that your project is totally phenomenal, I was replaying the full Blizzard Campaign since January and I'm really really happy that I found your project, it's totally incredible I enjoyed playing it from the beginning and at the end I'm desappointed that it's already over for now I want more of it and I should not be the only one but who knows? So after all this little message I hope you will glad that there is players in the dark that just love your stuff and are hoping you keep going on it and you will finish it. We are watching you, we are supporting you, and if we can do more like a post just to say "Hi, this project is amazing, thank you for doing it hope you will finish it" well we will like I am.

    Also I finished the part 1 in Normal and I'm trying the Heroic one right now (I'm in the chapter 3 when you will read this message, if you do) and if it can help you I will post here all sort of bug or information that can help you to fix, improve, etc... And I will make it in detail if it can help you or any players who have some trouble (beware to you if you haven't tested this campaign yet, the future notes can contain spoils but if you are looking for a bit of help, I hope you will find it here) :

    CHAPTER 1 :
    The only thing I can tell you is when you are near the church, you are supposed to be attack by the Forsaken with a Dark Ranger. First of all if you want exploring with your army by going in the North you may miss the Forsaken that are suppose to attack you, they will keep going to the church BUT I saw 2 things that can happen :
    - First, the army keep to go and will face the Scarlett Crusade army that was supposing help you when you are attacked by the Forsaken, so they Fight until only stand the Dark Ranger (Regen OP, don't know if it's a bug or you made that on purpose but that is not a problem at all for the player), then your main quest is finished and the cinematic begins. Congratulation you finished the first chapter without the trouble that you should have :)
    - Second, the army will stop in some point and will go back in their camp in the forest, only the Dark Ranger will stop in the road a bit before the forest, but hey she's unkillable. If this happen you need to go fight the army in their bastion in the forest to complete the Main Quest, but it's like impossible because of the tower and the army itself. If you are enough tricky you can taunt the army and lead it away from the tower but it's really difficult and I couldn't kill the entire army in the end, I think I killed half of them, not sure.
    A second problem appear when you have finished the part 1 and want to restart, Abbendis is not here.
    Also I tried a couple of time the Chapter 1 by doing a new game again and again in the menu, I noticed that if you put your first skill point when you are in the church and restart again, you keep them all for the Chapter 2, with others words I choose to put my first skill point in the Stun Judgment that allow Abbendis to stun her target for 2second with Judgment. Then I decide to launch the Chapter 2 and when it begin I quit the game, launch a new game and finish the chapter 1, when you look my skills in the church I already get the Stun Judgement avaible and then I can choose the Devotion Aura or the Heal with lesser mana cost but cooldown. All the point are avaible for the chapter 2 by this operation, that mean you can get for exemple the Exorcism Talent in the Chapter 2.
    Oh and I missed something, if you attack a little group of Undead with only Abbendis, they will not move to attack you, instead they will wait you to come to them.

    CHAPTER 2 :
    Like I said for the Chapter 1, there is not so much problem here, just that when you get the optional quest that demand you to kill for good the Dark Ranger, this pretty lady will come back only 1 time and then stay at the cimetary in her Bastion, the problem is that to destroy this camp you will probably need too much gold to finish the main quest. So the trick that I found is to kill the Dark Ranger and before her soul appear I put a marksman in front to grab her with their spell, then I can easly kill her.
    A second point is that in some point the Forsaken will stop attacking your camp, I think it's because they don't have enough gold/wood to keep doing an army. Sometimes they will try to protect their allies if you go in an Outpost of the Dark Green Forsaken, for me it's cool that they don't let their allies alone because they are a bit weak.

    CHAPTER 3 :
    I already saw some feedback for this chapter, but I will put them here anyway :
    - Main Quest : If you destroy the main Scourge bastion before you destroyed the 2 Necropolis, the main quest will not be finished even if you destroy the 2 or the last Necropolis stand, so you need to restart the chapter.
    - Optional Quest : If you don't let any of your allies be attacked by the Scourge, the optional quest will not show up and will not be completed at all even if you destroy all the Scourge on the map, so you need to let one of your allies be attacked to get the dialogs and the quest, then you will be able to complete it by killing the Scourge.
    - Other things : Sometimes when you attack the Scourge, their all forces will show up and try to pull out your stomac off your chest, for me they follow me in my camp.
    Sometimes aswell when you kill some of their troops that stands in some zone, the AI will put them back at their right place, don't know why, but I need to go back to make another army I will see all the time this little necromancer who should be near his cimetary, even if I already destroyed it.
    I'm not sure there is anything else in this chapter.

    CHAPTER 4 :
    - The Scourge will not attack you all the time, sometimes you will have like 2 minutes to remake some units and sometimes you will have nothing to do because their attack are too weak, so you are waiting them again and again.
    - For the main quest, I will not complain about the timer, it's totally normal and interresting to wait a bit more, because if you played WoW and did the DK start zone, YOU are the "messenger", and when you go deliver your message to Abbendis, she told you that you are late. So I think you should keep that, but may be put some more information in the dialogs, like a message that tell you to wait a bit longer, but it's just my opinion.
    - The Priest (forgot his name) : So, his blessing are not working correctly, the first 2 cast will not give you the buff even if you have the glowy bubble in your troops, and at the third one you do get the blessing but it's the first one that you tried to do, or the second one, I don't really remember which one you get. Then his heal that should give 200HP and 50MP to the unit will give him the Frost shield instead.

    CHAPTER 5 :
    I guess this chapter have the most problem of the part 1. Indeed, when the chapter begin the Scourge will already attack you, if you keep going to the North you will have the cinematic that show the tower getting down and when it's finish you are already attacked by the Scourge that was standing next to you, sometimes Abbendis was completly surrounded by the enemy so they killed her already. In only 1 try, I saw the DK on the dragon going away when I was near the fountain, but I saw this only 1 single time so I don't know if it's normal, but I guess it's supposing to be like that (may be?).
    If you succeed to join the Priest, there is only one way you need to take to have all the dialogs and then you will be able to escape. So when you pass the tree instead of keep going South you need to go by the box wall to the Est and then follow the road that go in the South, to then try to join the ships. for this chapter I did use cheats (sorryyyyyy) to explore a bit because I was completly stuck. So after you pass the box wall a dialog appear to say to run back then you see some Crusader coming to fight the Scourge in the North, sometimes they win, sometimes they loose (too bad), you can see aswell 2 Fly-Raider coming to you but ignoring you for instead fight whatever they can see in the sky and... die, horribly. After that, I saw Abbendis speaking to I-don't-know-who to say to join us, and someone respond to her but no one joined my forces. I guess it's all the dialogs that you can see, if I don't mention the part where Darion just scream to his troops.
    When you succeed to get the Priest, you can see some main character of the Scourge in your run (I'm not sure you are supposed to kill them at all, but I did to see why I couldn't finish the chapter) like Thassarian and his skeleton, Koltira (behing the tower which fallen, but he's invulnerable and he will give you some Death bolt gift you are too close, that hurt a lot), Keleseth (I guess it's him, don't remember) who is near the Town hall, Gothik who hurt really really hard by the way, I guess you made like a strat' for him but I didn't figure it out for now (May be the Acolyt..?), Noth is not here but when you pass the box wall and keep going Est, you can here him laughing when you are near the "pool". There is aswell a Val'kyr next to your begin position but it's impossible to join her with your Hero, too bad because she drop a ring... Well, all this to say that in their side it seems that already is fine for the dialogs, songs, etc... except that after you get the Priest, some of the Scourge will keep going to his begin position without attacking you like the others.
    The Priest has by the way always the same problem as before in the chapter 4 for his spells.

    Well I guess it's all the stuff that I found, I hope it will help you, there is some minor bug aswell like for getting a unit on a horse, you need to 1 but 2 Mana in the building, if I can use only one point my unit will just move a bit and repop without his pony, but those are not so important for now I guess.

    If I can I will try to find any other problem that are not in the feedback. I really hope this will help you and aswell that you will finish it (but take your time huh). Thank you for doing this and for creating something that is just completly incredible and I can't stand in my chair to play the second part. (If you need anything, just ask !)
     
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  8. Nowow

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    About your first point, does the ranger not attack at all, or does she arrive to defend the other forsaken towns?

    About your second point, after how much game time does the blue player stop sending units?
     
  9. TheLordOfChaos201

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    for your towers and adding arches into them

    just give the tower a multi shot ability that increases the number of arrows fired in one shot. that way it will feel like there are more units in the tower.
     
  10. Stygmath

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    It seems that if she stop coming she will not move at all except to defend her own camp. I don't know if somes players found anything else about it.

    Mmmh I didn't do the chapter again, but I would say after 10 attacks? May be something like that. The only thing I can tell you is that they send more and more unit in the beginning to each attack, but before they stop coming their attack are weak again (like they is no more catapult or banshee).
     
  11. soooeree

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    Please help I can't start from the beginning. My hero the second I get to the first Chapter in any place where a bunch of crusaders and undead and there's nothing I can do tried to reinstall the campaign but nothing happened help
     
  12. TheLordOfChaos201

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    You need to go into the warcraft campaign area and look for a saved file of the campaign, which is automatically created, delete it and you should be able to start a fresh campaign
     
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    If you do not mind can you show a picture please
     
  14. Elf_Lord

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    Hey, all! Sorry for the long delay for responses; I've been very busy the past month or so, but work on this project continues as always! If everything proceeds apace, Patch 1.02, featuring fixes for many of the reported issues noted in-game as well as a new bonus mission featuring the Forsaken, will be released by the end of the month.

    As for @AwesomeGuy and his question, this campaign is going to be released in three parts, the first taking place in Lordaeron, the second in the Dragonblight, and the third in Icecrown. Part II will feature seven storyline missions and one bonus mission and is already in development. It is far too early for me to approximate a release date, but I will release some previews of the new features and characters in Part II after the release of 1.02.
     
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    Craslet crusade campaign? I support this project!

    From the looks of it you put lots of work into the tech-tree. Good Job!
     
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    New month is here, mate! Is that update of yours ready to sate our hunger? :grin:
     
  17. Nowow

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    @MogulKahn I can't speak for the big man himself, but there are still some AI issues on my end. Hopefully there will be some progress till next week.
     
  18. MogulKahn

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    I downloaded it. Played first map and it bugged out. So I stopped, and now I am waiting for that promised update, to fix those bugs!
     
  19. Elf_Lord

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    AT LONG LAST LANDGREN'S PENANCE BUG IS NO MORE.

    This was the only remaining bug I needed to repair before release. Now I just need to implement a few more features and do a (more thorough) test run and make sure it all works.

    @MogulKahn Can you describe exactly what happened? I've gotten reports of the first map bugging out if you restart the campaign before, but never anything definitive enough for me to repair.
     
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    Well, when I killed those Forsaken archers at the end, I went to explore a map a bit more before finishing it. But, then, that Dark Ranger with Forsaken troops went on me, and Whitemane and her protector (forgot his name) said something. I ran away (up, I encountered some skeletons and there was also a burned building), killed some creeps, went back to Scarlet Monastery, stepped on a circle and then, nothing. I checked on internet playthrough of that map, and saw that they were supposed to battle each other, but that never happened. All crusaders stood in front of Monsatery, while Dark Ranger went back to her base.