Blizzard fuses with Activision

[bbfreak]

This is good, except Activision hasn't really made any good games to date...

Someone correct me here.

OMG Call of Duty!!!

 

[Just_Spectating]

o right, valve.. cs is fun too.

 

[brad.dude03]

Cs = Valve, as well as Team Fortress, Half Life, Garry's Mod, etc. It's just full of win.

And yeah, gotta tack Bungie up there. Halo PC is definetly ftw Well it was anyway, but now it's just too old, and sadly Halo 2 Vista just doesn't live up to it

 

[Modo]

I don't like First Person Shooters that much. I usually suck at them. I like Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior, but I play Warhammer 40k so I am primed into liking it not to mention I play the racestarring in the game (Tau ftw)

Activision has quite a few good games, not that i can name any off the top of my head. I just hope that when Blizzard fuses with Activision they don't make bastardised versions of their own games, like Square Enix did. Square Soft had awesome games but almost every Square Enix game I have played is a pile of BS that isn't worth the disk it is written on.

Off-topic: 200th Post

 

[Just_Spectating]

who needs warcraft 4 if they are making sc2!!!!!

 

[Denu]

I don't think blizz will change that much. Look at what they have done by themselves. If I were Vivendi I would see no reason whatsoever to change any of that. I wouldn't even want to touch it in fear that I might screw something up. But I think this opens Blizzard up. To what I don't know. Could be good, could be bad, could be nothing at all. Any change wouldn't likely be as a direct result of this. But it does throw in another variable that has yet to be defined.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

I am not saying any changes will be made to Blizzard, I am saying changes will be made to Activision, Will, which will ruin a perfectly fine company like Vivendi has slowly been corrupting Blizzard.

 

[Sacrimo]

I hope they will make Warcraft 4 for PC

Sadly enough, when WotLK comes out, that will be the Warcraft4 since people are fighting Arthas. WoW is Wc4 pretty much.

Now what activist and blizzard should agree apon is to destroy Dota forever...that would make Wc3 better.

 

[RED BARON]

I am not saying any changes will be made to Blizzard, I am saying changes will be made to Activision, Will, which will ruin a perfectly fine company like Vivendi has slowly been corrupting Blizzard.

Ya.. you could fear that.... especialy because they work quite differnt from each other, so trying to combine things could prove both bad or good

 

[Eleandor]

Sadly enough, when WotLK comes out, that will be the Warcraft4 since people are fighting Arthas.

erm... official link on that one? All I heard is that Arthas will be some sort of quest NPC...

 

[brad.dude03]

Quest NPC? Are you retarded? Arthas is probably the biggest, baddest, most famous boss they could ever make, and it sure as hell isn't gonna be some stupid quest NPC. He's the fucking Lich KIng for chrissakes. Wrath of the Lich King. You'te fighting AGAINST the Lich King.

 

[Eleandor]

Seeing as you don't have any evidence, you're the retarded one so far...

 

[brad.dude03]

you don't need evidence, it's called common sense.

 

[Eleandor]

So it's common sense that God exists? Seriously: I asked for evidence, and you jump in, calling me a retard. Where is your common sense now? Oh, and how does the title imply that you're fighting him? If it would have been something like "Death of the Lich King", ok, but ... wrath of the lich king means you're killing him? Sorry, I seem to miss the connection.

 

[Kimbo]

Seeing as you don't have any evidence, you're the retarded one so far...

Uh...DUHHHH.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Lich_King#In_World_of_Warcraft

The Lich King is the final boss of the upcoming expansion, Wrath of the Lich King. He will likely be found at his fortress of Icecrown Citadel. According to the FAQ:
Players will be skirmishing with the minions of Arthas from the moment they set foot on Northrend. He will be a constant presence as players progress through the expansion content -- which will culminate in a showdown with the dread Lich King himself.

And Wrath, is his REVENGE, and its ON THE PLAYERS/the whole world of warcraft, obviously if he was vengeful he wasn't going to ask you to kick your own ass, really, THAT IS COMMON SENSE.

 

[Pyritie]

Silly WoW killing off all the heroes. Yay for storyline slaughter.

 

[Kimbo]

Silly WoW killing off all the heroes. Yay for storyline slaughter.

It's a game, you arnt rewriting their lore or books. They can change it however they like, as for illidan, the players are noted as side heroes who helped Meiv or however her name is spelt.

 

[Eleandor]

And Wrath, is his REVENGE, and its ON THE PLAYERS/the whole world of warcraft, obviously if he was vengeful he wasn't going to ask you to kick your own ass, really, THAT IS COMMON SENSE.

It's not really common sense, it's just more something like "I don't have any fantasy... what else could we do in WoW... oh, let's kill Arthas..."

 

[Kimbo]

dude. they can do whatever they want, its fantasty anyway, its not friggin george bush or shit. and things die evenually. its a game, good over bad, bad loses . blah blah. you get it

 

[Eleandor]

Where did I say they can't do whatever they want? I just said that they can't think of anything original, it appears.

(oh and what (the hell) did you smoke that you mention George Bush in this conversation??)

 

[Kimbo]

okay
right sorry
but i can say they do wahtever they want cuz they can and yeah. and i didnt smoke yeah

 

[TKF]

Sry for interupting your conversation.

who needs warcraft 4 if they are making sc2!!!!!

Well Warcraft IV does probably have heroes in it, as far as I know Starcraft II is pure strategy game with no heroes (and probably no abilities which you can level I guess, and similar RPG features like in WC3).

I don't know if there will be any rpg system (like hero leveling heroes in starcraft, not as I have seen so far)


I believe people will still be stuck to warcraft III due to this difference in lacking RPG feature. Original Starcraft is pure strategy. There isn't even a dice there. Pure skills. Like chess. Warcraft III has a piece of luck in it... (I was thinking of damage dices in this example) The only bad luck I can think of in starcraft is having many rotting against you. That's tactical bad luck for you...

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Now back to topic

I think Blizzard merging with Activision wouldn't be so bad. Time will tell. I hope they will not only develop WoW like games.


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[Kaitech[SanD]]

I'd like it if you could choose who you side with, that'd be fun.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

Pray to God they'll decide on WC IV

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Warcraft 4 is an impossibility, they are carrying where they left you in BC pretty much, seeing as Illidan, Kael and Nashj fled back to the Outlands as Arthas stayed in his frozen chamber.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

Who's to say that they can't base Warcraft IV off of WoW lore?

 

[Pyritie]

WoW HAS no lore. Where have you been?

 

[Preskooldude]

Q: Will the release schedules for any Blizzard games be impacted?
A: No

Damn, and just when I thought they'd actually finish a game ON ITS SCHEDULED DATE...

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

WoW HAS no lore. Where have you been?

This isn't true, it is jam packed with lore as far as I hear. I've never wasted my time on the game though so I don't know firsthand. Either way I'm sure those Blizzard guys can think up something. And if not, think up an insane loophole to all sorts of new stuff

 

[Pyritie]

This isn't true, it is jam packed with lore as far as I hear.

They took lore from wc3 and twisted it into a monstrosity to make it fit the context of an MMORPG.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Yes, including degrading Archimonde from the ultimate evil to a gone bad dranarie or how ever it is spelt.

 

[brad.dude03]

Dranarie? ROFL.

DSG your spelling always manages to make me laugh.

It's Draenei sir

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Daraenarierei, whatever.

 

[DungeonM]

This thread is full of so much information all one can do is simply.

/headpalm

 

[Pyritie]

I believe it's /facepalm.

 

[Serbianbeast]

I believe people will still be stuck to warcraft III due to this difference in lacking RPG feature.

wanna bet? if you ask me: integer counting number of units killed with an 100 lvl health and damage upgrade already reminds of rpg, so we'll handle this.

and besides that i really doubt that blizzard will not make rpg system, usable in editor, cause that way their games live longer, and i mean a lot longer. look at wc3 for example.

and one more thing: every1 plz do attach santa hat on your avatar's Head Ref ^^

 

[Mor)L(unE]

I Vivendi really is on a profit spree, there wont be an rpg system or any side system like a editor. it doesnt bring in more cash

 

[Pyritie]

Actually, it kinda does. If it didn't have an editor most of us wouldn't move to SC2 when it comes out.

 

[Eleandor]

I Vivendi really is on a profit spree, there wont be an rpg system or any side system like a editor. it doesnt bring in more cash

I think the biggest part of their campaign is actually made in the editor that's supplied together with the actual game. In other words: all blizzard does is make a very powerful editor, use it to make melee maps AND campaigns, and ship it TOGETHER with the game.
You could see it like this: "we made an editor, made maps and a campaign with it. Why would we waste people's time with making an unofficial editor if we could just ship ours with the game?".

Above that, it's been confirmed that the editor will have a hero system similar to the warcraft 3 one. This system is unlikely to be used in Melee maps or the campaign though.

 

[RED BARON]

Actually, it kinda does. If it didn't have an editor most of us wouldn't move to SC2 when it comes out.

Agree! Although I personally wont move anyway... of course I would play SC2, but I stick with wc3 anyway.

 

[Tyranid]

I Vivendi really is on a profit spree, there wont be an rpg system or any side system like a editor. it doesnt bring in more cash

Ummm. . . Map Editors do bring in more cash, since WC 3 and SC are also known for their really good user made maps. Now if Blizzard announced "LAWL NUBZ TEHRE WILL BE NO EDITUR IN SC 2!" they would lose alot of fans and also SC 2 wouldn't sell so well.

And and good games by Activision include:
Doom 3
Quake series
Guitar Heros (or actually I guess they didn't make the first, or the first and the second)
Call of Duty 4

See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision

Maybe this could also mean the revival of SC: Ghost!

 

[kharma]

My goodness, there's so many untruths in this thread that I'm wondering whether it should come with some sort of IQ-inhibiting warning label.

I'm feeling nice and I've got my tinfoil safety hat on to protect me from the freaky-rays this thread's emitting, so I'll try and clear some of the erroneous comments made in this thread:

1) Vivendi has owned Blizzard Entertainment since 1998. For those of you keeping score, that's the year Starcraft came out. So I guess if you want to say they're an evil company who've ruined Blizzard, you should probably throw Diablo II and Warcraft III in the pile there with WoW. Which makes me wonder why you're even here on this website in the first place? For anyone wanting to be pedantic, Starcraft: Ghost doesn't count since the project was being developed by third-parties (acquired by Blizzard eventually who then put it on its infamous 'indefinite hold') and it hasn't actually been released.

2) Blizzard is completely unaffected by this acquisition. The new name 'Activision Blizzard' is the new title for the overall group of game publishers that Vivendi owns. This group was previously just called 'Vivendi Games'. It seems a logical step to rename the group to 'Activision Blizzard' given that they're the two largest, most successful and most well-known developers in the group. It doesn't mean a merging of the actual companies themselves.

3) Blizzard has a console division already. Strangely enough, it's called Blizzard Console and was created from the third-party developer that was originally working on Starcraft: Ghost before Blizzard acquired them. Who knows what mysterious projects they're working on behind closed doors? *dramatic music*

Incidentally, the title of the news post is a little misleading since there's no actual 'fusing' of the companies to be had other than the use of their names as a figurehead distribution title. It's a corporate move higher-up on the food chain.

Additionally, I'd say easy-to-use editing is always going to be a fairly big part of the games Blizzard brings out. When Starcraft modding was all the rage the go-to site was called Camelot Systems (They originally dabbled in Age of Empires tools, hence the odd name). Blizzard gave one of the guys responsible for the SC editing tools an internship and permanently employed the other - Andy Bond (Aka King Arthur). Anyone who fiddled with the Warcraft III .slk files from the mpq would probably still find comments marked as A. Bond or A.B.

...but I digress. The point is that Blizzard has a reputation. They have a proven track record as old as some of our younger members on the site. One of the big appeals for their games and their continued product lifecycle long after a game has hit its peak is the editor capabilities and user-created content. Even if you hate Vivendi for some reason or another, it goes without saying that they're not so stupid as to break a good thing by forcing Blizzard against their 'groove' or whatever you want to call it. Nor do I think Blizzard themselves would care to discard such an integral part of their games.

Anyway, I've yammered on enough. Hopefully I've said something at least marginally interesting for someone. Doubtless I've made a mistake or two. I could probably go look up the third-party company(s) that worked on Ghost, but I'm way too tired. So I'll let someone else do it for me .

 

[DoOs_101]

I think what they're trying to do is maximize firm scale so that they have expanded returns to scale. By means whenever they increase their output they get a decrease in average cost.

This means nothing internal will change, however financing and distribution will be merged. This is what I think.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

My goodness, there's so many untruths in this thread that I'm wondering whether it should come with some sort of IQ-inhibiting warning label.

I'm feeling nice and I've got my tinfoil safety hat on to protect me from the freaky-rays this thread's emitting, so I'll try and clear some of the erroneous comments made in this thread:

1) Vivendi has owned Blizzard Entertainment since 1998. For those of you keeping score, that's the year Starcraft came out. So I guess if you want to say they're an evil company who've ruined Blizzard, you should probably throw Diablo II and Warcraft III in the pile there with WoW. Which makes me wonder why you're even here on this website in the first place? For anyone wanting to be pedantic, Starcraft: Ghost doesn't count since the project was being developed by third-parties (acquired by Blizzard eventually who then put it on its infamous 'indefinite hold') and it hasn't actually been released.

No matter how long a post you make, you can't fool me old man!!!

Vivendi is pure evil and neither Starcraft or Diablo2 was any good and Warcraft2 is in my eyes a way better game than Warcraft3, what Wc3 has is the World Editor which is the only reason (custom games) that I didn't quit the game after "completing" (cheating my way through) the campaigns.

Vivendi has ruined plenty of good franchises from other companys and I bet they have had a major say in what has gone on in the Blizzard camp aswell. I again mention Leasure Suit Larry, one of my all time favorite adventure game series up untill Vivendi thought it would be good to turn it into some crap game.

 

[TKF]

Hmmm very powerful editor for SC2, and no heroes that levels normally. (like in wc3). That would be weird. I hope they will include an rpg system in the editor at least, so people might make funnier maps for SC2. I find it weird if they don't. Warcraft owned battle realms martial arts cuz it has a small rpg system. (If you haven't played battle realms, it similar to warcraft 3, but a different strategy games that looks like japanese warcraft III, but no leveling heroes or good editor here... so it sucks in comparison)

I only like WC3 cuz its custom maps. I never play melee.

Playing melee, is something I do in starcraft. WC3 custom maps is better than the starcraft custom maps.


I doesn't like games so much in general that doesn't have cool enough editors to make fun maps. I like flexible games with great editors. Like Warcraft 3...

 

[Eleandor]

Hmmm very powerful editor for SC2, and no heroes that levels normally.

Read the whole thread.

 

[Amish_KOTP]

Quite frankly, I believe the deal between Blizzard and Activision shows the character of Activision...aka Blizzard put in 2 million...activision put in 1 million...

This means (in my personal opinion) that Activision doesn't care about the games it makes just the money from them.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

That's a very odd comparison. Why would they care less? Blizzard has nothing to do with Activision, Vivendi has. Vivendi is the boss of both of them.

I've certainly played more great games from Activision than from Blizzard too.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Same here, to be honest.

 

[Toadcop]

ha lol =)
DooM/Quake (1-3) = id software

Activision = Publisher. not more. Blizzard are game developers.
so in fact Activison==EA==Vivendi
idk.

time will show anything ^^