Are you Canadian???

[PurplePoot]

Heres my opinion, we are there as a police force, the only way I can think of cutting down crime: Increase Your Police Force
(or put some money into improvements, along those lines)

Here's the way I think of it: Don't go in and cause the crime in the first place.

war makes money, i think i saw somewhere that more money is produced from war and arms than anything else. i do believes the arms industry is the largest in the world.

Either arms or oil, they're both up there (Hey look, recognizing something?)

Firstly, lets start off I don't know a damned thing about Katrina, or hurricanes, etc., but to me, it seems that the people down there should've taken some action instead of relying on our leader whom they "believe is retarded"

They want support from him because he is one of the people who controls what the national government does...

Btw, Nazi has the word socialism somewhere in there, lats time I checked socialism was on the left

Last time I checked, the Nazis were a socialist party before Hitler took power, and a fascist party after.

Universal health care is not a good thing. Well if you had both it would work I guess.
Universal health care is awesome one paper, shit in practice.

• If you had both, it would work worse
• How does it not work?

 

[donut3.5]

Nazism is German Fascism, which is German Nationalism, that's all.. Hell, its no worse than Indian Nationalism. Its just what they did is bad.
And no, the Nazis were ANTI socialist, they accused Jews of being communists/socialists (because of Karl Marx I believe) and used it as an excuse to persecute the Jews, since many world powers were capitalist at the time.
Also, if the president is a retard, he's still our (regrettably) goddamn president. We should expect him to do SOMETHING, hopefully. the fact he didn't makes him a retard.

Secondly, completely point.... THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!??!??!, we took baghdad with a few f*cking thousand troops, we beat the living shit out of saddam, jesus, were not sending them to the trenches

For what reason? We claimed Osama was linked to Iraq. He wasn't. So then, we decided WMD's were linked to Iraq. They weren't. Finally, after missing point after point, we just decided Hussein was a bad person. Hell, we didn't even have a reason, we were just making shit up to go to war just to please the media.

Heres my opinion, we are there as a police force, the only way I can think of cutting down crime: Increase Your Police Force
(or put some money into improvements, along those lines)

And who gives us the right to be said police force? Iraq is not our child, the world is not under our control despite the misconception created by egocentric Americans.
Also, if we did wind up putting money into health care as opposed to the useless war, we'd be along so much better.
Not to mention, this war is what Osama Bin Laden wanted us to do. We're pretty much pissing off the rest of the world, which is his entire message, "America is evil". By continuing to war unnecessarily, its no wonder why he looked down on us like such, and why many other countries are starting to look down on us like such.

Wow that image is IGNORANT.
I'm not going to state why yet, i will give the poster a chance to research why it is ignorant first.


anywho.
Cananada was good for; fake ID's, getting alcohol underage, and a massive illegal drug trade.
Thanks cananada.

I laughed at the irony of those two statements.
Anyways, all in all, I'd probably prefer living in Canada to America, so I wouldn't have to be so damn embarrassed every time my country/country's media/country's politics makes a retarded action. Which isn't a rarity.
--donut3.5--

 

[Teh_Ephy]

As a matter of fact, most Canadians who can afford to have procedures performed in the US do, because universal health care means waiting in lines.

 

[Hakeem]

Anyways, all in all, I'd probably prefer living in Canada to America, so I wouldn't have to be so damn embarrassed every time my country/country's media/country's politics makes a retarded action. Which isn't a rarity.

That only applies when you're old enough to vote.

 

[donut3.5]

True, I still feel as if I have to apologize whenever I enter an international group, despite whether my voice matters or not.
--donut3.5--

 

[Herman]

Nazism is German Fascism, which is German Nationalism, that's all.. Hell, its no worse than Indian Nationalism. Its just what they did is bad.
And no, the Nazis were ANTI socialist, they accused Jews of being communists/socialists (because of Karl Marx I believe) and used it as an excuse to persecute the Jews, since many world powers were capitalist at the time.
Also, if the president is a retard, he's still our (regrettably) goddamn president. We should expect him to do SOMETHING, hopefully. the fact he didn't makes him a retard.

For what reason? We claimed Osama was linked to Iraq. He wasn't. So then, we decided WMD's were linked to Iraq. They weren't. Finally, after missing point after point, we just decided Hussein was a bad person. Hell, we didn't even have a reason, we were just making shit up to go to war just to please the media.

And who gives us the right to be said police force? Iraq is not our child, the world is not under our control despite the misconception created by egocentric Americans.
Also, if we did wind up putting money into health care as opposed to the useless war, we'd be along so much better.
Not to mention, this war is what Osama Bin Laden wanted us to do. We're pretty much pissing off the rest of the world, which is his entire message, "America is evil". By continuing to war unnecessarily, its no wonder why he looked down on us like such, and why many other countries are starting to look down on us like such.


I laughed at the irony of those two statements.
Anyways, all in all, I'd probably prefer living in Canada to America, so I wouldn't have to be so damn embarrassed every time my country/country's media/country's politics makes a retarded action. Which isn't a rarity.
--donut3.5--

I might not post about PP's stuff(maybe later) because I'm a wee bit lazy

Firstly, we did not go in there to make the media happy, thats complete BS, and for some reason a few of you like to pretend the media is mostly controlled by the right, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of little liberal/left signatures all over the media. ALL OVER, just keep your eyes open

And when you say please the media, Do you mean to say our president is conspiring with FOX to destroy the rest of the world?, not making a joke here, that is DUMB

Uhh... Hussein a bad person... hmm gassing whole villages... taking away almost every human right a woman could possibly have.... terrorizing the populace to keep his regime.... that had nothing to do with this decision...

Did I mention killing off thousands at a time using nerve gas?

I am sure Osama bin laden wanted us to isolate his entire fortune and force him to hide in a cave until he is caught and hung, and we really don't look bad, just our president (which I believe is debatable anyway), who will be leaving soon (IN YOUR FACE!!!)

Where are all these international citizens when you need them???

Do you mean to say, that despite the fact that we are a massive global power who controls most of North America, we aren't sharing the same Earth??? The same Economies?? WE ARE ALL HUMANS LIVING ON THE SAME PLANET!!!!

Let's not completely glaze over 9/11 here......

And I am never ashamed of my country, on the contrary quite proud, our founders realized the importance of competition in politics (and a great deal of other things)

I don't ever believe political actions are truly dumb, it really depends on whose side your on, there are always things about actions that can be criticized, and the good ol' two party system we have does everything they can to exploit the inevitable faults of the other, so I try not to get sucked into the bullsh*t

President Bush stopping a hurricane... the fuck is he gonna do? Tell the army to shoot at it? This is something the local government should've had a handle on well before Bush was ever in office

Sending more money to our ridiculously overpayed doctors = sending more money to our insurance companies = money that goes to lawyers, and if you wanna research it, we have approx. 7x the lawyers in the US than any other country in the world, proportionate to our population

If the money going anywhere, it should go to the taxpayers in the first place, health care in the US is an economic drainpipe
Same with the education system (at the moment)

If you honestly laughed at those and not just typed it as a petty insult, than I say you are merely ignorant, because in my eyes you are wrong in almost every aspect of that post, excluding maybe the Nazi post, because that is the same bullsh*t they fed me in History class, and I have yet to research otherwise, so I cannot totally disagree

 

[Solar Flashlight]

yeah, I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Coldest city on the face of the earth with a population over 500,000. It got to -54 celcius last winter. Also the murder capital of Canada, but that's not really saying much. We got like 22 murders this year. As a comparison, Los Angeles got over 1200.

 

[donut3.5]

Then why did we go over there? Our reasons kept on getting shot down. It really did seem like a string of lame excuses to me.
I never said we don't share the Earth, but we don't control it. We are not the world's mother who has to tear apart the children. Hell, its because we act that way the "children" do more fighting.
He could, perhaps, send relief effort in a more timely matter?
There are terrorist attacks all over the world. Hell, we're rather fortunate in terms of terrorist activity. Yet we're the only one who has to get angry and destroy everything in our path.
Also, don't try and BS me and say the media isn't corrupt. Thinking back on Katrina, there were two photos:
one was a white man with the caption:
"Man bravely struggles to survive Katrina"
and the other was a black man with the caption:
"Man pillages and robs nearby store"
If that's not corrupt, then I don't know what is.
Fox news is ESPECIALLY. My brother studied debate last year, and learned that 75% of people who watch Fox news still (at that point) believed Osama Bin Laden and Hussein were directly connected. Also produced by Fox: "Obamanation". That is so horribly politically incorrect, to make it sound like Abomination. I don't know how you can not think that is wrong.
Of course, being the conservative you are, its in your name, you aren't going to budge an inch, so this all falls on deaf ears I suppose.
And to be honest, I find most political decisions dumb on both parties. It's just the republican's make even less sense to me. Don't blame it on my education, I've had a string of several republican voting teachers, and I live in a primarily republican city. Don't make assumptions you know absolutely nothing about. Blame your own goddamn education for even TRYING to compare liberals to Nazis.

Anyways, on a (slightly) more relevant note:
This = awesome.
--donut3.5--

 

[Herman]

FSRM iodrtgyu6jshju ytj

I just wrote a huge logical argument.... and then "UP YOU GOTTA LOGIN TO POST!" GO BACK GO BACK!!!

I WAS LOGGED IN YOU DOUCHE OF A MACHINE!!!

ALL OF THE TEXT IS GONE!!!

SDF giorhioefhdnmijumt

FUCK IT, IM NOT RE-WRITING IT

 

[PurplePoot]

For the record, the American left is more 'less right' than it is 'left' (There are leftists who live there, but in the party scheme of things, the Democrats are not really, and the Republicans definitely aren't).

And Herman, by your philosophy, the US should go and declare war on half the world (Including almost all of Africa, among other places) because there are 'bad people' in power there.

And Herman, summarize?

---

The Canadian Military uncyclopedia article is okay, but it is nowhere near up to quality with some articles on the site.

 

[donut3.5]

True, but it was one of my favorites pertaining to the topic
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[Herman]

Yeah my summary was in that post up there.... except it got obliterated by this damned machine.... DAMN!!!

Ok, well, if you want legitimate reasons for going after Hussein, there you go, if you want to nullify those reasons by saying "well half the world is evil, why did we pick him?" well we had a pretty good guess that those 2 planes came from that general area, hence the start of the whole war

I don't really know what the inside situation with Osama + Hussein, I just figured one would group them together as enemies, your enemies enemy is your friend etc.

But, yeah we got seriously f*cked up over the towers, hence we needed to get those radicals, they were hiding around in the Middle East, so we had a serious reason to be there
(Fun Fact: Hussein's' favorite movie was Black Hawk Down)

You mean Democrats are more Anti-Republican than actually Democrats?
I guess.... that seems to make a hell of alot of sense

 

[brad.dude03]

yeah, I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Coldest city on the face of the earth with a population over 500,000. It got to -54 celcius last winter. Also the murder capital of Canada, but that's not really saying much. We got like 22 murders this year. As a comparison, Los Angeles got over 1200.

Yeah, I've heard that too. Then again, London is apparently the thunderstorm capital of Canada, and we get like none, so yeah

And Herman, he means that the Democrats are less Liberals and more Centrists >.>

 

[Herman]

Oh yeah, I fergot Canandia is supposed to be part of the CommonWealth of England, or some ridiculous agreement that makes me glad I'm not Canandian (I'm glad my countries military does not employ flying squirrels as well)

 

[brad.dude03]

I find that incredibly offensive. Take your disdainful attitude elsewhere plox.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

yeah, I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Coldest city on the face of the earth with a population over 500,000. It got to -54 celcius last winter. Also the murder capital of Canada, but that's not really saying much. We got like 22 murders this year. As a comparison, Los Angeles got over 1200.

I didn't even see that post :O. I was born in Winnipeg, but moved to Denver.

Ok, well, if you want legitimate reasons for going after Hussein, there you go, if you want to nullify those reasons by saying "well half the world is evil, why did we pick him?" well we had a pretty good guess that those 2 planes came from that general area, hence the start of the whole war

I don't really know what the inside situation with Osama + Hussein, I just figured one would group them together as enemies, your enemies enemy is your friend etc.

But, yeah we got seriously f*cked up over the towers, hence we needed to get those radicals, they were hiding around in the Middle East, so we had a serious reason to be there
(Fun Fact: Hussein's' favorite movie was Black Hawk Down)

/facepalm
Al Qaeda (sp) claimed responsibility for the attack. Al Qaeda is from Afghanistan. If you'll recall, the US was in Afghanistan before Iraq. The US went into Iraq because of how badly everybody thought that Saddam had WMDs, which it did look like he did. There's no reason, however, for the US not to begin pulling out of Iraq, because there are areas that are becoming stable.

 

[Voidwalker]

Osama Bin Laden is CGI.

 

[Herman]

I didn't even see that post :O. I was born in Winnipeg, but moved to Denver.



/facepalm
Al Qaeda (sp) claimed responsibility for the attack. Al Qaeda is from Afghanistan. If you'll recall, the US was in Afghanistan before Iraq. The US went into Iraq because of how badly everybody thought that Saddam had WMDs, which it did look like he did. There's no reason, however, for the US not to begin pulling out of Iraq, because there are areas that are becoming stable.

/hacks hand off with a handy dandy machete
Yeah the whole bit about having nukes is definitely scary enough to invade a country, especially if said country is run by a lunatic

I would say we need to stay there, we need to make sure the radicals do not re-gain any strength

All we need to do now is hold it all together until the politicians over there work out the situation

I find that incredibly offensive. Take your disdainful attitude elsewhere plox.

The bit about the squirrels was a joke connected to the uncyclopedia page on canandias military
I didn't really mean so much that Canandia sucks, more so that that agreement sucks

 

[Sansui]

This is not really about foreign affairs but more a simple question.
however I will entertain the offtopic posts with a little love.


1. Iraq attacked an ally.
2. Iraq was committing genocide.
3. Iraq refused to follow sanctions.
4. people would be bitching at the USA if they didn't do anything.
5. we are in Africa, just not in numbers as they have very little value to us sorry. hey we still send shit loads of aid.(which the food rots on the docks because of greenpeace)
6. Almost all of Africa is an internal war with no clarity besides violence.(match pointless deaths with pointless death?)
7. Iraq was an external war for the protection of our allies and investments, not the acquisition of new oil.
8. wmd's were said to have existed were not and never were the main reason to go to war, then again we would have known for sure had husein actually do what the UN had told him to and allow the inspectors in.(the un would rather sit back and send aid to the enemy and send paperwork.)
9.al-quieda had ties to iraq. As large sums of equipment and money was provided by Iraq. Afgan terrain was a shitload harder to manage than iraq(cut off the supply, suffocate the threat)


you know we could say the british government was partaking in the genocide of the irish during the great hunger

hmm and you could say that lookie here the british you could say are ten time worse causing world wide genocide with their agricultural policies, and their modern imperial policy which is commonly referred to globalization.
which basically means they tell people what they can and can not produce.. now you see
They like to base aid on the amount of cash crop produced for foreign trade. this is the food that the people of said countries will not be able to eat to survive.

and here is some fun facts.(look them up if you dont believe me. plus my memory could be betraying me so prove me wrong here.)

for the past 10 or so years we have been producing less basic grains than consuming.
this is killing supplies.

PLUS the little alternative fuel kick has kicked into the supplies even more and not to mention hit th production levels for consumption even harder.



Oh and I hear racism was pretty big in canada and a little bird said its growing again.

 

[brad.dude03]

Racism was big? That's why we took the black slaves out of your country to be free in ours >.>

 

[Sansui]

Racism was big? That's why we took the black slaves out of your country to be free in ours >.>

why when i mention racism do bring up slavery? that wasn't racism, that was slavery. yes a bunch of racism was involved but there was tons of white slaves during the time as well.


anyways.

It was racism against Chinese, Japanese, and natives... but whatever.
Oh and you didn't TAKE them out, they escaped into your land, even most of them escaped to the north(northern states and canada) long enough to make money to buy their freedom.





Then again slavery and racism is and was a much bigger problem elsewhere in the world than it was here.

 

[PurplePoot]

Ok, well, if you want legitimate reasons for going after Hussein, there you go, if you want to nullify those reasons by saying "well half the world is evil, why did we pick him?" well we had a pretty good guess that those 2 planes came from that general area, hence the start of the whole war

I don't really know what the inside situation with Osama + Hussein, I just figured one would group them together as enemies, your enemies enemy is your friend etc.

But, yeah we got seriously f*cked up over the towers, hence we needed to get those radicals, they were hiding around in the Middle East, so we had a serious reason to be there
(Fun Fact: Hussein's' favorite movie was Black Hawk Down)

"September 11, 2025: American terrorists crash into UAE buildings. In retaliation, the UAE invades Canada."

Yeah the whole bit about having nukes is definitely scary enough to invade a country, especially if said country is run by a lunatic

Except they didn't, and they also apparently didn't put very much effort into checking their facts.

4. people would be bitching at the USA if they didn't do anything.

When the UN wasn't a big fan of the idea?

9.al-quieda had ties to iraq. As large sums of equipment and money was provided by Iraq. Afgan terrain was a shitload harder to manage than iraq(cut off the supply, suffocate the threat)

If I recall correctly, Saudi Arabia had much stronger ties than Iraq, but they trade too much oil with you guys to be worth attacking.

you know we could say the british government was partaking in the genocide of the irish during the great hunger

What's your point?

Oh and I hear racism was pretty big in canada and a little bird said its growing again.

Racism was big everywhere in the European (and colonies thereof) world, and much more so in the US of A.

Then again slavery and racism is and was a much bigger problem elsewhere in the world than it was here.

Was, depending on the time frame. Is, definitely.

 

[donut3.5]

9.al-quieda had ties to iraq. As large sums of equipment and money was provided by Iraq. Afgan terrain was a shitload harder to manage than iraq(cut off the supply, suffocate the threat)

You.. you are aware that we funded Osama Bin Laden too, right?
--donut3.5--

 

[Sansui]

You.. you are aware that we funded Osama Bin Laden too, right?
--donut3.5--

you are aware that we did not fund Osama.(this is a common myth) We however did offer aid to afgans fighting for their country as did the UK.
Osama was an outspoken opponent of Saudi Arabia's reliance on the us.


However, you may also note we stood behind Hussein before finding out how fucked he was and what he planned to do. We helped people who claimed they wanted a greater good(during the communism scare) and it came back to haunt us. whats your point?





Purple poot: yes even though the un wasn't too fond. Because the world is not the UN and the UN is worthless.
No one respects the UN's sanctions and they can't seem to realize that. Iran laughs at the sanctions imposed by the UN and China flat out said yea we aint going to listen.

War with a a strong and long time ally who only recently has become strained due to them failing to be strict enough on Islamic fundamentalism.
You do know they came from Saudi Arabia as they WERE a strong ally of US meaning it would be easier.

 

[Firelord213]

Well if I am right the point of the thread is ''Are You Canadian?'' , How did you guys manage to end up talking about slavery & Middle east or what ever you're talking about.
I would suggest you to make a new thread and talk about it there so you can post stuff without being off-topic.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

That's called topic evolution, and is one of the main reasons why you should read the thread before you say anything. You would know exactly how it happened

 

[brad.dude03]

It's pointless closing a thread because it's deviated from the original topic. When people are through discussing something in a normal human conversation, the topic always changes to something else. Such is human nature, and trying to prevent it online is failure.

 

[Hakeem]

Tangents FTW?

 

[HappyTauren]

It's pointless closing a thread because it's deviated from the original topic. When people are through discussing something in a normal human conversation, the topic always changes to something else. Such is human nature, and trying to prevent it online is failure.

but we habs a subforum for that D:

 

[Herman]

"September 11, 2025: American terrorists crash into UAE buildings. In retaliation, the UAE invades Canada."

The hell?

What does UAE stand for here...?

 

[donut3.5]

It's a joke. He's saying that we picked a random unrelated person to blame because we were pissed.
And Sansui, how is it a myth? Can you provide evidence which disproves the numerous school textbooks I have read which say otherwise?
--donut3.5--

 

[SantaBla]

United Arab Emirates I think so...
As for the poll, I voted proud other (Mauritian)

and all these political debates makes me sleep.

 

[Hakeem]

It could be worse. We could be talking about...


The Upcoming Election!

 

[Sansui]

It's a joke. He's saying that we picked a random unrelated person to blame because we were pissed.
And Sansui, how is it a myth? Can you provide evidence which disproves the numerous school textbooks I have read which say otherwise?
--donut3.5--

LOL, yes read a real text book on modern history. Otherwise prove that they did. I don't need to prove they didn't you need to prove they did.

 

[donut3.5]

I can't prove it more than what I'm told, since I was not alive during that time period to see the transactions, and to ask for proof like that is absurd. Now if you want me to go to my school, and check out our textbook with the reason "I need to prove some random guy on the internet wrong," that's just about as absurd.
However, you say it's a common myth yourself, so obviously there is some proof (or reason to believe) leading to it. If you're stating its a myth, it's your job to prove it false as opposed to mine to restate something you said you've already heard.
--donut3.5--

 

[Sansui]

Ok so you want to do this ass backwards and cant back up your own claims.

No problem, Ill scan the facts or find a website or two that state it. Just give me some time since i'm having too much fun playing gw and writing papers on modern american history(my liberal arts minor in uni).

 

[Incarnation]

OK EVERY1 IS WAAAAAY OFF TOPIC! WHO CARES ABOUT FOX? THIS IS ABOUT CANADA!

EVEN though they hav a whole army without guns...

IM NOT-SO-PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN SOON TO BE AUSTRALIAN!!!

 

[brad.dude03]

...

Our army is supplied with guns, you retard. We just have a SMALLER army, due to our relatively small population (33 million). Plus, we don't spend 300 billion a year on fucking military, unlike our Southern neighbour.

 

[Incarnation]

LoL im talking about the MULTESE(poodle?)

 

[PurplePoot]

To SantaBla and Herman, yes, UAE is United Arab Emirates, hence the juxtaposition.

To everyone else, while it is fun to joke about Canada's military, don't confuse that with the truth - we provide the biggest peacekeeping force in the world (and have since its invention by Lester B. Pearson, who was also the prime minister of Canada for a while), are the only country supplying a good deal of troops to Afghanistan (though kudos to France for sending some recently, especially when they had no promises to keep), and had one of the largest (Third?) navies in the world after one of the world wars (I think it was the first).

Perhaps the main reason that we don't have one to the same scale as our southern friends is that we don't go around attempting to police the world how we see fit.

But yes, the submarine fire was rather amusing .

 

[brad.dude03]

LoL im talking about the MULTESE(poodle?)

WTF does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_(dog) have to do with anything?

 

[Sansui]

Perhaps the main reason that we don't have one to the same scale as our southern friends is that we don't go around attempting to police the world how we see fit.

Yes because WE want to.
No we DON'T want to.
The second we stop "policing the world" however we catch more flack then when we do.(everyone comes to the US for help)
seriously y'all need to stop being so jealous and bitching all the time.
Seriously you would be saying the same shit about any country that was seen as the top dog.
Its like you all see the USA as this HUGE ROCK STAR and you are soooo jealous you feel the need to bash it anyway you possibly can(even if that means altering facts and or plain making shit up.) so you can have this false disillusion that you are worth something, and or cool or something.

Seriously it's lame, and the fad is beyond retarded probably more so then tight black pants.

You saw the same thing when the British were in control, everyone "flames" and "insulted" them.
Same thing you see when the employees talk about the boss behind his back.
Same behavior exhibited when KIDS get together and bash and insult the actions of adults because they think they know whats best.


If you really wanted to see change maybe the other countries should stop bitching when we don't help and bitching when we do help and actually do something.
Oh wait the UN is too broken to ever accomplish anything beyond worthless paperwork.




Oh and information for the LIAR(donut) that is making false claims.
note i didn't feel like searching for my textbook as I may have sold it.
Misinformation

 

[PurplePoot]

Sansui, yes, people criticized Britain too, but again with justification (India, South Africa, etc).

If you don't want to be policing the world then why are you going out of your way to do it?

 

[Hakeem]

Is the concept of the people's wants being different from the governments actions too hard to understand or am I missing something?

 

[PurplePoot]

Is the concept of the people's wants being different from the governments actions too hard to understand or am I missing something?

Perhaps your opinions have changed in the past two or so years, but last time I checked you're living in a democracy.

 

[donut3.5]

We aren't. We're living in a democratic republic, which is slightly different.

Same thing you see when the employees talk about the boss behind his back.
Same behavior exhibited when KIDS get together and bash and insult the actions of adults because they think they know whats best.

One major flaw in that point: We do NOT own the world. The world is not our child, every country isn't our underling. If you think so, its clear insight into why we are hated so very much for arrogant people like you.
Also, I see where the myth comes from, I apologize for my mistake. They were indirectly funded by us, but it was not our choice to create them. (Though I did find the article sketchy, but it is very valid proof).
--donut3.5--

 

[Teh_Ephy]

The biggest problem is that there is a right thing to do, there is the best thing to do, and then bureaucrats can't decide between either so they do something that isn't even in-between, and usually fueled by the most powerful bureaucrat's self-interest, and helps minimally (but it does help a little). The US is taking heat for it because the US is the most conspicuous country to do so.

 

[PurplePoot]

The US is taking heat for it because they're the country with the power to mess up the world.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

That's what makes them conspicuous D:
And they're a country with the power to mess up the world, not the only one.

 

[PurplePoot]

They're the main country that can mess up the world without ending it in nuclear warfare.