WoW: The Battleground +AI [1.2]

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Moderator: StoPCampinGn00b version 1.0.a WoW: The Battleground +AI by Andreariona RATINGS [COLOR=white [COLOR=white Scores[/COLOR]] Gameplay: 23/30 Terrain & Scenery: 20/20 Total Score: 43/50 Explanation[/COLOR]]5 Stars: 47+ 4 Stars: 40-47 3 Stars: 25-39 2 Stars: 10-24 1 Stars: 1-9 CRITIQUE Gameplay: This is a WoW gameplay based arena. Classes are based off of WoW classes, as are the abilities. I do agree with Bhusta in parts of his review. The start and the spawns would be a lot less annoying if they were on opposite sides of the map. Though visually pleasing, the abilities don't have enough creativity in them. I do like their usefulness and their correspondence to the hero class, but most of them are very basic. The movement speed of the map is perfect, but I do feel AI should help team mates more than wander on their own to pick a 1v1 fight. As for the balance, I didn't have any issues when playing it twice. To my conclusion, the gameplay of the map is well above average, medium paced, and entertaining if you love strategic team arenas. 23/30 ​ Terrain & Aesthetics I can't speak highly enough about the terrain. Custom tile usage blends very well, doodad placement is on point! Structural, environmental, bunched up, spread out, you name it, the doodad placement is aesthetically fun to look at and is very detailed. It's not just 20 of the same doodads placed across the pathways, there is a huge variety. Height leveling was present and done carefully. Great use of high quality custom icons and models. WoW recources easily fit in to the map. The whole map looks like I'm playing in an HD version of Warcraft III. Amazing! 20/20​ VERDICT The only way a map can be approved is if it follows the map submission rules that apply to the map type. - All rules followed, map approved! - For those of you wondering about the imported materials rule, recourses from other Blizzard games are allowed. ​ NOTES Overall, I feel that you did a great job with this map despite the minor gameplay faults. I also would love to see a 6v6 mode. Feel free to contact me about this review on this map page OR message me about anything. (+2) reputation points for taking your time to upload this map to Hive.

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[andreariona]

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Upcoming Release: Warlock new looks.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Looks pretty cool. I'll check it out soon.

 

[Heinvers]

I'll be playing this when time will be plenty. Thanks for uploading

 

[andreariona]

Thank you for comments, I'd appreciate the feedbacks.

 

[Exarch]

You are the one! thank you for all labor i'm about the test it.

 

[andreariona]

You are the one! thank you for all labor i'm about the test it.

Thank you, let me know if you had any issue when playing the map.

 

[Vinz]

This looks amazing, breathtaking terrain and visuals.

I will test when I have time.

 

[andreariona]

This looks amazing, breathtaking terrain and visuals.

I will test when I have time.

Hello, thank you for the compliments.

 

[Forsaken]

WoW! It's pretty lovely, It's my favorite map of yours! Good work andreariona!

 

[Chaosy]

time to test my tool again, yay

Map Name: WoW: The Battleground +AI [1.0] Version: 1.0 Author: andreariona Terrain[r] The terrain was somewhat simple, but yet the models blends together perfectly due the WoW rips being.. well perfect for eachother. Even with that said I think you could use a bit more 'random' decoration objects like small flowers, mushrooms and that type of stuff. 4/5 Gameplay[r] I think that the gameplay was too simple it was basically run 'n' gun, run around and attack everything that moves. On the good side though, the spells were nice and worked fine with good visuals and detailed tooltips. I also want to point out that you made a wonderful job on the texts in general everything is colored properly etc. However, the biggest issue about this map is the lack of time you get when you enter the map. If I play the map for the first time I will start playing 2-3 minutes later because the others already knew which class they would pick and what the abilities do and so on. While I had to stay and read every single class before chosing which one I want to play as. 3/5 Story[r] null 0/5 Uniqueness[r] While arena maps can't be extremely unique due their limited gameplay mechanics I think that this is the first WoW themed one I've seen. 4/5 Overall[r] Overall Overall I think that the map was ok, even while I see that effort has been put into visuals and details I just feel like something is missing from the gameplay. Play it once, fine. Play it twice, and it becomes boring. I strongly suggest something like random events every 2-3 minutes. And maybe a boss somewhere that your team can defeat for good loot / exp. The possibilities are endless.. 3.5/5 Bugs[r] bugs 1. I clicked 30 kills to win but the the message I get right after entering the game says 20. 2. it say "has defeat -name-" instead of "has defeated" 3. fire mage's W tooltip says that the spell only damaged enemies, however if you select where to cast it, the caster will get green as well as the enemies. Reviewed by: Chaosy Contact: Visitor Message, PM

 

[Heinvers]

I think that the terrain could've deserved 5/5 you know

 

[makimkd]

finally +rep

 

[andreariona]

@forsaken: hey, thank you forsaken!

@chaosy: Hello, thanks for the bugs report, fixed those two typos. Although the caster also turned green on AoE circle, fire mage W AoE ability only target on enemies if you notice the damage.

I've made a detailed version terrain before, but has been revised several times due to the temporary lag it cause on 5 vs 5 (when I tested it on non-gaming laptop) even after I did polycount reduction on those doodads models to made it less laggy. So for now, I'd stay with the terrain like that since not everyone using hi-end PC. And if they perfect each other easily, why do I need to edited them in the first place before using them on the map?

Hmm guess you're right, I'll add a delay time before pick and include other considerable suggestions. Thank you for the review.

@heinvers: lol thank you heinvers!

 

[sentrywiz]

I've tested the map, played two times for 50 kills. Didn't finish the second.
Played as Warlock the first time and Undead Rogue the second.

My Personal Review & Opinion

PROS

- Terrain is beautiful
- Low size models and terrain (map is within 7mb limit)
- Models and items are amazing
- Spells are flashy and accurate
- Spells scale with your stats
- It has an AI (yay!)


CONS

- Its not newbie friendly (it just throws you to learn everything yourself)
- Spells are kind of dull and seem like basic abilities with changed tooltip and icons
- Items don't seem to do much, you win by buying tomes to increase stats
- NPC Vendors are all over the map. Takes time to learn where is which
- Combat is for the most part dull and boring
- Map is too large to wonder around. Heroes are kind of slow
- No way to heal yourself outside of combat (except the occasional runes)
- There are 3 legendary items that you need mats that you cannot find anywhere. Bots always get them... from somewhere


OVERALL

Its a great visual map, with lot of potential. But for the most part, the combat is boring and feels grindy. The items are there to taunt you to buy them and then regret not spending that gold to buy tomes. I got repeatedly killed by a Shaman with 2 spells despite the fact that we were the same level and I had like 4 items and he only had the trainee wand.

I think that the map needs lot of balancing, like Rogue spells are kind of badly managed, the damage abilities and stealth have long cooldowns but the poison which just reduces speed has a low cooldown. I haven't tried all the classes, but from watching bots play them I can say that the Plate class is more powerful than the others. I could of barely scratch a death knight with a warlock but he could chase me and murder me.

Maybe WoW fans will like this map more the way it is. I think it needs lot of changes, especially in the combat and the map. Its way too big for an arena whose grinding is really slow and the items don't do much. So all that remains is you to grind gold and honor by killing creeps and heroes and buy tomes.

 

[andreariona]

Hello, thanks for checking it and leave feedback, unfortunatelly you're playing on a not first timer friendly classes (Mages, Shaman, and Warriors, and Retribution Paladin is the one). This is my first experimental attempt to made a large scale arena map based off from a battlegrounds WoW, so the huge area were intended as it is. Vendor located on the city on the middle, so I put a "mark" of them on the minimap display instead of put them on both side ress point, which is why there's a mid arena portal near on your ressurection point there. Also I made the legendary materials quite difficult because they called legendary for a purpose.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, I'll consider the suggestions needed, since I spend more time working to reducing the mesh materials polycount and stuff for visual, I need a gameplay feedback in general to improve it better. Thank you.

EDIT: Made an essentials fix mentioned on feedbacks above and classes changes before reworking on the models and other materials again (due to would be taking more time).

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[September 29th, 2014] Update Version 1.0.a released with following changelogs
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- Fixed 30 team kill typo
- Fixed death message typo
- Added Fountains on both Allance and Horde ressurection point
- Add portal effect
- All Classes base health regeneration increased by 4 times
- All Classes base mana regeneration increased by 6 times
- All Ores now also cost 2 Honor Points
- Added floating text on vendor NPC
- Added temporary quick stance on stand channel animation for these class: fire mage, frost mage, elemental shaman, holy priest, hybrid monk
- Fire Mage: Pyroblast add cast time by 1 second
- Fire Mage: Polymorph duration increased from 3 to 4 seconds
- Fire Mage: Polymorph cooldown increased from 30 to 40 seconds
- Fire Mage: Flame Strike damage reduced from 400% magic to 300% magic
- Fire Mage: Combustion add cast time by 1 second
- Fire Mage: Combustion mana cost increased from 45 to 55
- Frost Mage: Frost Nova damage reduced from 400% to 300%
- Frost Mage: Deep Freeze add cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Deep Freeze cooldown increased from 30 to 50 seconds
- Frost Mage: Add Cone of Cold cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Add Frost Nova cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Frost Nova damage increased from 300% to 400%
- Elemental Shaman: Add Lava Burst cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Earth Shock cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Lightning Bolt cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Healing Surge cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Add Inner Will cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Inner Will damage bonus increased from 20% to 35%
- Holy Priest: Add Penance cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Penance damage reduced from 499% magic to 300% magic
- Holy Priest: Add Mind Blast cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Mind Blast damage reduced from 300% to 200% magic
- Holy Priest: Inner Will healt mending effect decreased from (50+100% magic) into (30+100% magic)
- Holy Priest: Add Holy Light cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Soul Burn cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Shadow Bolt cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Malefic Grasp cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Malefic Grasp damage over time increased from 8 to 13
- Affliction Warlock: Malefic Grasp now also deals 100% magic
- Global Rogue: Stealth cooldown reduced from 60 t0 20 seconds
- Assasination Rogue: Vendetta duration increased from 10 to 20 seconds
- Combat Rogue: Increase Vitality duration from 20 seconds to 30 seconds
- Combat Rogue: Increase damage rate increased from 30% to 40%
- Combat Rogue: Increase health regeneration from 4 to 5
- Hybrid Monk: Fists of Fury now also deals 200% dexterity to nearby enemies in 200 area of effect
- Hybrid Monk: Fists of Fury speed boost reduced from 60% to 40%
- Hybrid Monk: Stance of Fierce Tiger duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds
- Hybrid Monk: Add Breath of Fire cast time by 1 second
- Hybrid Monk: Add Dragon Fist cast time by 1 second
- Arms Warrior: Battle Shout duration increased from 20 to 40 seconds
- Arms Warrior: Battle Shout damage increased from 50% to 80%
- Fury Warrior: Berserker Rage duration increased from 20 to 40 seconds
- Fury Warrior: Berserker Rage health regeneration increased from 4 to 8
- Holy Paladin: Devotion temporary armor boost reduced from 13 to 11
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion damage boost increase from 40% to 60%
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion duration increased from 30 to 45
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion now also restore 6% maximum health when activated
- Frost Death Knight: Howling Blast damage increased from 100% power to 200% power
- Frost Death Knight: Howling Blast attack speed reduction increased from 60% to 120%
- Blood Death Knight: Vampiric Blood duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds
- Blood Death Knight: Unholy Fever attack speed boost increase from 80% to 90%
- Blood Death Knight: Unholy Fever nearby enemies area of effect range reduced from 250 to 200
- Blood Death Knight: Scarlet Fever duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds

 

[Chaosy]

-No way to heal yourself outside of combat (except the occasional runes)
- It has an AI (yay!)

I just have to second those, somehow I forgot to mention them.

 

[andreariona]

Made an essentials fix mentioned on feedbacks above and classes changes before reworking on the models and other materials again (due to would be taking more time).

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[September 29th, 2014] Update Version 1.0.a released with following changelogs
======================================================

- Fixed 30 team kill typo
- Fixed death message typo
- Added Fountains on both Allance and Horde ressurection point
- Add portal effect
- All Classes base health regeneration increased by 4 times
- All Classes base mana regeneration increased by 6 times
- All Ores now also cost 2 Honor Points
- Added floating text on vendor NPC
- Added temporary quick stance on stand channel animation for these class: fire mage, frost mage, elemental shaman, holy priest, hybrid monk
- Fire Mage: Pyroblast add cast time by 1 second
- Fire Mage: Polymorph duration increased from 3 to 4 seconds
- Fire Mage: Polymorph cooldown increased from 30 to 40 seconds
- Fire Mage: Flame Strike damage reduced from 400% magic to 300% magic
- Fire Mage: Combustion add cast time by 1 second
- Fire Mage: Combustion mana cost increased from 45 to 55
- Frost Mage: Frost Nova damage reduced from 400% to 300%
- Frost Mage: Deep Freeze add cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Deep Freeze cooldown increased from 30 to 50 seconds
- Frost Mage: Add Cone of Cold cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Add Frost Nova cast time by 1 second
- Frost Mage: Frost Nova damage increased from 300% to 400%
- Elemental Shaman: Add Lava Burst cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Earth Shock cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Lightning Bolt cast time by 1 second
- Elemental Shaman: Add Healing Surge cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Add Inner Will cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Inner Will damage bonus increased from 20% to 35%
- Holy Priest: Add Penance cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Penance damage reduced from 499% magic to 300% magic
- Holy Priest: Add Mind Blast cast time by 1 second
- Holy Priest: Mind Blast damage reduced from 300% to 200% magic
- Holy Priest: Inner Will healt mending effect decreased from (50+100% magic) into (30+100% magic)
- Holy Priest: Add Holy Light cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Soul Burn cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Shadow Bolt cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Add Malefic Grasp cast time by 1 second
- Affliction Warlock: Malefic Grasp damage over time increased from 8 to 13
- Affliction Warlock: Malefic Grasp now also deals 100% magic
- Global Rogue: Stealth cooldown reduced from 60 t0 20 seconds
- Assasination Rogue: Vendetta duration increased from 10 to 20 seconds
- Combat Rogue: Increase Vitality duration from 20 seconds to 30 seconds
- Combat Rogue: Increase damage rate increased from 30% to 40%
- Combat Rogue: Increase health regeneration from 4 to 5
- Hybrid Monk: Fists of Fury now also deals 200% dexterity to nearby enemies in 200 area of effect
- Hybrid Monk: Fists of Fury speed boost reduced from 60% to 40%
- Hybrid Monk: Stance of Fierce Tiger duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds
- Hybrid Monk: Add Breath of Fire cast time by 1 second
- Hybrid Monk: Add Dragon Fist cast time by 1 second
- Arms Warrior: Battle Shout duration increased from 20 to 40 seconds
- Arms Warrior: Battle Shout damage increased from 50% to 80%
- Fury Warrior: Berserker Rage duration increased from 20 to 40 seconds
- Fury Warrior: Berserker Rage health regeneration increased from 4 to 8
- Holy Paladin: Devotion temporary armor boost reduced from 13 to 11
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion damage boost increase from 40% to 60%
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion duration increased from 30 to 45
- Frost Death Knight: Shadow Infusion now also restore 6% maximum health when activated
- Frost Death Knight: Howling Blast damage increased from 100% power to 200% power
- Frost Death Knight: Howling Blast attack speed reduction increased from 60% to 120%
- Blood Death Knight: Vampiric Blood duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds
- Blood Death Knight: Unholy Fever attack speed boost increase from 80% to 90%
- Blood Death Knight: Unholy Fever nearby enemies area of effect range reduced from 250 to 200
- Blood Death Knight: Scarlet Fever duration increased from 20 to 30 seconds

 

[Heinvers]

2 words: FUN GAME

 

[andreariona]

Thank you very much.

 

[Vinz]

It is amazing. There are a few flaws though, in a full house, I could not see the tooltip hotkeys because of the leaderboard occupying its space. I suggest it be a multiboard (it has minimize). Also, I find it rather hard to kill people with their high hit points. I vote for 5/5 mod rating nonetheless!

E: I forgot to add; the AI is top notch. I love the neutrals too. Though, I suggest Warlock Drain to be triggered so it scales with Magic Attribute.

 

[Chen]

Ooh nice im gonna test this one. Good job ma friend!

 

[Heinvers]

When worgens are going nuts

So I was enjoying my game with my Worgen Rogue (rawwrrr) and I noticed that you made her quite versatile. Thanks

PS. these AI's are very well done I must say.

 

[andreariona]

@mythic: hello, thanks for the rate 5. I just somehow loves the classic leaderboard better, it made your company/friends names memorabe on online play, might add -hide option on the future instead, certain classes had high health because their primary and attribute points contributed in strength, their role as tanker is there for a reason. Might made drain scaleable with att as well. Thank you.

@chen: thank you, happy playing fella!

@heinvers: whoa 300 kp! haha thanks for playing it in long game.

 

[Heinvers]

Well yeah, why not? I felt like the other kill requirements were too short and I enjoy killing stuff and going kuku

 

[andreariona]

Well, happy to heard that someone really enjoying the whole game. ^^

 

[sentrywiz]

E: I forgot to add; the AI is top notch. I love the neutrals too. Though, I suggest Warlock Drain to be triggered so it scales with Magic Attribute.

^this. Life drain is kind of weak later on when everyone's spells do zillion points of damage and you only steal 14 life per second. I know it would require more bothering to make a valid scaling life steal, but I know it would be worth it to the warlock players.

Also Howl of Terror - I expected to be a valid fear, but its just a debuff with damage.

 

[kakuzu]

WoW , very good maps , nice heroes and good gameplay !

 

[andreariona]

Hello, thank you for the compliments.

 

[Ragnoras]

WHOO!!!! PANDA"S a comin' gonna test it out'!

 

[cesclame]

What you have done is just amazing, the map is really really great, you can be proud.

 

[andreariona]

Hey, thank you for the compliments. Really appreciate it.

 

[jxtranghero]

another awesome map xD

can u add pandaren?

i mean more pandaren

 

[Ragnoras]

ii still quite laggy, verry leggy

 

[Vinz]

When I tested, it wasn't laggy. I think it's your computer; another computer of mine lags even on unit selection.

 

[TheGreatJoshua]

AndreaRiona, I just want to say... IT IS AWESOME!!!!!! I can't wait to play it! I will play it time to time to look for bugs and stuff. Keep up the good work!

 

[andreariona]

It's no longer laggy even on my non-gaming laptop except on the starting battle when all AI spawned on middle of arena. Well, as mythic said it's probably your PC, unfortunatelly.

@jhxtranghero: thank you for the compliments, I think 1 panda is enough as I don't want the map turned into a safari garden.

@thegreatjoshua: thank you for the compliments.

 

[jxtranghero]

then can you make a map like fufu ninja? you known their awsome...

 

[andreariona]

then can you make a map like fufu ninja? you known their awsome...

Lol. What's fufu ninja?

 

[Ragnoras]

hey is that abug or wht? a hero just dies at once with full hp after my deathknight use blood atrike

 

[andreariona]

hey is that abug or wht? a hero just dies at once with full hp after my deathknight use blood atrike

Well, which DK? I don't remember gave any skill named "blood strike".

 

[Legal_Ease]

Very nice. Smooth terrain and user interface. Great spells. Sounds could be better and the portrait had no animation for speech (panda). The music was a bit intense, but over all and well polished piece of work. Certainly high quality. 5/5

 

[andreariona]

Very nice. Smooth terrain and user interface. Great spells. Sounds could be better and the portrait had no animation for speech (panda). The music was a bit intense, but over all and well polished piece of work. Certainly high quality. 5/5

Hello, thank you for the compliments. I gave all heroes camera potrait instead of separate talking potrait with talking animation purposely for file size wise.

 

[Vinz]

hey is that abug or wht? a hero just dies at once with full hp after my deathknight use blood atrike

Probably Death Strike?

 

[Ragnoras]

Yes! Death stike but sorry for the trouble it wasn;t a bug, i wathed that replay, bfore my deathstrike got through, the AI casted a spell on him critically hit him and than my death strike came, so.. sorry to trouble you Anderiona@

 

[andreariona]

I see, np because I checked them both and their abilities worked fine.

 

[Shadow Fury]

The map is really awesome but also fantastic maps have some issues:

- The arena is far too large and the heroes are too slow. Maybe an extra teleporter would be appropriate.
- Affliction Warlock seems to be too unbalanced. He has two skills which deal 400% magic damage and that's pretty much considering that he has a skill which blocks a hero in his place and that I can steal life from him. Then his howl of terror deals considerable damage too. I can kill someone like a Fire Mage, despite his silence and polymorph, in a few seconds. All that makes the hero imba
- Consumable items like potions and scrolls would be good
- Not really good for a first-time player. I mean, why do all heroes start fighting just as you pick? It's very laggy and you don't have time to know your heroes' skills.

But anyway, the map is truly amazing and deserves a 4/5 plus my vote for APPROVAL!

 

[andreariona]

Hello, thank you for the feedbacks and compliments. The huge scale arena were purposely done like in actual WoW battleground itself, intentionally created to brings long game battle and RPG-like feeling factor.

Other suggestions mentioned are considered and would be included in next version.

 

[sammath]

Downloaded, played and enjoyed.

You should add more game modes, maybe capture the flag or control points.

Rated 4.5 / 5