[Discussion] Would you be interested in working in a community project?

[MasterTrainer]

Good developers don't just join ANY projects. You should know better.

I think we're lucky enough to have you join this project. You are aren't you?

 

[morbent]

Stath you can't drink while working! Otherwise.. you will write some random stuff and Mag will have to fix it. Or you will write normal good codes.. but.. hm. Drunk. No one can do shit while he/she is drunk.. hm....

whatever... so. We're gonna go for a cartoonish style? I'm not really sure if that would fit a Warlock game. Also.... it's not so easy to draw cartoonish stuff.

 

[Magtheridon96]

I think we're lucky enough to have you join this project. You are aren't you?

Well, only partially o-o
I help Stat whenever he has code problems /o/

 

[MasterTrainer]

Well, only partially o-o
I help Stat whenever he has code problems /o/

Wow; thanks!

 

[Binsu]

So Mag is with us?

 

[MasterTrainer]

So Mag is with us?

Yeah he is partially with us. He sometimes help Statharas with the code.

 

[Binsu]

Yeah he is partially with us. He sometimes help Statharas with the code.

Thats good to hear.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Any good independant projects starts with an experienced programmer doing the core of the game all by himself on a daily basis, several hours per day.

You can never convince skilled and experienced programmers or artists without a piece of existing code that allows to demonstrate where everything is going.

These videos by ExtraCreditz might be something for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCuUWGmatpU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQvWMdWhFCc

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Highly recommend you guys watch most if not ALL of the Extra Credits episodes to either help in this project or just learn a thing or two. Very insightful and teaches you a lot on game design. Also, ErrantSignal and MrBtongue are good ones as well, which have a greater ludological focus in games.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I want to point out two things:

1.) Drunken_Jackal your sig says CHANG is coming lol
2.) If I ever learn anything sufficient about programming I shall help as long as I can.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

The links above are about Game Design and Ludology, and touches very little on programming.

Also, MasterTrainer, I guess you don't watch Community.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Well, I guess not.

What is Community?

 

[Statharas]

Am trying to find some time to code. Imma ditch my wingman tomorrow and start coding some UI.

 

[Foronisus]

Going to watch the Episodes Extra Credits. Btw wanted to say i like to try to make a Music for the game. I am working in the Music program for few years im not proffesional auctually im far from proffesional but i will try hard to make it best possible also its my first sound for a game so ill try my best and ill update the music every time.

So as i said i can help in Creating the music, Game designer and 2D Art

 

[Statharas]

"Conjure" some sound effects

 

[Asomath]

After reading all 51 pages, here is my input:

GDD, GDD, GDD, and GDD

GDD stands for Game Design Document. This is the unifying piece, the thing that will (under strong leadership) keep your game from falling apart.

Someone needs to author one (at least, I highly recommend it). It's a daunting task, put is pivotal nonetheless.

Cheers,
~Asomath

 

[MasterTrainer]

A GDD contains these right:

• Story
• Characters
• Level/environment design
• Gameplay
• Art
• Sound and Music
• User Interface, Game Controls

So it's like the blueprint for the game?

 

[Asomath]

Right, it's the guide and the reference. From it comes a real development process. If anyone is familiar with the film-production process, the GDD is very similar to a script-breakdown. Once the GDD is completed, you have drawn out and listed the production elements needed to complete the project. It then becomes easier to deal assignments, avoid confusion (and thus resource mismanagement), and, pertaining to Rover2341's question on page 41, assess a timeframe for the project's completion.

In short, the GDD forms your developmental infrastructure. It is the main road that your team leader pushes the project over on the way to completion.

~Asomath

 

[MasterTrainer]

Great!

I would suggest we split into little groups that will complete the GDD, as for me I would like to be the one that writes Gameplay, Art, and Story. Anyone who is willing to join me might as well do. As for the others pick one field and start working!

(That is the assumption; or at least, that's what I think we should do)

 

[Binsu]

Great!

I would suggest we split into little groups that will complete the GDD, as for me I would like to be the one that writes Gameplay, Art, and Story. Anyone who is willing to join me might as well do. As for the others pick one field and start working!

(That is the assumption; or at least, that's what I think we should do)

That idea looks great... +3 REP. I might maybe join you in writing the Gameplay and Story.

 

[Statharas]

Don't forget to PM me your e-mails to add you to the dropbox folder.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

GDD contains everything in a game, and absolutely everything from budget, expected release date and content. For bigger projects, the GDD's are usually split into the Design, Technical, Art, Test, etc. documents. It should be done at the pre-production phase (which is now). Also, Google Docs could be neat for the document itself or maybe a wiki instead (docuwiki is neat).

Just creating the game without a design document is bad, so we need to do pre-production first.

 

[Binsu]

GDD contains everything in a game, and absolutely everything from budget, expected release date and content. For bigger projects, the GDD's are usually split into the Design, Technical, Art, Test, etc. documents. It should be done at the pre-production phase (which is now). Also, Google Docs could be neat for the document itself or maybe a wiki instead (docuwiki is neat).

Just creating the game without a design document is bad, so we need to do pre-production first.

Genius....lol!

By the way, so we will use GDD? Or some further plannings?

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Here's a good article to get started: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3224/creating_a_great_design_document.php

Generally, there should be a Concept Paper, Design Document and Production Document according to the article.

 

[Asomath]

@Drunken_Jackal, good find! That article is a very scholarly and insightful description of a GDD. I recommend it to anyone who is participating.

As to the splitting up into groups idea, that's fine to a certain extent. Just remember though that one person should be managing all of the subsections in order to maintain the documents integrity. As in, the author needs to look at each of the elements that are being written and make sure the document flows consistently.

~Asomath

 

[MasterTrainer]

I think Statharas should manage the subsections and maintain the documents' integrity.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Let's avoid royalties and keep the budget low.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Let's avoid royalties and keep the budget low.

What do you mean 'royalties'?

 

[morbent]

Dead.

xD ,

 

[Binsu]

Let's avoid royalties and keep the budget low.

There are many meanings for royalties but let us guess, is it related to payments?

Because you've talked about budgets.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Someone should put up a Concept Document via Google Docs, or start a wiki for the design document.

 

[morbent]

Hm. Actually.. who is the leader.. I mean, the one who decides what everyone else should do, etc. Isn't it Stath? So .. stath has to make that design document. I guess.

 

[MasterTrainer]

^ Stath will make the design, and we'll help too right?

 

[morbent]

Stath will give each of us orders what to do. And we'll do it.. so, yeah basically we'll help . He will also make codes I guess.. and Mag will help him. At least, that's what I think everyone said he will do.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I'm getting excited. So basically what we're going to do first is assist with completion of the GDD, correct?

 

[morbent]

what the fuck was GDD. My memory is weak for some things like that :X just tell me what to do xD

 

[MasterTrainer]

GDD is the Game Design Document. I mentioned some posts ago the components of a basic GDD, and I thought everyone interested should pick-out what part of the GDD they can do and start working on it, solo, in-pairs, or in teams.

Though ultimately it's Stath's decision.

 

[morbent]

Well.. I read it but I forgot -.- what this thing was. I should re-read it.. .if only I could find the page.

 

[MasterTrainer]

If you want a grasp what GDD is, either find the post by Drunken_Jackal (I think) or search Wikipedia.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Concept Paper first though, before the actual GDD.

Linky to the post: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...unity-project-229316/index52.html#post2336134

 

[morbent]

Oh yeah, now I remember. After seeing this. So... Stath will make the Concept Paper right? Or do we all do that together? Or someone else?

 

[MasterTrainer]

I think we do that all together.

@Statharas man what do you say? We need some leadership here.

 

[morbent]

Or Dr Super Good. Hmm. Or since Jolly gave the idea of this project he can like.. lead the... ideas of the game stuff.. Like. Hmm. What we need to do.. and Stath will tell us what we should do.. and the Doc can.. I don't know, organize us

Urgh. Hm. LEADERS COME. We need our leaders to come online ;(

 

[MasterTrainer]

I agree. Jolly_ came up with the idea, so he should also maybe lead the ideas of the game and stuff.

Basically we can't act without a leader, so anyone willing for now?

 

[morbent]

Not me!

 

[Binsu]

Maybe the active here should be the leader because the more active the leader, the more work we will get done but I also fear it depends if the leader has the skills of handling a group and also the skill to help in developments.... leader will not just stand and command others but also help.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Not every one active here has the skills to lead this project. I'm starting to be active here but I can't be a leader, but I can sure help in the development.

 

[Binsu]

Not every one active here has the skills to lead this project. I'm starting to be active here but I can't be a leader, but I can sure help in the development.

I think we will never need a leader if we only act as one. Like as you said each of us will do a corresponding job, we write a story, one does the arts and etc...

 

[Xonok]

I think we will never need a leader if we only act as one. Like as you said each of us will do a corresponding job, we write a story, one does the arts and etc...

...and get a unicorn with camel humps. No, there must be a leader.

 

[Binsu]

...and get a unicorn with camel humps. No, there must be a leader.

Lol unicorn.. well.. er..... ok.