[Discussion] Would you be interested in working in a community project?

[MasterTrainer]

Anyways looks like we won't do much progress until Stath says the word, or someone brave enough will be the project temp-leader.

 

[Statharas]

I blame my sister for fucking up with my hard drive. Am back with my SSD equiped and half a terra on standby.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I blame my sister for fucking up with my hard drive. Am back with my SSD equiped and half a terra on standby.

So you lost some data regarding the game program?

 

[Statharas]

Please. Who do you think you're talking to.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Oh sorry again; I was just tired when I posted that. Sorry.

 

[Statharas]

Before I go into implementing game systems, I want some input about the UI, how the main menu should look, etc.

How is the concept art going, Morbent? Put them all in a single post.

I want people who can model after Morbent's concept art to say so as well.

 

[morbent]

Urgh.. I haven't made any concepts of the UI, since.. we never talked about what should be there and what not... if you were referring to concept art of the UI.

.. hm. So you want me to upload all the concept arts I've made for this project so far, yes, no?

 

[Statharas]

I meant the concept art in general.

 

[morbent]

Oh.. well, I haven't made anything specifically for the project actually.. hmm. Only some.. random drawings... What should I draw :?

 

[Statharas]

Some arenas would be interesting.

 

[morbent]

Urgh.. K, I'll draw some stuff tonight.. I . guess.

although, I'm not good at landscapes and such

edit: K... I made one arena.. but it kinda.. sucks. It's a temple that's overtaken by vines and such.. and.. hm, the "lava" is a place full of vines... that damage you.

 

[Just_Spectating]

can we start a new thread for things like this please?

 

[MasterTrainer]

Yeah I agree. We need to start clean and fresh in a new thread to get things organized.

 

[Jolly_jumper]

Awesome! Loving the enthusiasm to get this shit rolling
I think we need first to figure out how we want the game to be played....like if we want it to be similar to wc3 with everyone first entering a lobby default to their country of origin with different channels you can join or create depending if it exists from before or not.
And a matchmaking system for joining a "random" game with some optional prefixes like [2v2]/[1v1]/[shuffle]/[2-team]/[FFA] etc.

Okay shit i'm at work and gotta go now, they're shutting of the net, but i hope you understand where i'm going with my thoughts here, i'll come back to you tomorrow(in spain only internet at work )

 

[morbent]

No! No new threads.. .. I Can't follow so many threads T.T also, we don't even talk that much in here so I don't see what the problem is.. it's not like this is a FULL spammed place where each day you have to read like 4 pages.. no.. like.. 1-2 comments a week -.- lets keep this one

(why is there only net at work jolly! Spain is stopping us from progressing!)

 

[MasterTrainer]

Why don't you unsubscribe from one of your subscribed threads? That's what I do.

 

[morbent]

Urgh.. I often unsubscribe from many threads..but they are still too many. Also, why do we REALLY need to discuss everything on a different thread? I mean, this one is not that.. spammed out.. as I said you don't get like 4 pages every day there isn't much to read anyway.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Okay, so let us all forget about moving this to another thread, unless Stath says otherwise.

Anyways, morbent, how's it going with the art?

 

[morbent]

urgh.. as I said.. hehe... before... hm... I'm not good at landscapes and such.. territory art.
Although, I DID make some concepts of one area but ergh.. it isn't anything special :\ Maybe hmm.. someone else should. handle that part xD

I have some ideas about the UI but lets first discuss it here - what will we have - Score, NO life Thingy... only bars on head of every unit + spells stuff, menu and ... that's it I guess. Minimap? Nah.. or maybe yes?

 

[MasterTrainer]

I can draw I should say average-looking landscapes, sometimes better, but when I scan it into my laptop the resolution drops like hell.

 

[morbent]

Urgh,.. hmm, You can choose to what resolution the scanner should make it. Look around the options, it should be somewhere there.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Yeah I see there 300, 600, 1200, but I don't really know what to choose. Does a high number = good resolution or lower number = good resolution?

I'm getting a feeling of the right answer here I just want to make sure.

 

[morbent]

high number --> more pixels --> higher resolution. But you'll need to make it like ... 3000x3000 if you really want REALLY high resolution. Hmm.. plus, there are some color options... select "yes" for colors cuz you can Saturate them afterwards anyways.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Cool I'll try to post one tomorrow.

 

[Dr Super Good]

That is the DPI or Dots Per Inch. This is the same as pixels per inch.

300 DPI means 300 pixels per inch or 300*300 pixels per inch^2.

You should read the manual of your scanner as often you are allowed to scan at a higher DPI than the scanner physically supports. The result is interpolation which increases pixels without increasing information content. Best results are obtained at the maximum DPI that the scanner physically supports.

After scanning, you may want to do a histogram stretch. This maximizes the intensity spectrum of the image improving contrast without losing information. The differences such an operation does is noticeable, I have recently done that to my avatar which is why it looks much clearer than before. Other histogram operations are also useful for simulating effects like saturation.

 

[morbent]

Doc... . wtf man

where did you learn that from xD? Wow. Everknowing doc. Hm. Now.. that you're here,.. since you appeared from your Stealth start bossing around and organizing the bees.

 

[Jolly_jumper]

My vision of how the game will be played:

Step 1 - Doubleclick .exe file

Step 2 - Enter nickname and password

Step 3 - Enter default(editable) channel where you get pinged right away(for matchmaking) with the option to chat with ppl there to gather up a group to play a private/semi-private match or just select what type of game you want to play and join a random(ish) game lobby

Step 4 - Wait for enough players while voting for modes(unless it's a game lobby with a set game mode)

Step 5 - When lobby fills everyone gets pinged again and gets a message with their ping and the average ping of the players in lobby(could also be requested at any time), game starts when enough players have joined, been pinged and enough mode votes have been gathered

Step 6 - Kick some ass and increase those stats! ;D


Okay so thats basicly how i've envisioned it to work
I'll be back later today with more of my thoughts, i hope noone takes offense about me sharing them here

 

[MasterTrainer]

There should be a Player vs. Bot mode.

 

[morbent]

I'll be back later today with more of my thoughts, i hope noone takes offense about me sharing them here

Why would anyone be offended Jolly, every idea is valuable xD also, nice ideas. Master Trainer is right though, there should be some .;. hmm.. self-experience mode, like Bot FIghting.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Jolly, I think the login screen could be with a login screen on the right side and a news feature (shows tournaments, leaderboards, news, etc.) with updates and such. AI should be one of the lesser priorities, with PvP stuff first.

 

[Jolly_jumper]

AI is insanely difficult to make for a game like Warlock and most likely it will never be unpredictable enough while still being accurate and competitive enough to be any good

But there could be some mode(s) with NPC stuff like survival mode with an endless amount of waves with increasing size/difficulty, solo, co-op or even in a tournament where you compete either 1 by 1 or in groups with some way of fucking up for eachother ;P
And/or a mode could be made very similar to the map Impossible Bosses which is really fucking awesome, but also a huuuge project which i think should be left alone for a while still and lets concentrate on the "Normal mode" first

Btw really nice input there DJ, completely agree


Edit:
I'm not sure what is needed first, but if ppl are feeling their creative spirit is tingling we sure could use some concepts on different arenas, heroes, UIs, spells and maybe even icons so there's alot to do for many different artists!
The programming part is not something i can help with or know much about in general so where to start on that part i don't know, but i would guess we'd start with the gameplay, like how the heroes move/shoot and how the arena shrinks etc. but maybe also other stuff is needed to be implemented in the beginning like damage points(if we add that so the more dmg you've taken in a single round aka the more DP you got the stronger the knockback from getting hit by spells would affect you) and other stuff i can't remember right now, gotta go, they're shutting off the net at work now, hasta mañana

 

[Statharas]

I am going to scale the width of the buttons based on Screen.width soon, so they'll look better. I tested it only inside the editor, so I was surprised to see it in 1366*768

Anyway, let me know about what you think of the UI setup.

Also, turn on captions.

 

[Binsu]

I am going to scale the width of the buttons based on Screen.width soon, so they'll look better. I tested it only inside the editor, so I was surprised to see it in 1366*768

Anyway, let me know about what you think of the UI setup.

Also, turn on captions.

The UI looks great but if I can give my feedbacks (even I am a noob at this).... I think there should be more designs for the button and also maybe a picture at the empty spaces. Lol and I do know its not yet complete so let us just go on.

 

[Statharas]

The background will be animated, probably cinematic view over empty arenas with music. As for the box and buttons, textures will be made for em.

 

[morbent]

this is cool. Hmm. But maybe those 2v2, 3v3.. shouldn't players be able to type what they want like.. FFA, 2v3, 2v5, etc.?

 

[Statharas]

"custom"

 

[morbent]

O. .

 

[Jolly_jumper]

At first i loved ur way of choosing the modes, but when i think about it it's alot more limited than i had imagined it to be

I envisioned it to be more like this:

First pick main mode:
1v1
FFA
# teams of #
Tournament
Domination
CTF
Survival mode
Boss mode
etc....

Then pick sub modes depending on what you picked as your main mode like; how many players, picked or shuffled teams, high or low gold etc.

And ofcourse you can leave some of the options at random or lobby-vote if we go for that aswell

Awesome that you've started trying some stuff out, how long did it take you to make that btw? Good to know for later possible concept requests about such stuff

 

[Foronisus]

At first i loved ur way of choosing the modes, but when i think about it it's alot more limited than i had imagined it to be

I envisioned it to be more like this:

First pick main mode:
1v1
FFA
# teams of #
Tournament
Domination
CTF
Survival mode
Boss mode
etc....

Then pick sub modes depending on what you picked as your main mode like; how many players, picked or shuffled teams, high or low gold etc.

And ofcourse you can leave some of the options at random or lobby-vote if we go for that aswell

Awesome that you've started trying some stuff out, how long did it take you to make that btw? Good to know for later possible concept requests about such stuff

Its gooda s it is we can allways add new modes with patches... We should do the main things right now and its Great Keep up the good work Stat

 

[Crazed_seal2]

Suggesting things for the game is ok. But don't be disappointed when they arn't added to the game. I cannot stress this enough. The more things you want to add to the game, the more work you have to do.

 

[Statharas]

I suppose I will add Game Modes too, today.

I will actually redo the entire thing and allow the player to queue for random modes too.

 

[Just_Spectating]

It would be a safe assumption that people can start making models for things like terrain and doodads, basically anything that comes to mind just so we can start stuffing our model archives.

 

[morbent]

So... urhg... what now :?

 

[MasterTrainer]

I think I'm going to be of much use in the latter stages of development... so until then, I will be silently viewing this thread.

 

[Statharas]

Do we even have any modelers watching this thread?

 

[morbent]

Check all the people who said "Yes" to the Question - will you participate, and probably the "Maybe" ones. And, even if we don't have, I'm sure that after we're almost done more people will be eager to join and some of them will be modelers I believe.

And also - we don't need many models, except doodads.

What? Spells? Particle effects and such. +5 types of warlocks (for now).. it isn't much. And doodads aren't such.. hard to make models. I mean, they don't use many polygons anyway. It's the texture which is the hard part in doodads (if it has to be custom) but we can handle that, we have many artists in here.

 

[Statharas]

Right now, I am in need of a coder that can arse himself to work with me using Unity's crappy networking. I'll work on the client while he works on the server.

Also, if you're fancy modeling/making textures, post here and I'll direct you to morbent *hue*

 

[GreeN!X]

Hey I can help with the textures whenever I can. :3

 

[Statharas]

How's this?

 

[Jolly_jumper]

I have problems fully understanding it, could you maybe come with a short explanation of how it works and what options would be available?