Wicked Rising - A new kind of survival

[Tleno]

No, by experndable I mean that the amounts are limited and they won't restore, so after you scavange few buildings in city, they'll become useless and will have nothing else inside you could use, except for the walls to protect from zombies, so you'll be forced to search for stuff to scavange somewhere else.
So, if all the resources except for those you can grow or just collect from certain spot (Like water, fish, croops and such) are limited, will the zombies be limited too, or will they have a way to respawn.

Zombie wiki? Okay, now that sounds like one of the most useful wikias in world!

You know, the chain swarm kinda gave me an idea how zombies could respawn. Ussually they don't, but if you make lots of noise (Explosions and gunshots) while trying to clear out the land from local zombies and other players, the noise will cause zombies from neighbour regions (aka from outside the playable map) to come to the area. So yes, even if that machinegun can kill zombie even from few shots in torso, not to mention head, it doesn't mean it's gonna make your life better. Most likely it will make it nightmare... otherwise that could be quite an efficient way of getting rid of your enemies. You find a well-fortifyable home somewhere zombies can't get, stash all the supplies you need there, then make some noise and wait for zombies to kill other players...

 

[The_Silent]

I return!

Alright, so, during the mass panic in which everyone was going to opposite way from the zombie horde, they generated these pileups. The zombies caught up, havoc ensured. So, I propose adding cars with zombies still inside that can (depending on the zed) attack you if you are close enough by smashing the window (even grabbing and biting). Stronger zeds can just smash the door off and smarter zeds can open it. But yes. Basically these are the people that were already bitten and turned in their cars whilst in the mass panic pileup. It'd also makes hotwiring cars, salvaging parts, etc a tad harder.

Another system that must be implemented is the Chain Swarm.

Well, zombies in the cars would be very realistic, but I have absolutely now idear how to implent it.
The chain gives it self, all zombies have a moan abillity which lures other zombies closer. Every time a zombie is targeted by the moan, it makes one itself which continues the chain.

No, by experndable I mean that the amounts are limited and they won't restore, so after you scavange few buildings in city, they'll become useless and will have nothing else inside you could use, except for the walls to protect from zombies, so you'll be forced to search for stuff to scavange somewhere else.
So, if all the resources except for those you can grow or just collect from certain spot (Like water, fish, croops and such) are limited, will the zombies be limited too, or will they have a way to respawn.

Zombie wiki? Okay, now that sounds like one of the most useful wikias in world!

You know, the chain swarm kinda gave me an idea how zombies could respawn. Ussually they don't, but if you make lots of noise (Explosions and gunshots) while trying to clear out the land from local zombies and other players, the noise will cause zombies from neighbour regions (aka from outside the playable map) to come to the area. So yes, even if that machinegun can kill zombie even from few shots in torso, not to mention head, it doesn't mean it's gonna make your life better. Most likely it will make it nightmare... otherwise that could be quite an efficient way of getting rid of your enemies. You find a well-fortifyable home somewhere zombies can't get, stash all the supplies you need there, then make some noise and wait for zombies to kill other players...

Zombies mortality depends on the players choice in the start of the map. But well, thats a great idea and ultimatly not hard to implent

 

[Tleno]

Yea, I mean, assault rifles are too much of an overkill, even though their ammo is limited, but if you break in to some police/military arsenal, you can find enough bullets to massacare all the other survivors and few crowds of zombies. And knowing that such loud noises will attract more zombies should keep people away from mass abuse of heavy weapons, more sticking to light firearms, melee weapons and hand-made equipment.

 

[Symon]

I got two things for the survival part... Just some littl ideas ^^
1. Shouldt be there something like Body heat? I mean I dont know the climatics there, whereever 'there' is, but mabye it would be cool if u could't sit outdoor the whole night without a campfire or something. I think thats bit unrealistic...
2. Mabye u should lower the effect of... äääm.. shit u're pants... Mabye just say 'Hygine' goes to zero and littl drop of 'Physiological Health', cause I think noone feels very good when shiting his pants...

You realy should think about the first one, the second isnt that important, that was just a littl idea ^^

 

[The_Silent]

Yea, I mean, assault rifles are too much of an overkill, even though their ammo is limited, but if you break in to some police/military arsenal, you can find enough bullets to massacare all the other survivors and few crowds of zombies. And knowing that such loud noises will attract more zombies should keep people away from mass abuse of heavy weapons, more sticking to light firearms, melee weapons and hand-made equipment.

Really depends on how hard you choose the zombies to be initially in the game xD and even in the case of Solanum, even the most skilled marksman can not spray randomly into a moving crowd and hit more than max 1-5% in the head.

I got two things for the survival part... Just some littl ideas ^^
1. Shouldt be there something like Body heat? I mean I dont know the climatics there, whereever 'there' is, but mabye it would be cool if u could't sit outdoor the whole night without a campfire or something. I think thats bit unrealistic...
2. Mabye u should lower the effect of... äääm.. shit u're pants... Mabye just say 'Hygine' goes to zero and littl drop of 'Physiological Health', cause I think noone feels very good when shiting his pants...

You realy should think about the first one, the second isnt that important, that was just a littl idea ^^

1: Well, temperatures will influence the condition of the survivor.
2: We've discussed this topic before, and the negative effect is not literary shitting in the pants. Its "just" another bare you have to keep up or there'll be consequences

 

[Tleno]

Wait, I tough you're getting rid of "Toilet need" stat... but whatever... I mean hygiene would be enough, no need for bathroom breaks.

 

[TheKurt009]

Edit:
This so finished it'll get for now. How it is somewhat like you've imagined it in your head.

screenshots of Kurts house

And a scrieny of the road:

screeny of road exit

Enjoy

List of things Done:
Blue Couch
Black and blue Couch
Red Couch
White Chouch
Green Neon Light
Green Neon Blue
Green Neon Red
Glass Table
Wooden table
Brick wall Door
brick_wall_corner outer
brick_wall_corner inner
brick_wall_inner tapestry
brick_wall_outer wooden
brick_wall_glass
wooden chair
garden tile path

(can't remeber more, will come on next update list ^^)

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY?
ON GARENA:
THE_SILENT MADE THIS HOUSE FOR ME AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!
CAN YOU DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS? I BET NOT!!!
SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST FIND YOURSELF A BASE AND I'LL LOUNGE AROUND MY HOUSE WHILE WATCHING YOU GETTING MAULED BY THEM!!!
edit: why did i suddenly felt like there's something in my stomach?

 

[Midnighters]

If you are talking to tleno, I am pretty sure he could make something far better than that. I could easily make that without even trying.

 

[TheKurt009]

If you are talking to tleno, I am pretty sure he could make something far better than that. I could easily make that without even trying.

for you to talk like that, don't you wanna help???

 

[Midnighters]

No, I do not, I have my own projects to work on.

 

[Tleno]

Yes, I could get a way better home. I could probably even have a house next to some family restaurant or garage attached... fr more things to salvage and free space to life and do stuff.

 

[The_Silent]

If you are talking to tleno, I am pretty sure he could make something far better than that. I could easily make that without even trying.

I builded a bunker, beat that

for you to talk like that, don't you wanna help???

I'm very worried about how the giant windows is going to hold up against the rushing hordes xD

Yes, I could get a way better home. I could probably even have a house next to some family restaurant or garage attached... fr more things to salvage and free space to life and do stuff.

Well, think restaurants will be zombie nests like any other public building.


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Not, much progress currently, threw my computer cable away, so can't work until i get a new one xD but won't take so long happily

 

[Tleno]

Well, think restaurants will be zombie nests like any other public building.
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Not, much progress currently, threw my computer cable away, so can't work until i get a new one xD but won't take so long happily

Unless it's a terribly unpopular family restaurant
Okay. I mean, we can wait some time, and if you threw it away I think you really need a new one...

 

[TheKurt009]

from what you made, those giant windows look tougher than car windshields.

 

[The_Silent]

Unless it's a terribly unpopular family restaurant
Okay. I mean, we can wait some time, and if you threw it away I think you really need a new one...

Well, burrowed a cable, so will do more work when I get home (and move the man to my stationary. xD)

from what you made, those giant windows look tougher than car windshields.

Well, even so, that isn't really that protect-able, especially if you meet hostile survivors

 

[Midnighters]

The_Silent, I have made bunkers before, with great amounts of detail.

 

[TheKurt009]

okay okay it started because of me, this is the first time i a request was made for me and i hope that you guys would stop this madness
that thing that i said before, i was really happy so i exaggerated what i said

 

[Nightblade]

Can anyone tell me which models were used for the screenies of the house and the road?

 

[Tleno]

The_Silent made them himself, and since they were made specifically for this project, I doubt you'll get them.

 

[The_Silent]

I have no clue what people are talking about...

 

[Tleno]

Nightblade wants your soul models.

 

[espatula]

Some one asked me about a second floor on wc3, don't remember who(sorry), but here it is, and might help in creativity too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjrCo-NuoI

 

[Symon]

I knowed this video before (Tricky is so awesome...!!), but thats not realy a second floor because it's not above the first floor. But I'm pretty sure that you can do a second floor above a other, because I saw it somewhen in a shooter map. In the map there was de_dust2 from CS:S and there was this bridge and it was possible to walk above and trough it. I never saw something like this before, but I dont know the name of the map... Mabye I gonna search for it tomorrow. If i'm able to find it I will give u the link.

 

[Tleno]

Well yes, see, it's just some teleport to other area that imitates second floor. This isn't really effective, since, I mean, it would be odd that you can shoot zombies from first floor, but not second one.
So it doesn't fit the overall gameplay architecture. Though it would work great with basements and such.

 

[The_Silent]

Nightblade wants your soul models.

Referred to the discussion about kurts house xD

Well yes, see, it's just some teleport to other area that imitates second floor. This isn't really effective, since, I mean, it would be odd that you can shoot zombies from first floor, but not second one.
So it doesn't fit the overall gameplay architecture. Though it would work great with basements and such.

Agree, would also require to much map space. Space that could be used for more houses, forests, mountains and so forth...

 

[Tleno]

Yes... though some kind of balconies to shoot zombies from would be awesome to shoot zombies... oh well, WC3 engine has lmits...
Offtopic: Awesome new avatar.

 

[Nightblade]

This game is 'wicked'!Can one play singleplayer?

 

[The_Silent]

Yes... though some kind of balconies to shoot zombies from would be awesome to shoot zombies... oh well, WC3 engine has lmits...
Offtopic: Awesome new avatar.

Would just seem strange with flying balconies xD

This game is 'wicked'!Can one play singleplayer?

Well, the zombies is bots, so yes, although the co-up part is going to be big, so might not be as fun.

New update

Screenshot

In an attempt to stop the spread, the police and local militia was ordered to block all cars entering and leaving the city (needs a name). The barricades and road blocks points inward toward the city. Need skeletons of policemen desperately trying to block the thread.

New Models:
Container_full
container_empty
container_destroyed
trash pile
portable ventilator
corpse hanged
landmine
Chest_wooden
chest_metal
roadblock
roadblock_fallen
roadblock_w_warning
roadblock_w_warning_fallen
roadside_warning
roadside_warning_fallen
road_warning_cylender

New Zombie Mutations:
Zombie (average zombie without mutations)
Cerberus (zombie dog)
Maggot Carrier (gets maggots every time it feasts on corpse, all maggots are spawned on death)
Starved One (weak zombie)
Maggot (Level 1 - 3, spawned from maggot carrier)

 

[Tleno]

Immpresive. Oh, and that's that "Customize Apocalypse"? Are you working on systems already? Can you tell the system progress, too? I mean, it is more intresting and immportant than custom resources.

 

[The_Silent]

Immpresive. Oh, and that's that "Customize Apocalypse"? Are you working on systems already? Can you tell the system progress, too? I mean, it is more intresting and immportant than custom resources.

Well, is playing around a system that allows each player to vote for zombie types. Customizing things like speed, immortallity, intelligence, whether or not they need a head shot to die and so forth.

Edit: by the way, needs idears for the city's name.

 

[Tleno]

Badger City? (Yes, I'm allousing to Racoon city)

Wait... didn't there was like a system that you would be able to choose a country in which action takes place which would effect the item drops, like shall we say how accessible the weapons are. Wouldn't city name look kinda weird if it's not even in specific country?

 

[The_Silent]

Badger City? (Yes, I'm allousing to Racoon city)

Wait... didn't there was like a system that you would be able to choose a country in which action takes place which would effect the item drops, like shall we say how accessible the weapons are. Wouldn't city name look kinda weird if it's not even in specific country?

It's probably going to be a fictional city anyway

Heads up, the CDC is taking zombies seriously, maybe it's actually time to prepare: http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp

 

[Tleno]

Finally those fools have realised what is an actual threat!

 

[Railto]

Woah amazing barricade! good job . finally some people realized abouth the posible zombie threat. Bear city (making fun of racoon city).

 

[Tleno]

Woah amazing barricade! good job . finally some people realized abouth the posible zombie threat. Bear city (making fun of racoon city).

and what's bad with my Badger City? :/

 

[The_Silent]

To be honest, I thought Racoon city sounded lame the first time I heard it and still do, at least change the city to something like: Badgervile if you like the animals.

 

[Marsal]

Looks promising. Will be there some blood or something scary thing on the floor/walls?
I imagined that picture with some horror effects and it's kinda reminded me of Penubra

 

[Railto]

Badgerville? isnt the game on a city Dx? what about El Dia? or LunaAzul?
PD: that was the first thing i though

 

[The_Silent]

Just a little list of what I've done since last update:

Areas:
Beach (50%)
Habor (10%)
City (1%) (It's big, don't blame me )
Swamp (99%)
Farm Land (25%)
Roads (99%)

New Models:
beach_bridge
sewer_exit
beach_umbrella
beach_chair
park_chair_table
park_bench
poster_01
poster_02
poster_03
poster_04
poster_05
poster_06
poster_07
poster_08
poster_09
drawer_old_wooden
furniture_piece_old_wooden
table_round_old_wooden
table_round_old_wooden_fallen
table_round_caffe
sign_warning_biohazard
sign_warning_qurantine1
sign_warning_qurantine2
sign_warning_privateporpety

 

[Tleno]

Wow that's a lot of models...
Could you like, by the way, post a full overview of the terrain? And what's the map's filesize now?

 

[The_Silent]

will do when I get back to my computer

 

[espatula]

to show that our city is better than racoon city I suggest name it coyote city

edit: could you make a restourant insted a house for me? here's how it should look:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4591/restaurantg.png

 

[The_Silent]

to show that our city is better than racoon city I suggest name it coyote city

edit: could you make a restourant insted a house for me? here's how it should look:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4591/restaurantg.png

Well sure, choose a furniture/design theme and I'll be right on it
(old italien, modern, what ever dunno )

tleno: map size is 5,4 of the big ones and actual map size is 254x254, will post the overview picture of the map as soon as possible.

Also:
I'm to lazy to make any models and it take to much time which could be spen on other things in the map, so I've decided to use imports for the rest. Don't want to use more space than necessary, so will re-warp things that use custom textures to use ingame textures and textures I've already used. This means I only have to make the remaining wall models for the houses before the real terraining can begin
after terraining the big work with coding will begin, and after that I think we'll be ready to launch a alfa version for testing. Also that is maybe still a bit far out in the horizon

 

[TheKurt009]

Wow so any progress?

 

[The_Silent]

Wow so any progress?

Quite a lot since you posted the last time... But well, is working on the item system currently.

 

[Tleno]

So, may I ask again, what's the progress with various systems? I mean, what's progress with what systems that you have planned to do?

 

[The_Silent]

I'm still working on the customize apocalypse option, and has working on the item system.

 

[TheKurt009]

how about the item combining? like the ones in dota?
i mean, you searched for a lead pipe, got a fuse and a gunpowder
then it turns into a pipebomb then you got a door alarm then it turns into a zombie--luring pipebomb. kinda like that. though you need a crafting bench inside your house

how about having a party with NPCs you could control? i mean you rescue them then you invite them then they would be yours to control?
and that npc you recruted is a police, a military man etc <- ex. jobs
then one could search the jungle, the city and one could stay in the house

the House is an important place right?
i mean, you found something useful but your inventory could only carry six items so you could place less necessary items inside your house.
though, the house would be a treasure chest for those hostile players trying to steal right?

and i think you already made some skills for each job right?
like marine-attitude <-passive ability (something like that)

how about special infecteds like left4dead?
the abomination also looks like a zombie and could prove deadly when going near it.

how about making the door in every house selectable? so you could place door alarms so when someone enters your house to steal anything in it it would alarm you.

what about some friendly fire? a traitor system? something like your ally has a pseudo-uber-super-mega rifle shotgun and his health is low you could shoot him to get his items?
but some items are droppables not all of them.

hope you like my ideas

 

[Tleno]

I think we already discussed most of these things long time ago.

 

[The_Silent]

how about the item combining? like the ones in dota?
i mean, you searched for a lead pipe, got a fuse and a gunpowder
then it turns into a pipebomb then you got a door alarm then it turns into a zombie--luring pipebomb. kinda like that. though you need a crafting bench inside your house

Crafting will be possible, however I never liked the idea about workbenches, work benches will give a skill bonus or something. Crafting should only need apropiate tools (items).

how about having a party with NPCs you could control? i mean you rescue them then you invite them then they would be yours to control?
and that npc you recruted is a police, a military man etc <- ex. jobs
then one could search the jungle, the city and one could stay in the house

Don't know, it will ruin the co-up part.

the House is an important place right?
i mean, you found something useful but your inventory could only carry six items so you could place less necessary items inside your house.
though, the house would be a treasure chest for those hostile players trying to steal right?

The item system is a multiboard with arrow key movement to navigate with. So you slots will depend on how much you can carry. But yes, obviously you can carry everything you need to survive (like a generator), so your house is gonna be like a heavy barricaded base.

and i think you already made some skills for each job right?
like marine-attitude <-passive ability (something like that)

I made some skills, some jobs that got certain skill bonuses, and som special abilities available to the job.

how about special infecteds like left4dead?
the abomination also looks like a zombie and could prove deadly when going near it.

That is what mutation parameter is for in the "cusomize apocalypse".

how about making the door in every house selectable? so you could place door alarms so when someone enters your house to steal anything in it it would alarm you.

They are, along with that, you can barricade every single door, lock it, and so forth. But good idear

what about some friendly fire? a traitor system? something like your ally has a pseudo-uber-super-mega rifle shotgun and his health is low you could shoot him to get his items?
but some items are droppables not all of them.

hope you like my ideas

Point your gun toward a friend and fire, he'll take damage like in real life. Other players must decide whether to attack the attacker then. The will be a resurrection in the map just to avoid friendly kills and early deaths due to "noobyness", but you'll be a new survivor that have to start all over. You can load you skill points (save load system), but that is that.


Overall, we're discussed most of this as tleno said. Not sure if I remember all correctly though.