White River Valley

Moderator · May 18, 2013

21:19, 24th May 2013
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Hell_Master;2344954 said:
Played the map and quite nice but you have some problems due to creeps, little in terrain and some races. Here is my review regarding your map:

Warcraft 4: White River Valley Review

[+] Good Points:
-Terrain is good but you have some problems at some points.
-Cool new custom races.
-A great addition of 3rd person camera
-The map has the follwing resources that melee map needs: Gold Mines, Shops, Fountains and there is an additional... this Pub. Nice job!

[-] Bad Points:
-Terrain is good but I have noticed at some point you putted doodads incorrectly, terrain is really flat, terrains at some point again is empty.
-I think the the Clockwerk like race is somehow at point imbalance. Sniper Units has 56 - 58 damage and that is too big for a starting units if you ask me at least make their attack speed lower.
-3rd person is good but dont you think that it will be hard for melee?
-Creeps are so strong! Creeps near at each Races' base are strong... Bandit Lord is strong and due to the fact, it can cast Divine Shield.

[] Suggestions:
-Improve some of the parts in your terrain! use raise/lower tools to make different levels in the ground, fill the mepty areas in the game with more doodads, remove those incorrectly putted doodads
-Either lower down the Sniper's damage or lower the attack speed of the Sniper.
-Dont put strong enemies near the bases of each races. Put them on wel-hidden area or at far areas.

Overall, this is quite a decent altered melee with good terrain, somehow balanced races and such. I would rate this 3/5 and +4 REP to you!

Voting also for Approval!

Wa666r · May 18, 2013

From playing and seeing the description, I know that you had placed a lot of work into this map. Great job! For anyone who enjoys some PvP or a new spin on traditional gameplay, this is the map for you. Great job, 5/5.

Lichkings slave · May 19, 2013

Seems like a very, very interesting map :goblin_good_job:

I'm gonna give it a try :ogre_hurrhurr:

Vinz · May 19, 2013

The terrain is not that good, it only uses blizzard cliffs. Good new shops, but the icons don't really fit and have bad pixels or are just pictures taken in maps and resized.

AwzomeWulfzz · May 20, 2013

It looks pretty good, but Third person Melee is going to be pretty hard. But, you put a lot of effort in it, and I enjoyed it. 5/5. Oh, and uh, Where did you get the idea of Warcraft V? And yet no sign of Warcraft IV or something.

Legal_Ease · May 20, 2013

Its in the heart. Its hope not only for the next addition but a prayer for more to come after that. I've seen a IV somewhere (WarCraft IV) and a youtube teaser. This is my pleading for Blizzard to bring back its RTS and overcome the evil powers of DoTa and LoL.

Davion24 · May 21, 2013

Played dwarves and things I found :
when the axe men became spear men they get a passive "poison sting " but I found that didn't work,
also some skills that supposed to be researched but didn't appear, like the last ability for the cleric
and lastly I wished that the spy bird from the cleric had a move command.
still alot of bugs but great game.

The zoom bug that gives you attributes is here also.
I know this is still in working stage. :3

Good me :
ok terrain 3/5
gameplay can be sretched from quickie and long games 5/5
overall = 4/5 .

Legal_Ease · May 21, 2013

Davion24 said:
Played dwarves and things I found :
when the axe men became spear men they get a passive "poison sting " but I found that didn't work,
also some skills that supposed to be researched but didn't appear, like the last ability for the cleric
and lastly I wished that the spy bird from the cleric had a move command.
still alot of bugs but great game.

The zoom bug that gives you attributes is here also.
I know this is still in working stage. :3

Good me :
ok terrain 3/5
gameplay can be sretched from quickie and long games 5/5
overall = 4/5 .

First off thanks for the great comments.
I'm working on the "zoom bug" almost finished with it.
Are you saying the Spirit Sparrow (spy bird) did not move? Because it should., and it used to fly...
I will look into the research tech requirements. What else besides the Cleric Master training failed?

People really seem to not enjoy the terrain. This makes me a little sad, though I'm sure its for good reason. I designed the terrain to look like my town. I live in the White River Valley and the terrain is a fairly accurate portrayal of the landscape here. Oh well, my bad.

Davion24 · May 21, 2013

Legal_Ease said:
Are you saying the Spirit Sparrow (spy bird) did not move? Because it should., and it used to fly...

People really seem to not enjoy the terrain. This makes me a little sad, though I'm sure its for good reason. I designed the terrain to look like my town. I live in the White River Valley and the terrain is a fairly accurate portrayal of the landscape here. Oh well, my bad.

The bird has no move command , I could move it using Detonate then stop it.
.
The map is your hometown?.. oh god .. all those blood battles on your town :goblin_jawdrop:

Legal_Ease · May 21, 2013

Davion24 said:
The map is your hometown?.. oh god .. all those blood battles on your town

Not any real ones since the 1700s. But ya, that's the idea.

EDIT: Bugs fixed thank you for the insightful comments.

Binsu · May 24, 2013

Played the map and quite nice but you have some problems due to creeps, little in terrain and some races. Here is my review regarding your map:

Warcraft 4: White River Valley Review

[+] Good Points:
-Terrain is good but you have some problems at some points.
-Cool new custom races.
-A great addition of 3rd person camera
-The map has the follwing resources that melee map needs: Gold Mines, Shops, Fountains and there is an additional... this Pub. Nice job!

[-] Bad Points:
-Terrain is good but I have noticed at some point you putted doodads incorrectly, terrain is really flat, terrains at some point again is empty.
-I think the the Clockwerk like race is somehow at point imbalance. Sniper Units has 56 - 58 damage and that is too big for a starting units if you ask me at least make their attack speed lower.
-3rd person is good but dont you think that it will be hard for melee?
-Creeps are so strong! Creeps near at each Races' base are strong... Bandit Lord is strong and due to the fact, it can cast Divine Shield.

[] Suggestions:
-Improve some of the parts in your terrain! use raise/lower tools to make different levels in the ground, fill the mepty areas in the game with more doodads, remove those incorrectly putted doodads
-Either lower down the Sniper's damage or lower the attack speed of the Sniper.
-Dont put strong enemies near the bases of each races. Put them on wel-hidden area or at far areas.

Overall, this is quite a decent altered melee with good terrain, somehow balanced races and such. I would rate this 3/5 and +4 REP to you!

Voting also for Approval!

Legal_Ease · May 24, 2013

Hell_Master said:
[-] Bad Points:
-Terrain is good but I have noticed at some point you putted doodads incorrectly, terrain is really flat, terrains at some point again is empty.
-I think the the Clockwerk like race is somehow at point imbalance. Sniper Units has 56 - 58 damage and that is too big for a starting units if you ask me at least make their attack speed lower.
-3rd person is good but dont you think that it will be hard for melee?
-Creeps are so strong! Creeps near at each Races' base are strong... Bandit Lord is strong and due to the fact, it can cast Divine Shield.

[] Suggestions:
-Improve some of the parts in your terrain! use raise/lower tools to make different levels in the ground, fill the mepty areas in the game with more doodads, remove those incorrectly putted doodads
-Either lower down the Sniper's damage or lower the attack speed of the Sniper.
-Dont put strong enemies near the bases of each races. Put them on wel-hidden area or at far areas.

Overall, this is quite a decent altered melee with good terrain, somehow balanced races and such. I would rate this 3/5 and +4 REP to you!

Voting also for Approval!

Sniper has a 2 second cool down. Its supposed to be like a real sniper. 3rd person camera is tricky, part of the skill will be learning when to use it and when to turn it off. Thanks for the approval and all the great comments from everyone! Hell_Master, should I tweak the terrain and update of leave this version alone now that its approved?

Binsu · May 24, 2013

Legal_Ease said:
Sniper has a 2 second cool down. Its supposed to be like a real sniper. 3rd person camera is tricky, part of the skill will be learning when to use it and when to turn it off. Thanks for the approval and all the great comments from everyone! Hell_Master, should I tweak the terrain and update of leave this version alone now that its approved?

Even its approved it still can be improved. :thumbs_up:

Legal_Ease · May 28, 2013

The fixes are in. See change-log for details.

IcemanBo · Sep 9, 2013

Wow, very cool altered melee map.
I've tested it and i enjoyed to discover the map with 3rd person view of my hero. And nice new races you've created there.
Good job :wink:

KeyPitt · Sep 15, 2013

has this been released already? could you please give me a site in which i can download WC4...

Legal_Ease · Sep 16, 2013

WarCraft IV: Rise of the Races

raisen · Jun 11, 2015

Another good map w0w. niceeee

-	From the creator of Islands of Kalimdor...	-
	Now comes... Trailer: Parental Advisory Warning - May not be suitable of some viewers. The faint of heart, creeps and zombies may suffer horror and deep rooted fear while viewing the contents of this video. Terrain: Loading Screen: Screenshots: Graveyard: Farm: Dwarves posing for a group shot: Swamp: Shops: Icons: Overview: This Altered Melee Epic brings you into a haunted village where winter has ended and the spring thaw reminds the nations that its time for war. Join the Goblins, Gnolls, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Trolls as they battle to conquer the melting valley. New features are seamlessly blended for easy-to-learn adaptations to the standard RTS WarCraft III gameplay. The most important change is the Ability to Possess your units. Possession bring the players camera view down to the units level. While this makes movement more challenging, the units speed is boosted by 150. Possessing Heroes creates an even more substantial advantage. Heroes receive and attribute bonus to Agility and Strength when Possessed. Possessed Heroes will receive unique visual effects based on race, this allows other players to be able to identify the Possessed Hero so that they can counter or avoid slaughter. Each base comes with a gate system for defense. Harvesting Lumber can destroy the natural protection the trees offer. It may be wise to begin harvesting away from your main base. New shops that sell goods are strewn about the map. The items the shops sell correspond to the creeps guarding them. For example the Crypt (found in the Cemeteries) sells items and units of an undead variety. The Medicine Shop sells Potions and the Wizards Emporium Sells only Scrolls. Almost every creep will drop and item upon Death. Even the Deer can be hunted for meat. Dropped items correspond with their owner's traits. When a creep is killed a zombie will be raised later and roam the map. Zombies do heavy damage when they wander into town but also have little health. Some Melee units have sharpened weapons and will draw blood from their opponent with each strike (this is purely for cinematic effect). All ranged units have projectile homing disabled so you can dodge enemy spears and bolts. Possessed heroes can learn never-seen-before Micro techniques as they dart through the battlefield. The Traitor's Pub let's you hire workers from all custom races to build whatever your enemies can build. Also, hire the Necromancer who has a Pocket Graveyard that brings 10 skeleton warriors to life over 50 seconds. Features: Hero Selection Dialogue intro Added items models Five Custom Races Gate System New original Icons Balanced, race-specific shop items Possession - 3rd Person Camera System Added Blood effects Artificial Intelligence (AI) for each race. Terrain modeled after New England Farm country Weather effects enhance regions Tons of new Easy-to-Use custom Spells Balanced Races with new Strengths and Weaknesses Roaming Zombies Roaming pigs (which produce food like farms) More blood and cannibalism than Blizzard ever dreamed As many custom models as a map can hold Epic Terrain Slow Motion Hero Kills THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT III THIS IS WARCRAFT V - White River Valley Credits: Without these designers this map would not have been made possible: Specail thanks to Drogenhoernchen for his advise, inspiration, map testing, help with triggers, Scout Flare, Bandit weapon switching ability and (custom Dwarf) healing spell. Models: DwarvenMountaineer by Norinrad Dwarven axe thrower by Frankster DwarfCrane by Ket DwarfMage (Cleric) by Sellenisko VikingLongHouse by olofmoleman Cathedral by takakenji BasicHouse (dwarf) by Ergius WorgenManor by Sellenisko Hero Geomancer by Tranquil Tower by unknownczar Goblin Brawler by Rizz_Boomer Goblin_Cyberslayer by Vermillion Edict GoblinAdventurer by Deolrin Goblin Sniper by WILL THE ALMIGHTY FlyingMachine by Gyrosphinx Goblin Base (AmmoDump) by Ultimata Temple of Boom (mill) and Junkyard by donut3.5 Goblin Alter and Barracks by Burning_Dragoon5 Goblin Steamroller and Junkyard also by donut3.5 goblin airfield by RightField mag'har (Troll) barraks by forgotten_warlord Jungle Troll - Altar of Blood by Deolrin Troll Enforcer by Lord_T Trollmage by Nasrudin Troll trapper, Shaman, and preistess by Cavman Stone Troll Boarrider by Ket DarkTrollShadowMage (Firehunter) by Bart_Illidan DarkTrollWorker by takakenji Dark Troll Totemic by AnemicRoyalty Troll Enforcer by Lord_T Primal Torntusk by Cavman TrollManticoreRider by Uncle Fester Beast Pit by Callahan Troll Barracks by Ultimata ENTIRE Gnoll Pack Created by Mephestrial BloodElfValkyrie by Uncle Fester HorsebackArcher by kaycei Skins: BloodElfSentry and Warden by 67chrome CheetahRider (Huntres) by GreyArchon Scarlet Crusader by CloudWolf Goblin User Interface by MiniMage and CRAZYRUSSIAN SpellBook by Mr. Goblin Custom Cursor by dab Icons: Blood Elf (Red) - LumberMill, Blacksmith, Aviary, Sanctum, Alter of Blood, Huntress/Naisha, all created/modified by Legal_Ease Warden and Shardis (enchantress) by 67chrome Brawler by Rizz_Bommer BTNMountaineer by Norinrad BTNDwarven axe thrower by Frankster BTNDwarfCrane by Ket BTNGoblinAgent by Huinipachutli BTNCRflyingchairGOBLIN by CRAZYRUSSIAN BTNGoblinFemale by Kuhneghetz BTNBloodelvenWarrior by Frankster BTNGoblinWarZeppelin by ikillforeyou BTNCyberSlayer by Archangel_Tidusx BTNClockwerkGiant by The Weird Human BTNSkyRockets by Narandza ATCWrench by Mr. Goblin BTNLionsShieldOfCourage by JollyD BTNGoblinHeroAviator by Marcos DAB AI: Blood Elf AI by Wa666r Others by Legal_Ease Acknowlegdements: Special Thanks to Blizzard, Hiveworkshop.com and Wc3c.net for providing the software, tutorials and forums for sharing all of these creations. Map, other Custom Icons, Spells, AI and Triggers created by Legal_Ease Honorable mention to Umm_ aka BuckDharma for teaching me how to mass hard and pwn noobs. Summary for each Race's Unit Tech-Tree: KEY: Unit - what the unit builds / (prerequisites) / and whatever else it can build. Blood Elves Arcane Hall - High Elf Worker / Mistress High Elf Worker - farm / alter / BE Barracks / Saw Mill / Forge / Arcane Tower / Magic Vault / BE Tower / (teir 2) Arcane Sanctuary / (tier 3) Arcane Aviary Mistress - Blood Wisp Blood Wisp - BLood Elf Protector / Barrow Den / Blood Well / (tier 2) BE Workshop Barracks - Swordsmen / (forge) Commander / (tier 2) Dragon Hawk (campaign) Arcane Sanctuary - BE Lieut / Sorceress / SpellBreaker Barrow Den - Page / Archer / Huntress / Sentry Workshop - Glaive Launcher / (tier 3) Ark Arcane Aviary - Priestess of the Falcon Goblins Hall - werker Werker - Hut / Alter of Boom / Chipping Mill / Training Center / shop / Cannon Tower (tier 2) Junkyard / Hanger / (tier 3) Factory Training Center - sniper / sapper / (tier 2) medic / (tier 3) Spy Junkyard - Spikewerks Bot / Warbot / Shredder / (tier 3) Blaster Hanger - Flying Machine - Goblin Zepplin - (tier 3) War Zeplin Factory - Heavy Goblin Tank / Crane Crane - Towers Dwarves Hall - Tradesman Tradesman - Alter / House / Vault / Armory / Lumber Mill / Blacksmith / Tower /(tier 2) Cathedral / (tier 3) Training Fortress Armory - Guard / Defender / (blacksmith) AxeThrower Backsmith - Rifleman / (tier 2) Mortar team Cathedral - Monk / Lost Emissary / Chaplin Training Fortress - Gryphon / Dwarven Knight (pony rider) Trolls Hall - peon Peon - fire pit / alter / barracks / voodoo shop / warmill / Fire Tower (tier 2) Spirit Lodge / Beastiary / (tier 3) Manticore Pit Barracks - Plunderer / Trapper / (warmill) Head Hunter / (tier 2) demolisher Beastiary - Boar / Batridder / Boarrider / Troll Kodo / Spirit Lodge - Stormslayer / Witch Doctor / Ice Troll High Prest Manticore Pit - Manticore Ridder Gnolls Hall - Runt Runt - Hut / ALter of Fangs / Kennel / Lumber MIll / Den of Relics (lumbermill) Fort / (tier 2) Pound / Spirit Groove / (tier 3) Boneyard Kennel - Brute / (lumbermill) poacher / (tier 2) Slasher Pound - Eagleridder / Boarridder / Meat Wagon Spirit Groove - Pack Mage / Mystreaver Boneyard - Stonebreaker First Update: Fixed down arrow bug so that Hero Bonus can no longer be abused by spamming down arrow. Magic Sparrow can now fly like the wind. Dwarf Guard spears no longer envenomed. Second Update: Added more Terrain texture, green creep camps near bases, lighting doodads and turned shops to face center of the map.

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