River Valley 0.3

[Svetli]

Congratulations! A clearly great melee map!

 

[WolfFarkas]

nice map, very interesting, I think you did a great work

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I think the goblin shipyard should be guarded in a standard way, as you do, you can buy and ignore the creeps

maybe the red creeps camps can guard fountains or marketplace.

Neutrals, creeps, loot, enviroment, all seems ok

I rate a 4/5 (I wish to see others reviews or the mod review to consider my final rate)

 

[MysteryMaze]

It was you! It's been a while.

This is probably one of few competitive maps and I like your idea of trying new things( Can't wait to see how they will play ).
Compared to the ones you've previously made, this one has much more attention to detail in the overall landscape.

If I were you, I would place lv2 murloc at the shipyard area so as to prevent hire-and-run-away tactic.


An elaborate map, good luck on you!

 

[ysuk9127]

nice map, very interesting, I think you did a great work

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I think the goblin shipyard should be guarded in a standard way, as you do, you can buy and ignore the creeps

maybe the red creeps camps can guard fountains or marketplace.

Neutrals, creeps, loot, enviroment, all seems ok

I rate a 4/5 (I wish to see others reviews or the mod review to consider my final rate)

Thank you for your comment! But I'm not sure if I can still fix any detail once it is submitted as a final.

Let me just explain in detail why I set the shipyard next to the murlocs.

I also tried yours before I placed those like that, but murlocs reacted to units when passed by.

There were some solutions. One is what I did. Second was to add more doodads to prevent murlocs from reacting. Third was to move shipyard and Murlocs backward.

Second solution was not good in terms of the distance between the starting points. When I added more doodads, It took more than 1 seconds than before.

Third one was also disregarded since moved shipyards require players to waste their time and path to but a transport.

Transport is rarely be seen in melee. Players not even hire Zeppelin all the time. As a transport has lesser value than Zeppelin with regard to utilization, it has to offer something definite advantages with ease of use like hiring.

Therefore, I chose the first solution for those reasons. But I will consider if there's any way to adopt your idea in good way.

Thanks again.

 

[WolfFarkas]

An user, I wont say his name, updated his work and it was a map for the contest. Sometimes a bug is missed and detected in reviews.
But ask the mod of the contest if you doubt

 

[ysuk9127]

It was you! It's been a while.

This is probably one of few competitive maps and I like your idea of trying new things( Can't wait to see how they will play ).
Compared to the ones you've previously made, this one has much more attention to detail in the overall landscape.

If I were you, I would place lv2 murloc at the shipyard area so as to prevent hire-and-run-away tactic.


An elaborate map, good luck on you!

Hello! Yes it's me haha. How have you been? I read the post at war3.kr that you will have dormant period.

Well, the reasons that I did not put lv2 Murloc are:
1. Ease of use. Players should hire a transport without risk. I explained it at my reply above.
2. This map only has two horizontal pathways at north and south. When you think of games by Human with one of other races, let's say Orc, Orc has to seek if there are any independent creeping happening by footmen or Militia. If grunt get trapped by a murloc while footmen are on creeping, the game would be tough for the Orc.
3. Too many green creep areas. I had to make the total lv of creeps at this position for balance.

But thank you anyway for your comment. Good luck on you too!

 

[MysteryMaze]

Hello! Yes it's me haha. How have you been? I read the post at war3.kr that you will have dormant period.

Well, the reasons that I did not put lv2 Murloc are:
1. Ease of use. Players should hire a transport without risk. I explained it at my reply above.
2. This map only has two horizontal pathways at north and south. When you think of games by Human with one of other races, let's say Orc, Orc has to seek if there are any independent creeping happening by footmen or Militia. If grunt get trapped by a murloc while footmen are on creeping, the game would be tough for the Orc.
3. Too many green creep areas. I had to make the total lv of creeps at this position for balance.

But thank you anyway for your comment. Good luck on you too!

I've been good

Each of the reasons are convincing. I learn from you hehe.


Nice map, and thanks for cheering me.

Mine is about to be finished!

 

[deepstrasz]

Usually melee filenames are written as (2)River Valley.w3x.
Username and map author is no the same.

Honestly the shipyards don't serve any purpose when there are Way Gates and there's no other water path other than a perpendicular line from a shipyard to the other (basically the same line as the Way Gates). Either make some water paths to reach the main/starting bases or just change the shipyards with another neutral building and/or place another neutral camp there.

Awaiting Update.

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[ysuk9127]

Usually melee filenames are written as (2)River Valley.w3x.
Username and map author is no the same.

Honestly the shipyards don't serve any purpose when there are Way Gates and there's no other water path other than a perpendicular line from a shipyard to the other (basically the same line as the Way Gates). Either make some water paths to reach the main/starting bases or just change the shipyards with another neutral building and/or place another neutral camp there.

Awaiting Update.

======================================================

Always check/recheck the Map Submission Rules! (Map Submission Rules)

These will help make a better description:

Map description threads

Description Guide - Melee Maps
Description Guide - Maps
Map Description - Templates
Melee Map Description Generator v1.3
Map Description Generator [1.2]
BB Codes | HIVE

A detailed changelog in the first post would be helpful to reviewers and notify fans about the newest implementations to your map.

If you want more reviews, come here:
The Grand Review Exchange!

Thank you for that you pointed out my mistake. Yes I will definitely change the author. But let me know if it will be okay to put the author name as "ysuk9127(ethanys)". I am currently using ethanys as an id more. (e.g. discord)

Yes I totally agree with your comment. That is what I have considered too. I am still thinking to improve my map with that so I will make some updates if I can.

 

[deepstrasz]

But let me know if it will be okay to put the author name as "ysuk9127(ethanys)"

OK.

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EDIT:
Approved.