What will be after death?

[The_wand_mirror]

Religious people say they know? or they believe they know?

What do you believe? Or what do you think?

Speak up..

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Nothing, just nothing.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Nothing, just nothing.

Yeah. But how the hell will that feel?

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

It will feel nothing... If it's nothing, it is quite plainly nothing.

 

[frostwhisper]

You lose all your senses and you are unable to move.
And you are not aware of anything, your mind is blank.
You do not dream, you just sleep without breathing.

...it sucks.

 

[Kitabatake]

Yeah once you're dead, your brain doesn't work and therefore you will not be able to think or feel anything anymore. Quite simple...

 

[DaedraEater]

Hopefully it will be a paradise!! With all the things a man/woman wants!! But its probably nothingness OR heaven, hopefully its a heaven of somesorts...

 

[Elenai]

Heaven for the saved, Hell for the damned...Thats what I believe.

 

[Sansui]

Well I think most of you mortals will fell nothing as in complete lack of any sensation at all. I HOWEVER will never die since I am immortal.

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Hell is for everyone who is Diabolist...

 

[TheDivineBoss]

You lose all your senses and you are unable to move.
And you are not aware of anything, your mind is blank.
You do not dream, you just sleep without breathing.

...it sucks.

Isn't that called Mind Lock or something?

Hmm, can't google it, it only shows a band named like that.

But I do know this: Mind Lock means that people can get a brain distortion which permanently locks up the mind from the rest of the body and world. You cannot talk, breath (or you can?), move or any other. Only think, ever felt like that, when people stare at you and you only can watch? You scream out so loud but no one will hear. Well, I didn't experienced it (yet).


Ok back to topic: There are many possiblities:

1) Heaven for the good, Hell for the bad.
2) You get reincarnated to like a butterfly.
3) There's nothing, your Soul will wander permanently around time and space.
4) Other dimension you will go to, either it's a cruel one or a good one.

Biblic Thingy

There are some clear and simple Bible statements we need to examine and reconcile:

1. God only has immortality (I Tim 6: 16)
2. There is a spirit in man (Job 32:8).
3. The spirit returns to God (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
4. The dead know nothing; the memory of them is lost (Ecclesiastes 9:5).
5. All in Christ shall be made alive (1 Corinthians 15:52).
6. They shall be made alive at the "last trump" (1 Corinthians 15:52).
7. The rest of the dead will live again at the end of the thousand years (Revelation 20:5).

And this may be usefull.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Probably nothing, but hopefully something. Heck even damnation in hell for all eternity would be better than nothing.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Nothing is after death.

No sould exits your body to float away, your brain stops working, your heart stops pumping and all your cells die. You don't somehow become a butterfly in the next life.

Though I'm hoping I'm wrong.

 

[Gilles]

Oooh, the famous question.

If you believe in Heaven and are wrong, what does it matter?
If you don't and it is real, you get to spend eternity in hell.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I prefer the reincarnation side. Though what kind of creature you'll become depends on what you have done in your life. If you are an evil person, you'll become a human. If you are a good person, you'll become your favourite animal.
Though you'll completely forget your old life.

*Just my theory*

 

[brad.dude03]

That sounds plausible.

And from what I understand, God will let everyone into Heaven (pending its existance) no matter what they believe, because he is merciful and loves everyone. Don't give me any of that ultra-conserve crap about if you're not baptised you go to hell.

When the priest came into my elementary school, he specifically stated that the Catholics believe that when you die, you will stand before God, and YOU will choose whether you deserve to go to heaven or hell. And no one better DARE do the typical bullshit "well i'd just go to heaven, fuck that". If you're standing in front of your creator, you are stripped bare, no defenses, nothing. You choose honestly based on how you lived your life, and only if you lived a life of worshipping Satan will you go to hell.

On my personal beliefs: I get to spend all eternity dining on/with the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

[Dr00d]

Who cares? You'll be dead.

 

[Elenai]

I will, fore I'll have everlasting life

 

[HINDYhat]

<3 the flying spaghetti monster.

 

[brad.dude03]

Pastafarianism: A Valid Alternative for Keeping Creationism out of Science Class.

 

[Technomancer]

4 Options I can see, although I'd prefer to believe in Heaven:

1: Good people go to heaven, Bad people go to heaven.
2: Reincarnation
3: Void/Nothing
4: Repeat life EXACTLY the same way it's going this time. You have already lived this life an infinite amount of times, and will continue to do so infinitely. The main problems with this one are that:
a) Everything has to be predetermined. Everything you do will always and has always happened.
b)It requires time to continue in a distorted cycle over and over and over. Every second, what has happened and what is going to happen, is already happening, varied time-wise each by an infinitesimally small duration, infinitely in both directions.
c)It's bat bat bat bat shit insane.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Pastafarianism: A Valid Alternative for Keeping Creationism out of Science Class.

Ooh, what does Pastafarianism say about death?

 

[Xatoga]

Giant beer-volcanoes and stripper factories, I believe. Great kind of place.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Screw heaven, GO STRIPPER FACTORIES!

 

[Gilles]

That sounds plausible.

And from what I understand, God will let everyone into Heaven (pending its existance) no matter what they believe, because he is merciful and loves everyone. Don't give me any of that ultra-conserve crap about if you're not baptised you go to hell.

When the priest came into my elementary school, he specifically stated that the Catholics believe that when you die, you will stand before God, and YOU will choose whether you deserve to go to heaven or hell. And no one better DARE do the typical bullshit "well i'd just go to heaven, fuck that". If you're standing in front of your creator, you are stripped bare, no defenses, nothing. You choose honestly based on how you lived your life, and only if you lived a life of worshipping Satan will you go to hell.

On my personal beliefs: I get to spend all eternity dining on/with the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Bang on. Although if you live a life full of mortal sin, you are in fact worshiping Satan.

Also I was thinking about reincarnation. Christians, if they live as we are supposed to, will do well if reincarnation is true.

 

[Redeemer59]

I believe every living thing has a "soul" that is absolutely true neutral in every possible aspect of existence, thus the concepts of good and evil are totally moot to me. But I believe in reincarnation, when you die, you essentially become some random life form, be it a gnat or a human. Of course, new body means new brain, new brain means no memories from the previous life.

tl;dr, when you die, you come back as whatever thing happens to have been born at the moment you died.

But I don't believe that any kind of deity worthy of our worship would let anybody go to hell, whether you were the Pope or Hitler. No, I'm not saying Hitler was a saint, or anything like that, but, eternity is a long, long time... hence purgatory. However, once more, I don't believe in an intelligent deity, I just think if there was one who wasn't malevolent, and was as kind and caring as everybody says he is, this is what would happen.

 

[Shados]

Depends on the nature of the mind. If it's purely physical, purely the brain, then nothing. If it's something more than physical, then I have no idea.

Obviously I'm hoping for the mind being more than physical (It seems logical to me that it is, given the nature of my mind), because nothingness would suck. At least, it would if I were capable of acknowledging it's shitiness. I like existence.

-*meow*

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Oooh, the famous question.

If you believe in Heaven and are wrong, what does it matter?
If you don't and it is real, you get to spend eternity in hell.

This cliched argument is second only to "can you prove god doesn't exist?"

Don't you care that you're going to hell in a million other religions/cults/fairy tales? Time to break out the tarot cards and dog blood!

It's a matter of credibility.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

I also believe every creature has a soul. When you die it goes to space and gets 'queued' for letting you reincarnate, but this wont mean you reincarnate as a human. You just would maybe be reincarnated as a alien being on another planet but you won't know you've been human once.. As for your charachter.. you will be totaly the opposite of your former self.. You've been very good to people around you and always valued live and others opinions? Then you will be reincarnated as an evil and not caring person.

Though i don't know exactly what i should believe how i believe it all works. Because im not quite sure HOW it works.

 

[SuPa-]

Here's what death will be like...

SYNTAX ERROR?!?!?!

Death can't be like anything, because death is nothing. This concept people don't except, because it just doesn't seem right. It's like falling asleep and then waking up when it feels like only a second later, but it's really morning. Picture that but you not waking up. That's what I think, anyway.

Either that or a nice seat in Hell, which seems pretty nice

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Ok, who's going to try to find out what's after death? Someone?

I hope there are females in Heaven.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Ok, who's going to try to find out what's after death? Someone?

I hope there are females in Heaven.

I am especially anti-heaven because; why the fuck would you be sent to heaven when you have a 'good' life? does this benefit 'god'? Why would you go to heaven if you die? is death a good thing then? you're being rewarded for dying? that is just bullshit lol. Maybe there rly is nothing at the end.. just nothing.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Wand, maybe Heaven is a evil place and Hell is paradise. How about that? Let's discuss about the REAL Heaven and Hell.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Wand, maybe Heaven is a evil place and Hell is paradise. How about that? Let's discuss about the REAL Heaven and Hell.

Heaven on earth, hell in death.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

But that still doesn't help the subject. I still believe I'll arrive in a stuffed-with-women Heaven domain.

 

[LiOneSS]

Heaven for the saved, Hell for the damned...Thats what I believe.

you say it. ˘^î agree!
(this is kinda for medivh's tower?)

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Ok, you got me in. But if that one doesn't work, I'm in Heaven if you need me.

Off-Topic: Nope, since I arrived.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Actually i asked what YOU believe.. and NOT what any 'holy books' TELL you.

but if you really want to stick to that .. fine..

 

[Elenai]

Indeed I do...Fore heaven is not a reward, it is not something you earn. It is a gift given by a graceful God, who does not want to send someone to Hell, but being a Just God must do what must be done.

A judge might not want to send a person to prison, but when he has broken the law, he must be punished. So he gives a pardon, and if the person accepts it, he is free...if he doesnt...to prison he goes.

Thats what I believe, because I believe it makes the most sense.

 

[brad.dude03]

And in terms of the void. Let's say that there is nothing after death.

If that was the case, it'd be fine. It'd be like going to sleep and never waking up again. You wouldn't be able to acknowledge your existance, so it wouldn't be like you were conscious in the void, you'd just stop existing, and that would be that.

 

[Gilles]

I am especially anti-heaven because; why the fuck would you be sent to heaven when you have a 'good' life? does this benefit 'god'? Why would you go to heaven if you die? is death a good thing then? you're being rewarded for dying? that is just bullshit lol. Maybe there rly is nothing at the end.. just nothing.

So why not just act on impulse. I'm going to start doing drugs, there are no consequences. Why do Humans strive to do good if there is no heaven?

 

[brad.dude03]

Because, like me, we feel that we're morally obligated to do so.

I don't care whether I get any reward for a positive moral attitude, I just think that it's right for me to act this way, so I do. The same applies for anyone else. 'Free' people act the way they think they should act. They say, i'm going to do this, because I think I should, I really think this is the right thing for me to do in a situation like this. It's things like religion that change things to "I think I should act like this, but such and such dictates that I should act like this, so I should listen to the words of such and such if I want to get into afterlife #43291. It depends on what you see as right and wrong.

Think about it. Someone that you think is a complete monster could truly believe that they are doing the right thing. Take Mad Old Stalin for example. He was clearly insane, and clearly a monster, butchering 40 million of his own people. But, through this entire time, he was convinced that we was doing good, and that they purgings were for the good of the people.

It's all about right and wrong. What you see as right, the next man could see as wrong, and I think that you should act on what you feel is right, not what other people tell you is right.

 

[Elenai]

Or...simply do the right thing that is already built into the nature of the universe.

IE: The Golden Rule.

Here is one of my favorite vids involving the golden rule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD5BNTcJuc

 

[Voidwalker]

The Golden Rule, huh. The pinnacle of utilitarism. Yeah, I've heard of it.

I personally believe there's got to be an alternate dimension where your soul dwells after death. It can be a hellish one or a heavenly one, but there's another dimension for the dead. This universe has enough room for both the dead and the living. And perhaps some undead guy here and there...

 

[Hakeem]

If you believe in Heaven and are wrong, what does it matter?
If you don't and it is real, you get to spend eternity in hell.

Not all religions say that you need to believe in order to get there.

Who cares? You'll be dead.

Everybody. Even you, and you know it.

I believe every living thing has a "soul" that is absolutely true neutral in every possible aspect of existence, thus the concepts of good and evil are totally moot to me.

But I don't believe that any kind of deity worthy of our worship would let anybody go to hell, whether you were the Pope or Hitler. No, I'm not saying Hitler was a saint, or anything like that, but, eternity is a long, long time... hence purgatory. However, once more, I don't believe in an intelligent deity, I just think if there was one who wasn't malevolent, and was as kind and caring as everybody says he is, this is what would happen.

I believe every living thing has a "soul" that is absolutely true neutral in every possible aspect of existence, thus the concepts of good and evil are totally moot to me.

Hmm...

Don't you care that you're going to hell in a million other religions/cults/fairy tales? Time to break out the tarot cards and dog blood!

Not all religions say you need to be that religion or go to hell. And don't reply unless you find some statistics about this.


I think it's funny how so many people answer this question.
Nobody knows. Even saying "nothing" is a belief.
How about we find out when we die?
Since nobody comes back, we don't know.
Nobody can know, and nobody can say any result is any more likely than any other result. Unless you've figured out how the mind works, and I do mean mind, not brain.

You could say the suspense is killing us, but then you'd face a fine from the bad pun police.

 

[Redeemer59]

So, we're not allowed to have an opinion because nobody will ever know the true answer?

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

So why not just act on impulse. I'm going to start doing drugs, there are no consequences. Why do Humans strive to do good if there is no heaven?

Because we do. We're born with at least empathy for the fellow man to some extent.

Here's an idea: Isn't it a little materialistic to do good just to go to paradise? I'd rather do good just for the sake of doing good, kthx.

Not all religions say you need to be that religion or go to hell. And don't reply unless you find some statistics about this.

DOESN'T. MATTER.

I'll make a religion right now saying that if you don't eat 300 bags of mudcakes in 5 minutes, you're going to get fiery pokers up your ass. And you can't be of any other religion, or else the only women you'll see in your afterlife are transvestites.

How credible am I? Do you think you should join my religion, just to play it safe? The fact that one would even consider doing something for the sole purpose of playing it safe is idiotic. Good example: CHAIN MAIL.

I think it's funny how so many people answer this question.
Nobody knows. Even saying "nothing" is a belief.
How about we find out when we die?
Since nobody comes back, we don't know.
Nobody can know, and nobody can say any result is any more likely than any other result. Unless you've figured out how the mind works

Logically speaking, anything can be possible. The very linings of logic itself could be being controlled by pandas. We can only assume everything is what it is to some extent, and question our reality on a smaller scale.

and I do mean mind, not brain.

I'd ask you how you don't know they are not one and the same, but then we'd have to go into a lengthy debate about one's identity, which is most certainly one of the most useless things to ponder about, because it's got to be one of the most concrete unknowns to ever cross the mind.

You could say the suspense is killing us, but then you'd face a fine from the bad pun police.

There are no good puns to begin with

 

[Hakeem]

So, we're not allowed to have an opinion because nobody will ever know the true answer?

No living person will.
"Did you hear about that guy accused of murder?"
"No, that sentence is the first I've heard, but he should get the death sentence."
"But you know nothing about it."
"I have to have an opinion about everything, even stuff I know nothing about."
"You're an idiot."

There are no good puns to begin with

Good ones are very, very, rare. It takes a whole lot of skill to make good ones.
And I do mean a whole lot of skill.

 

[brad.dude03]

The way I hear it though, with Christianity, you don't have to believe to get to Heaven, and you wont go to Hell for not believing. Unlike the painted picture, where God is wrathful to the non-believers, I've learned, throughout my Catholic Education, that God really doesn't give a damn who you are, what you're life was like, or whether you believe in him or not, but instead loves everyone. Like a blind man who can't tell his wife apart from his 4 sisters.