Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[Zaljinzoo]

Well I was trying to follow Orly_Yarlys guidelines, well I guess it's time for a whole new upgrade concept!

Wild Reinforcement: Gives the Bone Crusher a cleave attack by upgrading his weapon with Boar tusks, also allows the construction of the Livestock Pit(New beast cave) which allows the training of War Boars and Edge Ram

Bigger Better Boulders: Requires Crush and Lash of the Gronn(just to add a challenge and so they don't get this early game, could be changed/removed) with the Maulers and the workers getting stronger the Stone Throwers decide it's time they make an improvement as well, training to become even stronger to hurl larger rocks upgrading them to siege units and giving them more damage (?) but decreasing their range


ORCS!

By the Ancestors(Not available after Bloodpact): Changes Orcs to permanent Mag'hari, replacing Necrolytes with Runemasters and Warlocks with Seers

Mannoroth's Offer: Changes the orcs to Bloodpact, replacing Pyremaster with Felsworn and Shaman with Death Knight

Consumed in Fire: Pyre Masters/Felsworn gain an increase to damage and a slight attack speed upgrade

((Heroes remain the same btw ))

 

[Tarfen]

Not sure if its down to be edited, or if it is an accident but at the website the "Lore of Draenor" link doesn't work, its there but you cant click on it? am i just an idiot and didnt read something or is it an accident??

 

[AIagremm]

No, its just a misunderstanding ^^
Page Lore of Draenor doesnt exist, you just put your cursor on it and it shows you a menu from where you can check out races, history and geography

Warchief_Grom, there are no updates in any of Warcraft's that allow you to build a structure, so we dont need that.

Also, I think you werent there when this was annaounced but the Bloodpact ability is no longer in existance, you just have two ways of advancing, one where you remain shamanistic and one where you go over to the dark side. However it actually only affects upgrades and caster units.

Mannoroth's Offer is also lore incorrect, since Death Knights were created from Necrolyte's souls and human bodies. Felsworn will be a campiagn unit.

 

[Zaljinzoo]

Ah ok, I'll think of something, and Mannoroth's Offer is what I called the bloodpact thing and blood pact Horde had dks so I kinda skipped ahead in time without thinking :/

 

[AIagremm]

Well it happened only after the First Horde... and slaughtering of the Shadow Council. And in FoD it rises and is in its full potential!

 

[arthas_king]

This post reminds me of the Power of the FoD!

 

[Cthulus]

Oh yeeeees, good times. Al, that was one of one your many warcraft songs!

 

[AIagremm]

Yes it was, like Draenei Paradise.

But lets return on-topic.

 

[Evure]

I had an idea about flying mounts but then i heard about that there will be none , but still I'm going to say : Arakkoa should get the hawks from Nagrand, Draenei should get Sporebats, Orcs Chimeras of Shadowmoon Valey or from Blades Edge, Ogres should have some Mages that can fly with it spells... but since there will be no flying units, then this idea is wasted...

 

[Cthulus]

Speaking of flying units, will there be any aquatic/naval units in FoD?

 

[arthas_king]

Like transportation turtles and stuff?

 

[AIagremm]

Only creeps. I would simply love to involve naval battles, but there werent any before the Invasion of Draenor.

As for transportation... I was thinking that there will be primitive boats available in some missions and even in melee maps. Most likely some simple arakkoa shipyards where they build boats, because they are the only race that I know which uses ships in Draenor. Orcs have boats too, but mostly for fishing, though some must have been used for war. Ogres and draenei however never built boats.

 

[Orly_YaRly]

well, we could give boats for arakkoa if they research it as on of their upgrades (they have tons of upgrades) and for orcs too, but orcs ships would work like move-able water farms

 

[arthas_king]

Why don't you add some ''Fish School'' Unit, that when an Orc boat goes nearby, they will gain gold (Fishing).

 

[Orly_YaRly]

ye, something like that

 

[AIagremm]

So two races will have naval units and two wont? -.-

Sorry, but thats just dumb. Plus whats the point in making gold fish? That will ruin Warcraft spirit, because this aint no custom map or Civilization rip-off.

 

[Cavman]

So two races will have naval units and two wont? -.-

Sorry, but thats just dumb. Plus whats the point in making gold fish? That will ruin Warcraft spirit, because this aint no custom map or Civilization rip-off.

The Naval units could be campaign only units, like most of the naval ones in the TFT campaign. Draenai and Arakkoa boats could be cool looking and fun to make. And maybe give the Orcs a cannoe for shiggles.

 

[dab]

Alagremm is right, there shouldn't be any in-balances. And hey, I'm back!

 

[Cthulus]

Good to have you back!
Yeah, I think Cavman's idea is pretty good. Plus, it might even open up opportunities to have a neutral shipyard in melee mode.

 

[AIagremm]

Hurray! Dab is back!

Cavman, thats what Im talking about. They should be as arakkoa flying units campaign-only.

I would love to make draenei boats, but they just have never used boats, so we dont know how may their ships look. Plus we dont need them in campagn.

But some sort of a big boat for transport in melees is needed

 

[dab]

Hurray! Dab is back!

Cavman, thats what Im talking about. They should be as arakkoa flying units campaign-only.

I would love to make draenei boats, but they just have never used boats, so we dont know how may their ships look. Plus we dont need them in campagn.

But some sort of a big boat for transport in melees is needed

Now, I'm not much for the idea about having boats in the first place, but you could do a draenei crystal ship, that being a floating ship, which would only work over water(?), as the draeneis obviousely have the technology and the biological knowledge to create such ships

 

[AIagremm]

Not really. All those ships were made by Naaru, though they could have some of that tech.

 

[takakenji]

thats not really tech, more of magic

btw, sorry for the inactivity, i was really busy and then i had vacation right after, and i still am (on my laptop)

 

[AIagremm]

Well yeah >>
Though personally I just hate Tempest keep and Exodar, they look too technological. Now Oshu'gun, thats a dimensional magical ship! In concepts I even had a small flying crystal ship as draenei flying unit.

 

[dexm]

Me too I hate kael and fel bloods they're just a way for blizzard to expand the demon race.Tempest keep is just a copy of the exodar and the exodar is a copy of s..th

 

[JokeMaster]

Yeah its kinda weird.
I was playing today basketball with ma frien and we thought what would be if...
Blizzard would give as a playable race ogres. What do ya think what would be their mount?
I'm going to use the ideas to make an ogre rider.

 

[deepstrasz]

Oh yeeeees, good times. Al, that was one of one your many warcraft songs!

What's this about ?

 

[Orly_YaRly]

is it even possible for ogres to ride something? Maybe gronns.....rofl.
Maybe some really big felboar, thats all i can think of.

 

[Zaljinzoo]

I once had a concept for a mounted ogre unit, this is what I got


Ogre Bull Rider
Very strong siege unit but with little armor and not as fast as most other mounted units, can learn Charge and War Stomp

 

[takakenji]

Me too I hate kael and fel bloods they're just a way for blizzard to expand the demon race.Tempest keep is just a copy of the exodar and the exodar is a copy of s..th

because tempest keep IS part of the exodar, it is just like the exodar and the draenei had it then the blood elves took it over but the draenei had already left on the exodar, i forgot the exact story.

 

[Linaze]

Since Ogres are about the same size as Taurens, a Kodo mount would be an obvious choice. However, seeing how there are no Kodos on Draenor, you'll need to look at Nagrand, and more specifically, the Clefthoofs that live there.

 

[Cthulus]

Makes sense to me.
Don't we already have some sort of mounted Ogre unit though?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, I agree with Linaze, Chefthoofs are the best for them.
Though some sort of a giant boar would fit even better.

 

[supertoinkz]

Salamanders anyone?

 

[Orly_YaRly]

Salamanders are used mostly as the mounts of Broken, smaller ones as their pets.

 

[AIagremm]

Salamanders will be a draenei unit, tamed by Broken. They will also be creeps.

 

[JokeMaster]

Lulz i didn't knew that people have such many ideas.

 

[AIagremm]

Speaking of ideas, Orly_Yarly, when will you make finalized techtree presentation?

 

[dead-man-walking]

Lulz i didn't knew that people have such many ideas.

People can get Ideas everywhere. And a Reader's Digest survey shows that the bathroom is the best place for Ideas.

Also, Al, any Info of Progress in percentage?

 

[AIagremm]

Percentage is kinda hard to make so far. But because we finished the techtree and campaign script, plus most of the UIs are either made or being done...

 

[deepstrasz]

Yeah, I agree with Linaze, Chefthoofs are the best for them.
Though some sort of a giant boar would fit even better.

A mutated boar A big reddish one. And know that boars are really fast.
Let's say that they were created using some sort of plants or some strange creep meat. The ogres someday found that their boars grow like "titans" . And so they accidentally (knowing they're not very bright) made a new breed.

 

[JokeMaster]

People can get Ideas everywhere. And a Reader's Digest survey shows that the bathroom is the best place for Ideas.

Also, Al, any Info of Progress in percentage?

I agree a bathroom is the best place to think.

 

[AIagremm]

I agree a bathroom is the best place to think.

This is awkward...

 

[Orly_YaRly]

actually, i got most of the ideas in bathroom, really, you should try it sometimes

 

[AIagremm]

Okay, lets get back on topic.

 

[Orly_YaRly]

Well, now you are asking me for the finalized techtrees. I think that 15 private messeges of the discussion is enough? We finalized those techtrees remember?

 

[AIagremm]

Yes, I meant presentation of it. You know, like pictures showing it?

 

[mattplaz]

i just wanna know when this mod will be done. i saw a lot of ppl posting stuff about it, so is it gonna be done soon?

 

[Ryaku]

They said end of summer.

 

[Vosty]

They said end of summer.

No. They said MAYBE BETA at end of summer.
MAYBE.
MAYBE.
NOT FULL. BETA.
MAYBE.

See this?