Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[dead-man-walking]

Yeah but this doesn't imply originality. Players would definitely enjoy something new.

Players would also enjoy familiar things. You can't be so original these days.

 

[dexm]

Amen brother.

 

[Orly_YaRly]

so, where is the progress?

 

[Ryaku]

If it comes out please send me the link, i want to play it

 

[arthas_king]

I doupt it will happen anytime soon.

 

[Orly_YaRly]

well, ala said there will be beta test ready at the end of the summer

 

[Ryaku]

Sweet, i got summer vacation already

 

[Ryaku]

Ok, i did go to the site of the map and i saw the models and i came to say, very nice work. keep going the nice work.

 

[Cthulus]

Please, don't double-post.
I'd have to say that the beta date is very iffy, Ryaku, don't get your hopes too high.

 

[Ryaku]

Where can i get the beta?


And sorry for the double posting

 

[Wolfe]

Did you not comprehend what Cthulus said? You cannot get the BETA yet, as this modification is still in heavy development. Though I'm sure a demo will soon be in our grasp.

 

[Cthulus]

Ryaku, I understand that you're eager for a beta, but I expect the earliest we can expect an open beta would be late summer. These guys are hard at work, but we're still in the earlier stages and to have the mod out so soon would just be ludicrous. Sorry 'bout that.

 

[JokeMaster]

Cthulus , you're kidding right? This summer? I would say an ALPHA version would be completed at the next easter...

 

[Orly_YaRly]

sorry JokeMaster, but theres a troll in your avatar and he is probably mind controling you to be trolling.
Give these people some hope!

 

[arthas_king]

Yeah seriously, act more mature and stop bashing new members.....

 

[Linaze]

Well JokeMaster is right. If you are so close to a Beta that it might be released late summer, then where are them gameplay screenshots?

 

[JokeMaster]

I am not bashing, or trolling...I just say the truth...And Liznane thanks, atleast this one time we share an opinion.
Btw its time to explain something:
A beta version it's a playable version(in this case of a map) wich has minor or major bugs but is still playable.
An alpha is a probably not playable , just existing map wich has some parts of the functions wich should be implemented.
I would say if you wanna play something till the end of the summer look for SOC it is not so far away from completion as FOD...

 

[AIagremm]

Yes, it seems that we will have to go with alpha. Arent Scars of Conflict closed? Oo

 

[arthas_king]

All teh good projects die, i hope this stays up 'till the end!

 

[Orly_YaRly]

well, we could use some screens to see if the project continue somehow. Like Terrain from Ala or some models.....

 

[Linaze]

Yes, it seems that we will have to go with alpha. Arent Scars of Conflict closed? Oo

Scars of Conflict is back. We, however, don't give people false hope by saying that we're almost done with a Beta. We're more realistic than that.

 

[AIagremm]

Oh, its great hat its back! ^^

Well first of all your project isnt as big as FoD, though still really great. Second, you have a pretty professional team, while I prefer to find people who are beginning. Plus you are a pretty experienced leader if I recall. Im an amateur in leadership and it is pretty important in a project.

 

[Zaljinzoo]

Hey Ala you didn't answer me :/, can I go back to concepts? As in spells, heroes and such?

 

[deepstrasz]

Hey Ala you didn't answer me :/, can I go back to concepts? As in spells, heroes and such?

They're not bad, try doing some ogres or anything related to FoD.

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. Try to start making concepts again, now for upgrades and spells.

 

[indomitable1319]

Need any more beginners there, Ala?

 

[Cthulus]

Scars of Conflict is back. We, however, don't give people false hope by saying that we're almost done with a Beta. We're more realistic than that.

Well excuse me for trying to keep people interested in something new, sir.
Yes, I know that the date is very far away from now, but it never bodes well to tell everybody that by the time you release even your open-beta, Starcraft II will be out, and so will everything else

Keeping optimistic, even if it's a little silly at times, can help, you know? People won't try as hard when they know that so few people expect a project to ever kick off. JokeMaster, yes, I understand what you mean as well, but again, things don't go as well when people are so intent on making things seem so... grim?

And now let's return to the main topic. As I said earlier, don't expect a beta to be released publicly for a very long time. If you.. *removed* had bothered to read my posts a little better, I said "the earliest we can expect", so the end of summer would probably still be far from release dates for open beta.
And Joke, we might be a really... friendly community, but maybe it's not such a good thing to basically advertise some other project, even one so great as SoC, here on another project's MapDev thread.
[Responding to this post with more argumentative replies or even more thinly-veiled insults will only make you seem more immature.]

 

[Deolrin]

Oh, so you lie to people that you're almost done, while in reality, the only work that has been done for this project so far is models. Smart, I guess?

 

[Cthulus]

I never said that we were almost done, Debode. I just said up there that I was just speaking with some hope when I said 'late summer'. Again, all the thinly-veiled insults are really not needed, guys. Go be an arsehole somewhere else, Debode, or at least pretend to return to discussing the main topic...

Forgive and forget.

 

[Kam]

Ok, time for a random person to interject: get on topic.

This mod looks promising, regardless of the effect that SC2 has on the community I'm sure you'll finish.

As much as I don't like drawing on XGM that Orc Barracks model is amazing.

 

[Cthulus]

Exactly what I said multiple times..
Which Barracks model are you referring to? I've seen one or two on XGM.

 

[JokeMaster]

I know that somew times i sound really pesimistic, but i am a realist , i say just the truth and truth can hurt you know?Kam has right those barracks are just awsome(if you don't look at the file size)
Cthulus , Debode you're also right but look at all the junk that we post. it's a spam topic we have no progress, no information, no SCREENS(Ala you know what i will do) come on move you'r asses and get to work(yes i should do it too).

Kam meant probably those http://xgm.ru/p/wc3/horde-barracks-of-war2times

 

[Cthulus]

Joke, you're right, but I only ask that I'm not smothered with shit-talk when I try to raise a point... ANYWAY, I remember that model It looks alright, but I personally think it's a little too over-pillared to go with even the dark nature of the Orcish Horde.
I honestly think it looks a little silly, but it's still a good model.

 

[Ryaku]

There arent too much pillars. Horde like to be dominant and powerfull so that picture would be great in game. Just mine suggestion, dont hate me

 

[JokeMaster]

Ryaku we are trying to make the horde before it's corruption , befor it was a big war machine. We are basing on WOW mag'har style. A weaker but more shamanistic orc style.

 

[deepstrasz]

I think they can resemble cherokee, aztecs or other American indian tribes. Meaning military isn't evolved but it exists as brave men trained to fight with metal and wood melee and ranged weapons. Their leaders the priests (or shamans in some tribes) have the ability of seeing the future, healing and maybe rank raising. Other tribes have chiefs which consist very much of powerful men capable to defeat all of it's tribe members (on row).

 

[MOMBI]

When will it be out!?

Guys when will it be out, i can nearly wait any more?

 

[Cthulus]

deepblade, the Orcish clans are nothing like the Aztecs. They were centered on building upwards, higher and higher, and looking at the stars. The Orcs, while I'm sure their shamans did some of that, are much more like the Native Americans.

MOMBI, this mod won't be out for a very, very long time. You'll have to be much more patient. These guys are working hard (I think), but it's not very kind to ask them to hurry so much

 

[Zaljinzoo]

Okay Ogre upgrade concepts so far

Defend Yourselves(Name not final xP): Turns the slave(That's the ogre worker right?) into axemen, light infantry that can still harvest and build

Enrage: Teaches the Brawler Enrage

Crush!: Gives Maulers the Crush attack

Brutal Ravager: Upgrades the Brutes to Ravagers, a medium melee soldier with the Ravage ability, can only be upgraded in tier 3, this will reduce having to get rid of lower units for food capacity and give the brutes a chance in late game

Ravage: The Ravager swipes both of his weapons, dealing massive damage and leaving a short bleed effect

Lash of the Gronn: Intimidating the slaves with the wrath of the gronn, the ogre leaders make the slaves harvest more with each trip

Blade's Edge: Bone Crushers receive a cleave effect, also allows the training of Raptors, from a new building you acquire from this upgrade called the Beast Cave, who are light units but cost very little(Make em like Ghouls/Zerglings XD)

 

[Orly_YaRly]

SEE ALA?!
Even this guy wants raptors!

 

[AIagremm]

Why the heck do you people want raptors?! D:
They dont fit ogres a bit! They dont fit anyone a bit!

Anyway, most of those upgrades are pretty nice. Keep working.

 

[Ryaku]

Hmm then how about... making Durotan and Drek'thar in game?
And Blackhand. I know that this sounds stupid because its before war but every Orcish Clan has an Warchief / Chieftain

 

[AIagremm]

Dude, they will be in campiagn!

 

[Ryaku]

SWEET!!!

Great job man!

 

[deepstrasz]

Cinematic

It would be awesome if we could find someone qualified to create movies (real kind of movies) placed between some chapters like in WarCraft.

 

[The World Is Flat]

A CGI modeler? Those people are few and far between.

 

[Zaljinzoo]

Dude raptors are awesome! XD, they live in Blade's Edge mountain so I thought that the upgrade called Blade's Edge would fit with them joining the ogres, besides the raptors what do ya think of the upgrades and abilities?

 

[Zaljinzoo]

Why the heck do you people want raptors?! D:
They dont fit ogres a bit! They dont fit anyone a bit!

Anyway, most of those upgrades are pretty nice. Keep working.

Raptors are epic man, also there are ogres in the Blade's Edge Mountains so I THOUGHT making them available with an upgrade called Blade's Edge would POSSIBLY make you happy, guess not so, reworked version

Blade's Edge: Give Bone Crushers the cleave attack and allows the building of the Beast Cave which trains (Hellboars, Wyverns, Bats, Giant Spiders or Scorpids, you pick)

 

[AIagremm]

Nah, this upgrade is unfitting unlike the other ones you made.

Raptors are part of that WoW idiotism similar to the one they did in Un'goro crater. I mean, come on! Dinosaurs in Warcraft? Thats idiotic! Its almost the same as putting dinosaurs in Lord of the Rings!

Oh and I would love to have CGI, like EoE has, but Kingbdogz has an amazing skill to attract people he needs...

 

[deepstrasz]

If raptors are in the WarCraft lore we could use them for a mount unit, but not for Ogres, they're too big for anything. If there are no ostriches for the ArakKoa, maybe we could use some raptors. It depends on geography too.