[Strategy / Risk] War of the Clans

[Argos]

The limit is not set exactly at 8 mb. I can show you some if my older maps on makemehost which are playable even as they close to 8,5.

 

[Yourself]

The limit is not set exactly at 8 mb. I can show you some if my older maps on makemehost which are playable even as they close to 8,5.

Interesting, whenever I try to host a game, it always kicks me out.

 

[Argos]

Which version are you trying to host?

 

[Yourself]

Which version are you trying to host?

Your fix9 version, so far, I had to host T8 just to test this map.

And I had to deal with leavers, en masse.

 

[brunner]

I'm not home right now I wount be for another 7 days otherwise I would test the map with you. I'm also waiting for the new testing version so I could try it out

 

[Strydhaizer]

Almost there...

I assure the terrain will be finished before the month ends. (Without distractions or problems, last week i lost my internet connection probably because of extreme temperature here in my place)
About the pathing blockers, i might not really be able to do it, so i'll give that responsibility to you . (I suck at placing pathing blockers)

 

[kakuzu]

Great work !

 

[Argos]

Cool man, don't worry about blockers I'll add them after

 

[Strydhaizer]

90%....
also a preview of stormhowl base.

most of the stuffs were already done last week

 

[Argos]

Hm interesting, you moved Stormhowl to the center? And the green base is bloodbane or?

 

[Strydhaizer]

Yes, the stormhowl is in the center because it is the only place that is still unoccupied.

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Bloodbane Base...
92%

 

[Argos]

Nice progress. Have you also thought about adding some landscape sight points? Like geysers or so?

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Keep it up, Stryder, it looks great.

 

[Strydhaizer]

So what's the plan after i finish the terrain?
Nothing to show right now, i might throw the last shots tomorrow, and offcoarse as what i promised, the terrain will be finished before the month ends so "probably" i may be able to send the complete map to you. I will surely miss this thread after

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For the progress update, it is now in 95%, what's left is the eastern side of the desert and grasslands and the Dreadfire's base (Still thinking of a unique base for this race though)
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Here i upload the base design of the Dreadfire, it is not yet final (I am going to add some fires to it offcoarse, probably torches will do)
And yes, it is small

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Probably the final layout

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Southeast part is done , yay!. We're now 96%.

Like geysers or so?

I honestly dont like the geysers but you can add them once i finish the terrain ))

 

[Argos]

It looks great. Dreadfire base doesnt look like a home of dark powers though. Maybe we could switch Bloodbane and Dreadire or something?

 

[Strydhaizer]

Your choice, im just a terrain maker

Anyway, i can't believe i am able to finish a request that is big as this one, one of my masterpiece honestly <3.
Please don't disappoint me on the gameplay )

 

[Argos]

We have one of the best teams in warcraft 3 modding community and I never doubted our success. Gameplay will be unique and nothing we had here before.

Also maybe you'll want to take some "hot shots" for the main page?

 

[Strydhaizer]

Also maybe you'll want to take some "hot shots" for the main page?

I'll do this in the day when i finish the terrain.
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Gonna throw the creative shots later.
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So i finally finished the terrain ,yay! After months of making it i finally finished it.
Here are the creative shots http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/226575-albums8022.html.

 

[Argos]

Ohh man that is sweet!

You did outstanding job there, I cant even express my gratitude. This is amazing...

 

[Strydhaizer]

Did i already send you the map? I can't remember
If you do, you can now remove the test island on the upper right corner of the map, that thing is useless now.
This : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/226575-albums8022-picture98558.html

 

[Argos]

Naah, it's not taking that much space and it's not bothering me in any way yet. I can also test my stuff there

Yes, you sent me the map already.

 

[Argos]

Kor'gal Flayer by Misha

Flayers are savage and brutal branch of Kor'gal Clan. It is them who take credit for spreading fear into the hearts of the outsiders. They are lightly armored to move silently and strike with no remorse. All who enter the Jungle without the consent from their leader is punished accrodingly. The flayed bodies can still be found hanging down from the trees at the borders and some of them are not even dead yet...

 

[MogulKahn]

Damn, he looks good! Cant wait to see more from you! Great job! Both of you!

 

[Argos]

Skullcrush Shieldbearer by HerrDave

Shieldbearers are the backbone of Skullcrush army. Blacksteel plate worn from head to toe makes them almost immune against all forms of damage, but their greatest weapon is the shield. Compared to other warriors shield seems a rather poor weapon, but the opposite is the truth. With a sound like thunder their shields lock togheter in an impenetrable formation and behind them, their Impaler brothers prepare their long spears for a bloody feast.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

Intresting....... Flayers.. shieldbearers.. i would like to see more unique names like Vanguard.. Bloodrinker. Trapper stuff like that.. anyways cool!

 

[MogulKahn]

Weponless! Hmmm, interesting. Can't wait to see others!

 

[Argos]

I'm trying to keep units as much unique as possible. Today i spent 4 hours placing pathing blockers. Guess how many times I exceeded the limit over?

 

[Strydhaizer]

...
Hail Stryder...

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

So any progress on that whole Hero glow thing? I know it's been a while but i can't stress how important the hero glow is to clarity for players in combat.

 

[Argos]

Well, I think the hero glow is the smallest problem of all. I currently work on basic gameplay and since all heroes will get a major revamp there is no point to bother with the models, at least for now.

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

I See, I know it's not as important as getting all the quests to work or making sure that all the clans have equally valuable starting locations, but in a pitched battle a player could well loose because they mistook a elite unit like the blade master for the enemy war chief and used all their burst damage on them before realizing the mistake,

Given what i am seeing though it appears you are making an effort to have fewer normal units sharing models with the heroes correct?

 

[Argos]

It's half the truth, i am more trying to add some new, interesting and unique units into the game.

I want each clan to have a different strategy and advantages. For example if Skullcrush clan has strong, but expensive units, they should concentrate more on close quarter battles in canyons etc, on the other hand clan like Gorimmar can overwhelm the enemies with hordes of weak slaves in open field battle.

I also plan on adding a new clan of half-ogres into the game in future for balance reasons (3v3v3 modes).

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

Any ETA on when the next test map will be ready?

And have you made any effort to replace the random orc clans with Centaurs/Razormanes? I still find it weird when i see these guys not killing off the player clans since they have solid armies to draw on,

 

[Argos]

Well terrain is finished and more or less playable. Working on systems right now, but it will take some time. I can release some naked gameplay version soon enough (This week for sure).

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

Hmm I see, will the supply wagons still be around in the final version? I know you wanted to remove the humans so i was curious,

 

[Argos]

Nono, new terrain map has no humans, I would even say that it's almost not enough to accomodate all those orc clans.

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

I see, any plans for a new caravan type objective? or will the idea be removed entirely?

 

[Chaosy]

I see, any plans for a new caravan type objective? or will the idea be removed entirely?

Sounds interesting. Sadly it sounds complicated to code too.

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

Sounds interesting. Sadly it sounds complicated to code too.

The wagons work but their escorts just stand around the spawn point,

 

[Chaosy]

Well that sounds more like some kind of defense point rather than a caravan. But it'd be easy to code though, I admit.

 

[Arad MNK]

The project is good! I Really like altered melees. The screenshots tell of an awsome Map!

 

[Chaosy]

The project is good! I Really like altered melees. The screenshots tell of an awsome Map!

You'll be sad if you think this is and altered melee map. I don't know how Argos managed to select the wrong genre. It's a risk map of sorts.

@Argos

Ask a mod to change that, seriously.

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

Well that sounds more like some kind of defense point rather than a caravan. But it'd be easy to code though, I admit.

What happens is a wagon and a bunch of knights spawn then the wagon moves through the map towards a end point, and you can take it out for items,

 

[Argos]

Yeah well, in some way it is Altered Melee, I didn't pick Risk/Strategy, cuz I hate Risk and it sounded just...wrong.

I did ask moderators multiple times to remove that old poll and change it though, still no respond.

About that wagon, I thought i might add some kind of "trading" between the clans/factions. For example you buy a wagon, which is controlled by AI, if that wagon gets to your ally base, you both get twice the price of the wagon = profit.

 

[Arad MNK]

You'll be sad if you think this is and altered melee map. I don't know how Argos managed to select the wrong genre. It's a risk map of sorts.

Looks Altered melee More to me.

 

[Argos]

Prefix was changed on Strategy/Risk though I don't think it matters.

In the meantime, we are progressing forward with new systems, which will feature in coming soon pre-beta version.

 

[Strydhaizer]

yay

 

[Thanotos 0mega]

Prefix was changed on Strategy/Risk though I don't think it matters.

In the meantime, we are progressing forward with new systems, which will feature in coming soon pre-beta version.

Sweet,

 

[Argos]

Nice support

 

[Sunreaver]

Any news going on