[vJass] (System) CustomTalentTree

[Anachron]

As the title says, a custom talent tree.
(I will make it besides CustomMissle)

General talk takes place here.
Please suggest features.

Current features:

• vJass
• MUI
• Fast
• Flexibel

 

[Teelo]

You mean talent trees like in WoW?

Okay uh... make sure each class always has an "overpowered" talent tree, a "gimp" talent tree, and a "lol wasted talent point" tree. Make sure they rotate every patch

 

[Anachron]

Dude, its just a system, I am not making the exact World of Warcraft TalentTrees for the classes.

 

[Dynasti]

Will prob take som jassin' there.

You need to register some click events and pictures etc. etc.

Expect atleast 30 hours of work ahead of you, ATLEAST


Good luck! Ask me if there is anything I could do to cut down the time for you.

~Dynasti

 

[Anachron]

I know how to do everything, but thanks. I wait for input with functionality and such

 

[YourNameHere]

You're so nerdy.

What I except from it:

• A talent tree with inferior trees, which might also have other inferior trees.
• Each one should have a default icon, a disabled icon, a description, a skill point cost and maybe a class dependence (a warrior shouldn't be able to learn a fireball spell)

That's what I came up with for now, I might be adding a few other things later.

 

[Anachron]

A talent trees with child trees? Sounds like a cool idea for me.

 

[YourNameHere]

Yep, so you'd have like.

-Fire Magic
--Damage
---Fireball
--Summon
---Elemental
----Fire
----Lava

Or something like that, I hope you actually get the idea behind that.

 

[Anachron]

Yes ofcourse.

 

[mattstheman]

Here is an example of the WoW talent system...

Pic

probably a little more advanced than what this will look like.

 

[YourNameHere]

Looks pretty confusing if you ask me.
I think Anachron will do better

 

[Justify]

Its not confusing at all
There are 3 different trees, each of them uses a different collum (the backgrounds).
The rows mean, that you only can access the next row, if you've spent 5 points in the previous one. Arrows mean, that the skills has to be maxed out before allowing acces to the others.

 

[Anachron]

I have an idea to even recreate the arrows. We will see

 

[Justify]

Oh, and if someone doesn't recognizes it: Orange/Yellow skills are maxed, it's impossible to add more points. Green ones are "allowed" to be skilled again, because the previous row had at least 5 points. Gray ones are not usable due to to less points.

 

[CHA_Owner]

subscribing and saying that you should make this so if you right click a slot it adds the clicked ability to the normal UI as like a quick select with when deactivated it removes the ability also make it so you can only have a max number of set amount of quick selected spells

 

[Anachron]

Great ideas, however, they are not really makeable.
(At least there is no way of rightclick detections)

 

[CHA_Owner]

Great ideas, however, they are not really makeable.
(At least there is no way of rightclick detections)

False talk to Ammorth im pretty shure he made a right click detection script which can detect auto-casting also Toadcop made one i know of.

 

[Etzer]

So, how is it going with this System? Are you focusing on CustomInventory and CustomMissile ?

 

[Element of Water]

False talk to Ammorth im pretty shure he made a right click detection script which can detect auto-casting also Toadcop made one i know of.

It is possible to detect right clicks, but you can't detect where it is clicked, so there is no way of knowing which button you right-clicked on.

 

[CHA_Owner]

Element you are also wrong just ask Ammorth/Toadcop from wc3c.net if you make the items/slots auto-castable then that means the right click can be detected by detecting when the items/slots are set to auto.

 

[Element of Water]

You obviously have no idea how Anachron is doing this. He isn't using abilities or items, he's making it fullscreen with units or trackables to detect mouse clicks.

 

[CHA_Owner]

So wouldn't a right click on a unit be detectable? i mean you could say if order "smart" is used on unit/trackable then set it to w/e you want.

 

[Element of Water]

Lol, you're right. I start thinking about complicated stuff and just ignore the simple, obvious things . Get to it, Anachron!

 

[CHA_Owner]

Lol, you're right. I start thinking about complicated stuff and just ignore the simple, obvious things . Get to it, Anachron!

wow thanks man you know that what i like about you since most people even if i were right would rage fight me for hours

 

[Darkt3mpl3r]

use DGUI please so we can use the skill tree in battles and dont have to go fullscreen into the tree

 

[CHA_Owner]

use DGUI please so we can use the skill tree in battles and dont have to go fullscreen into the tree

DGUI is horrible for any bigger map due to performance issues and that fact that it chokes down so much in order to function.

 

[Anachron]

QTF, Cha is right.
By the way, I don't know whether I select dummy units for talent trees or not.

Anyway, I focus on CustomMissle and CustomInventory atm. (So please keep the discussing rolling, so I can collect the ideas)

 

[Switch33]

You could use trackables for hovering and use units for clicking. I've done it before and it's even somewhat good enough to detect where the mouse is, but only to the accurate size of the trackables. For buttons on a system like an inventory or an skill tree it would work fine. I'll attach the map but please understand a lot of it is just random rush work because i was trying to get it to work and i'm not the greatest coder. I am somewhat good at object editor data. The key to getting the clicks to grab the unit always was to have the selection circle above and the model of the unit also determined the selection. Test using Player 1 Red. And yes it works for multiple players just i'm lazy in setting it up.

 

[Anachron]

I know how to do, but it's ugly, I don't want to unselect the unit the player is using just to get a rightclick to work.

 

[CHA_Owner]

Very true but for a talent tree im not quite shure what your going to need to use in order to get best performance.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

I think that it can have learn and unlearn spell. When click on an spell you get description of it over whole window, and icon of it, and when you press on it again, you will learn that spell. Good idea too, will be to make here combinating of spells, something like Water and Fire to make spell that if you fire it on ground it will burn out fire if you fire it on water it will get out water. Do you get what i mean?

 

[Switch33]

I know how to do, but it's ugly, I don't want to unselect the unit the player is using just to get a rightclick to work.

Indeed, hence why the unit that they are using is re-selected with triggers basically instantly. In the situation of buttons, it's a lot more faster/accurate than my rough mouse detection that I was working on.

If you want the unit to still attack with regular wc3 systems and ignore you clicks then you can select a new dummy unit for detecting left/right clicks, or alternatively you can save and issue the last unit's order right before he right click'd the unit.

I just think that the ability to have right clicks in a skill tree at least would be something that would provide a lot more functionality.

 

[Anachron]

Yes, but I am thinking about the method.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Don't tell me you'll be uploading this to the spells section too?
D:

The_Reborn_Devil rolls over and dies

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

Don't tell me you'll be uploading this to the spells section too?
D:

The_Reborn_Devil rolls over and dies

XDXDXDLOOLLOLOL, hahaha... <-- Offtopic. Anachron when you finish missile system you will start with this talent tree?

 

[Anachron]

Yes, after finishing CustomMissile & the new UI for CustomInventory I'll start CustomTalentTree.

The_Reborn_Devil, don't forget that I am starting CustomAttack too!
Oh wait, I didn't say that to anybody. So, I start CA too!

 

[The Reborn Devil]

The_Reborn_Devil prepares his resignation

I guess I could hope that TriggerHappy notices your system before I do

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

lool, you have say that to me! yiipee. (that was been my idea but you know it)

 

[Anachron]

The_Reborn_Devil prepares his resignation

Lol.

lool, you have say that to me! yiipee. (that was been my idea but you know it)

Wrong, I planned that before CustomInventory actually.

I guess CTT will barely be in beta before of July, and my CA is not (at least not now) thought for being public.

It will connected with my new map project, which I just started.
My gf will be back from russia trip so I won't have that much time anymore.

Good bye good world, I'll be free again when she's not around.

 

[88WaRCraFT3]

ok then, but i knew that because on CM you have say that.

 

[Anachron]

Yes, when I started with vJass I started my CustomAttack project, but I gave up because I did not know enough to make a great system.

Now I am having the knowledge, but the time seems not to like me.

 

[lelyanra]

CustomTree might be done with requirement number point achievement like:

Flame Spear generates 3 FlameSkill points per level and requires 7 FlameSkill points to be "researched". The player might reach that 7 by "researching" skills that give him "points".

Example: two levels of Flameball (1 flameskill pt each), 3 lvls of FlameMastery (1 flameskill pt each), and 1 lvl ArcaneMagic (2 anyskill pts).

You may merge this with normal requirement system aswell . it's only an idea.

 

[Axarion]

It should be easy to check if a hero has a skill and which level the skill has

 

[lelyanra]

it's only an idea.

....

 

[Anachron]

Thanks for the feedback, I'll think about it

 

[karland90]

for flexibility you should add the system some optional features such as resetting the talent points, number of trees (maybe use tabs for them), limitations (class, level, previously spent points), 2 slightly different UIs for one system (e.g. maybe a more minimalistic pet talent tree)?

ofc all of this is obvious and this post useless, but im saying this jn case you might have not thought of all of these.

 

[Catch_ya]

Yes, the use of tabs would be cool. Like in your browser. When you select another tab you show all the images of the selected tab and hide the current images and change value of the trackables. Instead of having 3 colums on the screen at once. Also show/hiding is faster than creating.

 

[Anachron]

Wee, that would be possible, however, I am currently aiming to release CustomAttack demo asap (but pssht, it's a secret).

 

[Catch_ya]

(but pssht, it's a secret).

Not anymore d:. Btw, I knew you had this idea before you made the thread.

 

[Anachron]

Aww damnit, ...
So this will just keep on hold, first I have to finish CustomAttack beta and the Attachmentmod for CustomInventory.