Unmodern Warfare 1.16

[Moderator]

15:50, 3rd Apr 2013
Orcnet: map approved

 

[Fleck]

this map is awesome

 

[Arrr]

Have tested it only once, and very quickly, but I could notice that when you product units like marines, which spawn 2 at time, it happends that with the 2 unit you go over the food supply.
Also fix other minor things like the "not enought food/wood message"

 

[Sick]

Good Things

• Experience system
• Purchasable steel mills gaurded by creeps
• Good use of models
• Good terrain and good size a lot of altered maps over do the size
• The AI
• Many unique races

Bad Things

• Slow movement speed of most units
• No heroes
• Since kill streaks and such matter I would like to see better micro opportunities
• Can't rally workers to the Gold Mine
• The factions I tried had no non mainbase structure that could act as a drop off point for steel
• Hotkeys were not identified in anyway

As the map is now I vote 4/5 and hope to see it approved.

I would really like to see how the game would feel with a faster move speed on all units.

 

[HOooDy]

COOL! It's SMOOTH!

I think adding heros in this map are bad! SO don't make things like that focus your attention in the systems , camera , units and spells.

 

[Wazzz]

I gave this a play and I enjoyed my match against the AI.
I think I'll rope my friends into playing this with me, it's fairly well done and the content is decent, lots of lovely upgrades to research and a decent variety of units.

 

[General Frank]

I've played some matches against the AI with and without human players on LAN and I come to the conclusion that this map is in fact quite cool.
The factions are rather interesting to play and the systems are well put together.
However there some bits that I don't really like:

- You cannot 'harvest' steel. Steel is a product of iron and carbon. So I think you cannot get those from steel mines or something. Just use iron or just metals.

- Way too many information on the units. I don't need all their stat. I just need some description, its strength and weakness and perhaps some fluff text.

- A.I. is pretty damn hard when you play alone against them.

 

[jonbon29]

This is cool although the ai is kinda difficult its very challenging,I like the models you've used. 5/5 the only thing I don't like here is snow, I liked forest or village tile sets. Well anyway that's just me I'm not saying your map is bad or I hate it just becuz of the snow thing OK.

 

[Ragnoras]

Cool map, but you should reskin the workers to make them harvesting iron than wood....... i woukd give a 5/5!

 

[Gigapuddi]

This is indeed an awesome map, i just found a little Bug/Problem or maybe im just a little bit blind. The Upgrade/Building Valhalla, to get the Ultimate German units, is nowhere to be found. Next Problem, even if i destroy every ohter main building there is no text field or popup that i won the match. Im still giving 5/5

 

[Moderator]

23:59, 9th Feb 2015
StoPCampinGn00b: Map approved. Two other UMW maps are approved and this one qualifies as well.

 

[WhiteFang]

Please add screenshots

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Please add screenshots

I don't know if the description was updated after you stated this, but a video is actually better than screenshots

 

[skelguardian]

Love the map! I downloaded your other one though, the gold fever one.

Having alot of fun with it, together with a friend of mine. Is there a difference in difficulty of the AI between easy, normal & hard?

Thanks for the updates ;D

 

[skelguardian]

Love it!

 

[Moderator]

09:01, 6th Sep 2015
Orcnet:

Another wonderful map form from your Altered Melee series, I couldn't much say anything about the un-modern materials being represented in each race. But I got to say, its quite creative and very tech-worthy when it comes to infantry units and vehicles.

The terrain is game worthy as well, however my first test in the map was I thought the shallow waters are customized for being a deep sea variant, then I realize I can actually walk into it, especially when the AI also behaves like it doesn't move in other regions through the shallow waters as well in the first minutes of the game.

Lastly, the position of the button about Self Destruct for buildings seems a bit out of place, I suggest you move it just in the left corner of the coordinates tab, that way it won't make the upgrades/cancel buttons go jumping on all vacant coordinate buttons.

Map Approved.

 

[Lone Adventurer]

I have given a 1 hour and i doht want it back cause it wortp it! Its epic rep+ 5/5

 

[Moderator]

10:28, 6th Sep 2015
Orcnet: Map Approved following the Altered Series of the game.

 

[Lone Adventurer]

All UMW series are good

 

[Orcnet]

Map Approved.

 

[Erindeir]

Brute soviet orcs who lives in armored izbas. Recruit in gulags. er...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofblr9fPa8k

 

[SteakMediumRare]

Noice.

This is the closest i'm getting to a warcraft 3 shooting game, except for playing melee with a single rifleman. More realistic then Call of Duty at least.

5/5

 

[Nightmare2077]

Very nice mod indeed! Fun to play, dynamic and versatile. Well done!

Some positive points that I want to mention particularly:
+Nice Control-Point system
+Nice, creative and properly functioning commander system. Not too micro-intensive, fitting, useful.
+Good resource system. I like that steel has healthbars, very convenient.
+Working AI. I imagine that took a lot of time and effort, so well done!

Some negative issues - all of them fairly minor:
-Grammar and typos. 'Attackdamage' is two words, as much as I understand your inclination to unite them. 'Ressources' has one 's' and I've seen a typo or two in other places ('dmamage', one of early USA buildings/units, don't remember which exactly). Also, Control Points are probably 'captured' rather than 'conquered'
-Hotkeys. They are mostly functioning as QWER, but not everywhere. Example: USA buildings (Engineer build-tab), which had some incorrect hotkeys. The fact that you often don't indicate them is alright, but not perfect, IMO.
-Some misspelling in Russian (for USSR): 'Na zdorovye, comrade' and 'Strelets' is what I spotted.
-Buildings that have passive abilities (auras) should not have them while under construction, right? That is easily fixable with simple GUI triggers (begins construction>remove ability; ends construction>add ability). I had this issue in my mod as well.
-Another minor improvement that I did in my mod: upon selecting a race, workers should ideally be offset towards the gold mine (like in War3), not 'south'. This can also be easily done via GUI triggers (point with polar offset: player start location offset towards a random gold mine within 900 range).


Overall, fun to play, with no encountered bugs and just some minor aesthetic flaws, which hardly damage the gameplay at all. A well-deserved 5/5!

 

[Nightmare2077]

Fun to play, with no encountered bugs and just some minor aesthetic/grammar flaws, which hardly damage the gameplay at all. A well-deserved 5/5!

 

[Ardenaso]

Japan needs some serious nerf

 

[Ardenaso]

How do you do the US Tank's Load ability?

 

[Herohatcher]

Hi Len,
The load abillity was made with the help of triggers: when a Ranger is loaded into a tank or carrier, the tank recieves a modified "phoenixfire" abillity, which fires automatically at enemies. When the unit is unloaded, the tank loses the abillity.
The abillity can stack and is also affected by weapon upgrades

 

[Ardenaso]

Hi Len,
The load abillity was made with the help of triggers: when a Ranger is loaded into a tank or carrier, the tank recieves a modified "phoenixfire" abillity, which fires automatically at enemies. When the unit is unloaded, the tank loses the abillity.
The abillity can stack and is also affected by weapon upgrades

Can you PM me the step-by-step list if you can? I have like zero knowledge on custom spell triggers.

 

[Herohatcher]

Hello fellas,
Version 1.10 comes with a big change:
Resources gathered are greatly reduced to slow down the game.
It would be great to hear your opinion about that

Units and especially infantry move quicker.
Japanese Samurai got nerved down by ca. 10%, due to reasonable complains.

The bots are overall reworked to challenge you in solo play or fill those spots
on your next LAN-Party. But beware, they give you a tough time up from 'medium'.

Looking forward to read your comments and suggestions

 

[Lone Adventurer]

*Imagine the pepe on breathing support but the gas is UMW instead of memes*

 

[Ralle]

Thanks for helping me out with fixing a bug in the bundle merge system

 

[warfreakjohn]

The Map is fantastic it reminds me of starcraft 2 and warcraft 3 with a little performance of c&c but its very great

 

[Deleted member 247165]

Lovely altered melee! <3 Add even more warfare stuffs! 5/5

 

[Fat hamster]

very cool map i feel cute when i play it :v

 

[sovok]

Very nicely made map in its core, however there are too much issues with balance. It really reminds Red Alert 3 for me, from two facts - this map is very fun to play, but balance is just too bad. Let me explain.
We have 4 factions - Soviets, Germany, USA and Japan. Two of them are OK, one is completely broken and another is sitting in corner trying to survive.
Soviets have pretty good infantry, very good supportive air and decent tanks. They are very strong in early-game, basically they can take control of map and never let it go. However their T2 isn't that good, and Japanese and American T3 is hands down better.
Germany is faction that can't do much unless they have like total domination in economics and have total control of map. Reason is pretty simple - lack of anti-invis unit (or I didn't find it). Their air is useless, their infantry is decent (say thank you to beer), their tanks didn't go far from other factions. They can win from some form of miracle only, because next faction just stomps everything.
USA. There is much to talk about them... First of all, they have best infantry and best air + most broken support power. Their tanks are decent, but they can be spammed like infantry. Rangers by themselves are fine, they are good harassment force and they are good at hit-and-running tactics. Combine it with scorched earth tactics and you get very powerful infantry. However what makes them completely broken is Ghille Suits upgrade. 70 damage after attack from invis??? They destroy anything in their view. From just good hit-n-run force they become the most broken thing in entire map, that can delete armies. But that's not the worst. The drop (yellow plus) is the most broken ability (should be ultimate). You will get very much resources from it (which is very good by itself!), but you will get free units also. Yes, it will get worse on 2nd level because marines aren't that broken as rangers, but then you will get vanguards. And you get too much tanks from it. 4 tanks for 0 resources every 90 seconds? In late game I personally don't even know what to do with these tanks, because there is simply TOO much of them. On top of that you are getting additional resources. It really should be either resources or units. Also these resources grant you in fact free techs. Imagine getting free techs with faction, that has best T3 unit - Drone Carrier. And it can spam it, because they WILL secure economy for it with their waves of vanguards. Nothing can really stop it unless you are playing 1v9.
I don't have much to say about japan. Their samurais are good in early game (still dies to marines anyway)? their T3 is good, but overall this faction is overshadowed by USA just as any other faction.
From (self-taught) game designer POV this is nightmare, I don't blame developer of this map, he made very high-quality product, but he should have balanced map much better. That's what I personally think he should do if he will make any changes any time soon:
1) Remove supportive drop from USA
2) Remove Ghille Coats upgrade (or make it so it doesn't give 70 damage on hit instead of 35)
3) Add anti-invis to Loki Helicopter
4) Make German Tanks just a little bit stronger
5) Consider remaking support powers tree (idk what to really suggest here, but in its current state it is not too well-balanced).