Techtree contest

[~Void~]

I talked to Ghan a little while ago about hosting this, and now I'm finally making a thread to get some theme suggestions.

First of all, the point of a techtree contest is to make a balanced "new race" for WC3 to play in melee games.

So essentially what I would like to see is a somewhat general theme, like Evil races, Elemental races etc.

Some suggestions:
- Corrupted race (satyrs, furbolgs, etc)
- Elemental
- Arcane (like beings made of magic, naaru, etc)
- High Elf

 

[Paladon]

This may include:
Custom Models
Custom Icons
Custom Skins
Custom Spells
Custom Object Editor Work
Testing Map
Balance
Teamwork

I like the idea, but it shouldn´t be named "Techtree Contest".
I myself think it should be named "Warcraft Trial" since it will be a general remake of existing features.

The contest shouldn´t be hosted yet, there is a bunch of running and queueing contests.

 

[NinjasDontFight]

Shoudnt "Testing Map" and "Balance" be required? You can make like 20 units with the same attributes but diffrent names and be considered a race, to bluntly say.


I guess I could try.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Yes, make it to use imported stuff, the last one ended pretty crappy.

 

[~Void~]

This may include:
Custom Models
Custom Icons
Custom Skins
Custom Spells
Custom Object Editor Work
Testing Map
Balance
Teamwork

I like the idea, but it shouldn´t be named "Techtree Contest".
I myself think it should be named "Warcraft Trial" since it will be a general remake of existing features.

The contest shouldn´t be hosted yet, there is a bunch of running and queueing contests.

The last two were called Techtree Contests, so I think I'm going to keep that name.

 

[Mechanical Man]

The second one wasn't even finished

 

[~Void~]

I'll make this one better.

 

[Linaze]

Creep race techtree? :O

 

[Naze]

Teamwork

So... You meant teams of 2 or someting like that?

 

[Paladon]

You should be able to enter in a team. Yep. But you may also join alone.
Whatever you prefer.

 

[Gausslander]

I already submitted this contest...

 

[Paladon]

I already submitted this contest...

?????

Link please.

 

[Chaos.]

i've been wanting to enter a tech tree contest ever since i saw it done in the past. Please, what ever you decide, please make it one that would involve making a draenei race.

my idea is outland races.

this will inclde:
-Draenei( I would be doing)
-broken draenei
-Blood elf
-fel orc
- and some others

I will have to make a draenei race adventually for my campaign so why not make it for a contest.

 

[Paladon]

I got some great concept ideas.
However, let's keep this thread.

 

[AirHead]

This sounds cool (unlike the no import one last time)!

Outland theme is ok but not enough races in Outland, there would be arguments over who uses which race/model/icon et cetera...

Elemental theme is ok but there would be arguments about what fits the theme just like in modeling contest #10.

Corrupt theme has the same problem as Outland.

Arcane could be very good although many of these could fall under Elemental and cause arguments.

High elf is a single race... unless you mean for it to be like the texturing competition (NO!) then I don't think so, too restricted, plus high elf could fit in Corrupted.

Creeps seems to be very nice but I think there are too many races... then again never mind that comment. I like this theme.

Evil races... what is evil but an opinion? Honestly to Arthas/lich king the holy light are bad guys, in fact I would say the scourge are the least evil of all, think about it. humans are racist toward all but their allied races (gnomes night elves dranei et cetera) but will kill any orc on sight, (be he a friend or foe) just like every other race. But the scourge is not racist, after all, racism is special hate toward a single or group of race(s), and the scourge hates all races equally.
thus who would you make? Humans? certantly not the racially equal burning legion. maybe Night elves. and don't pull the "Arthas wants them dead" card because hey, they want Arthas dead too.

 

[Chaos.]

Or how about a de-evolution theme. Where ppl would work in teams to make 2 races that 1 of those has been changed into a different race.

just some examples.

highborne-naga
Draenei-unbroken
orcs-fel orcs
high elves-blood elves
Night elf-satyr
murloc-murgul

or they could even create their own races.

 

[Gilles]

Have any of the previous tech-tree contests been a success?

 

[Mechmap]

The 1st one was, we got plenty of submissions back then but it was a very simple contest, no imported material and I'm not sure it was allowed to even trigger spells.

 

[Gilles]

Well that would be a rather boring race. : (
I'm all for no imports, but I'd like to see custom spells.

 

[Linaze]

I would definitely love to see no imports.
The theme should be something not to limited, my idea would be Creep Race, such as ogres, trolls, goblins or so.

 

[Ghost765]

hm, are the races restricted to wc3 races?

 

[Linaze]

Well, they way I see it, races should be restricted to any of the races you can find under the neutral/creep units, that would include Magnataur's, Tuskarr, Zerg, Furbolgs and every other race. Something like a modern warfare race or so would not be accepted, though.
These is just my idea, however.

 

[Ghost765]

im just sayin, in case someone wants to do something like an alternate humans race or something, or alternate orcs.
EDIT: oh an uh, doesnt zerg go under futuristic?

 

[Chaos.]

I dont think there should be a no import rule. There are so few units for each race, that you would pretty much have to use the same model for like 2 or 3 different units. Like furbolgs for example only have like 4 different units. The race would suck if it only had 4 variations of units, just with different size, color and stuff like that. Importing recources is mainly to increase the amount of variations of units that a race can have. So i think that this contest should allow imported material. Races would look alot cooler.

Would the broken draenei be counted as a creep race?

 

[Linaze]

The broken draenei wouln't be one, since there are no units in wc3 that are broken draenei.
The Lost ones, however, would work as a race.
About the zerg: there are zerg creeps, so I guess it could work, but lack of models etc. would probably stop anyone from attempting a Zerg techtree anyways.

 

[Ghost765]

so...we have to use creep races? and if so, do dwarves count as creeps?

 

[Chaos.]

Sry i meant to say lost ones. So if we are doing creeps then i want to do lost ones.

Creeps in my opinion would basically be any race that is not in one of the original four races. so dwarves would probably not be couted as creeps. But maybe if you make like wild hammer dwarves you might get away with calling them creeps. ( im just a noob so im probably wrong, but that is my opinion, lol)

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well that would be a rather boring race. : (
I'm all for no imports, but I'd like to see custom spells.

I would definitely love to see no imports.
The theme should be something not to limited, my idea would be Creep Race, such as ogres, trolls, goblins or so.

And then we get bunch of unanimated buildings for those races. :/

 

[Hawkwing]

We were going to have one, but then I dropped out and for some reason it never happened.

 

[~Void~]

I think imports are necessary, but a map filesize limit should also be made. Something like 1MB maximum.

Gilles, can you add a theme poll? I want to get this contest started as soon as possible... we need a non-artistic contest for once.

 

[Linaze]

Good idea Void. Imports, but with a relatively low maximum filesize.

 

[Gilles]

I think imports are necessary, but a map filesize limit should also be made. Something like 1MB maximum.

Gilles, can you add a theme poll? I want to get this contest started as soon as possible... we need a non-artistic contest for once.

What about a Battle.Net contest? It might be hard to arrange, but it's worth a shot.

Not sure I can add polls, and what themes?

 

[~Void~]

If you have powers here (which you do) you should be able to. And I don't know; just do some simple stuff like Creep Race, Elemental, Demonic etc.

 

[Gausslander]

?????

Link please.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/f359/new-raw-tech-tree-contest-94092/
Not only was it accepted; it was supposed to be hosted right after the paired mapping contest... then it was forgotten.

 

[~Void~]

It's archived, and why does this even matter? It will be the same concept.

 

[Gausslander]

It's archived, and why does this even matter? It will be the same concept.

I'm just wondering why they didn't bring mine back to life if they really wanted one.

 

[Ghost765]

i think we should just let everyone just make their own custom race, not really having a specific theme.

 

[~Void~]

Then we would get stupid things like Zerg, Terran and WoW Draenei.

 

[Ghost765]

then just ignore those?

 

[Gausslander]

then just ignore those?

Ignore someone's work? ... What's the point of permitting something if you're not going to accept it even if they do do it?

 

[Mechmap]

No restrictions on the races. No imports would stop those who tries to create a futuristic race anyway.

 

[~Void~]

No to no imports. As I said before, it will be a 1MB maximum file size limit. That allows for only a few imported models. As for theme, I'm going to say our best bet is to make a Fantasy/Medieval race, and anyone who makes something silly like WoW Draenei can get a low score on the concept section.

 

[Linaze]

I'm with Void on this one.

 

[Gilles]

No, I see no poll adding options.

 

[Linaze]

Then create a new thread with the poll?

 

[Artins the Great]

Sounds fun, better get my wc 3 on again.

 

[Chaos.]

Well if youre doing a 1 mb limit then wow draenei would be impossible to do anyways and still make it decent. And what is so wrong with wow draenei. Unlike you, alot of ppl on the hive actually like that race. just because you dont like it doesnt mean that you shouldnt give them a fair chance to make a draenei race. It is warcraft related atleast. But definatly dont allow zerg.

I do like the theme though.

 

[Gilles]

Then create a new thread with the poll?

Shhhh, I'm being lazy. I'll do it later today.

 

[Linaze]

What does it take, 10 minutes?
No really, you represent the THW's staff, you have the right to be lazy.

 

[Gilles]

What does it take, 10 minutes?
No really, you represent the THW's staff, you have the right to be lazy.

10 minutes that I don't have.
We tend to be a lazy staff, yes. It's not good.
I'll make it now though.