Techtree Contest #4 - Improved Melee Race

[Direfury]

I seem to have fixed the problem, with Desperation, a research option allowing Towers to attack aswell as Spires.

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Guys I think I am going to have to drop out :/
Only 2 days until the deadline and I am far from completion.
Good luck to everyone who is still in.

 

[Wraithling]

Another contestant drops out Hope you still get to finish it outside the contest Silly Lil Ant

Anyway I've updated my submission to version 2. I've just steamrolled through a test game, so I think its now even more OP than the original version. If you find the race hard to play, then perhaps you aren't utilizing the strengths of the race right. Feel free to ask me about my race or give feedback

 

[Direfury]

I'm currently retooling the Heirophant, and trying to figure out how to fix the whole "infinite heroes" thing.

 

[Wraithling]

This is what i'm using:

[trigger=heroes limit]MyTrigger
Events
Conditions
Actions
Set PlayerGroupHumans = (All players matching ((((Matching player) controller) Equal to User) and (((Matching player) slot status) Equal to Is playing)))
Player Group - Pick every player in PlayerGroupHumans and do (Actions)
Loop - Actions
Player - Limit training of Hero1 to 1 for (Picked player)
Player - Limit training of Hero2 to 1 for (Picked player)
Player - Limit training of Hero3 to 1 for (Picked player)
[/trigger]

 

[Direfury]

the Variable is confusing the hell out of me, mind making it a bit easier to replicate?

 

[GhostThruster]

This is what I'm using: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/arena-226/techtree-contest-4-a-186394/index17.html#post1811495

You now owe me your soul.

WIP 2. Finished all the units' abilities. Lumber gain is messed up, but fixable.
Still have to do items (nearly done, but not added in this WIP) and 12 hero abilities... in 2 days.

 

[Sage Chow]

warning: possible ranting ahead

That deadline is approaching fast! I seriously underestimated how much time one can tinker.. I am quite done with the basics, but not nearly done with details. Stuff like good icons, making spells work like they're supposed to, fixing ugly stuff in models etc. Lol, I haven't even gotten my townhall to entangle a goldmine yet..

The most dangerous are the 'simple' spell ideas: Like 'Unit begins casting frost arrows, do actions' doesn't work. Auto-targeting both friends ánd enemies: Just change the 'targets allowed' field? Offcourse not. And what IS the activate parasite command action (it's not in the damn list!). It's not that there are no solutions, it's just that an elegant workaround cost so much time..

I'll soldier on an post a 'playable' (crossing fingers) version soon. But I could seriously use some time to shave the rough edges of the map.

 

[67chrome]

Yea, making a race takes a lot of time, all the tooltips, abilities, units, buildings, figuring out how to get work-arounds to work... I still have to refine the triggered bits for about a third of my abilities and in general tie loose ends and polish the race overall. I kind of want to set up a uniform build animation for all my buildings like I did with my last race (wc3c contest), not sure if I'll have time for that though.

 

[GhostThruster]

How's you're Naga going, 67chrome? You've got a bigger techtree(I mean, look at all your units!!!) than me for sure!

@Sage Chow: To know that you tried is good enough. Good luck. If you want the BTN of Parasite, use the 'Buff' list.

 

[Sage Chow]

^^ Tried?! I dó intend to submit (well atleast) something, you know =P And I need to order a unit to activate autocasting parasite. I guess there must be a custom script for that somewhere, but it's not that i'm bathing in time to go and find out =P. Anyways, good to know i'm not the only one with a shortage of time, good luck on the hero-skills. Took me long enough, that's for sure

 

[67chrome]

@ GhostThruster: there coming along O.K, I might end up removing a few things I can't get to work before submitting it though.

@ Sage Chow: Are you talking about the thingy that causes units to have an ability be auto-casting when they're produced? The siren should have that with parasite on, just highlight the her field with it on and copy it, then select the field for the unit you need it on and paste it their. I'm using parasite for my charge ability, and got it to be auto-casting without having to set it to auto-cast. Hopefully that helps :/

-Edit: Nevermind, you're talking about the issue order with no target thing right? Because turn on/off parasite totally isn't in there like turning on/off other auto-cast abilities.

Didn't realize this before, but apparently if you check the attack speed and movement speed stacking options with slow poison the slows stack based on the number of units with slow poison attacking the same target. I guess that is in there with damage so that the damage over time isn't negated when multiple dryads are targeting the same unit (as their damage stacks).

 

[Wazzz]

Hmmm.... almost done, just got to figure out a few more abilities lol
If I dont submit, I'm not really bothered either way, I'll probably just post my submition anyway if it ever gets completed just for people to muck around with and get ideas

 

[Sage Chow]

@67Chrome: Thanks! But it's a bit more complicated than that. The ability casts a speed boost on ancients (bloodlust) and slows enemy non ancients with a chance to spawn destructable plants (parasite).

To have it auto-targeting both allies and enemies I apply a trick:
- On the first right click the spell auto-targets allies. A trigger increases the level of bloodlust to target only ancients/allies and orders the unit to activate autocast of the level ability.
- On the second right click bloodlust swaps to parasite so the spell targets enemy units.

The only thing that appears to change to the player is the tooltip: right click to auto-target allied units/enemy units/turn off autocast. The problem is that I need to set parasite on autocast immediatly or it will look really lame. There is a GUI tool: order unit to activate bloodlust, but it doesn't appear for parasite.

 

[GhostThruster]

• Actions
  • Custom script: call IssueImmediateOrderBJ( GetTriggerUnit(), "parasiteon" )

 

[Sage Chow]

That did the trick. Thanks man, that saves me an hour of tinkering =)

 

[JokeMaster]

My W.I.P the buildings are unfinished, no upgrades, lacking of heroes and 3 unit spells. Status of the map from friday.

 

[Pharaoh_]

I decided to extend the deadline, since I realize that comprehending the theme was difficult in the first place and time consuming; plus, more people have the chance of participating and materialising what they came up with, but didn't have the time to finish it. New deadline on 12th of February; first and last extention.

 

[Direfury]

So now we can go 'til the 12th? Kickass.

 

[Freyleyes]

Sweet!!! I was busting my ass today to finish, just came up to check deadline. Now I can chill a little

I forgot that the World Editor isn't like the Galaxy Editor, it doesn't remove leaks

 

[Wazzz]

Oh, I just read now as I finish my race that there's an extension? Meh, I don't want to work on mine any more =)

Here it is, in ALL. IT'S. GLORY.

Simple race with simple ideas and abilities, wanted to make it just like a campaign race and so people can have fun playing with it :3

EDIT: Looks like I forgot something very simple in the edit, going to submit again. Thankyou Wraithling for pointing that out for me =)

 

[Mephestrial]

Here is another WIP for me. I personally feel that they are under-powered, but then again I was never that good at war3.

 

[Ash Darkside]

Pharaoh_ thank you, now I can get my race done properly.

I may post a wip in a couple of days.

 

[Direfury]

I've replaced the Fallen Knight's Focus with Siege, which sends a beacon of light into the sky to rain Holy Fire down on his enemies.

I'm also trying to tweak Sanctity so it'll teleport allied units and enemy units.

 

[67chrome]

Woot! This should give me enough time to set up universal build animations and add fire effects to damaged buildings made from doodads. Excellent.

 

[JokeMaster]

God bless pharaoh_ THANKS!
EDIT: I found something i must know the contest ends at 11:59 12th february , right? AM or PM ??

 

[GhostThruster]

Yes, Pharaoh_ I LOVE YOU AGAIN!!!

Christ, I was so scared of not making it...

 

[Malcous]

Woot! This should give me enough time to set up universal build animations and add fire effects to damaged buildings made from doodads. Excellent.

Wow :O


@ Wazz i think that no build time is pretty unfair , u can just build 20 barracks and make armys within 2 seconds :O

 

[-Kobas-]

Cool it seams that I can finish this after all ^^

 

[Direfury]

I'm currently debating whether or not to replace one of my generic units with a Gnome.

Seriously, I wanna use my Gnomish Blackguard model, but I can't find a good spot for it.

 

[Wazzz]

@Malcous: Ah good, you played my race =)
Hope you enjoyed it, wanted to make a race more like the campaign Naga one (as there are no rules saying I cannot )
But as for the 'no build times', there is, of course, the stock replenish intervals. But yea, I see how it can be unfair in the lategame.
How did you like the rest of the race, though? =)

 

[VeljkoM]

Wait its now till 12th February? There is hope for me yet!

 

[Direfury]

Just a taste of things to come.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=1t3m0h

I'm currently balancing everything out.

 

[Malcous]

Just a taste of things to come.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/p....php?id=1t3m0h

I'm currently balancing everything out.

Nice Race , but ur buildings are too big :O

 

[Wazzz]

The race is confusing to play and doesn't really seem to be too well done imo. I could be wrong, but my criticism is that the gameplay for it seems very random and not too well thought out. Also, the buildings are too big.

 

[VeljkoM]

Same as everyone else said plus some icons lack disabled version.

 

[Fuzzyfury]

So I got about 3 days... it's on!

 

[Direfury]

The buildings are supposed to be large and relatively weak. However, if it's that much of a problem, I'll scale them down.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Well who wants to test some of the entries with me sometime tomorrow?

 

[Fuzzyfury]

WIP time! I am making the Forsaken D Here are the screens of Ground units, Flying units and Heroes.

 

[Wraithling]

I don't know what's Forsaken, but looks good so far.

Oh TWIF, maybe after the contest when I've merged my race with one or two others

 

[Fuzzyfury]

I don't know what's Forsaken, but looks good so far.

Oh TWIF, maybe after the contest when I've merged my race with one or two others

Forsaken are Sylvanas' undead. Forsaken on WoWwiki

 

[The World Is Flat]

once all the entries are submitted, We'll do some testing.

 

[VeljkoM]

Where will you be testing maps?

 

[The World Is Flat]

Both Garena and Bnet.

I cant host on Bnet, so Garena most likely.

 

[67chrome]

Both Garena and Bnet.

I cant host on Bnet, so Garena most likely.

Sounds cool. I'll be willing to test them out once the contest is over, I still have a lot of work on mine to do.

 

[VeljkoM]

That's great cuz I only have garena.

 

[Midnighters]

I have Garena as well

 

[Wazzz]

ADVRipper, Why?

Seriously, why? The idea of the contest is to make one race and to do it well. Why are you announcing that you're going to make 20 different races that don't even follow the rules of the contest here?

 

[Marcelo Hossomi]

I think I won't be able to finish mine on time >.>
Still have 3 heroes to make... If I make them in such a hurry it will turn into crap D: