Stacraft 2 : Join the petition for linux playability

[Xarwin]

Greetings everyone.

Starcraft 2, blizzard's upcoming game is going to be released soon (or late) in this year, and I'd like to see it on another thing than windows & mac, named Linux.

Some people under us might know or even use Linux, although, I started to use it and I think it is great.
But I am a gamer too, and if you didn't knew : Linux makes it hard to install some games.

For this, there is a long petition running to get starcraft 2 installable on linux too.
I hope people will join the petition and sign for the support of Linux gamers.
With more luck, Blizzard Entertainment might add on all their new games a Linux game installer.

The link : http://new.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

I hope some people under you support it.

Regards,
~- Heero

 

[redmarine]

Greetings everyone.

Starcraft 2, blizzard's upcoming game is going to be released soon (or late) in this year, and I'd like to see it on another thing than windows & mac, named Linux.

Some people under us might know or even use Linux, although, I started to use it and I think it is great.
But I am a gamer too, and if you didn't knew : Linux makes it hard to install some games.

For this, there is a long petition running to get starcraft 2 installable on linux too.
I hope people will join the petition and sign for the support of Linux gamers.
With more luck, Blizzard Entertainment might add on all their new games a Linux game installer.

The link : http://new.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

I hope some people under you support it.

Regards,
~- Heero

They have already stated that they WONT! And will NOT! Make it for any console nor anything else than Windows and Apple... which will be awesome... lol...
ALL HAIL MICROSOFT!!! lol...
Offtopic: Why don't people want to use Windows operative system? They are a lot more versatile though a bit buggy but who gives a shit.(They usually update them so they won't be so buggy)



On the other hand if they want it to work for linux I guess they have to modifiy it to their needs which may not be legal/allowed by Blizzard.
BTW what is Linux anyway? What kind of an operative system is it?(Only heard bad stuff about it not being reliable as microsoft)
Microsoft should conquer the operative system industry!

 

[Mini-Me]

Linux wasn't made for games period. Blizzard won't do a linux version.

 

[BlinkBoy]

linux is more a professional system. It's mainly used by programmers and other people. Making a linux-comptable starcraft II version, would be a big waste of money; it wouldn't sell more than 5000 copies. Plus blizzard would be forced to hire employees for maintainance and development of the linux edition.

 

[Massive_attack]

So soory all those linux users got the short end of the stick due to them choosing a system developed outside the major brand names and with a terrible compatability record (though admittedly not as bad as vista) with little going for it. Really I am, im totaly not being sarcastic here.

 

[Xarwin]

Well,
Starcraft 2 could possibly run under Linux too,
BUT, it is just harder to install (I may know how to do it at that period).
Although,
Maybe Blizzard could create a FAQ about how to install Starcraft 2 on a linux system (Linux beginners would need it).

 

[Mechanical Man]

Is not that for DirectX libraries, which run only on windows?

 

[redmarine]

Is not that for DirectX libraries, which run only on windows?

I believe so. But Microsoft don't want other companies to get hold of their secrets etc. so... heh.

 

[Captain Griffen]

If the game is Mac-playable, it will have to have a different rendering option than just DirectX. Normally it would be DirectX option and OpenGL option, which seems to be the case.

Now, Linux is much better for doing stuff when you know what you're doing. However, it has terrible game compatability - due to DirectX's prevalence, and also due to game companies not making it for Linux.

Given that, if you know what you're doing, having a dual Linux/XP boot is simple (and, let's be honest, if you're too stingy to pay for XP, getting a pirate version isn't hard). If you like to play games and use linux, then really you need such a dual boot, and if you use linux, you should be able to manage that easily. In addition, given the OpenGL support, making it run in Linux with some compatability software shouldn't be too hard.

All of this basically makes the market for gamers who use linux and don't have a Windows XP/Vista boot very, very small.

 

[Mecheon]

Just ignoring everything about Linux missing out on game features, its apparently a real annoyance to port over games to it anyway, which is probably the reason there aren't many Linux ports of games

 

[busterkomo]

Can't you just emulate it?

 

[Xarwin]

You can emulate windows in Linux,
but there is always a chance that it won't work.

 

[redmarine]

It is almost fun how Windows destroys all compition.

 

[Dr Super Good]

This is totally pointless.

Rather than linux support, they should plug in tons of models and extra content. That way the people who can use it will be even more happy rather than everyone having a slightly worse and more bug filled game.

 

[Eleandor]

It's not as if a linux version would suddenly cut down the amount of models in the game...

But not that I care about linux. If you want to game, get windows. Why? Because any game runs on windows. It sounds easier to me to just get windows than to complain to 90% of all game developers that they didn't make a linux compatible version...

 

[Mechanical Man]

It wouldn't be hard to make a linux version. You just need different compilers for it. However there is some stuff (like Directx) game needs that doesn't run on linux.

 

[Xarwin]

Well,
Cedega might support Starcraft 2 for Linux.
http://www.transgaming.com/

Maybe Wine could also run it, who knows..

 

[Hakeem]

It is almost fun how Windows destroys all compition.

Lock-in is the most valuable asset to a commercial computer company.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, Mac sure as hell doesn't use DirectX, so it's most likely that an OpenGL graphics option is available, so why not just make a Linux port using said OpenGL graphics? They don't even have to have technical support for it, and it would probably still run better than it's Vista brother.

 

[Massive_attack]

No matter what fancy direct X bs they come up for this game ill be damned if i switch to vista.

 

[Hakeem]

This is totally pointless.

Rather than linux support, they should plug in tons of models and extra content. That way the people who can use it will be even more happy rather than everyone having a slightly worse and more bug filled game.

In addition to:

It's not as if a linux version would suddenly cut down the amount of models in the game...

Blizzard is a business. They do not care how much fun you have, as long as you buy the game. Supporting Linux would sell more. Unfortunately, it might not sell enough extra for them to invest time in it.

 

[redmarine]

In addition to:

Blizzard is a business. They do not care how much fun you have, as long as you buy the game. Supporting Linux would sell more. Unfortunately, it might not sell enough extra for them to invest time in it.

Perhaps in sometime in the future they might when Linux might get a bit more popular.

 

[AbbaSou]

In addition to:

Blizzard is a business. They do not care how much fun you have, as long as you buy the game. Supporting Linux would sell more. Unfortunately, it might not sell enough extra for them to invest time in it.

However, in order for the game to sell, it must be a fun game. Sure some people will buy it the day it hits the shelves, but if the news spreads that it's not a great game, more people won't buy it. Moreover, people may lose faith in Blizzard as a game-making company, which will carry over to their next games' sales. It's a lot easier to earn a bad rep than a good one. So I'd say Blizzard is under huge pressure to make a great game that's very fun, otherwise their company stands a great chance of failing altogether. After all, WoW can't last forever.

 

[Grade A Kill]

I may be XP but you linux guys should have starcraft none the less...even though i hate that game, but you guys enjoy it (somehow) so you guys should get to play it.

 

[Massive_attack]

Oh hey Grade A Kill, I thought you left these forum's. Great to see you, your a pleasure to have around !

 

[Grade A Kill]

no i didn't leave because people think rts games are somehow good : )
I think Blizzard should let Linux people get to play SC2

 

[redmarine]

I highly doubt that they will. Linux users will have to find their own way to run StarCraft II on their Linux Operative System.

 

[Daminon]

Join the petition for cancelling SC2.

 

[redmarine]

Who here would actually do that? The revolutionary Scum Editor will be released along with StarCraft II so almost no one here will join that.

 

[Mechanical Man]

But if they make Mac version, they can make also Linux version. As far as I know, Macs use OpenGL too.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Screw Linux. Seriously. Chances are if you can use Linux you can modeify the game to play on Linux anyway.

In any case, don't use Linux if you want to play games on your computer.

 

[brad.dude03]

But why? It owns Windows in every way

 

[Grade A Kill]

I heard alot about linux, yeah it does pwn windows in almost everyway, thing is, when starcraft 2 comes out, i can play it on my PC, but you cant : )

 

[AbbaSou]

Yes we can. It's called VM Ware. Not that it's the best solution, but it works.

 

[brad.dude03]

Actually it's called Dual Boot. I turn on my computer, i'm presented with a screen asking whether I'd like to boot Ubuntu or XP. I'm on my merry way.

 

[Xarwin]

WILLTHEALMIGHTY,
does that means you'd want everything made for microsoft (which is happening anyway)?

Almost every product is made for microsoft, meanwhile we forget that there are other systems too (easyer, better protected, faster, ..).

 

[AbbaSou]

Actually it's called Dual Boot. I turn on my computer, i'm presented with a screen asking whether I'd like to boot Ubuntu or XP. I'm on my merry way.

Well, true, except in my case Ubuntu or Vista. But I was talking about playing games (ignoring Cedega) from within Linux. Sadly, since I like my games, I spend most of my time in Vista. It runs stable enough for me, and even though I use absolutely 0 security software, I've never had a problem with viruses, spyware, etc.

 

[redmarine]

Neither have I. Though I am a Microsoft fanatic but there are limits on how far I would go. Microsoft products are good but sometimes(probably often) Microsoft really bullies everyone around and pushes other good free products away. Linux and OpenOffice are doing a pretty good job.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I don't like Microsoft anymore than you do.

But if you want to use Linux, do like Brad, and don't whine because SC2 doesn't work on Linux. Just use Dual Boot.

EDIT: And I don't like Mac either. They're no better than Microsoft, but they don't a huge part of the market.

 

[Hakeem]

So if they didn't support Mac, should Mac users not complain and just dual-boot?

Okay, so maybe Linux isn't as popular as Mac, but it sure would help a bunch of people if Blizzard made it work for Linux.

 

[redmarine]

From what I've heard Linux is almost made just for advanced users so I probably guess that they'll figure out their own way to run the game on their Operative System(Linux) or they'll just duel boot.

 

[AbbaSou]

From what I've heard Linux is almost made just for advanced users so I probably guess that they'll figure out their own way to run the game on their Operative System(Linux) or they'll just duel boot.

Negative. It's true that Linux didn't used to be very user-friendly. A lot of stuff was done with commands and there was a lot configuring/tweaking involved. Nowadays, however, some distributions have made huge strides in making the environment much more intuitive and friendly to new-comers. One of the most popular distributions, Ubuntu, has been particularly successful in bringing Linux to the level of the common user, so much so that major vendors like Dell and HP are starting to offer it as an option for your pre-installed OS. There's lots of reasons why many users choose Linux, just as there are reasons why people choose Windows or OSX. Linux is not for everyone, but it can be for many more than Microsoft and Apple would like you to think.

 

[brad.dude03]

Dude, Ubuntu has to be easier to use than freaking Mac.

I don't know where you get your misconceptions, but Linux is not back in the DOS-stages of old, where the whole thing is command line, etc, etc. It's actually SOOOOO easy to use, and the fact that it usually downloads stuff that you need for you, rather than you having to seek it out and download it yourself (Flash player, Java, codecs) just makes it that much easier.

The only downside AT ALL to Linux is the compatiblity. No one supports it, so we have to make our own stuff for it (Which works great except in the case of games).

 

[redmarine]

Dude, Ubuntu has to be easier to use than freaking Mac.

I don't know where you get your misconceptions, but Linux is not back in the DOS-stages of old, where the whole thing is command line, etc, etc. It's actually SOOOOO easy to use, and the fact that it usually downloads stuff that you need for you, rather than you having to seek it out and download it yourself (Flash player, Java, codecs) just makes it that much easier.

The only downside AT ALL to Linux is the compatiblity. No one supports it, so we have to make our own stuff for it (Which works great except in the case of games).

Does that mean someone could just assemble a team and begin to support it and get rich?

 

[brad.dude03]

The user base is still relatively small, so you'd have to both advertise the shit out of it, AND support it, which would create hype causing other companies to jump on board and add Linux compatiblity to their software.

But, if you were good enough, yeah, you could make a shitload of money from it.

The other reason that Linux is unsupported is open source. Generally, software for Linux is free AND open source, and sadly, greedy corporations just wont role that way, hence, leaving Linux out of the mix.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

It would be pretty awewsome if Microsoft didn't have monopoly over the whole market. 3 or 4 companies battling it out would be nice, as long as games are made compatible with all of their OS.

 

[Hakeem]

The worst problem with computers

Lock in.
Because once you're running their software, they can make more money if you can't switch.
Money + computers = !@#$&%

 

[Ash]

BTW what is Linux anyway? What kind of an operative system is it?(Only heard bad stuff about it not being reliable as microsoft)
Microsoft should conquer the operative system industry!

I hope that was a joke......

Also, I've signed up. It's about time some companies took their fingers out of their backsides and created games to be playable via Linux, certainly blizzard considering they made SC and WC3 mac playable.

Ontop of that, people who say Linux wasn't made for games, why then can people create programs (such as WINE) to play games?

Linux is, like Windows and Mac, an operating system. Windows is not just for games, yet it has the most game compatibility. Mac, well...... Thats another subject.

The bottom line is, Windows wasn't created, originally, with the intentions of gaming in mind. Remember that next time you blurt out a comment like that

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Microsoft is USA company! Argh we need similiars companies battling against that Microsoft! Also I hope they are from EUROPE, RUSSIAN and CHINA. I would firstly buy Europe, then Russian, then China and lastly USA. Yeah that it should be! Now all my moneys goes to USA. Oh noes that's bad! I must soon download Linux! At least it's free and money won't go to "war provoke countries".

 

[redmarine]

Microsoft is USA company! Argh we need similiars companies battling against that Microsoft! Also I hope they are from EUROPE, RUSSIAN and CHINA. I would firstly buy Europe, then Russian, then China and lastly USA. Yeah that it should be! Now all my moneys goes to USA. Oh noes that's bad! I must soon download Linux! At least it's free and money won't go to "war provoke countries".

You can't say that it is a US corporation anymore. It is a world wide organization which drains money out of people who like their softwares. Sure it controls almost the entire US market. At the moment Microsoft Corp. are trying to eliminate the Linux threat on laptops by making their Operative Systems a lot cheaper so computer makers will buy(Presumably) their Operative Systems.