Spell Brainstorming

[Mechmap]

Lirch:

Enrage(Ulti)

Whenever Lirch's hp comes below 300 he becomes furius, trying to hit anyone close to him with massive damage and attack speed.

So this is like 45 bonus damage and 200% attack speed bonus but he attacks any enemy close to him and if a friendly unit is nearby the attacked unit, he will also be damaged for the same amount, like a 100% cleaving attack. But has a long cooldown.

 

[Pyritie]

Uchiha - So it's sort of like an AoE curse? Could be useful. Let's change that to "Lirch picks up some dirt from the ground and flings it to the target area, temporarily blinding all units in that area.

Mechmap - So is it a passive or...?

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Lirch:

Enrage(Ulti)

Whenever Lirch's hp comes below 300 he becomes furius, trying to hit anyone close to him with massive damage and attack speed.

So this is like 45 bonus damage and 200% attack speed bonus but he attacks any enemy close to him and if a friendly unit is nearby the attacked unit, he will also be damaged for the same amount, like a 100% cleaving attack. But has a long cooldown.

Wow,the best idea so far!Passive it is.

 

[Mechmap]

Yeah, a passive but once used its a cooldown on it.

 

[Pyritie]

Sort of like reincarnation?

 

[Mechmap]

yeah like reincarantion.

 

[Pyritie]

Oh okay. I'll think about that one.

 

[DesKaladA]

Coalch

Fast Auction(Ulit)

Coalch sells off the capured monsters as pets and gets gold for his bank

(Like transmute but gold is based of of spell level x monster level + random number form 20-100)

 

[Pyritie]

I lol'd.

 

[DesKaladA]

I lol'd.

so you like it?
if so where is my +rep?
where is my pizza
where is my chainsaw

why is the world so crule

 

[Pyritie]

It just doesn't fit.

 

[DesKaladA]

ok i'll keep thinking

 

[Preskooldude]

Py now has his Polarize set up Yaaaay.

 

[DesKaladA]

For Coalch

How about

Drafitng

Coalch drafts a crack team of men to help on the front lines

(damage and heath gose up with each level and every 2 they get a spell/ abilty)

 

[Pyritie]

So it's basically a summoning spell?

 

[DesKaladA]

well ya i gess


godiheatethischarlimit

 

[Pyritie]

Hmm...

Still need an ultimate for Lirch.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Make something like he goes super speed crazy and has some positive and negative effects.

 

[Pyritie]

He already has a super speed spell.

At the moment he just has "Adrenaline Rush" i.e. avatar with a different name and icon. Very boring.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Hmmmmm...that needs thinking....I will find one.

~Will you credit me on the map for spell ideas or no?

 

[Pyritie]

If I like your idea and I end up using it, sure.

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

You already used one.

 

[Pyritie]

I'm still kinda iffy on that one though...

EDIT: New idea for an ultimate for Lirch!

Basically, he runs super fast (basically blinks) to the target point, damaging and stunning units in the way. He also leaves behind a flaming trail that damages all units over time.

 

[Mechmap]

That is a cool spell. A pity i didn't come up with it...

 

[Pyritie]

Bah, look at the first post. Most of the new spells are either from a spell factory on wc3c or from you. You have indeed been very helpful. Don't be disappointed that you didn't suggest another one.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Well, if you run out of ideas i guess you can always use Omnislash with few modifications.

Imagine Omnislash with that fire detail ... it would be fire slash =P

 

[Pyritie]

Eww. I'm not resorting to omnislash. Ever.

 

[Mechmap]

Bah, look at the first post. Most of the new spells are either from a spell factory on wc3c or from you. You have indeed been very helpful. Don't be disappointed that you didn't suggest another one.

Yeah, I guess. Thx for that. But my brain is pretty much standing still now.

 

[Pyritie]

Okay. Did I already mention that I thought up the other ability for lirch too? It's basically an AoE curse. Lirch throws dirt at the target area, blinding all units (it's a small area though, like 100ish).

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Nice idea!What else shall be done?

 

[Pyritie]

Read first post. Hopefully now it should be easier to read.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

ok, i have 8 days free to make your spell Pyrite. I will start now and keep you informed.

 

[Pyritie]

Okay. If you have any questions I'm very good with GUI.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I believe GUI is past, i use JASS =). Besides JASS is a little similar to JAVA, and i can use some concepts as well. It helps me training =).

Btw, can you give me that tutorial website again ?

EDIT
No need, i have found the tutorial again =).

EDIT EDIT

Well, i have finally read the tutorial. It is a nice tutorial in deed. Now that i read it, i will post my method here:
* I will use a global variable for Lirch, the Hero.
*I will use 8 spell books. Each spell book contains a combination of auras and a specific level
*Each Spell book will contain the 2 auras with the same level
*I will create a total 16 auras (if i am not making any mistake), an aura for each level.
*It will have 4 levels as combined
*I will create a dummy ability with 4 levels. each time the player uses that dummy ability, the spell book changes.

My method is more complicated than i initially thought. the spell will work, but it will give a lot of work to implement.
I will try to change this method with further research.

I will keep you guys informed.

 

[Pyritie]

http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php ?

Oh, and you can't change the levels of stuff in a spellbook. You'd have to have a different ability for each "level".

And you're doing the Evil Aura now, right? That's Firch's spell, not Lirch. Yes I know the names are confusing.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

ARRGGHHHH, well, i am making an aura which increases armor and decreases attack, or vice-versa .. loool I just don't seem to get the names of the characters ..

Well, if this is Evil aura, than yes, that is what i am working on lol =)

Oh, and no, that is now the website, it was another one about spell books. No problemo as i have already found it =)

 

[Pyritie]

Yes, that's Firch. And that's his aura.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Hi i have good new.

I think i may have found a way to use only 2 spellbooks and 2 abilities.
This is great because i can avoid creating 5 spellbooks and 25 aura abilities.
However the tests are nor being as successful as i predicted, it seems that warcraft has a bug with spell books, even before they are attached to the unit.

I hope it is the Book ID, because if it is, then i will solve the problem. But if it is not, well, lets just say that i have a major problem on my hands.

 

[Elenai]

Do you already have an orbital bombardment spell, or a massive stampede of energy sort of spell?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Mmm i don't know, but i think that those are not done yet.
Btw Elenai, the "Living Truth" sux a little, but the "Sayings of the True" are 5 starts. Excellent critical sense you had to create that =)

 

[Pyritie]

Hi i have good new.

I think i may have found a way to use only 2 spellbooks and 2 abilities.
This is great because i can avoid creating 5 spellbooks and 25 aura abilities.
However the tests are nor being as successful as i predicted, it seems that warcraft has a bug with spell books, even before they are attached to the unit.

I hope it is the Book ID, because if it is, then i will solve the problem. But if it is not, well, lets just say that i have a major problem on my hands.

Shouldn't be that hard. Like I said you'll have 2 abilities to turn the aura on and off. You'll have 10 more abilities, 5 for the "off" aura and 5 for the "on" aura, one for each level. Then you'll have one spell book.

Evil Aura On 1
Evil Aura On 2
Evil Aura On 3
Evil Aura On 4
Evil Aura On 5
Evil Aura Off 1
Evil Aura Off 2
Evil Aura Off 3
Evil Aura Off 4
Evil Aura Off 5

Then you just set the level of the spell book appropriately.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Actually, i will need 1 spell book for each level. The ability can only be 1. Mm By your post i see you are evaluationg the problem form a different angle.. That might be intesresting.

 

[Pyritie]

Noes, just set Data - Levels to 10 and set Minimum and Maximum to 1. Voila, one spellbook.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Well, to do it your way i would have to create 1 ability for each level....
I am trying to reduce the amount of abilities, the spell is easy to do, but to keep it very simple is becoming a challenge...

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Good news everyone !! I managed to find and remove the spell book bug ! It was created because i used the command "copy-paste" from an older spell book. Therefore the rawcodes could be different, but the game still didn't know which book was which.

Now that i have the change ability ready for level 1, i will increase the code size and make it work for all the 5 levels.
I believe that it's only a matter of time now, until i finish the spell, as i think i have overcome one of my major difficulties.

I'll keep you people in touch.
Oh and btw, i am only using 2 books and 4 spells and 1 dummy ability. Simple don't you think ?
However the code will be BIG. No problem, i have it all commented so everyone can easily understand it.

The final version of the spell will be in a map, with instructions. I will post the spell here.
Note that it is not MUI. To make it MUI would require more coding and take more memory.
The coding wouldn't be the problem, but i believe the memory would.

I will also post the spell in the forum so PurplePoot and other JASS pros may evaluate it and correct it.

 

[Pyritie]

Doesn't need to be MUI as Firch'll be the only one using it.

And good job on that! Excited to see what this is like.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

HII everyon1 !! i have good news for all those who are in the Pyritie's project !!
LOL, well, the alpha version of the Evil aura is finally completed. In this version everything works as it is supposed to, but the script is still basic and not optimized.
Still for all effects the spell is practically ready.

I am working on the beta version now. The beta version will have improved comments, a mini tutorial explaining how to implement the code, and the code will be optimized. I may also add an extra function to correct a small bug (well, i don't consider it a bug because it is not an error, but some people may think that, soi am considering the chance of solving that).

The beta version will also be submitted the THW JASS professionals.

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EDIT

In this alpha version i have:
- 2 triggers with a total of 143 lines (not optimized)
- 4 aura abilities with 5 levels each (stats not optimized)
- 2 books with 5 levels each (stats not optimized)
- 1 dummy ability to make the change (not optimized)

In my beta version (and probably final) i will have:
- 1 trigger with more than 150 lines (to optimize space and running speed)
- 4 aura abilities with 5 levels each (stats optimized)
- 2 books with 5 levels each (stats optimized)
- 1 dummy ability to make the change (optimized)
- A mini tutorial explaining how to implement and use the ability
- a possible "bug" fix

 

[Pyritie]

All I need is the spell. I've imported enough JASS stuff already, I know what I'm doing.

Oh, and Earth-Fury is busy making me a 2D gravity system! Go him!

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Meh, so you wanna see the progress of the spell ? i can post here the alpha version if you want, but i strongly recommend you to wait for my beta version =)

Hope you get happy with my job.

Btw, thx for rep+ m8 =), i've been working hard on this

EDIT

Also, do you think that it would be a good idea to post this spell for THW spell section ?, People would credit your campaign to use it, it would be a good announcement.

Also, see my last post, as i've made a few changes on it.

 

[Pyritie]

Nah, finish the beta first. Then I'll give you some feedback and stuff.

And no problem. You and Mechmap are like the only two beta testers that have been helping a lot.