Scaling an animated model

[Solu9]

Heya

Is it in some way possible to rescale an already animated model in "insert your 3D application of choice", so the keyframes follow?
I remembered too late that attached models in War3 scale with the model if scaled in game. So I would like to rescale the model outside of War3 first.

Right now I need to scale my model to around 0.6 in the editor and any attached model becomes quite small.

 

[Stefan.K]

I don't know if you're asking to do it in a specific program, but you can scale the models along with their bones in Matrix Eater. It won't screw animations.

 

[JesusHipster]

Hey, the easiest way is to create a new bone and a new global animation in magos. Then you attach the root bone to this scale dummy bone you've just created and edit it. Then if you need it to be, let's say 20% bigger and your global anim is 1000 frames long, it should look like:

0: (1.20; 1.20; 1.20)
1000: (1.20; 1.20; 1.20)

(or something very close)

i recommend also scaling the attachement point along with the model (if needed)

 

[Solu9]

Hey, the easiest way is to create a new bone and a new global animation in magos. Then you attach the root bone to this scale dummy bone you've just created and edit it. Then if you need it to be, let's say 20% bigger and your global anim is 1000 frames long, it should look like:

0: (1.20; 1.20; 1.20)
1000: (1.20; 1.20; 1.20)

(or something very close)

i recommend also scaling the attachement point along with the model (if needed)

Uh that sounds like some serious trail and error on my part.
But you also mention scaling attachment points. In theory, and practically, could I simply scale the attachment points in magos and leave the model as it is?

As I wrote.
The model should use a scale of 0.6 - 0.65 in the editor. If I scale the attachment points accordingly in Magos, I guess around 40% bigger, that would do the job?

 

[JesusHipster]

Uh that sounds like some serious trail and error on my part.
But you also mention scaling attachment points. In theory, and practically, could I simply scale the attachment points in magos and leave the model as it is?

As I wrote.
The model should use a scale of 0.6 - 0.65 in the editor. If I scale the attachment points accordingly in Magos, I guess around 40% bigger, that would do the job?

Yeah, 35-40% should do it.

You know, if you pay attention to my unit models you can notice that i always scale someting post-animating with global animations. Sometimes even the bodyparts.

 

[Solu9]

Yeah, 35-40% should do it.

You know, if you pay attention to my unit models you can notice that i always scale someting post-animating with global animations. Sometimes even the bodyparts.

Hm, and that won't mess up the keyframed positions?

 

[JesusHipster]

Why would it if it's a fucking global animation and you are giving scaling to a bone that's never scaled outside of this global animation? And how can it mess up keyframe positions? I think it's enough with the silly questions. You could have tried and tested it like a 1000 times already.

 

[Solu9]

Why would it if it's a fucking global animation and you are giving scaling to a bone that's never scaled outside of this global animation? And how can it mess up keyframe positions? I think it's enough with the silly questions. You could have tried and tested it like a 1000 times already.

Uhm... what the hell just happened?

 

[JesusHipster]

Sorry, that wasn't a proper way to answer your question. Something non-related happened and I lost it just alittle.

The thing is - everything will be ok, this shouldn't harm your keyframes. Each global sequence is separate from the rest of animations.

 

[Solu9]

Sorry, that wasn't a proper way to answer your question. Something non-related happened and I lost it just alittle.

The thing is - everything will be ok, this shouldn't harm your keyframes. Each global sequence is separate from the rest of animations.

That was all I needed to hear

 

[HappyCockroach]

Kind of late reply, but if your only concern is putting the attachments at an appropriate scale, all you should do is scale each of the attachment nodes themselves, through the Global Sequence method JH said.

Scaling the bone_root will scale all attachments as well, so it is no different than changing the Scaling Value in WE.

The "Don't Inherit Scale" checkbox intuitively tells me it would preserve the default scale despite of the animations, and that would be really useful for the attachment scale issue, but sadly it doesn't work as so.

 

[Deleted member 238226]

geoset translation http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=85804

for a really quick job :3