Certain scale of an animation

[Pharaoh_]

Hello,

I am having a problem at the moment. I used a model, of which I removed its Stand animation and renamed its portrait animation to Stand, because this was the animation that I wanted for Stand.

However, I stumbled upon the scale and the camera. As a portrait, it uses a different scale; when I move the model or call another animation, it uses the actual size of the model, but when it stands idle, it gets shrunk. Any idea how to locate the scale and/or camera of this specific animation? I tried Sequence Manager and Node Manager, but I haven't found anything related to it. Additionally, I checked the Camera, there is one, but should I remove it? The model still has a Portrait - Talk animation.

Thanks in advance.

 

[eubz]

It is the main bone that has been scaled. It is if in the portrait animation, the model has different scale, and only in mdlvis or war3 model editor it can be edited.

 

[UgoUgo]

Scaling the model on specific anim
1.Usually a model will have 1 main bone, particularly Bone_Root. However in some cases, the model might have two bone_root, which one of them might be attached to the weapon and another one is the body (Rifleman).

2. Right-click it, and click "Edit node"

3. Click scaling, and you will see a big window (might have weird numbers)

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From what you stated, it seems the sizing problem can be solved this way.

Changing portrait view:
1. Go to Camera Manager,

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Hope I answered your question.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Thank you for the info and screenshots display, but, since I am on my laptop and for some reason, War3 Model Editor doesn't work, do you have an alternative suggestion for MDLVis, just like eubz proposed?

 

[UgoUgo]

It is possible to do the same thing on MDLVis, but Im not sure about the camera. Never figured it out.

Alright, dont expect me to explain all the MDLVis controls, you have to figure out on your own. The interface itself is a lil messier than Magos.

Open your model, and then

On the right console, find the anim you wanted

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Click movement at the upper toolbar

Find the right bone

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Click the scaling button, leave the workplane as it is

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Make sure the red line (on the frames) is at the very first frame

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Now you can start changing the scaling. At the model preview, hold left-click and drag to the left side to shrink it, right side to enlarge it.

 

[eubz]

The scaling thing in mdlvis will go not as you expected because unless you copy the first scale that you have created and paste it at the very end of the animation span, the model will go small, big, small, big and so on; it will go as if the model is pumping like a balloon. This is because of the key frames and the flow of the animation. I don't know if this happens everytime but based on my experience, this occurs on some of my models that requires shrinking and growing the model.

If this happens then you will have to delete all keyframes and create a new animation span similar to the original animation so that the model will not shrink; and this means pain (LOL).

BTW if the portrait and portrait talk animations are in the model itself, please do not delete the camera. You can also rename the portrait animation to "stand portrait" and the portrait talk animation to "stand portrait talk".

 

[UgoUgo]

About the frames,
Actually, if you put the scaling at the very first frame, lets say the frame is (500 - 1500)

If the scaling at 500th is { 1, 1, 1 }, the final frame (1500) will become { 1, 1, 1 } as well. However, magos will not detect the final frame unless you put it manually. But still it works fine in game.

 

[Pharaoh_]

The scaling thing in mdlvis will go not as you expected because unless you copy the first scale that you have created and paste it at the very end of the animation span, the model will go small, big, small, big and so on; it will go as if the model is pumping like a balloon. This is because of the key frames and the flow of the animation. I don't know if this happens everytime but based on my experience, this occurs on some of my models that requires shrinking and growing the model.

If this happens then you will have to delete all keyframes and create a new animation span similar to the original animation so that the model will not shrink; and this means pain (LOL).

Actually, this is exactly what happened. The model kept pumping in-game and I realized that it had to with frames. However, either MDLVis lacks certain functions or I am blind enough not to see fields that you can add scaling values (and not rely on mouse drags for exact scaling).

Edit: UgoUgo has helped me through this. Special thanks to you and appreciation of eubz for baring with me.

Closed.