Rules have to be made visible (in your face)

[deepstrasz]

It's tiring to see people submit maps without a proper description or with the text in other languages and so on and so forth.

The rules need to be visible either before submitting or desirable when/after pressing the submit resource button. The thread with the specific rules should pop up (covering the screen). This would partially lessen the work time of reviewers and moderators (can't do much about people who don't care and upload anyways).
It would be nice if the rules list could be implemented as a have to check before uploading (like some sort of EULA). Also, it would be ideal for a resource to first only be visible to mods and revs before they filter it through to the submissions section (basically, the mods/revs would be able to send a message to the uploader to beat their cheek because they didn't read/respect the rules first and uploaded anyway.

Also, this might be a good idea to be put in the rules list, an example:
Azeroth Grand Prix (EXAMPLE UPLOAD)


These are my 50cents on the matter.

 

[Murlocologist]

No one would pay any more attention. Pop-up rules do nothing but annoy people.

lessen the work time of reviewers and moderators

How much work it takes to post a link of map rules?

 

[deepstrasz]

No one would pay any more attention. Pop-up rules do nothing but annoy people.

It's better than not having a clue about the fact that resource submission is rules based.

How much work it takes to post a link of map rules?

Imagine users not being interested when they see the quality of the description and such. Even if the map would be updated, some might just: "oh I remember that one, it didn't even have a screenshot" and would just skip to the next resource. Seeing the resource near its finality with presentation and all is better than seeing it in all phases. We're not talking about resource development here.
In what the mods/revs are concerned, it would be easier for them if people actually read the rules before uploading, hence no more messages from their behalf like: "your resource needs a better description"' then "your resource still needs that" then "your resource is set to awaiting update" then "your resource is moved to the substandard or approved". That would save a lot of seconds to minutes for each resource. People tend to just rely on what the moderator/reviewer writes and not actually pay attention to the whole deal the rules shout at them. So, they read the first mod/rev post and do something. Then they read the second post and so on until the mod/rev either approves the map or joggles it in Awaiting Update.

 

[Ralle]

Trust me my reviewers and moderators have asked for this many times. I will make it happen. Sorry for the delay .

 

[Emm-A-]

Would it be too harsh to simply delete maps without some defined minimum of description? You could init a warning with a pop up and an automated pm to the respective user in that case...

 

[Heinvers]

The pop-up part is pretty much included as alerts. The little red alerts that you get at the top-right corner.
You also have the pop-up at the bottom right corner of your screen if you're currently scrolling below the mentioned part above.

 

[Ralle]

We can always increase the minimum character length of descriptions to something higher.

 

[Chaosy]

Rather than having a character count which can be abused with [note] I suggest requiring a certain number of bb codes for maps specifically.
Because a proper description will contains dozens of tags.

 

[Ralle]

I disagree. I find the excess use of BB codes in maps disgusting. I don't think it should be a requirement.

 

[Chaosy]

x characters is not a good requirement either.
Can be bypassed with the note tag and it's a very low standard which encourage descriptions like:
"Guyz plz play this map I made!!!
It's an ORPG with great terrain and fun gameplay with many secretz!
Comment so i can c what u think."

That's 133 characters and it basically tells nothing.
Unless you raise the limit to a few thousand characters. (because links etc contains a lot of characters)

At least swag it up with bb codes, I don't see why that would be a bad requirement.

Guyz plz play this map I made!!! It's an ORPG with great terrain and fun gameplay with many secretz! Comment so i can c what u think.​

 

[Ralle]

There will always be a way for people to bypass securities.

 

[deepstrasz]

For some time now [month(s)] new-age resource uploaders (especially in the map section) have made their way to this site. Funny thing is, some of them seem to have beyond 18 years old shown on their profiles (true or not, no idea) and still have it their way. They don't even listen to suggestions form other users and mods/revs. Funny thing is, that some of the map descriptions are in English.

 

[Ralle]

We don't really discuss special cases in public. If you see a problem, please use the report button to let us know. Report his maps.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I think Murlocologist's stance on pop-ups is a bit too pessimistic. A pop-up of some sorts, a checklist or "i am not a robot"-style clicker... Not bad ideas.

I've never uploaded a map, though, so I'm one to talk.

 

[Murlocologist]

Pop-ups are just like ads. They just annoy people, be it a veteran member or user who joined forum 5 minutes ago. There are better restriction possibilities in my opinion if intention is to reduce spamming in maps.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Pop-ups are just like ads. They just annoy people, be it a veteran member or user who joined forum 5 minutes ago.

I disagree.

There are better restriction possibilities in my opinion if intention is to reduce spamming in maps.

Such as?

 

[Murlocologist]

Such as form with must-fill fields that author needs to fill: credits, screenshots, map game play info and other points. Only spammers could bypass a form written descriptions.

 

[deepstrasz]

Such as form with must-fill fields that author needs to fill: credits, screenshots, map game play info and other points. Only spammers could bypass a form written descriptions.

It's what I was trying to imply but that would need proper programming.