Round Table of Arkain

[Boriss]

Sooo, chapter 10 you say. Tell us, are there new models to be seen in this chapter? Both units and buildings? Or will the rosters remain the same?

 

[Championfighter25]

Sooo, chapter 10 you say. Tell us, are there new models to be seen in this chapter? Both units and buildings? Or will the rosters remain the same?

We will see dwarves. And i think since we lack them we may see some new dwarven mechanical units.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

@Shar Dundred Do you plan to make another map like undead chapter two in any of the upcoming books? Meaning something related to realms outside reality, dreams, minds or whatever.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

@Shar Dundred Do you plan to make another map like undead chapter two in any of the upcoming books? Meaning something related to realms outside reality, dreams, minds or whatever.

Venturing into Gardon's mind? Well... On the other hand, I can imagine a mission where we have to get inside Aedale's mind and free her of Lisara, calling upon spirits of virtue, like Largoth called upon the mortal sins.

 

[Championfighter25]

Venturing into Gardon's mind? Well... On the other hand, I can imagine a mission where we have to get inside Aedale's mind and free her of Lisara, calling upon spirits of virtue, like Largoth called upon the mortal sins.

I expect this to be the mission concept of chapter 13, where we maybe redeem Aedale.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Sooo, chapter 10 you say. Tell us, are there new models to be seen in this chapter? Both units and buildings?

Yes.

@Shar Dundred Do you plan to make another map like undead chapter two in any of the upcoming books? Meaning something related to realms outside reality, dreams, minds or whatever.

There are plans to create at least one chapter with similar style, yes.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

There are plans to create at least one chapter with similar style, yes.

Good to hear. I really liked the concept of that map. Also you could use Cripple and Soul Burn to make the last miniboss do 0 damage xD
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/media/...791/full?lightbox=1&last_edit_date=1506975714

 

[LISBOAH]

Good to hear. I really liked the concept of that map. Also you could use Cripple and Soul Burn to make the last miniboss do 0 damage xD
https://www.hiveworkshop.com/media/...791/full?lightbox=1&last_edit_date=1506975714

OMG! I never realized it! XD!
So basically tha supposed boss turns into pretty much a walking wall.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

OMG! I never realized it! XD!
So basically tha supposed boss turns into pretty much a walking wall.

Pretty much. I feel like the hardest encounter in this map is the first one. I always lose someone there for some reason (I think I lost Footman when I played this one, which means Hatred). Maybe it just takes a while to get into the rhythm of controlling all these special units.

 

[Boriss]

Yes.

Ooooh. Im sooo eager to see them!

Anyway, how do you feel? No work/school stress?

 

[Doomcore]

Why does not the cheat 'allyourbasearebelongtous' work? Can you fix it ? I can't finish a mission there and stuck for weeks

 

[Kasrkin]

Cheats are not supported.

 

[Doomcore]

Cheats are not supported.

I'm stuck at the first mission of FHB part.

 

[Championfighter25]

I'm stuck at the first mission of FHB part.

Are you playing it on normal or hard?
This mission is easy, but since you need tips, if you can even call these tips:
-Train a lot of chaplains, you will have access to a fountain of health, but it will not be enough, you need healing on legs too.
-Once the quest that wants you to destroy the purple orc base appears do it immediately, you will get an extra ally that will take some of the pressure off you.
-Build a lot of towers for defense and to have something to protect your workers once orc wind riders begin attacking. That being when you get the quest to destroy the yellow orc base.

 

[Boriss]

Are you playing it on normal or hard?
This mission is easy, but since you need tips, if you can even call these tips:
-Train a lot of chaplains, you will have access to a fountain of health, but it will not be enough, you need healing on legs too.
-Once the quest that wants you to destroy the purple orc base appears do it immediately, you will get an extra ally that will take some of the pressure off you.
-Build a lot of towers for defense and to have something to protect your workers once orc wind riders begin attacking. That being when you get the quest to destroy the yellow orc base.

Come on, god mod cheat isn´t enough? First book isnt THAT hard. Yet.

 

[Doomcore]

Come on, god mod cheat isn´t enough? First book isnt THAT hard. Yet.

I don't like God mode it's so inhumane cheating LoL. Just wanted to play the next mission because I'd been stuck at the first for weeks now Srry I realy get crushed by enemies while I'm still building stuff O.O

Are you playing it on normal or hard?
This mission is easy, but since you need tips, if you can even call these tips:
-Train a lot of chaplains, you will have access to a fountain of health, but it will not be enough, you need healing on legs too.
-Once the quest that wants you to destroy the purple orc base appears do it immediately, you will get an extra ally that will take some of the pressure off you.
-Build a lot of towers for defense and to have something to protect your workers once orc wind riders begin attacking. That being when you get the quest to destroy the yellow orc base.

The god mode is too superb... I mean so cheating and I'm not using that. I just wanted to skip to the next mission because I got so vexed for being stuck for so long haha
I see, I haven't tried the many towers method. LoL.

AND...
I played NORMAL mode. I downloaded the campaign pack some time ago and tried to sneak to play the FHB and yet it happens, I got stuck and can't beat the many bases. Well, I'll try your multiple tower tactic, it's good that towers don't have limits

 

[Ashley]

Why does not the cheat 'allyourbasearebelongtous' work? Can you fix it ? I can't finish a mission there and stuck for weeks

you don't need cheats to finish that chapter, just like championfighter said train bunch of chaplain for healing and also train many knights as you can! you don't necessary need to train crossbowman, their only purpose their is to complete the optional quest and after that you can send them to their deaths and replace them by knights and chaplain. there is also a micro mission in that chapter but you can find fountains of health and mana(expect them to be guarded by some creeps) so your health and mana regen will not going to be a big problem

 

[Shar Dundred]

I really have to give towers food cost on every difficulty.

 

[Doomcore]

you don't need cheats to finish that chapter, just like championfighter said train bunch of chaplain for healing and also train many knights as you can! you don't necessary need to train crossbowman, their only purpose their is to complete the optional quest and after that you can send them to their deaths and replace them by knights and chaplain. there is also a micro mission in that chapter but you can find fountains of health and mana(expect them to be guarded by some creeps) so your health and mana regen will not going to be a big problem

Will check your suggestion out and let's see if I can beat these orc-like guys ^_^

 

[Boriss]

I really have to give towers food cost on every difficulty.

That would be too cruel. I managed to do the 1st mission with just 2-4 towers in a nice chokepoint with that indestructible fence.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

That would be too cruel. I managed to do the 1st mission with just 2-4 towers in a nice chokepoint with that indestructible fence.

If they cost food, then they are not worth making at all. It's always better to mobile units.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I gave you free workers, now it is time to pay the prize! >:-]

 

[Deleted member 238589]

I'd rather pay for workers Making them free made acquiring resources too easy.

 

[Championfighter25]

I'd rather pay for workers Making them free made acquiring resources too easy.

One of the best features of the campaign is to have way bigger battles than normal Warcraft 3. Adding food to towers or making workers cost food will ruin that which i think will destroy a big part of the appeal. But let Shar decide what to do.

 

[Doomcore]

I gave you free workers, now it is time to pay the prize! >:-]

Uhhh you're too hard on us hahaha
Lemme try the mission again. Hope so I finish it right now LoL

 

[Deleted member 238589]

One of the best features of the campaign is to have way bigger battles than normal Warcraft 3. Adding food to towers or making workers cost food will ruin that which i think will destroy a big part of the appeal. But let Shar decide what to do.

I'm not forcing him to do anything, I was just sharing my opinion. Resource management is an important part of this game, and I feel like it would be more fun and challenging to work with limited resources. It's way too easy to amass 20-30k gold and lumber, which means you can replenish your armies easily and brute force your way through every encounter.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

I'm not forcing him to do anything, I was just sharing my opinion. Resource management is an important part of this game, and I feel like it would be more fun and challenging to work with limited resources. It's way too easy to amass 20-30k gold and lumber, which means you can replenish your armies easily and brute force your way through every encounter.

The problem is you dont have much of a choice at this point. The campaign needs you to build sizeable forces to proceed. Sometimes you have to sacrifice your army a few times to get past your enemy and that's why you need workers without food cost(more resource income, a bigger army, towers of course). If they ever get that feature back the concept of warfare in arkainverse has to be redone. Or else it would be way too difficult. I mean very-very difficult. Well, not for Kasrkin, but I am not as good as Kasrkin, unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

The problem is you dont have much of a choice at this point. The campaign needs you to build sizeable forces to proceed. Sometimes you have to sacrifice your army a few times to get past your enemy and that's why you need workers without food cost(more resource income, a bigger army, towers of course). If they ever get that feature back the concept of warfare in arkainverse has to be redone. Or else it would be way too difficult. I mean very-very difficult. Well, not for Kasrkin, but I am not as good as Kasrkin, unfortunately.

I'm aware it's too late to go back to old system, I was just illustrating my point.

 

[Championfighter25]

I'm aware it's too late to go back to old system, I was just illustrating my point.

Although we won't go back to the old system, i think once the massive update that adds the factions is done we may get a revamped system, maybe even way better than the current or old one.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Although we won't go back to the old system, i think once the massive update that adds the factions is done we may get a revamped system, maybe even way better than the current or old one.

What faction update? I haven't heard about this before.

 

[Championfighter25]

What faction update? I haven't heard about this before.

The idea is that in the beginning of a mission you can chose one of a few factions. This will change the gameplay style and add a lot of replayability. Like would you want an very small army, but one composed of your most elite warriors? Would you want a very large army composed of weak troops that can overwhelm your enemy quickly? Or do you want a balanced army, both good in numbers and average in strength?
This will however be added way later, maybe once all campaign are finished. I remember Shar mentioning this a long time ago and saying he will add it.

 

[Ashley]

I gave you free workers, now it is time to pay the prize! >:-]

I've rather pay it with a million life and damage enemies than having a towers with food cost. @Shar Dundred how do you think we can survive tha attack waves in chapter nine of SHB with limited tower, plus the fact that destructor already cost so much foods!!!

 

[Championfighter25]

You sure you want an orc hero like a Blademaster with 1 million health and 1 million damage? Well why doesn't Shar give him 5 items for attack speed and 1 that blocks spell too?
Warning Shar don't implement this idea... oh wait too late for that!
At least make Kasrkin test it first.

 

[Ashley]

You sure you want an orc hero like a Blademaster with 1 million health and 1 million damage? Well why doesn't Shar give him 5 items for attack speed and 1 that blocks spell too?
Warning Shar don't implement this idea... oh wait too late for that!
At least make Kasrkin test it first.

Its hyperbole man.. I hope shar won't take it literally

I just want to say i've most likely want to have and enemy that have more health and damage than having tower with food cost

 

[Shar Dundred]

I just want to say i've most likely want to have and enemy that have more health and damage [REST OF THE POST HAS NOT BEEN READ]

Ok.

 

[Kasrkin]

Max of twenty towers a mission!

 

[DD Mikasa]

Cmon dont give pesanta food cost...As if dealing with three armies pounding us to oblivion is not enough,If you do at least raise the cap at 120 which it could be a reasonable balancing tool...Having to grind out a map for 4 hourse straight is nerv racking as it is crippling the pesants would add another couple of hourse to your maps which i really dont wanna go through...Increased risk of losing another mouse

 

[Championfighter25]

Cmon dont give pesanta food cost...As if dealing with three armies pounding us to oblivion is not enough,If you do at least raise the cap at 120 which it could be a reasonable balancing tool...Having to grind out a map for 4 hourse straight is nerv racking as it is crippling the pesants would add another couple of hourse to your maps which i really dont wanna go through...Increased risk of losing another mouse

I think he won't do it, but i see a revamp of the gameplay later down the line. And please Shar don't add that towers cost food or that you get a max of 20 towers a mission as Kasrkin said.

 

[LISBOAH]

One of the best features of the campaign is to have way bigger battles than normal Warcraft 3. Adding food to towers or making workers cost food will ruin that which i think will destroy a big part of the appeal. But let Shar decide what to do.

Shar has been deciding everything till now and everything has been such a breeze right?

 

[Kasrkin]

Shar has been deciding everything till now and everything has been such a breeze right?

A Deathbreeze

 

[LISBOAH]

A Deathbreeze

If this campaign was like the Deathbreeze clan it would be easy to beat

 

[ArchDuke]

I just wanted to ask Shar whether or not we're to expect new additions to the Ironfist faction

 

[Shar Dundred]

You can expect new Ironfist units.

 

[ArchDuke]

Are you really planning on limiting the amount of towers we can build or giving towers a food cost ? or this just some bizarre joke?

 

[Shar Dundred]

I am planning to make tower spam less effective. I already know a way how to do it - and no, no food cost.
That was just me being evil. Again.
The next update will tell. =)

 

[ArchDuke]

Giving towers a build limit?

 

[DD Mikasa]

Giving towers a build limit?

Removing towers from the game

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

So, let me try to guess. Towers are actually made of paper: heavy armor, 600 HP, mediocre damage, vulnerable to AOE( and since we love to stack em, that's a big thing whenever we encounter heroes with AOE). But why do we love towers? They are quite cheap and easy to rebuild. So it's either build time or cost? My bet is towers gonna get their price increased.

 

[ArchDuke]

The Legends of Arkain wikia needs a serious revamp, otherwise it looks like this:

 

[LISBOAH]

The Legends of Arkain wikia needs a serious revamp, otherwise it looks like this:
View attachment 281430

Hold on...
THESE CAMPAIGNS HAVE A WIKI?!!!!

Why didn't anyone mentioned it previously?!!