Round Table of Arkain

[LISBOAH]

And i wonder why didn't van Durce just kill him at the 1 million opportunities he had?Has he scared the emperor would find out,even though he ordered the assasination?
How many people did he send to there death with this rebellion?

He most likely sent Gardon hoping that the rebels would kill him in the battlefield, thus killing him without giving possible suspicions (an Uriah Gambit you may call) but he underestimated Gardon and his powerful allies (Brian, Thanok, Merlon and Cora).

Van Durce doesn't care about how many have to die. Simple as that.

You know you are a big threat when even the undead mention you before the demons as there primary enemy.Man did he fuck up so bad.

I have a theory that van Durce is being used by this "greater menace", making him look like the Big Bad, when he is merely a decoy and a distraction.

 

[Championfighter25]

I have a theory that van Durce is being used by this "greater menace", making him look like the Big Bad, when he is merely a decoy and a distraction.

van Durce:Gardon you may kill me,but the empire will destroy you
Gardon:After im done with you i will finally finish all pawns
van Durce:You do realise that i had a pawn and i am a pawn of a pawn that is a pawn of another pawn that is a pawn of a pawn of a pawn
Gardon:Wait what?
van Durce:i am the servant of a greater menace
Gardon:So you are the servant of the phantom menace?
van Durce:Hey don't mention bad movies in here
Gardon:It doesn't matter die now
Van Durce:Hehehe i am going to use my last remnants of power to kill you're mentor
Gardon:Fuck,Brian are you okay?
Brian:I AM BRIAN I AM ETERNAL.Wait did i just ruin that line.
Gardon and Durce:Yes you did
Gardon:Now die
*Van durce dies*

Spoiler

Damn that story was a clusterfuck!

 

[LISBOAH]

van Durce:Gardon you may kill me,but the empire will destroy you
Gardon:After im done with you i will finally finish all pawns
van Durce:You do realise that i had a pawn and i am a pawn of a pawn that is a pawn of another pawn that is a pawn of a pawn of a pawn
Gardon:Wait what?
van Durce:i am the servant of a greater menace
Gardon:So you are the servant of the phantom menace?
van Durce:Hey don't mention bad movies in here
Gardon:It doesn't matter die now
Van Durce:Hehehe i am going to use my last remnants of power to kill you're mentor
Gardon:Fuck,Brian are you okay?
Brian:I AM BRIAN I AM ETERNAL.Wait did i just ruin that line.
Gardon and Durce:Yes you did
Gardon:Now die
*Van durce dies*

Spoiler

Damn that story was a clusterfuck!

Cliché...

Or maybe van Durce doesn't even realize that he is being used. Kind of like General Clevehand was being manipulated by Aridon and Largoth.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Van Durce is following orders coming from Emperor Theodor the Second.

 

[LISBOAH]

Van Durce is following orders coming from Emperor Theodor the Second.

I know. And what if the Emperor is being used? There are so many possibilities of who is using who...

 

[Championfighter25]

Van Durce is following orders coming from Emperor Theodor the Second.

And both of them and the empire are being abused by a dark entity of great power.-as said the wise Brian.Who is the dank entity?What is he?Find out on the next episode of Dragon ball Z...i mean chapter on the legends of Arkain.

 

[LISBOAH]

And both of them and the empire are being abused by a dark entity of great power.-as said the wise Brian.Who is he?What is he?Find out on the next episode of Dragon ball Z...i mean chapter on the legends of Arkain.

Please...I bet Shar will let that reveal to the end of this book or to the third books.

 

[Championfighter25]

Please...I bet Shar will let that reveal to the end of this book or to the third books.

This dark entity has to be the final boss of the second book.Time will tell if this prediction is true though.

 

[Kasrkin]

The third books were cancelled we're going into small spin off campaigns after the second books are completed.

 

[LISBOAH]

This dark entity has to be the final boss of the second book.Time will tell if this prediction is true though.

No, I hope this dark entity will be the final boss of the series.

The third books were cancelled we're going into small spin off campaigns after the second books are completed.

NOOOOOO!!

 

[Championfighter25]

@LISBOAH it was already decided a long time ago that they would cancel the third books since the second books offered an ending.Didn't you know?

 

[LISBOAH]

@LISBOAH it was already decided a long time ago that they would cancel the third books since the second books offered an ending.Didn't you know?

I either forgot or kept denying it until I forgot.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Well, look on the bright side:
The Third Books were cancelled long before the announcement for spin off campaigns was made.

We have MANY ideas for such campaigns.

EDIT: I also want to stress that the Third Books are NOT COMPLETELY off the table.
But if they happen, there will be other stuff done first.

 

[Championfighter25]

Well, look on the bright side:
The Third Books were cancelled long before the announcement for spin off campaigns was made.

We have MANY ideas for such campaigns.

EDIT: I also want to stress that the Third Books are NOT COMPLETELY off the table.
But if they happen, there will be spin offs made before.

I have a bad feeling about these campaign,do they include:
-Merlon taking long walks with the lieutenant on the beach?
-Brian and queen Renova's shadow in a shadow dinner?
-Gardon tries to not think about war for 10 seconds?
-Aedale says to her father deep down in my heart i still love you and he cries?
-Thanok wanting to hunt things?
-Cora tries to fill a pool?
-Progaderas appears to troll everyone again?

 

[Deleted member 238589]

The third books were cancelled we're going into small spin off campaigns after the second books are completed.

Smart choice. There's no reason to drag the story so much, especially because of how time consuming each campaign is.

 

[Championfighter25]

@Shar Dundred I have some suggestion for the first human book when you want to update it.Take a look at them and tell me what you think.Again these are just suggestion no need to add any of them.

Spoiler

General
-You may want to give every character a artifact item,sort of how you did in the second book
-Make all rescuable units in the campaign cost no food,because they can really screw up your food cap.You did it for elites in chapter 4 what stops you from doing it for everyone else!
chapter 1
-Nothing that i can think of maybe make on hard difficulty another ally to appear once you destroy the yellow base,but it is unnecessary.
chapter 2
-I know you may have indended it to be this way to separate the AI and the player,but the map is big and the road is long with nothing on it.Add a more few orcs,creep camps,an outpost or something like that to not make it so monotone.
chapter3
-There is no need to make any change to this chapter in my opinion
chapter4
-The retreat option makes this chapter way too short.Add some kind of mini-boss battle before you reach the circle of power that gives a small reward.
-the ironfist Ai has a very strange behavior in this map.When they destroy a certain part of the demons base some stand there,others retreat and come back a few seconds later,some do nothing at all and the worst of all some retreat and never come back.I don't know if you can fix it,but it's annoying.
chapter5
-Make all allies be worth it to actually call.Only Gardon is viable,because he has heavy units that you need,the other allies offer nothing.
chapter 6
-make the door that unleashes the 1 million demons upon you be unbreakable.Seriously!
chapter 7
-Nothing in particular,maybe add more ship types,but it's not needed.
chapter8
-the first option with Gardon and Raszar is very well done,the second with Genethas and Aaron,eh,it's ok,but nothing special
chapter 9
-Maybe you can make the reinforcement waves you get cost no food,since this chapter is hard,they screw up your food cap pretty hard and you don't get them constantly,only 2 times.
chapter10
-there is no need to make any chages to this chapter
chapter11
-Someone already mentioned this,but a lot of the enemy units and yours get stuck.Use the script blizzard made for the TFT orc campaign on chapter 3(the last one),it takes all units you and your enemy have and just sends them to there deaths,so you can call this the van Durce script!

 

[Boriss]

Well, if we are going to suggest improvements, what about a nice narrative? Start and end every chapter with small talk, like if someone is telling the story of this war.

 

[Blake8]

So we finally face van durce and his super-cannon in the next chapter, should be difficult and frustrating... but then again isnt that what arkain is all about

 

[Championfighter25]

So we finally face van durce and his super-cannon in the next chapter, should be difficult and frustrating... but then again isnt that what arkain is all about

It's funny how he didn't use his super canon when we were fighting imperator in chapter 5 or when we assaulted the elven kingdom in chapter 6 and 7.THAT THING CAN FIRE FROM HIS FORTRESS TO THE VOID.That's quite the range.So many oppurtunities..so little brain.

 

[Boriss]

It's funny how he didn't use his super canon when we were fighting imperator in chapter 5 or when we assaulted the elven kingdom in chapter 6 and 7.THAT THING CAN FIRE FROM HIS FORTRESS TO THE VOID.That's quite the range.So many oppurtunities..so little brain.

Linely not finished yet.

 

[Championfighter25]

Linely not finished yet.

Van Durce said in the interlude true colours that while Gardon was fighting demons Lord Marin his engineer had completed his plans and created the canon,so yeah it is finished.But he is van Durce so i can see his reasons for not using it.
Or maybe it malfunctioned and he has to make it again,that is also a possibility.

 

[Boriss]

Van Durce said in the interlude true colours that while Gardon was fighting demons Lord Marin his engineer had completed his plans and created the canon,so yeah it is finished.But he is van Durce so i can see his reasons for not using it.

hm, maybe someone else knockin on the door? after all, we are yet to see the superhuge invasion that sent Aridon runnin for his cake.

 

[Championfighter25]

hm, maybe someone else knockin on the door? after all, we are yet to see the superhuge invasion that sent Aridon runnin for his cake.

Aridon forsaking his duty to guard Arkain to get cake?Sounds like a plan!

 

[Boriss]

Aridon forsaking his duty to guard Arkain to get cake?Sounds like a plan!

Its a special cake, made by Aridon´s grandma herself! The most manipulative cake ever.

 

[Championfighter25]

Its a special cake, made by Aridon´s grandma herself! The most manipulative cake ever.

Guess i gotta make a meme about this now.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The cannon is not ready to unleash hell yet.
It is one of the most expensive and time-consuming projects of the Empire.
In addition, it has to be tested before being used on the battlefield. Else, it could explode
upon use, killing the entire Golden Guard.
I understand that some here woudn't mind about that, but I think you can see why the
Golden Guard and van Durce would mind.

Else Gardon would be dead by now, van Durce maybe many things, but not stupid.

chapter 6
-make the door that unleashes the 1 milion demons upon you be unbreakable.Seriously!

No, I want people to open that door and unleash hell upon themselves! :>

 

[Championfighter25]

They are only going to use it to slow down the demons,that's the sad part.*FACEPALM*

 

[Boriss]

They are only going to use it to slow down the demons,that's the sad part.*FACEPALM*

Well unless it has the rate of fire of a machinegun I dont think that cannon is capable of stopping them. Maybe more like shoot the legion boss so the troops can finish the rest.

 

[Morris]

I finished chapter 7, damn that Brian. I'm intrigued to know what he is exactly, with what transpired I'm starting to believe that he is the unknown voice we hear in the books.
Also, are you going to change chapter 7 into what you originally planned for or will you stick with this one?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Also, are you going to change chapter 7 into what you originally planned for or will you stick with this one?

It will be replaced before the full release.

 

[Boriss]

It will be replaced before the full release.

So there is hope for Larine yet? I find it really odd that if I helped Gardon with Salana and called him to fight with elves in the following chapter that he would still enchant her when taking over the elven kingdom.

 

[DD Mikasa]

The third books were cancelled we're going into small spin off campaigns after the second books are completed.

Spin offs you say?Interesting.Most interesting.
Just asking.Will this spinoffs focus on characters life or on factions or maybe both...Heck maybe this might be a question for Shars Q&A

Edit:Also in a side note whats with all the love for the readhead elf lady...

 

[Championfighter25]

So there is hope for Larine yet? I find it really odd that if I helped Gardon with Salana and called him to fight with elves in the following chapter that he would still enchant her when taking over the elven kingdom.

Salana's amulet is echanted by Gardon way back in chapter 4 of the first book if you help him and thats it.Why would he need to double enchant it?
Yes man maybe your LarinexSalana fanfic may live

 

[LISBOAH]

Salana's amulet is echanted by Gardon way back in chapter 4 of the first book if you help him and thats it.Why would he need to double enchant it?
Yes man maybe your LarinexSalana fanfic may live

How about a "Being loyal to Gardon" update 2.0?

 

[Championfighter25]

How about a "Being loyal to Gardon" update 2.0?

I will just leave this here.
Have fun with the book.
I know there are a few grammar mistakes i made accidentally.Just ignore them.

 

[LISBOAH]

I will just leave this here.
Have fun with the book.
View attachment 276913

HaHAHA!
How do you do this?

 

[Championfighter25]

HaHAHA!
How do you do this?

i just take a photo of an empty book cover and used AddText — Captions for your photos, quick and easy.
Or you can use just any program that allows you to add text to photos and it will have the same results.
Maybe Shar's idea of an Arkain merchandise shop can finally come true!

 

[Boriss]

How about a "Being loyal to Gardon" update 2.0?

Sounds more likely since Gardon enchanted Salana´s necklace quite a while ago so it seems weird that he used its control abilities only so recently. Though if that necklace really was given to Salana´s family by Rahandir...

 

[Championfighter25]

Sounds more likely since Gardon enchanted Salana´s necklace quite a while ago so it seems weird that he used its control abilities only so recently. Though if that necklace really was given to Salana´s family by Rahandir...

That would be interesting.It was given to Salana's parents because of an unknown service they did.Maybe it will be revealed in this or in a spin-off campaign what that service was.Imagine if Rahandir can dispell Gardon's magic because that is his amulet and screwing him that would be funny.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Don't mind this post, I am just re-posting it here since the map section version is currently
not available to public.

Chapter Nine brings the Hate.
Chapter Ten brings the Aid.
Chapter Eleven brings the Desire.
Chapter Twelve brings the Slaughter.
Chapter Thirteen brings the Monster.
Chapter Fourteen brings the Truth.

And there will be an Interlude that brings the Love.

So sayeth the wise Shar Dundred

 

[LISBOAH]

That would be interesting.It was given to Salana's parents because of an unknown service they did.Maybe it will be revealed in this or in a spin-off campaign what that service was.Imagine if Rahandir can dispell Gardon's magic because that is his amulet and screwing him that would be funny.

That would be interesting. Perharps Rahandir showing up before the siege against the queen is not just a coincidence, besides the whole twins thing. He may meet Larine and temporarily ally with her to dispel the magic in the amulet.

 

[Boriss]

That would be interesting. Perharps Rahandir showing up before the siege against the queen is not just a coincidence, besides the whole twins thing. He may meet Larine and temporarily ally with her to dispel the magic in the amulet.

I do not think Rahandir will try to sabotage Gardon. He showed interest in learning about him and Brian in the first undead book and second human book, but I really do not believe his interest is a malevolent one. Not while demons are around.

 

[Championfighter25]

I do not think Rahandir will try to sabotage Gardon. He showed interest in learning about him and Brian in the first undead book and second human book, but I really do not believe his interest is a malevolent one. Not while demons are around.

I think that was Aridon since he wanted to know about the ironfist's every move.But you are right,Rahandir may try to be neutral in all of this,but he has a certain disdain for Gardon,so yeah he may try to kill him once this is all over.
Edit:I forgot that Rahandir had a certain interest in him after Saphira told him about Gardon.

 

[LISBOAH]

I do not think Rahandir will try to sabotage Gardon. He showed interest in learning about him and Brian in the first undead book and second human book, but I really do not believe his interest is a malevolent one. Not while demons are around.

That may be true, but Gardon has proven to be quite a foe, not to mention Rahandir knows that he is a disciple of Brian. Plus, Gardon is now aware that there is a powerful army of undeads out there and will stay cautious.

I think that was Aridon since he wanted to know about the ironfist's every move.But you are right,Rahandir may try to be neutral in all of this,but he has a certain disdain for Gardon.

Rahandir was loyal to Aridon and he might share his master's concerns about Gardon, Brian and the Ironfist. They might turn into an actual threat to him.

 

[Boriss]

That may be true, but Gardon has proven to be quite a foe, not to mention Rahandir knows that he is a disciple of Brian. Plus, Gardon is now aware that there is a powerful army of undeads out there and will stay cautious.



Rahandir was loyal to Aridon and he might share his master's concerns about Gardon, Brian and the Ironfist. They might turn into an actual threat to him.

But Rahandir warned Gardon, he warned him personally while Gardon was imprisoned in Retka´s ex-capital city prison by the undead controlling it.

 

[Championfighter25]

Rahandir was loyal to Aridon and he might share his master's concerns about Gardon, Brian and the Ironfist.

I know this is very far-fetched and just a theory,but imagine if it turns out that Aridon manipulated the king of Rengar(the kingdom where Rahandir is from)to send Rahandir to his death,because he needed a powerful servant to fight the demons.Don't forget that Aridon can erase all of his servants memories,before he revives them.That would be quite the plot twist!
And you are right,Rahandir is his most loyal servant.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I know this is very far-fetched and just a theory,but imagine if it turns out that Aridon manipulated the king of Rengar(the kingdom where Rahandir is from)to send Rahandir to his death,because he needed a powerful servant to fight the demons.

I can confirm that this is NOT the case.

 

[Boriss]

I know this is very far-fetched and just a theory,but imagine if it turns out that Aridon manipulated the king of Rengar(the kingdom where Rahandir is from)to send Rahandir to his death,because he needed a powerful servant to fight the demons.Don't forget that Aridon can erase all of his servants memories,before he revives them.That would be quite the plot twist!
And you are right,Rahandir is his most loyal servant.

It has been said (first meeting of Rahandir by Aedale, said by Rahandir himself) that Rahandir´s own magic revived him. And he recounted quite well the many times he saved his king. So its more likely that Aridon warped his memories much like Aedale´s memories were warped by her demoness girlfriend.

Edit: Oops, while I was typing Shar revealed this is not the case.

 

[Championfighter25]

@Shar Dundred @Boriss Well i already said it was just a theory so it may have been false and as it turns out it is!There is no bad in speculating is there?

 

[LISBOAH]

I know this is very far-fetched and just a theory,but imagine if it turns out that Aridon manipulated the king of Rengar(the kingdom where Rahandir is from)to send him to his death,because he needed a powerful servant to fight the demons.Don't forget that Aridon can erase all of his servants memories,before he revives them.That would be quite the plot twist!
And you are right,Rahandir is his most loyal servant.

Hmm...that is a possibility, but I don't think Aridon would do such thing. After all, he could have waited for Rahandir to die and raised him back.

It has been said (first meeting of Rahandir by Aedale, said by Rahandir himself) that Rahandir´s own magic revived him. And he recounted quite well the many times he saved his king. So its more likely that Aridon warped his memories much like Aedale´s memories were warped by her demoness girlfriend.

I read Rahandir's backstory and it didn't seem that Aridon warped his memories.