Round Table of Arkain

[Shar Dundred]

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Zarin is now the king of the dwarves? When did that happen?

Spoiler

He always was the king of the Dwarves, I just didn't put his title in cinematics in the First Book.

Spoiler: About the Dwarves

You might wanna take into consideration that, in comparison to the Elves, the Dwarves
have a MASSIVE military with tons of experience and lots of siege weapons while Queen
Renova didn't take the measurements neccessary to participate in the war.
Salana is trying to undo this, but the Dwarves are still superior in both numbers and strategy.
In a Elves VS Dwarves scenario, the Elves would be screwed without reinforcements.

 

[LISBOAH]

Spoiler

Looked like some low key "whoever you choose you gonna get rekt anyway" choices. No details about those choices to discuss or to speculate, really. But for the record: I'd go with Golden Guard.

Really?!

Spoiler: About the Dwarves

You might wanna take into consideration that, in comparison to the Elves, the Dwarves
have a MASSIVE military with tons of experience and lots of siege weapons while Queen
Renova didn't take the measurements neccessary to participate in the war.
Salana is trying to undo this, but the Dwarves are still superior in both numbers and strategy.
In a Elves VS Dwarves scenario, the Elves would be screwed without reinforcements.

Spoiler

Good to know...

I always knew that the Dwarves were far more advanced in terms of technology than other races. Though I suppose that they will lack good spellcaster units, right?

And I suppose that dwarves have greater lifespans than both humans and elves, which allowed them to gain more experience in fighting?

 

[Championfighter25]

Really?!

Spoiler

Good to know...

I always knew that the Dwarves were far more advanced in terms of technology than other races. Though I suppose that they will lack good spellcaster units, right?

And I suppose that dwarves have greater lifespans than both humans and elves, which allowed them to gain more experience in fighting?

Spoiler

The lacking of good spell caster units part won't be a problem if we align with the Ironfist. We may not be able to train their spellcasters, but if we coordinate attacks it shouldn't be a problem

 

[Shar Dundred]

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Though I suppose that they will lack good spellcaster units, right?

And I suppose that dwarves have greater lifespans than both humans and elves, which allowed them to gain more experience in fighting?

Spoiler

The next chapter will tell, remember the runepriest hero standing there?

Dwarves have the same lifespan as Elves - so pretty long, much longer than Humans'.

 

[DD Mikasa]

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Gotta love this.Midgets are as pragmatic as ever and this situation plays totally in their favor.Maybe they can leeche off even more from either GG or IF after the "vermin" issue has been delt with.

One simple question i had.
Sinc Zarin worked with Salana,whome on her part was an ally of Gardon are we to expect even more severe penalties/higher gains if we are to ally with Gardon?

 

[Emperor Lucas II]

Spoiler

Vermin?

Skaven in Arkain?

 

[Shar Dundred]

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One simple question i had.
Sinc Zarin worked with Salana,whome on her part was an ally of Gardon are we to expect even more severe penalties/higher gains if we are to ally with Gardon?

I am not sure I understand your question.

Spoiler

Skaven in Arkain?

No.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Besides the usuall lose/gain situation we have on our hands.

Will we take a greater hit if we choose to ally GG or take a greater bonus if we chose to ally IF,because of Zarins past(he did work with Salana whome is a puppy of Gardon).So naturally his men "might" be more reluctant fighting against former allies.

 

[Shar Dundred]

At that point, there was only one human faction (not counting the demon slaves).
Both Elves and Dwarves were allied to that Human faction, not to one particular member.

Also, remember the final mission of the First Human Book, Zarin would easily battle both Salana
and Gardon if the player sided with Genethas.

 

[DD Mikasa]

So that means more or less his loyalty was to Blen and his faction.
Got it.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Announcement:
Arkain Industries is working full speed before a short Christmas break!
We aim to finish & test the next chapter before the holidays and will then pause progress until the new year!
Stay tuned for the final torment of 2017!

Should we not manage to finish the next chapter before Christmas, we will NOT take a break until it is finished!

 

[Championfighter25]

Great news!
Also don't forget to pay your hard working cannon fodder extra money or take it from them. It's up to you.

 

[LISBOAH]

Announcement:
Arkain Industries is working full speed before a short Christmas break!
We aim to finish & test the next chapter before the holidays and will then pause progress until the new year!
Stay tuned for the final torment of 2017!

Should we not manage to finish the next chapter before Christmas, we will NOT take a break until it is finished!

You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I'm telling you why
Chapter Ten is coming to town

Shar is preparing it
And checking it twice
Gonna post it soon
Chapter Ten is coming to town

 

[subzz]

You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I'm telling you why
Chapter Ten is coming to town

Shar is preparing it
And checking it twice
Gonna post it soon
Chapter Ten is coming to town

When? When??

 

[Shar Dundred]

@subzz

Announcement:
Arkain Industries is working full speed before a short Christmas break!
We aim to finish & test the next chapter before the holidays and will then pause progress until the new year!
Stay tuned for the final torment of 2017!

Should we not manage to finish the next chapter before Christmas, we will NOT take a break until it is finished!

 

[DD Mikasa]

Oh lovely!

 

[Boriss]

Sweet mother, sweet mother,
send your child unto me,
for the sins of the (golden guard)
must be baptised in blood and fear

and if it happens that you have dovahkiin there, send him too,
gonna be a lot of shouting and flaming around here soon

 

[subzz]

Sweet mother, sweet mother,
send your child unto me,
for the sins of the (golden guard)
must be baptised in blood and fear

and if it happens that you have dovahkiin there, send him too,
gonna be a lot of shouting and flaming around here soon

Wow!!! someone please give him a cookie.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Is the faction update coming out alongside new chapter?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Doing good progress on Chapter Ten.
I am optimistic we can release the chapter as planned.

Is the faction update coming out alongside new chapter?

Ironfist and Golden Guard units, you mean? Yes.
If we're talking about the big faction system, though... No. Absolutely not.

 

[Championfighter25]

Is the faction update coming out alongside new chapter?

I really doubt it.

 

[Daffa]

That thing was like after the book is done AFAIR.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Doing good progress on Chapter Ten.
I am optimistic we can release the chapter as planned.


Ironfist and Golden Guard units, you mean? Yes.
If we're talking about the big faction system, though... No. Absolutely not.

Yeah, I meant the new units. It would be silly to expect an enormous update such as the faction system that soon.

 

[DD Mikasa]

You know it recently came to my attation(due to re-playing the first HU book) that Sir Lerring and his army aren't that incompetent as they seem to be and that genuinely that he,like most of the other guys was trickt by Genethas.Kinda bummed seeing him go that early on book 2.
Whats everyones though on him.

 

[Championfighter25]

You know it recently came to my attation(due to re-playing the first HU book) that Sir Lerring and his army aren't that incompetent as they seem to be and that genuinely that he,like most of the other guys was trickt by Genethas.Kinda bummed seeing him go that early on book 2.
Whats everyones though on him.

You can keep him alive if even one of your non-hero units reaches the base in chapter 1. I wonder if we spare him when will he come back?

 

[DD Mikasa]

I ment as in he does not make a comeback later on(yet),I know he can be kept alive if our golden guard companions fail to survive during the road.

 

[LISBOAH]

You know it recently came to my attation(due to re-playing the first HU book) that Sir Lerring and his army aren't that incompetent as they seem to be and that genuinely that he,like most of the other guys was trickt by Genethas.Kinda bummed seeing him go that early on book 2.
Whats everyones though on him.

He gets tricked by Genethas and joins him.

On the second book, he leads an assault on the demons and only he survives. Then he has the nerve of acting like he is the good guy and Gardon is the villain, even though he was on the side of a traitor.
I felt no regret in watching him die.

You can keep him alive if even one of your non-hero units reaches the base in chapter 1. I wonder if we spare him when will he come back?

I hope not.
If he returns, I hope he appears as an enemy, so that we have the chance of killing him.

 

[Championfighter25]

On the second book, he leads an assault on the demons and only he survives.

The worst part is that he lost half of the base's garrison and only destroyed 3 demon gates. That just proves how bad he is ( in my opinion)

I hope not.
If he returns, I hope he appears as an enemy, so that we have the chance of killing him.

I think he will return. Where can he really run?
I bet we will face him in chapter 11. (if we spared him of course)

 

[DD Mikasa]

In fact he acknowledges the fact he got tricked and lets be honest for every new timer of this campaign there is a 50/50 chance of him getting tricked by Genethas as well.On the part about him screwing up i agree.

Let's not forget even Gardon (before the whoal deal with Genethas) gave him some credit as a general by asking him on war related stuff(partly maybe cuz of Blenn absence).He together with Blen took down Darkmind pillagers even tho it seems like(based on Rath's hatred towards Blen)Blenn did play a larger role on taking down Darkmind.
He also urges you to stay away from the unknown base (which i assume were in fact Imperials send on a mission) and lastly assuming you dont join Genethas side as Blen he himself will help Genethas taking down both the pit lord and Aaron.

Just food for thought.Imo.

Edit:
@Championfighter25 He does state that that branch of Royal Fists to a degree refused to work with him.

 

[gendac]

i wanna kill van druce so much gardon is best char

 

[Krogoth]

Hi!
I am not playing your map because it takes so much time but I am used to watch playthrough in a parallel window. (With voice-over )
Because the story is good and I like the scale of game. You make grand strategy with strong story-telling - that is good point.
Though, I did not like how strong Destructors are (in few last missions). They wreck very hard. That's pretty much their job but would be better to give them more down-side or counter them at some point. There are usually many bases so 1 of them can have very strong anti-air.
I would like to see how each enemy (even low tier) is troublesome in his own way (mainly because I am not playing, I am just watching ).

 

[subzz]

Hi!
I am not playing your map because it takes so much time but I am used to watch playthrough in a parallel window. (With voice-over )
Because the story is good and I like the scale of game. You make grand strategy with strong story-telling - that is good point.
Though, I did not like how strong Destructors are (in few last missions). They wreck very hard. That's pretty much their job but would be better to give them more down-side or counter them at some point. There are usually many bases so 1 of them can have very strong anti-air.
I would like to see how each enemy (even low tier) is troublesome in his own way (mainly because I am not playing, I am just watching ).

Please don't give him ideas. I play campaigns please don't make it hard for us.

P.S: Those destructors and elites are ridiculously expensive.

 

[DD Mikasa]

@Krogoth

Are we supposed to beat our enemys with Sticks and Harsh words now?

 

[Krogoth]

Fortunately, I have an idea for Destructors: they could be attacked by Catapults and Cannon Towers (taking siege-to-fortified damage) because they seem exceptionally big and that MUST make some disadvantage. If the base is heavily guarded by Cannon Towers then you must wipe them with Catapults first. (Might be a good spot somewhere)

@KrogothAre we supposed to beat our enemys with Sticks and Harsh words now?

Just make long play a little bit more rewarding then.
Once game gets more content, you will not complain about putting more effort into it.
It is beta, isn't it?
So let the idea live for future.

 

[Championfighter25]

Destructors are 12 food so if you want to spam them that isn't possible. Also they can easily be taken out from ranged units now that their armour type is changed.

 

[Daffa]

Fortunately, I have an idea for Destructors: they could be attacked by Catapults and Cannon Towers (taking siege-to-fortified damage) because they seem exceptionally big and that MUST make some disadvantage. If the base is heavily guarded by Cannon Towers then you must wipe them with Catapults first. (Might be a good spot somewhere)


Just make long play a little bit more rewarding then.
Once game gets more content, you will not complain about putting more effort into it.
It is beta, isn't it?
So let the idea live for future.

Considering it's a 12 food unit, it only punishes players for no real benefit. I'm unsure if what you watch already reflect this update.

 

[DD Mikasa]

Fortunately, I have an idea for Destructors: they could be attacked by Catapults and Cannon Towers (taking siege-to-fortified damage) because they seem exceptionally big and that MUST make some disadvantage. If the base is heavily guarded by Cannon Towers then you must wipe them with Catapults first. (Might be a good spot somewhere)


Just make long play a little bit more rewarding then.
Once game gets more content, you will not complain about putting more effort into it.
It is beta, isn't it?
So let the idea live for future.

First of all your imput aint vaild at all(regarding game balance issues).You yourself have not played the game.Playing it with just watching it are two different things.
Second ITS 12 FOOD COST.At best you can build up to 5(thats 60 food taken) the rest go into heros and troops to defend your base.
Third. TOWERSPAM is getting nerfed>much more troops to defend your base.
Fourth.The maps are hard as it is.If you want variety on gameplay then,either other unites have to get buffed,or the enemys must be nerfed.

Yeah we joke about Shar planing new ways to makes us suffer but there is a fine line on being hard and BEING unplayable.Let's not forget your avarage hiver that visits the campaign section aint coming here for a hardcore melee experience,he'd rather play a map that has dynamic and enjoyable gameplay and a good story rather go through a grind fest of five hours.

 

[Championfighter25]

@DD Mikasa I'd like to correct you on one thing. Heroes in every Arkain campaign cost no food.
Other than that for everything else you are right.

 

[Shar Dundred]

No offense but I find it hard to take gameplay feedback from someone who didn't play the campaign seriously.
Watching someone play it is not the same as playing it, people who spend much time watching
Let's Plays on YT tend to forget that.

 

[DD Mikasa]

@Championfighter25
Shar Dundred aint that evil after all I guess.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Shar Dundred aint that evil after all I guess.

Great, now I have to make EVERYTHING cost food.
Everyone blame Mikasa for any update delays...

(jk)

 

[DD Mikasa]

Great, now I have to make EVERYTHING cost food.
Everyone blame Mikasa for any update delays...

May god have mercy upon our souls.

 

[LISBOAH]

May god have mercy upon our souls.

And our damned souls will haunt you for all eternity!

 

[Boriss]

And our damned souls will haunt you for all eternity!

Better we take shifts to haunt him nonstop rather than just haunt him all at once for 8 hours a day.

 

[DD Mikasa]

*Researches Magic Sentry* HA cant haunt me now.

 

[Boriss]

*Arcane Tower SPAM* HA cant haunt me now.

*magic immunity* you are so screwed man
anyway, I do feel like we could use a unit with pretty big magic damage attack
anything of this sort coming in Shar?

 

[Shar Dundred]

anyway, I do feel like we could use a unit with pretty big magic damage attack

Why?

 

[DD Mikasa]

We got the Gryphones of the dwarves...Talking about Dwarves.

@Shar Dundred You did mention that Dwarves numbers were very big,as well they were really well militerized.
Say could Dwarves pose a direct threat to Gardon's Kingdom?
I mean just Dwarves and Gardon without the Golden Guard or Empire involved.

 

[Boriss]

Why?

I feel like the loss of Gryphon riders is a very painful one. And since we dont have very many air units to utilize... (except for those not really good for making attack waves skyships).

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

We lack air units in general. But many levels are built in a way that you are passing it stage by stage, conquering one base, establishing new outpost and moving further so I find it even at a point.