Round Table of Arkain

[LISBOAH]

Shar mentioned something bout a new interlude, where you could make choices of 1st book w/o actually replaying it, like in Mass Effect or The Witcher.

Damn it @LickMyEyeBall don't ruin the fun of replaying the first books!

 

[Championfighter25]

Damn it @LickMyEyeBall don't ruin the fun of replaying the first books!

Are you insane? Do you really want to replay chapter 5 and 9 again? Well i wish you luck! DO IT!

 

[LISBOAH]

Are you insane? Do you really want to replay chapter 5 and 9 again? Well i wish you luck! DO IT!

Well, Shar will most likely do major updates to the first books after finishing the seconds so...

 

[Morris]

Shar mentioned something bout a new interlude, where you could make choices of 1st book w/o actually replaying it, like in Mass Effect or The Witcher.

I'll act like I did not see that

 

[Championfighter25]

Well, Shar will most likely do major updates to the first books after finishing the seconds so...

I imagine it being something like this:

Spoiler: Version 3.0

Chapter 1-increased difficulty
Chapter 2-increased difficulty
Chapter 3-increased difficulty
Chapter 4-increased difficulty
Chapter 5- increased difficulty
Chapter 6- increased difficulty
Chapter 7- increased difficulty
And so on.. Do you really want this?

 

[Morris]

I imagine it being something like this:

Spoiler: Version 3.0

Chapter 1-increased difficulty
Chapter 2-increased difficulty
Chapter 3-increased difficulty
Chapter 4-increased difficulty
Chapter 5- increased difficulty
Chapter 6- increased difficulty
Chapter 7- increased difficulty
And so on.. Do you really want this?

Yup.

 

[Kasrkin]

I imagine it being something like this:

Spoiler: Version 3.0

Chapter 1-increased difficulty
Chapter 2-increased difficulty
Chapter 3-increased difficulty
Chapter 4-increased difficulty
Chapter 5- increased difficulty
Chapter 6- increased difficulty
Chapter 7- increased difficulty
And so on.. Do you really want this?

Yes

 

[Championfighter25]

Yes

Well i can't imagine any difficulty increase for you to be a problem. Maybe sometimes you should write a book named:
3000 pages of Arkain tips. How to not get destroyed on easy.
Im sure it will be a hit! It may even "shatter their sky" as they say.

 

[Blake8]

@Shar Dundred and @Kasrkin If you want the last mission to be (or rather seem) really difficult do this:

Let's say you got a difficulty scale of 1 to 20

mission 9 - 11/20
mission 10 - 12/20
mission 11 - 13/20
mission 12 - 14/20
mission 13 - 15/20
mission 14 - 19/20

whichever mission has the big jump of difficulty will be the one that the player considers the hardest one, it doesn't have to do with how difficult the mission itself is, rather how difficult the mission is in comparison with the previous chapter, psychological that's what we tend to think of as the hardest mission

This is why at times the second to last mission is considered to be the hardest, its a lot harder than the previous mission, and even though the last mission might be harder than the second to last the jump in difficulty is smaller and thus the player believes that the second to last mission is the hardest

Basically if

mission 8 - 15/20
mission 9 - 18/20
mission 10 - 19/20

the player will tend to think that the penultimate mission is the hardest

however if

mission 8 - 15/20
mission 9 - 16/20
mission 10 - 19/20

the player will recognize the last mission as being the hardest

td;dr whichever mission causes the player to have to step it up in a big fashion will be the one considered the hardest

 

[Boriss]

Yes

Kas maybe you wanna slow down with the increasing difficulty. Or we will have you do undead book on hard

 

[Championfighter25]

Kas maybe you wanna slow down with the increasing difficulty. Or we will have you do undead book on hard

We all know that for Kasrkin hard is too easy. But what if for him easy is too hard? Dun, dun, dun!
Also Boriss if you are that good with undead in melee go for it! Make your dream come true!

 

[Blake8]

Kasrkin has too much free time....probably has a real easy semester...lucky fucker

 

[Shar Dundred]

@Kasrkin used to play the entire series on Hard until a certain mission in the First Undead Book.

 

[Championfighter25]

@Kasrkin used to play the entire series on Hard until a certain mission in the First Undead Book.

Was it the final chapter or way earlier?

 

[Blake8]

Maybe the boat chapter....I hate sea warfare

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Maybe the boat chapter....I hate sea warfare

Yeah, good thing there aren't too many of those. Though I liked the chapter in which Admiral Seabright was introduced. Apart from being able to snipe demons using ships, it was pretty good.

 

[Morris]

Maybe the boat chapter....I hate sea warfare

I don't think so
That chapter in the undead book was easy compared to its versions in the human and orc books.
I wager on the chapter where u have to kill Heinvers or the one where you have to collect artifiacts from the demon slaves

 

[LISBOAH]

I don't think so
That chapter in the undead book was easy compared to its versions in the human and orc books.
I wager on the chapter where u have to kill Heinvers or the one where you have to collect artifiacts from the demon slaves

The undead mission with the boats was quite easy. All we have to deal are some occasional demonic attacks and imperial aerial attacks. A pity the human and orc fleets are just standing there rather than attacking each other.

The mission against the Forgotten Ones was tough and I had to go many times to blighted areas to heal my units.

The mission with the artifacts was also quite hard, but because of the bases and not the mission itself. All we have to do is attack the holders while they are traveling.

 

[Championfighter25]

The undead mission with the boats was quite easy. All we have to deal are some occasional demonic attacks and imperial aerial attacks. A pity the human and orc fleets are just standing there rather than attacking each other.

Agreed. if you really want to you can make it hard on yourself by attacking and destroying the enemy land bases, but there is no need.

The mission with the artifacts was also quite hard, but because of the bases and not the mission itself. All we have to do is attack the holders while they are traveling.

I found it more time consuming than hard.

 

[Boriss]

Every second mission in those books is time consuming, like 2-4 hours per mission. Thats what I think is nice. Its not superhard time pressin, you can take your time, think about your approach, use weaknesses etc.

 

[Daffa]

Try checking the eight chapter. The one with dwarves everywhere.

 

[Morris]

Try checking the eight chapter. The one with dwarves everywhere.

That one wasn't hard.just time consuming
Those banshees helped a lot and possessing the light blue imperial captain makes.it easier.
Just spam.banshees, control as many as you can then make an all out assault on the iron fist.
The last mission,well is normal difficulty. Your allies help a lot

 

[Championfighter25]

That one wasn't hard.just time consuming
Those banshees helped a lot and possessing the light blue imperial captain makes.it easier.
Just spam.banshees, control as many as you can then make an all out assault on the iron fist.
The last mission,well is normal difficulty. Your allies help a lot

The funny thing about the last mission in the undead book is that you cannot lose. Well Shar said if you chose the option to be "defeated" you will get a serious punch in the face right in the beginning of the second undead book. Wonder what that will be?

 

[LISBOAH]

The funny thing about the last mission in the undead book is that you cannot lose. Well Shar said if you chose the option to be "defeated" you will get a serious punch in the face right in the beginning of the second undead book. Wonder what that will be?

Spoiler

Hmm
-If we get "defeated", the demons will get closer to Death Mountain?
-We will have to deal with the Blooddrinker Legion as well?

 

[Championfighter25]

Spoiler

Hmm
-If we get "defeated", the demons will get closer to Death Mountain?
-We will have to deal with the Blooddrinker Legion as well?

Spoiler

I quickly replayed the chapter and killed Aridon. Oh Ornassion thought he had him defeated, Aridon just came back, cast lighning bolt and we still won.The second option is the most believeable one. Souleater and Blooddrinker legion in the same mission oh no, no no no no no hell no! And not to mention since Aridon got defeated he may have lost a large part of his power. I feel like this will be amazing! Just another reason to replay the mission and quickly revert my choice before i get my soul eaten!

 

[Boriss]

Come on maaaan, I have just ran down the whole blood elf camp by tomoraider, I have nothing more to play! I neeeeed that chapter 9 or im gonna bleed out that excitement all over my place!

 

[LISBOAH]

Come on maaaan, I have just ran down the whole blood elf camp by tomoraider, I have nothing more to play! I neeeeed that chapter 9 or im gonna bleed out that excitement all over my place!

Shar is expecting this reaction of ours.
He feeds of our anxiety and desire to play, and later he will feed of our hatred and anger!

 

[Colonel Aster]

how long do we have to wait to see Van durce put his cannon in action

 

[Lord Aiden]

Shar is teasing you guys, you will hate the map because you'll have to retake 3 quarters of it in a similar fashion that chapter 4 was won

 

[Shar Dundred]

I didn't know that you had knowledge about the map prior to its release.

 

[Lord Aiden]

You mentioned this yourself

 

[Boriss]

You mentioned this yourself

I dont remember him saying anything like that. Shar is very much smoke and mirror here. That is part of the magic of this campaign.

 

[LISBOAH]

I know this will sound off topic since we are talking about the second human book, but I decided to put this before I forget.
While Aridon is the practically the Avatar of Death, how come does he have a lightning spell?
Just saying.

 

[Championfighter25]

I know this will sound off topic since we are talking about the second human book, but I decided to put this before I forget.
While Aridon is the practically the Avatar of Death, how come does he have a lightning spell?
Just saying.

This is a thread is about everything Arkain related be it 1st, 2nd or even the 1 millionth human book, so i cannot call this off topic.
Anyway there may be a reason, but i think Shar just put it for him to have a single target spell.

 

[wQrEt]

You must be fun at parties

 

[Boriss]

I know this will sound off topic since we are talking about the second human book, but I decided to put this before I forget.
While Aridon is the practically the Avatar of Death, how come does he have a lightning spell?
Just saying.

You think lightning isnt deadly enough? Maybe he should switch into lighting business then

 

[Championfighter25]

You think lightning isnt deadly enough? Maybe he should switch into lighting business then

im just gonna leave this here

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

If I were you, i'd rather complain bout Scarlet Retka's skill set.

 

[Boriss]

Yeah I picked the girl to spare her the executioner´s axe. But Aedale´s sister is a family. It is such a dilemma! Is there a way to keep Scarlet alive (like a military barmaiden?) while having Aedale´s sis in our ranks?

 

[Championfighter25]

Yeah I picked the girl to spare her the executioner´s axe. But Aedale´s sister is a family. It is such a dilemma! Is there a way to keep Scarlet alive (like a military barmaiden?) while having Aedale´s sis in our ranks?

Nope. Either Scarlet or Cora. You decide.
Also this reminds me her E doesn't display numbers correctly. Shar you may want to fix that

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Yeah I picked the girl to spare her the executioner´s axe. But Aedale´s sister is a family. It is such a dilemma! Is there a way to keep Scarlet alive (like a military barmaiden?) while having Aedale´s sis in our ranks?

Yeah, keeping her seems storywise, but damn her combat skills are so underwhelming. I mean Cora has blizzard, Cora has a damn lightning with 450 damage and 5 sec stun. And what does Scarlet possess? Silence and sleep. You know, i'd get over silence, but we get a staff of silence the very mission we get to play Scarlet, which is...well, renders her first ability kinda useless. I mean her spell has superior duration, but I sacrificed Cora for her. Sleep, well sleep is sleep. Her ultimate is strong though, but that's pretty much her only advantage.

 

[Boriss]

Nope. Either Scarlet or Cora. You decide.
Also this reminds me her E doesn't display numbers correctly. Shar you may want to fix that

There goes my Scarlet x Lera fanfic

 

[LISBOAH]

Yeah, keeping her seems storywise, but damn her combat skills are so underwhelming. I mean Cora has blizzard, Cora has a damn lightning with 450 damage and 5 sec. And what does Scarlet possess? Silence and sleep. You know, i'd get over silence, but we get a staff of silence the very mission we get to play Scarlet, which is...well, renders her first ability kinda useless. I mean it has superior duration, but I sacrificed Cora for her. Sleep, well sleep is sleep. Her ultimate is strong though, but that's pretty much her only advantage.

Cora is a high ranking member of the Imperial Army, so she must have received better training than Scarlet. She was trained to fight at the frontlines, while Scarlet was a noble.

 

[Championfighter25]

Cora is a high ranking member of the Imperial Army, so she must have received better training than Scarlet.

Spoiler

And there goes the entire line:
''she is a powerful magician- maybe even more powerful than you''
Guess Thanok was wrong. Very wrong.

 

[Boriss]

Cora is a high ranking member of the Imperial Army, so she must have received better training than Scarlet. She was trained to fight at the frontlines, while Scarlet was a noble.

Nobles are often way better at infiltration, espionage and backdoor deals. Put a guard asleep while sifting through rival noble´s room? Priceless.
Cora is a high damage cannon but she loses mana fast. Scarlet is more of picking key targets, putting them asleep...

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Cora is a high ranking member of the Imperial Army, so she must have received better training than Scarlet. She was trained to fight at the frontlines, while Scarlet was a noble.

Well, that's reasonable and all, but couldnt the trade be a little bit less onesided? Besides, even Thanok implies Scarlet is a superior mage.

 

[Championfighter25]

Well, that's reasonable and all, but couldnt the trade be a little bit less onesided? Besides, even Thanok implies Scarlet is a superior mage.

I think her biggest problem is her title "chaos bringer". Only her ult comes close to that. Maybe Shar can give her a different Q and W to fit her title better? A chaos mage with silence and sleep just doesn't sound right.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Oh, I will take a closer look at her abilities.

Remember that you still gotta fight her in Chapter Five, though...

 

[LISBOAH]

Oh, I will take a closer look at her abilities.

Remember that you still gotta fight her in Chapter Five, though...

Just for you all to know, I wasn't the one who brought the Scarlet topic into this conversation
I was talking about Aridon.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Still, a powerful Scarlett affects all of you. >:-]
Right, his lightning ability, wasn't it?

Spoiler

The idea behind this was that one of the dead gods whose powers created the Avatar
of Death was the God of Lightning.