Progress

[-Kobas-]

Progress... Sunday, February 20 2011 11:14

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Item Class System Finished!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Mmmh interesting.

 

[-Kobas-]

Progress... Sunday, February 20 2011 16:30

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Created few uncommon items and added them to system.

EDIT:

Progress... Sunday, February 20 2011 16:37

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All gem items are created!

 

[baassee]

1% Bash for the Perfect Axe? Last I checked Critical Strike it wouldn't work below a certain value (something around 3% I think). Dunno if this applies for other passives. On the other hand, great job.

 

[-Kobas-]

Hero start with bash, critical and evasion value set to 5% or more (depend on class, birth sign and specialization)...
So +1% or iron should work. We will have legendary items that increase chances by up to 10%

 

[baassee]

Oh I see. Well then it isn't a problem I guess

 

[-Kobas-]

Progress... Sunday, February 20 2011 17:48

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Interiors are finished, here you go some pictures!

 

[Tleno]

Great interiors! Though I wouldn't mind some round carpet or whatever in that tavern or whatever...

 

[-Kobas-]

Ahahaha well mas miss large number of interior resources, will add them in future

Progress... Sunday, February 20 2011 22:38

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Uncommon items are nearly finished, just polishing and descriptions left

EDIT:

Monday, February 21 2011 02:30

Progress... Thursday, May 12 2011 01:03

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Item Descriptions are fixed, gold cost calculated, few bugs with items fixed.
Tomorrow I guess: Creating systems for displaying story and working on finishing items for demo version!

EDIT 2:

Progress... Monday, February 21 2011 14:08

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Working on mixed interior and dungeon like terrain
Main story Quest related!
Check Attached image

 

[Raven0]

Hero start with bash, critical and evasion value set to 5% or more

I'm pretty sure I remember apocolypse doing some testing in the help section and discovering that warcraft always rounds crit, bash, and evasion values to the nearest 5%. So crit values and the such will never be fully accurate.

 

[Tleno]

Wait, so they can be increased only by 5% each level/effect/whatever to work as supposed?
But wait, if there will be items and stuff able to effect these passive abilities, it means they'll be trriger based, right?

 

[-Kobas-]

Don't worry guys, it work great, you will see if you don't believe me

 

[baassee]

Wait a second, round off? What? How in the hell did you test that? I've read somewhere that the WC3 engine got a special feature about chance passives.

So it works like this if I'm remember correctly.

If there is a chance of 20%, if the first strike fails, the next will have a greater chance than 20% meaning of there will always be a chance to crit which will be larger for every hit.

Although this doesn't apply to triggered crits as GetRandomInt/Real doesn't work like that.

(I think I read it at playdota.com but I'm not sure)

 

[-Kobas-]

Progress... Tuesday, February 22 2011 02:14

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Created first main story quest, yay
I will only tell you it's name "Beast of the Shadows".
Also I finished some terrain polishing (Misty Cave dungeon is now completed).
Added abilities to food items.
Removed testing triggers.

Wait a second, round off? What? How in the hell did you test that? I've read somewhere that the WC3 engine got a special feature about chance passives.

So it works like this if I'm remember correctly.

If there is a chance of 20%, if the first strike fails, the next will have a greater chance than 20% meaning of there will always be a chance to crit which will be larger for every hit.

Although this doesn't apply to triggered crits as GetRandomInt/Real doesn't work like that.

(I think I read it at playdota.com but I'm not sure)

It will round numbers (1,2,2.4 = 0% : 2.5,4.5,7.4 = 5% ... 97.5 = 100%)
But if you look at large number of attacks like 1000, this is 99% true.
Still 8% critical will act random for 20 or 30 attacks.
In other words 10% critical isn't 9/10 normal + 1/10 critical attack.

But even if testing maps are wrong, and same like experiments fail, hero will start with 5% critical in worst case, few items can increase it by 1,2, maybe more, some abilities as well and so on, together numbers can set chance values to 15% or 20% or ...

To make it simple maybe (+1%) critical don't work but 2 x (+1%) critical can work

 

[baassee]

Trigger it and it will solve every man's problems.

 

[-Kobas-]

There is no problem, I told ya t work fine ♥
Btw.

Progress... Tuesday, February 22 2011 13:47

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Minimap image is finished (If you ask why, well to hide dungeons and systems )

White color is alpha channel = real minimap

Another cool thing is teleport system.
It works error-less

Oh, I fixed food items so now hero can eat them with bag if he want ^^.

Added Talk ability to allow hero to communicate with friendly units (Working on enemy units as well, expect things like, DIE WILD BEAST :] )

EDIT:

Check the newest thread! (Development...)
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/.../general-lets-communicate-190239/#post1851825

 

[Tleno]

Eat them with bag? You mean he can eat them dirrectly from a bag, right?
Talk? Why not "interact" that would allow to interact with non-living things too?

 

[-Kobas-]

Eat them with bag? You mean he can eat them dirrectly from a bag, right?

Yeah

Talk? Why not "interact" that would allow to interact with non-living things too?

Dunno, I see that everywhere so I wanted to make something more unique... any more ideas? How to describe spell btw >.>

^^

 

[Tleno]

"Interact with the person you want. Hey might have some valuable information for you to say."
should be good for begining. Later you siomeone might come up with better one.

 

[baassee]

You should really learn to code vJASS. The coding part of this had been much much easier

Teleport system? And how does it work?

 

[-Kobas-]

Hahaah I will try to do it whole in GUI

Well player will once again be able to cast spell from bag, backpack or hero, after few sec he will be teleported to Crystal of the Light (Each Camp/Base/Town will have 1), small rune will left on hero position. if he want to go back he must come to crystal and cast ability (port back to rune, removing rune )...

If he cast spell 2 times, rune will be moved to last hero position

When hero explore and gain control of few more crystals he will be able to teleport to any of them, and port back from any of them

Cast range for Scroll of Teleportation is infinite.
Can be activated at any place

Cast range for Crystal of the Light is infinite.
Can be activated only in 250 radius from Crystal.

 

[Nognix]

Nice.

 

[-Kobas-]

Earlier today I found out that I have exam tomorrow (damn math)...
So I was studying whole day
Tomorrow will be fucked with school problems and blessed with the best friend birthday party ^^

And how it seams last exam come 28.02
So that's some bad news...

Good news are that as soon as I finish this hell I will have a lot of free time and time for project

Honestly I can already upload demo, but I want to show you how will quest look like (with cinematics and fixed/improved English), I want to add all items (and add descriptions to them), abilities I want to add more and more before uploading map ^^

Oh archive will be uploaded these days, I still miss quests, abilities, classes and so on...

 

[Raven0]

Good news are that as soon as I finish this hell I will have a lot of free time and time for project

Good luck ^-^

Looking forward to demo

 

[Vengeancekael]

Good luck with the exam.
Looking forward to the demo.

 

[Nognix]

Good luck with the exam.
Looking forward to the demo.

Second.

 

[-Kobas-]

Progress... Friday, February 25 2011 00:34

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I found some time so I worked on different damage and it stats.
For now rare items look like this http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/1848455-post4.html

I will try to add Attack of Poison (Damage over time) and Attack of Light (Increase hero stats for each successful attack).

Will see about second attack will it increase damage, armor, attack/movement speed, attributes or any other default or custom stats.

 

[Raven0]

I like the attacks idea, ^-^

 

[-Kobas-]

Each "different type attack" has extra attachment.
Iron frost look blue, fire red and so on

 

[Nognix]

Arcane looks quite...pink. . Why is it pink?

 

[Raven0]

When I think of "arcane" I always think of pink/purple magic missiles from WoW

 

[-Kobas-]

Well because I made darkness purple I was forced to use pink
Sorry for horrible icons, I am not so skilled in that part

Maybe will some dude help when map become famous, who know, after all icon is last thing on my mind

 

[Tleno]

Nah pink is nice enough... after I've seen moderators and admins with my little pony avatars nothing pink can scare me...

Actually you could use something like blue with pink, you know, multiple colours...

 

[baassee]

Sorry for not getting this but how would a GUILD work in a singeplayer map? Or maybe I'm just stupid and this is not a singe player map.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

Ever played Morrowind or Oblivion, baassee? I would guess it'd be something like that/ranks/rewards/quests around a certain subject. Maybe some disposition thrown in.

 

[baassee]

Seems like I have not

 

[Adiktuz]

I played Morrowind... the guilds are there to give you alternative quests and access to some items/abilities... I love the assassins guild...

in Oblivion, you're required to join the blades for the story...

Anyway, this project looks so cool... I hope to see it finished... Good Luck!

 

[Tleno]

Yes, joining guild means you'll get to complete quests to get some reward and reputation, you could also unlock something new - from beeing able to enter guild quarters where you could but items, get quests and talk with other guild members, to unlocing something you couldn't do any other way, like joining mages guild in TES4 was the only way to get your hands on equipment to enchant items or create spells by yourself.

 

[-Kobas-]

Guys I decided to release demo in next few days. I will try to fix few errors and add few more abilities

Do not expect much there are 2 quests finished, and everything else you already know

 

[-Kobas-]

DEMO 0.1 UPLOADED

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/shadows-past-678/download-map-190782/

Be free to report errors here:
- Bug Report -

 

[SanD3R]

thx for demo
my opinion
+ nice atmosphere
+ awesome Landscape and interior
+ good music (like gaias)
+ attachment items
- camera is not so good, i think need add options like -cam1(default) -cam2
- wolf respawn very fast,and prosecution area big too
- bugged system entry and exit from buildings (I left a building from the fifth attempt)

yeah yeah, i know is first demo, and I believe kobas create best sprpg in world

sry for my bad english)

 

[Tleno]

Kinda busy now, but when I'll be back I will consider playing the demo...

R.I.P. Skycraft, we all shall remember how your head exploded after seeing the previous post...

 

[kidsoulex]

I know it's a demo but:
-The circles need to be replaced, in my opinion
-Buildings needs another camera, because of walls it's hard to see some stuff, in case of circle of powers, it's hard to leave
-The bear almost killed the guy who gave me the quest(don't remember his name) and also i think the bear it's too hard compared to wolfs, bear it's more like for lvl 5+, so we need to depend on wolfs, very slow exp and on makrura when we up to them.

 

[-Kobas-]

The circles need to be replaced, in my opinion

Will trigger that then.

Buildings needs another camera, because of walls it's hard to see some stuff, in case of circle of powers, it's hard to leave

Ok will edit walls

The bear almost killed the guy who gave me the quest(don't remember his name) and also i think the bear it's too hard compared to wolfs, bear it's more like for lvl 5+, so we need to depend on wolfs, very slow exp and on makrura when we up to them.

Buy some food
It's hard because you don't have abilities and nice items

 

[Tleno]

No posts on this hosted project forum for quite a time... any progress? Roy ou're just too busy to work on this map currently?

 

[-Kobas-]

I'm busy with some things these days, I join only to check mod lobby and few other important things

 

[Lans]

Found a bug.

If you click 'x' times on the cancel button after using teleport scroll you get 'x' teleport scrolls back ;P


Great map btw

 

[kidsoulex]

You should report that on bug report thread.

 

[-Kobas-]

Found a bug.

If you click 'x' times on the cancel button after using teleport scroll you get 'x' teleport scrolls back ;P


Great map btw

Ah it's not bug, I added that trigger to add scroll back to hero if he close teleport screen
Still something isn't right if you can gain more than 1 scroll

Will be checked

Note: Use bug report thread from now on
There are few reasons why I made it:
- To easily check what need to be fixed
- To easily check and make change log
- To easily give credits
and so on

 

[kidsoulex]

Perhads the trigger it's spammed or something making it to spam.

Edit: Just a question, can't you make it to only be used after teleported?