Playable Terrain #2

[HappyTauren]

discuss. This is an ingame screenie, nothing special.

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

OOoooooOOOOOOOOOH!

I like it, 10.1/10

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Awesome!

Id like to see some awesome ones useing no imports though...

 

[Mor)L(unE]

Cool rock/tree doodads, can i have those for the 2UTM?

apart from that.. looks awsome!

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Oh yeah!This rocks.It's great for an RPG,Campaign!

 

[Craka_J]

Very nice. A bit plain in a few areas, but I think overall it is just what I'd expect in an RPG game.
~Craka_J

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Looks good, has the diablo feel which I know you are going for.

 

[4rankie]

That terrain is really good man i wish i could terrain maps that good keep up the great work, and keep making those playable areas lol

~4rankie~

 

[v3Bu]

looks verynice. Can I ask wot are your fog values? And how much doodas can you have without lagging the game.?

 

[iron_warrior]

Really great, you probably need more plant life near the river, though.

Other than that 10/10.

 

[madman9800]

very nice. i like the forked rode well at least it looks like its about to be forked.

 

[Craka_J]

That is no where near a lot of doodads for a Warcraft III map! I say he needs to add more to it as well.
~Craka_J

 

[Oziris]

Lol.What is so good.I dont get it ther are spawn of rocks,rain,trees and litle onions and shurbs i dont see nothin special in this map.I agree with Craka_J

 

[HappyTauren]

Linear
500
10000
0.75

Color: 128,128,255

This is not even a map -.- This is just terran so far, so how do you expect anything really interesting. This map is going to be 480X480 so I dont plan on adding too many doodads (15k would be max)

 

[v3Bu]

Although it doesnt have any fancy doodads.. I think the atmosphere is priceless. Red guy kinda ruins it though .

From an artistic point of view this terrain is really nice.

 

[FamousPker49]

As far as terrains go, it is kind of unspectacular, but I think it is very good considering it is for an RPG map, and not to just show off terraining skills, and I agree with raging it does have the Diablo feel, anyway nice job for a playable terrain

 

[Gilles]

Really good work. Pretty plain on the path, but the overall feeling I get is great. But... I think think you could do better.

 

[HappyTauren]

hmm yeah kind of.. I hate playable terrain though

 

[Gilles]

Really? I like it. Why are you making playable terrains now if you don't like them?

 

[gavdaman88]

480 by 480?!? I really should get unlimited...

But anyway that looks really nice and its good to finally have some of these nice scenes playable.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Really? I like it. Why are you making playable terrains now if you don't like them?

It is to be used in his map project.

 

[HappyTauren]

Exactly as rage said I want to finish this terrain. NOW!

update!

 

[ColdRocker]

wow that looks great, im assuming the orangeness is that it is sunrise/dawn, the custom rocks and trees looks stunning, a real new fresh look, and that being playable is quite a good feat. Nice job

 

[Gilles]

I don't like how you spaced out the cattails. You should clump them in spots. The colors seem to clash to me. I don't like how green the grass doodads are. I think you should just take a tiny bit of green out. Also tinting the water I think would be a good improvement. The sky would naturally tint the water (try pale orange).

Really good work though. I love the entrance to the cave/mountain thing. Where's you get those rocks? wc3c?

 

[HappyTauren]

No, I got these rocks from... my hand?

View attachment AshenRocks.blp

Anyway, most of terrain is completely redone now



I made trees doodads so they dont suck memory as widgets, and I made them have proper extents
Also, I changed water colour. The cattails are staying that way until I change my mind

 

[v3Bu]

I made trees doodads so they dont suck memory as widgets, and I made them have proper extents

Looking nice so far.. erm Could you explain what you just sayd? Proper what and arent trees normally a doodads?. w00t

 

[HappyTauren]

No, trees are NOT doodads, they are DESTRUCTABLES (which fall into widget category), and as such, they have variable assigned to them as well as life. Since it has all that, putting 18k destructables is not a very good idea. Placing doodads instead is much better.

Extents are values when wc3 considers model 'out of bounds' thus making it disappear .

Anyway, here is an update

 

[v3Bu]

now that is something I call playable terrain..

1 more question how to you make them doodads?

 

[HappyTauren]

I export all trees, then map them to use custom texture, then import then as "Trees\Tree0.mdx , Trees\Tree1.mdx" , etc, and then make doodad that has 10 variations and map it to this model : "Trees\Tree.mdl"

Now, since WE wont allow you to use "Trees\Tree" , as you should, you then have to export doodad data as the file (File > Export Doodad Settings)

After that, open it with some hex modifier and sarch for STRING VALUE "Trees\Tree.mdl" , then delete ".mdl" values, and then import doodad setting into map (File > Import Doodad Settings)

Then you have to go "Advanced >Replace Doodads" and just change destructable with doodad type.

That simple.

 

[Gilles]

1337 rock HT! Does the water look better? I can't tell. Too bad you can't add shine on the water, that would be the best. Ohh, I see a pointy raised terrain on the road in the first of the previous two, flatten her! Also the last screen looks awesome. Such a forest feel to it. Well done! +rep

 

[MasterHaosis]

Nice work !!! I like that. Also great screnshot !!!!!

 

[HappyTauren]

Heres how water looks like



I cant give constructive criticism to myself (should I say lol?)

 

[MasterHaosis]

Wauw you are really my man !!!!!!!

 

[Gilles]

I can't decide. I'll go try out a couple things myself. I'll get back to you.

 

[HappyTauren]

I think I will go take a sleep (its 1am here)

I am going to rework those areas abit more even to get perfect forest feeling

 

[MasterHaosis]

Happy Tauren, how much times you need for this terren ?

 

[FamousPker49]

It happens to be called an 'Edit' button, I really like the newest pic, I think the water should be a little lighter, but it is still good, and btw G'Night

 

[Gilles]

I can never get my water to tint well. Any advice? It's pink by the way.

 

[Craka_J]

@Gilles: Depends what the tileset is. Each tileset has their own water.

@HT: Water looks awesome. And although the rocks with the cave part looks cool, at the same time it looks kinda gay, no offense but I don't really like it very much. Abyss in a hill is a bit rare, especially during the day lol
~Craka_J

 

[HappyTauren]

@Craka "abyss" is supposed to be a cave enterance lulz xD

What would you do to make them heterosexual? xD

@Gilles you should make sure that base tileset has LIGHT WATER (thats why I used cityscape) , and then CnP values from fog, it will look bit darker, but it should (not too much darker though)

In jassnewgen you can change tileset in WE ITSELF with NO IMPACT ON MAP except that it has one value changed (Tileset) and all tiles remain

 

[Craka_J]

I know it is a cave entrance. But it just looks too dark for a cave entrance during the day. Maybe at night though, it should work better.
Looks clean though. Can't notice rocks being cut off by the black so that is a plus.
~Craka_J

 

[Belgarath]

Those are all awesome, really, really awesome. May I ask what trees and tilesets you used? It seems you edited them, they look really good like that.

 

[HappyTauren]

Well, for most textures, go to www.wc3campaign.net

you will find Punisher_X's tileset or something and DanL texture pack. Those are the two I used. Rocks use normal texture which I edited and attached to the post above. Import path is Textures\

 

[Belgarath]

I see, thanks. Keep making awesome terrains, will ya? ^^

 

[HappyTauren]

I have to actually, to finish this campaign

 

[Gilles]

@Gilles you should make sure that base tileset has LIGHT WATER (thats why I used cityscape) , and then CnP values from fog, it will look bit darker, but it should (not too much darker though)

Thanks for the tip. If I make it a different base tileset, the dirt and grass tiles will have to remain! I can't change them and keep the water can I?

 

[HappyTauren]

thats why all real people use newgen these days. Newgen allows you to replace tileset, while not changing tiles at all.

NEW SCREENIe!

 

[Craka_J]

Looks awesome. A forest that dense requires grass. Otherwise it looks a bit too dead. I'm guessing it is Autumn, judging by the fog and sky. Also the dirt tiles everywhere helps hint that as well. But there needs to be a lot more grass in your map. I tested that RPG of yours last week I believe and it needs a lot more grass. Otherwise, (Although the doodad-placement and terrain layout is good) it will look like it was terrained by a noob... tileset wise.

Looks great so far though. Keep it up man, looking forward to this later on when the RPG is complete.
~Craka_J

 

[HappyTauren]

easy with grass craka, map is very little % complete yet there are 8k doodads already.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

That seems to be to many, better to have terrain simple to begin with and make touchups later.