Next modelling contest

[Pyritie]

Like what? An altar. A shrine. That's about it.

 

[Devine]

Like what? An altar. A shrine. That's about it.

no?
races will make the altars variate ....
Think people :/

 

[Kyrbi0]

Wow, I didn't think it was that well-received.
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Yeah, Altars can have loads of stuff. First off, there's just the sheer quantity of races that need altars (Jungle Trolls, Dwarves, Trolls, Kobolds, Gnomes, Trolls, Goblins (a different one), Trolls, Nerubian (wait, no), Tauren, Troll, Satyr, Centaur, Troll... ).

Then you have all the different options; you could have a statue, sure. Or a carving, or a totem, or an actual "altar" (like the Sunken Ruins doodad).

Finally, you could even scratch the whole "Wc3 Hero Altar" thing and go for a real-life Altar (like making the Ark of the Covenant or something).

 

[Pyritie]

We could try doing "doodad pack" again. The last one went over very well.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Altars could be classified as religious buildings and places, so various churches and sanctuaries may fit in. Or we could treat altars as hero producing buildings (at least this is their role in war3), so in this case also academies or arenas are suitable.

 

[Linaze]

Wc2 altar of storms would work, eh?
Someone do it, pl0x!

 

[Elenai]

I vote Altar building.

 

[Mr. Bob]

I vote for High-Poly models.

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I vote for critters.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Are we all just psuedo-voting, or is this actually being tabulated?

In any case, I vote Altars.

 

[Linaze]

I too vote altars.

 

[Kyrbi0]

*whew*. Finally! Just finished going through every Modelling contest, checking it's theme (and picking up spare models, kekeke).

It appears that past themes have been:

1)Attachment Pack
2)Creep Hero
3)Citadel (?)
4)Mech
5)Neutral Doodad Structure Pack
6)Halloween
7)Siege Weapon
8)Cavalry
9)Flying Unit
10)Elemental
11)Chimaera
12)Female version of Wc3 unit

So... I don't know what that does. We need someone to go through all the other idea threads for ideas.

 

[Xatoga]

I'd go for altars too. A simplish building (aka not a town hall) that can still be very extravagant and cool. Word to that, home dawgs.

 

[Just_Spectating]

we should restrict it a little more than just altars.

like, maybe a certain unit altar, or certain race.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Are you serious? Do you want a repeat of the Techtree Contest poll? (for those who didn't see it, we had a poll to pick the "Theme". Some of the options included "Dwarf", "Tauren", "Naga", and the like. Meaning that each entrant would be made to create the same race.)

Once again, O_-freakin'-o...

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Also, in case this does go through as an "Altar" contest, I just wanna throw it out there; I have a kick-awexome idea for a (Jungle) Troll altar. Seriously.

 

[Pyritie]

Are you serious? Do you want a repeat of the Techtree Contest poll? (for those who didn't see it, we had a poll to pick the "Theme". Some of the options included "Dwarf", "Tauren", "Naga", and the like. Meaning that each entrant would be made to create the same race.)

Once again, O_-freakin'-o...

Exactly. Specifically altars are not going to happen as a theme.

"Religious places" is more broad than just "altars".

 

[Kyrbi0]

Exactly. Specifically altars are not going to happen as a theme.

"Religious places" is more broad than just "altars".

Hmm, if you say so. I was referring to this, though:

we should restrict it a little more than just altars.

like, maybe a certain unit altar, or certain race.

Because there are enough different races for just "Altars" to be a fitting Contest; not to mention the people who take "Altar" creatively (as aforementioned; 'religious places of worship', or 'bloody altar of sacrifice', etc).

 

[Linaze]

Make an altar for any race within WC3, Trolls, Ogres, Kobolds or even Tuskarr! You get the point.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Make an altar for any race within WC3, Trolls, Ogres, Kobolds or even Tuskarr! You get the point.

I'm glad you agree; but I think we need to convince the people who will actually enter this.

 

[Linaze]

People at the Hive who actually joins usually want boring themes where the products are useless. But I'm not joining, so who am I to whine, really?

 

[Kyrbi0]

*cough*
*cough*
*COUGH*

I beg to differ.

 

[ike_ike]

Musicians. C'mon, it'll be AWESOME!

Plus, I had a great idea for a keyboard fellow...


Also, my keboardkeeps dying onme. Odd, no?

 

[Linaze]

Sure, some contests produce more useful models than others, that I cannot argue against. But generally... A good example would be the post after yours, Kirby0.

 

[Elenai]

Make an altar for any race within WC3, Trolls, Ogres, Kobolds or even Tuskarr! You get the point.

YEAH! GIVE US ALTARS! GIVE US ALTARS! *protest chants*

There is no need to 'limit it to a specific race', I mean geez...Why not just kill the creativity of the contest all together.

Just say "make it a warcraft race plox" and there you have it!

 

[Pyritie]

We're not doing just "altars". Religious buildings, maybe. But not solely altars.

 

[Elenai]

Didn't you just say religious buildings were 'too broad' a theme?

 

[Mechanical Man]

Altars are boring buildings. All of them look like this:

 

[D a w n]

Didn't you just say religious buildings were 'too broad' a theme?

no he just said: "
"Religious places" is more broad than just "altars"."

which is a good thing

 

[Elenai]

How are altars boring? They have statues! You can make all kinds of awesome things for the statue alone, and that isn't counting the particles, the pillars, the base, the placement of the stairs, the use of 'light fixtures', and effects.

 

[Pyritie]

Statues are not altars, in case you haven't noticed.

Statues could be included in religious buildings if they look "religious" enough, however.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

how bout a temple scene. people make bunch of religious models(doodads or actual buildings) and show them in a simple small map to show what it looks like all together. just suggesting. dont see a real point except to show how useful a model could be.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Statues are doodads. You can still find a person which will geomerge your statue with an altar model (or you can do it yourself). And I'm not fond of statues, thats look like some talented creators are too lazy to finish their work by animating them.

 

[Elenai]

Pyritie...Do you have any idea what I'm even talking about?

Statues are not altars, in case you haven't noticed.

...I do believe I know what an altar is in real life...However....To note a bit of something concerning altars in warcraft...

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<Even the Naga!

All of these buildings called 'altars' have statues, or some form of 'center piece'.

The point of this contest would be to make an awesome base, and a dang righteously awesome center piece, or statue, and light fixtures.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

And I'm not fond of statues, thats look like some talented creators are too lazy to finish their work by animating them.

damn. i've been found out! (^_^

epic model sounds ok or music model. but it looks like people really want those buildings

 

[Kyrbi0]

A good example would be the post after yours, Kirby0.

Actually, I think a "music-related" modelling contest could be really interesting. Maybe not necessarily super-useful... But you win some, you lose some. I just don't want that for this contest.

We're not doing just "altars". Religious buildings, maybe. But not solely altars.

Even though several modellers (who would then enter) have agreed with and/or fought for this option?... Alright.
Then just do "Religious Buildings". But please make sure to mention stuff like "Wc3 Hero Altars", so people think of it as an option. I mean, I'd like to think that these modelling contests garner both amazing displays of modelling prowess, and good resources for use in Warcraft 3.

Altars are boring buildings. All of them look like this:

-_- While they have many similar aspects (pillars, statues, stairs), they can vary in many ways. Also, who says you have to do exactly as Blizzard did? Mix it up a bit, make it interesting.

Altars: All five altars are symmetrical, feature four "pillar"-like things, and have stairs leading up to a statue or idol of some sort. "Working" animations include a glowing orb thingummy (NE, Naga), a lightning sort of effect (Orc), and lit torches (HU, UD).

See, even with those "similar bits" (pillars, a statue, stairs), Blizzard managed to make 4 uniquely separate and interesting altars. Undead actually has stairs going down (beneath the statue), reminiscent of a tomb. Even the building materials and motifs present in the architecture really show off the race they're from.

That's the other thing; making a racial altar isn't as simple or low-brow as throwing some random junk on their and calling it "Altar of Awexome":

I realized that [each Altar] hit a deeper level of each race than one would normally think (usually). i.e. for Orcs, it wasn't "Altar of War" or "Altar of Doom" or something; it was "Altar of Storms". This draws a great parallel to the "new" baby-face Horde, and it's strong Shamanistic ties.
Same with the Night Elven Altar of Elders; at first you're like, WTHeck? Elders? Wouldn't it be "Trees", or "Nature", or "the Moon", or anything? But no; this drives the point home that, with the NElven increased lifespan, they have some serious "old-wise-people", and that they respect their elders a whole ton.
(Humans = Altar of Kings, alright, not obvious -- Undead = Altar of Darkness, duh -- Naga = Altar of the Depths, not as deep (lawl), but still a good word).

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All I'm saying is, "Altars" isn't too restrictive. But even if it "is", "Religious Buildings" will work; just don't discout Altars. They can use the same basic formula, to very creative effect.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

howbout restrict it as hero producig building. can be an altar, can be a hut of such or a factory that manufactures robotic hero etc.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so instead of altars, make some Barracks!

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well I prefer buildings that can be habitable (I mean that a person can enter it).

 

[Mr. Bob]

I still think we should just make Higher poly original WC3 models. A 2500 poly grunt would be awesome to use. 2500 isn't that much. The current WC3 models suck frankly. We should vamp up the quality.

 

[Pyritie]

I don't see why. They wouldn't get approved in the model section, so why make a contest for them?

 

[Linaze]

Besides, they won't blend in well with the other wc3 units, so they would be a tad bit useless.

 

[Dionesiist]

It's called professional practice.

 

[Linaze]

Then go to some modelling forum, they surely have high poly model contests.
This is wc3, and high poly does not fit in wc3 at all.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I'm sorry, for a Wc3 modelling contest, that just sounds silly.

 

[Just_Spectating]

go ahead!

make some High-Poly Cinematic Models!

 

[Mr. Bob]

lol I don't mean high-poly like movie quality. I mean higher than regular WC3. So, it would be like say..... Dawn of War quality or something.

Someone, said something about them not fitting in.... A lot of the models don't fit in. But, when you have enough of them, they fit with each-other.

Also, someone said they wouldn't get approved in the model section. Erm...So? I mean, the model section approval rules are severely flawed in my opinion. I mean seriously, not approving a soldier or something because it is 1500polys? That's bull. For heaven's sake. We act like everyone here has the most crappy computers on the planet.

Anyway, just a suggestion. No gang-piling needed. (Not saying you were, just saying for the future. lol)

 

[Just_Spectating]

i have the crappiest computer on the planet

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i already make +1500 poly models and not many people seemed to complain

 

[Callahan]

There's a difference between theoric high poly and visual high poly.
ArcaneObservatory.mdx is 17000+ faces.

 

[skrab]

Even elenais HeroArchmaiden has +1700 polys but it still looks like low poly...

I don't really care about the themes anymore..