NEW UI WIP, Misha's Request.

[MiniMage]

I don't have many words to write down. Misha requested an UI as a trade to start animating my models, so here it is. It's intended to be slightly magical and.. somehow I need to work in Slavic mythology in there. Somehow.

I'd love ideas, because I think it's missing something, I thought a dragon serpent thing over the Unit face view and unit info, but I've never found an image to better visualize how it looks like, but hey, something that might be done. But yeah, once again, I'd appreciate ideas, because seriously, I'm stumped at the moment.

Err shit, I posted this in the wrong category. Could you guys move it?

 

[Misha]

as i said, looks really cool so far. :3

But yes, i'd like people to be strictly on Slavic Mythology here.. nothing Blizzardish please, lol

 

[Lord Cat]

Perhaps it could have Io fighting the titan on it?

...you have no clue what I'm talking about, do you?

 

[MiniMage]

Perhaps it could have Io fighting the titan on it?

...you have no clue what I'm talking about, do you?

Indeed. Not a clue. XD

Edit:
Also, tried with something simple. A longsword. Tried looking for a sheathe to add at the far right side, just at the tip of the sword, but oh well. Didn't find one.

It appears the sword cut the the remaining gap pretty well. Could use a few touch ups though, but it looks like it, flows, better with that gap filled. It's still an experiment though, What do ya guys think?

 

[Misha]

doesn't look that good..

 

[Pharaoh_]

I want this so badly (not with the sword attached)! <3

 

[MiniMage]

I guess I'm back to square one. Something needs to fill the gap. XD

 

[RiotZ]

I love Slavic myth, and I love this UI.
Without the longsword ofc.

Keep up the awesome work.

 

[Misha]

can't you find any "ala" or "azdaja" dragons? or the "zmaj" ? Oo

 

[RiotZ]

can't you find any "ala" or "azdaja" dragons? or the "zmaj" ? Oo

Zmaj are just regular dragons imo lol. And if you google it there are about 10,000 image results.

 

[MiniMage]

can't you find any "ala" or "azdaja" dragons? or the "zmaj" ? Oo

Googling ala gets me "Self Omninutrition, ALA-Liponsyra" Some kind of diet food crap? I think?
Googling azdaja gets me this http://www.azdaja.co.rs/intro/azdaja_intro.jpg and 17000 pictures of women cosplaying as some chick wearing black.

Zmaj has some minor progress though, a lot of fancy pictures.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mRGSZ1QxZ...zI/s1600/KAMENA+PRICA+zmaj+koncept+u+boja.jpg
http://www.gil-galad.info/gallery/albums/album11/zmaj.sized.jpg
http://www.prudkov.com/blog/wp-images/slike/desktop-pozadine/ljubicasti-zmaj-desktop-pozadine.jpg

Sadly googling zmaj also provided me with the scariest picutre you'll be able to see in your life.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3930/48179363cd5.jpg

Found something I was looking for. The general idea of the dragon serpent idea.
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/35099158.jpg

Also googled Slavic Mythological Creature Pictures and got this spiffy guy.
http://images.nintendolife.com/articles/2006/07/31/further_sadness_for_wii/attachment/large.jpg

Sadly, nothing in these is really useable, they're inspirational, sure, but not really useable. XD

 

[PROXY]

I see that you took something from Skyrim there

Nah, looks really, really awesome, hope you finish this :>

 

[Misha]

Sadly googling zmaj also provided me with the scariest picutre you'll be able to see in your life.

aaah my eyes D:

lol anyway... wouldn't know what else to suggest you.. maybe to try that "belouska" snake?

 

[Moon Mover]

You could put something around the clock at the top of the screen.

 

[Laiev]

I want this so badly (not with the sword attached)! <3

This.

For me, the first image is really nice :O

Why attach that strange and ugly sword? >.>

 

[_lycan]

oh my god awesome ui so far though still needs some pollishing i hope you get to finish it

 

[Zahadoom]

Slavic mythology - Baba Yaga, and her log cabin that resided on chicken legs. Look up "Slavic Mythology" on wikipedia. They have a lot of information and links to sites where you can get some good pictures. Personally, I would add Baba Yaga's chicken house to your image somewhere. I'm not completely sure though.

 

[Misha]

I don't think we have a room for a house on a chicken leg XD

 

[Luorax]

Awesome UI for sure. But as it's been said before, that sword doesn't really fit.

 

[Kno_Mad]

this is sweet! i do have

a few suggestions

red: move to centre of box, so a little to the right.

green: maybe add small detail here, it seems a bit bland.

yellow: this open corner looks a bit funny...

Cyan: maybe consider adding the detail from bottom left to select places indicated with a line at the top.


in my opinion, if you do those, this thing will be perfect! well, unless you can somehow add an animated dragon.... ;p anyway good job!

 

[Misha]

nice ideas

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Just dropping in to mention that you absolutely need to state all your sources for everything you put in there, MiniMage. We will not accept downright art theft.

 

[MiniMage]

Just dropping in to mention that you absolutely need to state all your sources for everything you put in there, MiniMage. We will not accept downright art theft.

I'm not sure if I'm going to submit it though. It was intended as a trade with Misha for him to animate my models. In turn, I made an UI intended for his Bas Celik map.
Well, I donno, if the demand for it is high enough, I'll scribble down the sources, much like I did with the Goblin UI and upload it. But we'll see. I need to finish it first before worrying about that.

Why attach that strange and ugly sword? >.>

Simple. To demonstrate what gap needs to be filled. I never looked for a beautiful sword, I merely looked for an object with the right angle.

this is sweet! i do have

a few suggestions

red: move to centre of box, so a little to the right.

green: maybe add small detail here, it seems a bit bland.

yellow: this open corner looks a bit funny...

Cyan: maybe consider adding the detail from bottom left to select places indicated with a line at the top.


in my opinion, if you do those, this thing will be perfect! well, unless you can somehow add an animated dragon.... ;p anyway good job!

Red -> No, I intentionally placed it in that manner to be able to add some mythological stuff.

Yellow -> I pointed out this before. This is the gap that I am working on. Of course I will work that out. But I need to fix the design before the details.
That's always how you do this, otherwise you'll be forced to redesign and the details will be added for nothing. XD

Green -> Was already in the works after I had uploaded the experimental sword version.

Cyan -> I disagree. XD

 

[Kno_Mad]

in my opinion, if you do those, this thing will be perfect!

what I was kinda suggesting was tweaking those few things, and leaving out the myth stuff for now; that would be kind of like a version 1. Then, when you find the right dragon/sword/ogre-whatever, put it in and then you have version 2.


its just that some people might want this for like a space map, and then myth stuff is a bit redundant...

also: re: Cyan - artistic freedom's all your's mate, just a thought! (just keep in mind that if you decide to make a 'version1', with no other myth details, it might be a tad bland. That the only real reason I suggested it in the first place!

 

[MiniMage]

what I was kinda suggesting was tweaking those few things, and leaving out the myth stuff for now; that would be kind of like a version 1. Then, when you find the right dragon/sword/ogre-whatever, put it in and then you have version 2.


its just that some people might want this for like a space map, and then myth stuff is a bit redundant...

also: re: Cyan - artistic freedom's all your's mate, just a thought! (just keep in mind that if you decide to make a 'version1', with no other myth details, it might be a tad bland. That the only real reason I suggested it in the first place!

Well, looked for more mytholgical stuff that would fit, but found none, so I ended up doing what I said I wouldn't do. Tweaking the details.

Didn't do that much though, but yeah.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Submitting or not, simply posting it here requires you to state sources when using them.

 

[MiniMage]

Wait, since when? I didn't see that in the rules. ;O

 

[Mufanza]

The sword is just a WIP guys. If he decides to leave it there, he will make it fit.
edot: One second thought, I personally think it could look really good! Ofc, after you align it better etc etc...

MiniMage: I agree with everyone, it looks really awesome! And you are right, it indeed is missing something.
I think it's the fact that the whole thing is so gray and, although it looks cool with all the ornaments and stuff, you need to bring it to live somehow.
Perhaps a subtle change in color could do the trick. You could put a gradient map over the whole image, making it for example a little more green on the left side, and a little more different color on the right side (or just apply it to the color of the light source).
There's no need to make it all saturated and flashy, you can put the gradient map to a very low opacity, so it's hardly noticeable.
Or the black spaces could be filled with a subtle texture.

It must be hard to come up with something Slavic. The Slavic mythology isn't familiar to most of the people, since it tends to be ignored by mainstream media (unlike Greek/Chinese/Northern/other mythologies).

 

[MiniMage]

The sword is just a WIP guys. If he decides to leave it there, he will make it fit.
edot: One second thought, I personally think it could look really good! Ofc, after you align it better etc etc...

MiniMage: I agree with everyone, it looks really awesome! And you are right, it indeed is missing something.
I think it's the fact that the whole thing is so gray and, although it looks cool with all the ornaments and stuff, you need to bring it to live somehow.
Perhaps a subtle change in color could do the trick. You could put a gradient map over the whole image, making it for example a little more green on the left side, and a little more different color on the right side (or just apply it to the color of the light source).
There's no need to make it all saturated and flashy, you can put the gradient map to a very low opacity, so it's hardly noticeable.
Or the black spaces could be filled with a subtle texture.

It must be hard to come up with something Slavic. The Slavic mythology isn't familiar to most of the people, since it tends to be ignored by mainstream media (unlike Greek/Chinese/Northern/other mythologies).

Never intended the sword to be there, It's just to show the angle in which I wanted the Dragon Serpent to be at. But I couldn't find any. ;/

I suppose I could try and add vegetation of some sort, this update one is starting to feel more and more like an undead UI, which wasn't my intention. XD
I have to say I agree with the fact that it needs color, but haphazardly a adding gradient makes it look weird, tried it actually.

Some more tweaking. :S

 

[Mufanza]

Or even the better: You could swap the sword for a hatchet/hatchetstick/longaxe...

Eh, I'm not sure how it's called in english, but it looks like this:

 

[Mufanza]

I suppose I could try and add vegetation of some sort

This is actually a good idea. Slavic people were mostly a simple shepherding/farming folks, so most of their fairy-tales was based on simple nature around them (I should know, I have it first-handed )

Note the ornaments on the images I posted before.

You could also add a goat-skull, or something of that kind...

 

[Mufanza]

About the colors, I think they look wrong to you simply because you're just looking on the image for too long
I'm not sure if you know what I'm talking about, but it's very common and happens to every artist as far as I'm concerned.
(Try to horizontally flip the image xP)

Here are a few gradients and filters that took me about a minute to make. They're probably not better than what you did, but you might get the idea of what I'm talking about.

 

[MiniMage]

Or even the better: You could swap the sword for a hatchet/hatchetstick/longaxe...

Eh, I'm not sure how it's called in english, but it looks like this:

Uh, possibly, should probably discuss that with Misha first, because I am unsure myself.
Also, another experiment.

 

[Kno_Mad]

you wanted dragons, i present to you:

a dragon signature i made a while ago

don't know if you can use any of it, but hey...


also, check the alignment in the area just above the inventory... its a little bit off...

and that 'golden version' as awesome!!

 

[MiniMage]

you wanted dragons, i present to you:

a dragon signature i made a while ago

don't know if you can use any of it, but hey...


also, check the alignment in the area just above the inventory... its a little bit off...

and that 'golden version' as awesome!!

I'm pretty sure I said Dragon serpents though. Like fire breathing snakes. Essentially among the earliest known documented dragons. Fire breathing snakes and fire breathing lizards was about what existed back then. ;S

I want it circling around the border, like a snake. Yet.. dragonish. Something along the lines of this. XD
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/reviews/large/heroes4gatherpc_002-large.jpg

Look at the borders of the screen there. Those dragons. Although, I'd need a higher quality version of those, which is rare.
Because everyone who is painting dragon pictures rarely paint dragon serpents and if they do, they always paint them posing in a strange position. :/

 

[Kno_Mad]

try these maybe: not all, serpents and not all slavic, but some nice pictures none the less!

prob the best one i found...

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dr...w=787&h=1014&ei=UMm-ToWbFYjD8QOGtd2wBA&zoom=1

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon,+border&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=a2MK6885ntExYM:&imgrefurl=http://www.davidelliot.org/gallery_results.php&docid=H5ZoFf5iQALI4M&imgurl=http://www.davidelliot.org/img/thumbs/border%252520dragon_t.gif&w=100&h=150&ei=UMm-ToWbFYjD8QOGtd2wBA&zoom=1

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon,+border&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=Y_2wDFDPJ9ul5M:&imgrefurl=http://sciocont.deviantart.com/art/Dragon-Border-Sketch-210464975&docid=vty2IB1lqW-99M&imgurl=http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/146/5/7/dragon_border_sketch_by_sciocont-d3haztb.jpg&w=475&h=1684&ei=UMm-ToWbFYjD8QOGtd2wBA&zoom=1

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon,+border&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=pDApE9de-NWjqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.nobbly.com/pages/browsertype.php&docid=ggtMv566BPNV_M&imgurl=http://www.nobbly.com/images/dragon-border-right4.jpg&w=125&h=350&ei=UMm-ToWbFYjD8QOGtd2wBA&zoom=1

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=77366&gsub=11217

http://media.photobucket.com/image/dragon%2C+border+/pathofthedragon/celtic2.gif

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon,+page+border&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=U9PD-OxHaLYV2M:&imgrefurl=http://www.elfwood.com/~raraavis/Dragon-Border.3143713.html&docid=QAm7cRGZFT7-3M&imgurl=http://www.elfwood.com/art/r/a/raraavis/dragon_border.jpg&w=155&h=773&ei=2cm-TtDILYzb8gPbqqmUBA&zoom=1

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon+thin&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=Ng_gOlWE_aZ_FM:&imgrefurl=http://ryujinswords.com/religiousmenuki.htm&docid=Vn7zweyZGbFRlM&imgurl=http://ryujinswords.com/Pictures/Fittings/Menuki/Dragons/101-thin-dragon-2-5-in.jpg&w=350&h=176&ei=ucu-TtvGIpS58gOfxLGMBA&zoom=1

http://www.google.co.za/imgres?q=dragon+thin&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=8_FqCPb1762BoM:&imgrefurl=http://www.elfwood.com/~eliyahu/Thin-Dragon.2714505.html&docid=sybVb7V-0ysBHM&imgurl=http://www.elfwood.com/art/e/l/eliyahu/dragon1.jpg&w=863&h=629&ei=ucu-TtvGIpS58gOfxLGMBA&zoom=1

http://www.oriongreatdanes.com/long-dragon.gif

http://www.emblibrary.com/el/Product_images/D6281.jpg

 

[MiniMage]

I thought to myself, let's yank something from the night elf UI just for kicks then make the leaves look like they dried a little, as if it was fall, when leaves turn orange brown or yellow.

It's still an experiment, but I'd try and manipulate the root there into the shape of a tree branch then try and look for a raven to sit on it.
That's the second concept I came up with a while back, I just didn't know how to place it on there.

Anyhow, thoughts?

 

[Misha]

are you kidding me? anything warcraft-ish is out of the question

didn't I already make it clear in the first post in this darn thread? :/

 

[Kno_Mad]

what about this one

or this

(okay so, tell me if you want me to stop, coz i'm kinda enjoying searching dragons on google... lol)


EDIT: Added more

 

[Mufanza]

You made no response to the colored versions I posted :C

 

[Misha]

rednek, i like your darker golden-to-copper gradient

 

[MiniMage]

are you kidding me? anything warcraft-ish is out of the question

didn't I already make it clear in the first post in this darn thread? :/

Bam. Shot down. Anyhow, I've worked my ass off with this UI.
How's the animating going?

Reverting to a previous version then.

Edit:
Getting tired of being shot down without knowing of Misha's updates and progress.
Anyhow, here's another experiment. The unit information field has turned into a map! the end is near

 

[GhostThruster]

Amazing.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Wait, since when? I didn't see that in the rules. ;O

Goes under common fucking sense, or Credits and Permission, if you like. A thread is a resource. You're taking the work of other artists and using it for your own project without acknowledging that they did all the work.

 

[GhostThruster]

@shiik: Go away. He is making art.

@MiniMage: You could add some skulls. Here are some examples;
http://www.google.com.au/search?tbm....,cf.osb&fp=94ecde2c7daf7fdd&biw=1366&bih=562

 

[Mufanza]

He's still ignoring me
Kno_Mad and Misha: thank you!

(I like the inventory icon btw)

 

[MiniMage]

Goes under common fucking sense, or Credits and Permission, if you like. A thread is a resource. You're taking the work of other artists and using it for your own project without acknowledging that they did all the work.

I assumed I only needed to give the sources when I officially submit it as a resource pending approval and whatnot. Right now it's in its development stages. What is used and is not used is going to change.
But I suppose I wont change the frame and you're getting more grumpy by the minute.

Technically speaking, the rules specify it in such a way that makes it sound as if it is being judged after being submitted, only then the need for sources are necessary.
But anyhow. Here's the links to what I used to construct the frame.

http://www.123abc.cz/download/grafika/heroes-of-might-and-magic-5-1.jpg
http://www.gamestar.hu/apix_collect...-of-the-east_20080131155329_2221_original.jpg

I'm not even sure if Misha likes the unit info map version. So I'll wait with that one until I officially knows if he likes it or not.

He's still ignoring me
Kno_Mad and Misha: thank you!

(I like the inventory icon btw)

Wut? You were referring to me? I thought I answered you stating that I never was much for gradients as I tried it myself and came to the conclusion that gradients doesn't really look good.
It did remind me that I needed more color, but other than that, meh. I didn't really like em.

I assume they wont fit very well with the warcraft style either. But I donno, maybe that's just me?

 

[Misha]

@shiik: Go away. He is making art.

go away, shiik knows stuff :b

@MiniMage: You could add some skulls. Here are some examples;
http://www.google.com.au/search?tbm....,cf.osb&fp=94ecde2c7daf7fdd&biw=1366&bih=562

tell me... where do you see skulls and slavic mythology together? :/

Oh and minimage, I'm sending you a PM with my detailed reply on this topic here, as it is.. well.. Private message

 

[GhostThruster]

I dunno...I just think skulls would fit.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Good.

Now, as for the interface, what immediately strikes me is that it's entirely flat and without thought of putting focus back onto the battlefield. You see, all the UIs by Blizzard have a perspective that suggests you're looking into the middle of the screen, and the elements of the UI come along that line. If you try to implement that in one way or another, I think the UI as a whole would be more inviting come the time for people to actually play with it.