Modeling competition 6 ideas

[Shaynne]

something sorta like the Rockin Arthas Doodad?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Band models is a useless idea.

 

[frostwhisper]

Definitely. And yeah, those abomis would need custom anims... But if everyone were to "make" their race, how many units would there be in it? Will it be like the dragons: one whelp and one grown organism, or the gnolls: melle unit, ranged unit, spellcaster unit, and boss unit. That would be awesome, but it would require quite a lot of time to execute...

 

[Shigee]

If you want an organic modeling competition, i would suggest a conceptual standpoint. Simple give descriptions and words that everyone must incorperate (visibly or not) into their model, of course these must not be too constricting.

Example:

Swamp Creature.

It limped along on its deformities, dragging its bulbous sacks and echoing stange noises in the swamp through the appendages on its face.

Something like this gives a great opportunity for everyone to come up with a unique model, while guiding them all in a theme and being fairly unrestrictive.

Just my thoughts on your predicament.

 

[frostwhisper]

I still think making a melle, range, spell and boss unit for a unique creep race would be awesome. Four models though... might take a while.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I still think FX pack is a good idea.

They're simple and fast to create, so we can have more entries/more effects per user.
They're useful and generally fit with Wc3, since they use ingame textures.
They're small in file size and demand no skinning or animating skills.
They're easy to learn.

 

[Elenai]

Hmmz....

Military:----Not limited to modern military. Relatively practical. Lots of room for imagination. And not neccasarily mechanical.

Effects:----Easy to make, newbie friendly, and practical with lots of eyecandy.

NewRace:--Many ideas and lots of imagination room. But perhaps time restraining. Although if it might give people a chance to experiment with fresh ideas.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

fantasy units for a fantasy game pwns mods of modern military based on fantasy games.

I'm sorry, did anyone say modern? No, they said military. I'm not sure if this website links to an alternate parallel universe, but in mine, Footman/Archer/Gunman/Samurai/Plane/Ghoul/Tank/Android is really kind of hard to group all into "modern" without a time machine.

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In my opinion, a generic effects-based modeling competition sounds rather bland. Effects tend to be universally practical, but military sounds more fun (not that my modeling-oblivious ass is going to join. it's just fun to look over)

 

[donut3.5]

Military: Almost too broad... nearly any unit could be argued as military.
Effects: Easy, friendly, and all users would be able to do this one, however, I can see the future, with 200 entries of LOLZ PARTICLE SPLOSIONS models...
New Race: Waaaay too much for a single contest.
...I dunno which I'd go for, I guess military, although I think we should make it a *bit* more specific.
--donut3.5--

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Military: Almost too broad... nearly any unit could be argued as military.

How about "standard soldier"? Cannon fodder can range from any time period, but still be specific.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

I am with WILL, FX would be neat and even the newbeginners could take part in the contest, like with the last one.

 

[SuPa-]

Yeah... and WILL wants that to be the theme because that's the main thing he's good at -_-

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

There is nothing wrong with having an alternative motive

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Yeah... and WILL wants that to be the theme because that's the main thing he's good at -_-

Im sure you would want somthing your good at too....

I agree with will too..

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Then again it's also because I want to compete with someone else than JetFangInferno for once...

We should probably note in big red letters on teh contest page that original entries (not just OMG lots of particles splosions!) have more chance of winning.

 

[FireEffect]

I think effects would be too boring to make. I think you can be alot more creative with organic units.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

We've done lots of things so far, including organic units. I think we need to give the effect makers a contest every now and then too. If it's a hit, we might evolve it into its own contest entirely, but we'll see. I definitely like that idea much more than "military"...it's so bland.

 

[Mechanical Man]

I am with WILL, FX would be neat and even the newbeginners could take part in the contest, like with the last one.

I still think FX pack is a good idea.

They're simple and fast to create, so we can have more entries/more effects per user.
They're useful and generally fit with Wc3, since they use ingame textures.
They're small in file size and demand no skinning or animating skills.
They're easy to learn.

Speak for yourself. If are you good at making SFX, this does not mean that is the easiest part of modelling for anyone else.

 

[Elenai]

Perhaps we should put this to a vote?

 

[Kofi_Banan]

I said that 2 times : Poll is best option. (Erghm if hive is democratic )

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

We could do poll, but it kind of sounds like chriz has his mind made up. And thats true, we havnt done a effect pack contest yet...

 

[Elenai]

So its agreed by.......something. It is an effects contest then.

CASE DISMISSED!!!

 

[donut3.5]

Is there going to be any theme? For I think "special effect" is about as broad as "unit". Like, fire, ice, explosion, channel, drain, mana, etc.
--donut3.5--

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Fire is usually the first thing people do with FX anyway...

 

[Elenai]

Perhaps a Holy vs Unholy theme?

 

[Mechanical Man]

I propose a projectile theme then. Not only weapon but also spell projectile and possibly the effect/death animation.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I propose a SFX contest with the theme of the primary four elements: Fire, Air, Water, Earth.

People can develop the theme as they like, but there must be a visible tie-in with one or more of these four elements. No "darkness" or some crap being an element.

I agree projectiles should be allowed as well.

Lets develop the idea and rules people.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

These should do the job

And any FX should be allowed, whether it's buff, explosion or projectile.

 

[SuPa-]

Hmm... so it's an element sfx pack? I might do 2 of each element I s'pose, or more

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Packs usually have models in relation to each other, so you'd have a fire pack, or an ice pack, but not a whole "mixed" pack... though I guess allowing a mixed pack leaves more freedom.

 

[SuPa-]

What about lightning/electricity as an element? THat's a wc3 element as well

 

[Callahan]

Theme restriction sux juste make the best FX to win.
Also FX is harder to judge by screenshot and even in viewer it rarley show the truth (particle screwed up,doesn't show ribbon,no motion etc..).So i suggest to add a test map with the pack.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Callahan's right.

Effects pack, no particular theme, just making effects is the way to go. No need to limit creativity, and FX is more of a theme anyway.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Fine, no theme then, but tough luck comparing effects to one another when judging.

 

[Rao Dao Zao]

The biggest explosion will win.

 

[frostwhisper]

The SFX which causes the most lag wins.

 

[Elenai]

I would say judge by three categories. using a 1-5 vote ballot. 5 being highest, and with a poll.

Simple, easy enough, and its been done before.

Example-

Creativity: 3/5
Eye Candy:3/5
Usefullness/efficiency:5/5

+poll

 

[donut3.5]

Meh, I still think saying FX is as broad as Unit. But whatever the public wants I guess.
--donut3.5--

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Again, you have to limit the size of the Effect, and having it smaller than a 512x512 square in the editor is a good idea. Or you could go even smaller, which might be better.

Also, while big explosions might be cool, they have to be interesting.
You can't make a huge explosion with one emmitter and expect to have it look good. And smaller, more detailed explosions are much better in the Wc3 engine.

The more I think about it, having a theme might that doesn't immediatly scream "BIG EXPLOSION!" (like fire, or dust) would also be useful.

 

[Massive_attack]

The like 10 people who wanted a military competition got owned and overrulled.

Totaly lame, a vote should have been made, and then perhaps some good would have come out of it. As it stands now, military pack supporters have been mostly disbanded due to the Vetoing of of the pack by a few people.

MySpaceBar brings up a good idea, we could make it specificaly on a type of unit (Grunt/cannonfodder, Tanks/cavalry, Siege/artillery, Airplanes/space fighters)

All i want is a vote, to see if there really is a large need for this noob-friendly SFX pack.

 

[donut3.5]

I think the reason why, even though there's people on both sides of the field, that SFX are going to be done as a contest, is because its a new and unique idea that hasn't been even touched upon in any other contest. Its a completely different category as opposed to units or buildings.
--donut3.5--

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

The like 10 people who wanted a military competition got owned and overrulled.

Totaly lame, a vote should have been made, and then perhaps some good would have come out of it. As it stands now, military pack supporters have been mostly disbanded due to the Vetoing of of the pack by a few people.

MySpaceBar brings up a good idea, we could make it specificaly on a type of unit (Grunt/cannonfodder, Tanks/cavalry, Siege/artillery, Airplanes/space fighters)

All i want is a vote, to see if there really is a large need for this noob-friendly SFX pack.

In my opinion, SFX should be a separate contest. Like donut said, it's a very unique category, that utilizes different ideas.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

I guess it could fit as a whole new contest category. It would give ground for more themes.

 

[Massive_attack]

Sure, besides dont SFX take less time to make anyway ? therefore i think SFX contests could be quick and sweet.

 

[Katu]

What about a "Military SFX" contest?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

WTF is a "military SFX"?

 

[Massive_attack]

Agreed, a military SFX apeals to neither side.

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

What about a "Military SFX" contest?

As in missles, nukes, and big explosions?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Yawn*.

Been done before. And leaves very little creativity.
I seriously think an effects pack with no particular theme would be the best idea, as long as the effects in the pack are related to each other.

 

[Just_Spectating]

ok, new idea: uhh.. Medieval times