Mini SD Modeling Contest (OFFICIAL) - Scary Monsters

[MasterHaosis]

Greetings ladies and gentlemen! We are starting this hosted mini contest as support for site and members here! Thank you for your time until now. It will official start from 1. October 2025 (to match Halloween season) ~ MasterHaosis

We gathered here good quality model makers to make monsters from media. That means anything thats not Blizzard's. It can be any monster from movies, series, books, games etc... as long is picture provided what you are making.

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• Main Hive rules must be respected plus for model section! Model for Wc3 SD, not Reforged HD. Must be good to be approved as Recommended at least like any regular model in Hive. No substandard, just recommended quality.
• Model can't be downloaded anywhere else before this contest. Must be either your work from scratch or can be based on any stock Blizzard's WC3 model we got in the game, as recommended models have right as well. But you cant use someone's else model even you have permission. Your pre-made and WIP models from images you posted are allowed as long as they are not released anywhere before! No cooperation with anybody for unfair advantage.
• Animations must be at least basic ones: Stand, Walk, Attack, Spell, Death, Decoy Flesh and Bone, Dissipate and Portrait. The more you have the better for you I assume. Portrait can be built in already or can have separated portrait file as always. Yes, despite some model or characters uniqueness, some anims can be absent such as dissipiate or talking portrait, or decay flesh/bone. You do not expect some rock monster or skeleton to have flesh for example.
• Custom skins - Allowed if someone wants, but must be your own or recolored stock Blizzard ones.
• Picture from any media (poster or screenshot) you took idea from. Yes, we all know that SD model can't match movie quality of course, but this should resemble your screenshot character to some extend.
• Model must remain in Hives section to be downloaded even if someone emo quits and decides to delete all assets! Whoever wins prize since money is involved there, his model will stay here, site will have right to re-upload it again if got deleted by winner.
  
  PLEASE, ITS BENEATH MY HONOR TO WARN ANY OF YOU AS YOU ARE ALL GOOD KNOWN MEMBERS AND GENTLEMEN HERE! DO NOT TRY TO ABUSE OR MANIPULATE SYSTEM HERE, ADMINISTRATORS ARE WATCHING THIS!

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1st Place: 40$
2nd Place: 25$
3rd Place: 10$

Reward icons for 1. 2. and 3. place as well. Also, there will be experience points for all contestants! The only rule for this is that your work must be approveable to prevent substandard models getting experience.
I donated much more money meanwhile for the site itself regarding this contest (140 dollars). The goal is next: winners get prize, the site also receives some money for the running costs and so on, plus we bring some quality models here, plus some activity and views!

Judge's Pick award: 20$
During the voting process, Panda will judge models himself independently from the public vote and pick his choice according to setup criteria. His choice can be anyone of contestants (whose work is approved) despite of place by votes. Technically anyone who won 1. or 2. or 3. place can be his choice (meaning he will get two awards and money), but also someone who did not win can be picked. Panda will also receive 20$.
Contestants are competing both for judge's and public opinions.

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CONTESTANT	WIP PREVIEW	FINAL ENTRY
@Stefan.K	WIP	FINAL ENTRY
@Villagerino	WIP	FINAL ENTRY
@Hotel	WIP	FINAL ENTRY
@tillinghast	WIP	FINAL ENTRY
@johnwar	WIP	FINAL ENTRY
@Vinz	WIP
@BoatyMcBoatface300	WIP	FINAL ENTRY

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For this contest it will be DEMONCRACY AND CORRUPTED JUDGE. Seriously, there will be popular vote plus, separately, judge's review. For limited time people will have to vote for winner, then independently judge will pick his choice according to setup criteria.

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This should start from 1. October to match fall and Halloween season as well. People already had plenty of time to make models.
Contestants will submit their models, deadline is on 31. October, at least one wip and picture until mid-October, 16. October, then moderator should review models to get them approved status, from November 1. After that voting will start.
If moderator decide that someones model needs to be further fixed we will have little more delay until model can go on vote. Thats not up to us, thats up to assigned moderator but we will get this to be done before Halloween so voting can start on that day.


THE POLL IS FINALLY HERE Mini SD Modeling Contest (Scary Monsters) - VOTING POLL IT WILL CLOSE IN 31. JANUARY!

 

[Villagerino]

Nice to see you as a host of a custom and official contest at the same time! Hope to see a lot of entries and many great finished models

A few questions:

• Should the model include team-color as a required part?
• Just to make it clear to non-native speakers: the last day for publication of the model is October 30th? 1. Post WIPs till Oct. 16th. 2. Post the model (when?). 3. Moderators finish the review on Oct. 30th.

 

[BoatyMcBoatface300]

well, anyway, gonna try my hand at making Calamitas Clone from Calamity Mod from Terraria, but specifically based on the concept art of it, cause the sprite that we fight is just, nope, ugly, but it's necessarily made that way so they dont have to redo the fight in game.

 

[MasterHaosis]

@BoatyMcBoatface300 that was cool haha

Nice to see you as a host of a custom and official contest at the same time! Hope to see a lot of entries and many great finished models

Thanks man! We managed it. And yeah I really hope more people to finish models, this is gonna be good in that case.

Should the model include team-color as a required part?

Thats an optional.

Just to make it clear to non-native speakers: the last day for publication of the model is October 30th? 1. Post WIPs till Oct. 16th. 2. Post the model (when?). 3. Moderators finish the review on Oct. 30th.

Ah sorry, I edited it to be more clear. Models, Wips, pictures should be until 16. October so moderator have time until end of October to review those and write if something needs fixing. Then after that we can proceed with voting. But still that is up to moderator not us, maybe we cannot manage to vote in exact date.
People had months in this summer to make models, now its finalizing in these two weeks. I hope most of people already made models or got nearly finished. I asked there in old thread many times if we need to adjust something, more time etc... and nobody wrote anything further so I suppose this is it now.

 

[Villagerino]

@BoatyMcBoatface300 that was cool haha


Thanks man! We managed it. And yeah I really hope more people to finish models, this is gonna be good in that case.

Thats an optional.

Ah sorry, I edited it to be more clear. Models, Wips, pictures should be until 16. October so moderator have time until end of October to review those and write if something needs fixing. Then after that we can proceed with voting. But still that is up to moderator not us, maybe we cannot manage to vote in exact date.
People had months in this summer to make models, now its finalizing in these two weeks. I hope most of people already made models or got nearly finished. I asked there in old thread many times if we need to adjust something, more time etc... and nobody wrote anything further so I suppose this is it now.

Gotcha. Hope I'll get it ready in time.

 

[Panda]

I can judge if you need, just let me know.

 

[MasterHaosis]

Gotcha. Hope I'll get it ready in time.

Hey do you need more time? We delayed it for long time, but if you guys need perhaps I can delay it until Halloween if you need this and insist, but that would be red line, no after 31. October for entries. Please tell me your status and we will see, but still you have to show WIp earlier.
I know people do not talk here much, but we talk in PMs, some people are working on models slowly as far I know but I already received ,,I hope I will manage it in time", which means that some of you are still working on it.

I can judge if you need, just let me know.

Pandaaaaaaaaa! Glad to see you man! Where have you been all the time? I have that thread opened for months and nobody wanted to be judge so we went of community voting. So, you are willing to review all contestent and pick who is the best according to points/or opinion right? How usually is judge work going?

 

[Panda]

Hey do you need more time? We delayed it for long time, but if you guys need perhaps I can delay it until Halloween if you need this and insist, but that would be red line, no after 31. October for entries. Please tell me your status and we will see, but still you have to show WIp earlier.
I know people do not talk here much, but we talk in PMs, some people are working on models slowly as far I know but I already received ,,I hope I will manage it in time", which means that some of you are still working on it.

Pandaaaaaaaaa! Glad to see you man! Where have you been all the time? I have that thread opened for months and nobody wanted to be judge so we went of community voting. So, you are willing to review all contestent and pick who is the best according to points/or opinion right? How usually is judge work going?

I picked another modeling contest to see the judging criteria but it seems like alot for a mini version of it,

Modeling Contest #28 - Wizards

Wizards Contestants are to create a unit or a hero whose main form of combat is magical in nature. The model needs to clearly show that the unit or hero in question is a mage or wizard of some kind or another - this includes traditional wizards, warlocks, witches, illusionists, necromancers...

www.hiveworkshop.com

So, maybe you or i can makeup a new criteria?

 

[Villagerino]

Hey do you need more time? We delayed it for long time, but if you guys need perhaps I can delay it until Halloween if you need this and insist, but that would be red line, no after 31. October for entries. Please tell me your status and we will see, but still you have to show WIp earlier.
I know people do not talk here much, but we talk in PMs, some people are working on models slowly as far I know but I already received ,,I hope I will manage it in time", which means that some of you are still working on it.

Oh, that's always happen when you're up to your ears in projects and you think that you'll just have time to scatter everything before the contest starts as you have plenty time ahead and then the reality hits you I also understand that one of the ideas of the contest is to provide a large influx of models, approved models, before Halloween, so if you'll allow us to extend, a week wouldn't hurt! Also, you will get better material because I feel people mostly start doing something when they see the official announcement, like you did here in the 1st post.

I also happy that the staff can take part in judging and in case of solo-judging we can go for a 30 judge / 70 hivers poll score just like we did in the lastest icon contest or something like that, so that you'll have more democracy and also a professional opinion when the judge has less responsibility and pressure accordingly. Just suggesting an option.

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I like the criteria that Panda pointed out, that Deolrin made up, and also the "concise" amount of points. If you are interested in my opinion as a modeler, then I would present the criteria, for this very contest, as follows:

Mesh. The geometry of the model gives your model a physical form and silhouette. Does the shape look clean or deformed when visualizing the reference? How well does the mesh resemble the character? Are all ends capped, are there any stray faces, etc? How well does the mesh correlate with the SD format: is it too detailed or too low poly? (5-10?)

Textures and UV-wrapping. The textures of a model, be they custom made or taken from the game, give your model character and substance. Is the texture blurry or too detailed when visualizing the reference in accordance to the SD format? Are there parts that are clipped, misaligned or stretched? (5-10?)

Animations. The movement of your model. The animations give your model life, character, a personality. Are these animations smooth or choppy? Are they organic or cold and robotic, and was this the intended effect? Do the animations deform or clip parts of the mesh? How creative are the animations? How well do they convey the model's character based on the reference? (10)

Effects. The implementation of various effects, ranging from particle emitters, ribbon emitters, and some 3D geometry (such as shockwave planes, glows, etc). How well do the effects convey the models's character based on the reference? Do they overload the model or, on the contrary, favorably emphasize the character's features? How well do they compare in quality with the SD format? (5)

Mechanics. Does the model contain all required mechanics in order to make it function properly within Warcraft III? These mechanics include collision objects, sounds, footprints, spawn objects, attachment points, proper geoset animations, proper use of Decay/Dissipate animation mechanics, and other mechanics. (5)

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By saying "reference" I mean the character that already exist in media with all its variations or versions. This makes a good point because, as far as I understand, you want to "recreate" the characters in the Warcraft universe to a greater extent, rather than over-interpret them.

By tying things to the "SD format", I want to emphasize that people shouldn't create overly realistic versions of their characters and bring them to life on the classic Warcraft engine visually as imported models, even if the participants think they need more detail and other means to portray the character in all his glory. We are recreating the character in a certain setting, not transferring it directly. Let everyone think carefully about how to maintain the golden mean between excessive quality, a tendency towards realism and the character's appearance in the visual canons of the game.

Since models need to be based heavily on references, we shouldn't take into account creative use of textures or meshes, since one might create a custom skin and another person will have to use their creativity to glue together different parts of the texture. Here I tend to convey the character and charisma of the character through animations and maybe effects, this is where creativity can be developed to approach assessment (points) more fairly. For example, we all can see from a movie how a character like the Thing changes shape, but how is this implemented using our modeling tools? Or, I know that It has the ability to hypnotize, as shown in the movie, but how would I portray such animation and what effects would I use without breaking the character?

I hope that my interpretation of the rules may be useful and adequate

 

[Panda]

Oh, that's always happen when you're up to your ears in projects and you think that you'll just have time to scatter everything before the contest starts as you have plenty time ahead and then the reality hits you I also understand that one of the ideas of the contest is to provide a large influx of models, approved models, before Halloween, so if you'll allow us to extend, a week wouldn't hurt! Also, you will get better material because I feel people mostly start doing something when they see the official announcement, like you did here in the 1st post.

I also happy that the staff can take part in judging and in case of solo-judging we can go for a 30 judge / 70 hivers poll score just like we did in the lastest icon contest or something like that, so that you'll have more democracy and also a professional opinion when the judge has less responsibility and pressure accordingly. Just suggesting an option.

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I like the criteria that Panda pointed out, that Deolrin made up, and also the amount of points. If you are interested in my opinion as a modeler, then I would present the criteria, for this very contest, as follows:

Mesh. The geometry of the model gives your model a physical form and silhouette. Does the shape look clean or deformed when visualizing the reference? How well does the mesh resemble the character? Are all ends capped, are there any stray faces, etc? How well does the mesh correlate with the SD format: is it too detailed or too low poly? (10)

Textures and UV-wrapping. The textures of a model, be they custom made or taken from the game, give your model character and substance. Is the texture blurry or too detailed when visualizing the reference in accordance to the SD format? Are there parts that are clipped, misaligned or stretched? (10)

Animations. The movement of your model. The animations give your model life, character, a personality. Are these animations smooth or choppy? Are they organic or cold and robotic, and was this the intended effect? Do the animations deform or clip parts of the mesh? How creative are the animations? How well do they convey the model's character based on the reference? (10)

Effects. The implementation of various effects, ranging from particle emitters, ribbon emitters, and some 3D geometry (such as shockwave planes, glows, etc). How well do the effects convey the models's character based on the reference? Do they overload the model or, on the contrary, favorably emphasize the character's features? How well do they compare in quality with the SD format? (5)

Mechanics. Does the model contain all required mechanics in order to make it function properly within Warcraft III? These mechanics include collision objects, sounds, footprints, spawn objects, attachment points, proper geoset animations, proper use of Decay/Dissipate animation mechanics, and other mechanics. (5)

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By saying "reference" I mean the character that already exist in media with all its variations or versions. This makes a good point because, as far as I understand, you want to "recreate" the characters in the Warcraft universe to a greater extent, rather than over-interpret them.

By tying things to the "SD format", I want to emphasize that people shouldn't create overly realistic versions of their characters and bring them to life on the classic Warcraft engine visually as imported models, even if the participants think they need more detail and other means to portray the character in all his glory. We are recreating the character, not transferring it. Let everyone think carefully about how to maintain the golden mean between excessive quality, a tendency towards realism in the process of recreating a character and his appearance in the visual canons of the game.

Since models need to be based heavily on references, we shouldn't take into account creative use of textures or meshes, since one might create a custom skin and another person will have to use their creativity to glue together different parts of the texture. Here I tend to convey the character and charisma of the character through animations and maybe effects, this is where creativity can be developed to approach assessment (points) more fairly. For example, we all know that we can see from a movie how a character like the Thing can change shape, but how is this implemented using our modeling tools? Or, I know that It can hypnotize and it's shown in the film, but how would I portray such animation and what effects would I use without ruining the character?

I hope that my interpretation of the rules may be useful and adequate

Im fine with that but all together its going to be 40 instead of 30?

Also, i can judge all of the contestants with that criteria and then write a little summary under that stating what can be better or nothing at all if its perfect.

But well see what @MasterHaosis wants to do.

 

[Villagerino]

Im fine with that but all together its going to be 40 instead of 30?

Do you mean points? Hm, should we cut down mesh and wrapping to 5 and leave animation with 10 as it includes creativity? Possibly, but after that I thought it was much more difficult for modelers to animate and this could give experienced modelers a big advantage. I thought like, let people enjoy making mesh and have more work on general image. Maybe I'm overthinking.

Also, i can judge all of the contestants with that criteria and then write a little summary under that stating what can be better or nothing at all if its perfect.

Glad to hear that you can provide summaries for each case. And, personally, it will be very interesting for me to read them.

But well see what @MasterHaosis wants to do.

Sure!

 

[Panda]

Do you mean points? Hm, should we cut down mesh and wrapping to 5 and leave animation with 10 as it includes creativity? Possibly, but after that I thought it was much more difficult for modelers to animate and this could give experienced modelers a big advantage. I thought like, let people enjoy making mesh and have more work on general image. Maybe I'm overthinking.


Glad to hear that you can provide summaries for each case. And, personally, it will be very interesting for me to read them.


Sure!

I mean i think that would be fine but considering some people use help from others for there animations as not everyone can do that part of the model itself. And, im not sure if there is "doubles" or ''help'' involved with contestants in this contest.

 

[Villagerino]

I mean i think that would be fine but considering some people use help from others for there animations as not everyone can do that part of the model itself. And, im not sure if there is "doubles" or ''help'' involved with contestants in this contest.

That's a good point. I completely forgot about such "help". How we should make it more fair? It turns out that we need to reward with more points those assessment blocks where modelers use third-party sources less? 5/5/10/5/5?

 

[Panda]

That's a good point. I completely forgot about such "help". How we should make it more fair? It turns out that we need to reward with more points those assessment blocks where modelers use third-party sources less? 5/5/10/5/5?

That should be fine but, if there is help involved then it changes things up a bit with the end goal with is the money prize. If both party's get the money or just 1. And, then i would be judging on both party's works separately but still giving the same end number amount for both.

 

[MasterHaosis]

@Villagerino @Panda thats it boys! Keep talking, this thread needs more exchanges of information and opinions, although I would be more happy if you did this earlier as we just get official but we had months old thread discussing this all. But hey, better late than never, so yeah so just keep doing this guys, rapid fire! I am in favor of your ideas, but I have some super idea on mind and wait Ralle to respond me as this can be approved by him, to implement judge system on specific way.

Also, some people and I talked individually via PMs, and many are in favor or increasing deadline, so I may edit soon first post to increase probably until end of October to match Halloween. Some people cannot manage it due to lack of time, some are even sick, got COVID and flu, so yeah, we will most likely have more time.

@BoatyMcBoatface300 Oh man sorry, I may misunderstand you, I though you are just brainstorming and talking. So you are actually going to make that model you showed on picture? If so, Okay man, you are free to join the contest of course. You can make that model and participate, when I edit first post I will include your name, if you are in.

 

[Villagerino]

I'm intrigued, what kind of system is this on your mind! We're just hobbyists after all, time is a really precious thing Thank you for your sensitive attitude!

 

[MasterHaosis]

I'm intrigued, what kind of system is this on your mind!

Ha! I will tell you just to see what Ralle has to say about it.

We're just hobbyists after all, time is a really precious thing

Exactly! Thats why I also included money rewards, some use to say ,,time is money"

Thank you for your sensitive attitude!

Of course, you welcome and thank you for participating and being contestant. I am sure 100% that you will contribute greatly here with your appearance, knowledge and especially your model here as nobody created something like this. If you did not shifted to something else.

 

[Panda]

@Villagerino @Panda thats it boys! Keep talking, this thread needs more exchanges of information and opinions, although I would be more happy if you did this earlier as we just get official but we had months old thread discussing this all. But hey, better late than never, so yeah so just keep doing this guys, rapid fire! I am in favor of your ideas, but I have some super idea on mind and wait Ralle to respond me as this can be approved by him, to implement judge system on specific way.

Also, some people and I talked individually via PMs, and many are in favor or increasing deadline, so I may edit soon first post to increase probably until end of October to match Halloween. Some people cannot manage it due to lack of time, some are even sick, got COVID and flu, so yeah, we will most likely have more time.

@BoatyMcBoatface300 Oh man sorry, I may misunderstand you, I though you are just brainstorming and talking. So you are actually going to make that model you showed on picture? If so, Okay man, you are free to join the contest of course. You can make that model and participate, when I edit first post I will include your name, if you are in.

Sorry i got back to you late im having a busy weekend.. But, whatever criteria your thinking you want to do im fine with so just let me know what i need to do and/or not do when the time is needed.

 

[MasterHaosis]

I extended deadline for models until 31. October, that is the red line since some people are sick and some are tight with time, but for 16. October at last you need to post at least one wip or screenshot from model to see what is this about.

 

[Panda]

Is there any WIP's from the other thread that can be attached towards this one or is there none?

 

[Villagerino]

Pennywise/It WIPs #1

Thanks to the Keeper of the Grove for his meaty lips and protruding eyebrows with chickbones, I mercilessly fed his head to a an insidious and many-faced demon - Pennywise

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Here are some links (I was asked to put) to the creative process that include some interesting thoughts and tricks:

• Part 1
• Part 2

 

[Panda]

Pennywise/It WIPs

Thanks to the Keeper of the Grove for his meaty lips and protruding eyebrows with chickbones, I mercilessly fed his head to a an insidious and many-faced demon - Pennywise

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Im scared for life now.

 

[MasterHaosis]

THats great Villagerino! Keep progress!

Anyway people this is my plan, it got confirmed so I can share it.
We should have ordinary voting system as planned PLUS Judge system as Panda is very interested in.
And that will be separately. That means Panda will have his own criteria and will be independent from public vote. Community will chose 1. 2. and 3. place while Panda chose his Judge's pick according to his criteria. And it will be separated reward icon and money perhaps as well as a bonus! Yeah you heard right, 4 award icons: 3 plus judge's choice and that can be anyone of contestants.
If we have 6 contestants for example, then it could be anyone regardless of vote. Theoretically who wins first three places can get second award as well, but also someone who was 4,5,6 place will get one, depending on judge. And yes, that means voting results would not be revealed until judge finished his job. So yeah, that brings this contest more fun and more level. Panda would also get reward money for this as well as this guys will spend time on this.
But that was the plan, I cant say 100% sure until I get be able to donate myself again in a few days, so before that happens I cant say anything for 100% sure, just for case.

 

[Villagerino]

THats great Villagerino! Keep progress!

Anyway people this is my plan, it got confirmed so I can share it.
We should have ordinary voting system as planned PLUS Judge system as Panda is very interested in.
And that will be separately. That means Panda will have his own criteria and will be independent from public vote. Community will chose 1. 2. and 3. place while Panda chose his Judge's pick according to his criteria. And it will be separated reward icon and money perhaps as well as a bonus! Yeah you heard right, 4 award icons: 3 plus judge's choice and that can be anyone of contestants.
If we have 6 contestants for example, then it could be anyone regardless of vote. Theoretically who wins first three places can get second award as well, but also someone who was 4,5,6 place will get one, depending on judge. And yes, that means voting results would not be revealed until judge finished his job. So yeah, that brings this contest more fun and more level. Panda would also get reward money for this as well as this guys will spend time on this.
But that was the plan, I cant say 100% sure until I get be able to donate myself again in a few days, so before that happens I cant say anything for 100% sure, just for case.

As far as I understand, the following is to happen:

Winners by Public Voting

1st place - Nickname | Reward

2nd place - Nickname | Reward

3rd place - Nickname | Reward

Winner by Panda's Judging

Judge's highest score (regardless of place in the Public Voting) - Nickname | Reward

 

[MasterHaosis]

@Villagerino EXACTLY! THIS IS THE MAN! Just to add that Panda's winner can be anyone regardless of place by public vote!

By the way! I see that you adapted your signature to this contest! I am impressed.
You like contests during Halloween right?

Oh hey, but you have follower, @Villagerino Jr. what do you think? You will cheer for him all the time?

 

[Villagerino]

@Villagerino EXACTLY! THIS IS THE MAN! Just to add that Panda's winner can be anyone regardless of place by public vote!

By the way! I see that you adapted your signature to this contest! I am impressed.
You like contests during Halloween right?

Oh hey, but you have follower, @Villagerino Jr. what do you think? You will cheer for him all the time?

Added just in case
Yea, I just saw Panda adapted icons contest info in his signature when he was judging and I decided to support the idea in order to involve more people by chance.
As for Halloween, I usually make Halloween skins for the Tree Tag community at that time

 

[Murlocologist]

I donated much more money meanwhile for the site itself regarding this contest

Wouldn't it make more sense if it was other way around? There’s not too much point in paying for ad when theres about 20 active model makers anyway, easier to just PM each of them and spread the budget money among them, offering reward for every completed entry, not just the winners. The site already seems to be using quite a few ways to cover its running costs, so not sure what you mean by that one. It is the talent of the site, like model creators, that do it all for free. And because you want high quality entries and a lot of participants, perhaps it would make better sense if they were the focus of budget.

 

[Villagerino]

Pennywise/It WIPs #2

Another portion of progress. A road from Peasant to Pennywise:

Forgot to mention that his collar is Panda's hat, nothing personal:

Keeping the stuff presicely low-poly and trying to save It's personality

 

[MasterHaosis]

Wouldn't it make more sense if it was other way around? There’s not too much point in paying for ad when theres about 20 active model makers anyway, easier to just PM each of them and spread the budget money among them, offering reward for every completed entry, not just the winners. The site already seems to be using quite a few ways to cover its running costs, so not sure what you mean by that one. It is the talent of the site, like model creators, that do it all for free. And because you want high quality entries and a lot of participants, perhaps it would make better sense if they were the focus of budget.

Well, if it WAS is essential part here as I cannot change the past and I have the old thread opened for months already since May 26, so people were free to suggest thing for months. Nobody suggested that and I cannot change during official contest even if I wish. I was opened to any suggestions and seems that people did not care, so be it.
I did the best I knew at the time to support site by donations and contest at the same time.

@tillinghast I do not see your message here, someone must deleted it, but thank you very much, you just reminded me of one important thing that I will include in rules, that people cannot remove those assets when they emo quit once they receive rewards and money. When they create public assets for free its their right to remove despite being stupid, but in contest they earn money that would not be possible if they win one of the places and rewards. I am strongly against it.

AH speaking of donations guys! The payment just happened!
I just sent 80$ to Ralle!
So, 20$ goes to Judge, thats @Panda
20$ goes to Judge's Pick award
40$ goes to Hive as support donation regarding contest

@Stefan.K @Villagerino @Jab1z @Bleeq @johnwar @Vinz @Thrall Zadeera
SO technically it can happen that someone earns now 1st place and judges pick award that would be 40$+20$ and two awards and experience points, so yeah go on and provide good assets!

By the way @deepstrasz what do you think man? Yo uare constantly observing this and linking posts but never put comment

 

[Murlocologist]

Well, if it WAS is essential part here as I cannot change the past and I have the old thread opened for months already since May 26, so people were free to suggest thing for months. Nobody suggested that and I cannot change during official contest even if I wish. I was opened to any suggestions and seems that people did not care, so be it.
I did the best I knew at the time to support site by donations and contest at the same time.

@tillinghast I do not see your message here, someone must deleted it, but thank you very much, you just reminded me of one important thing that I will include in rules, that people cannot remove those assets when they emo quit once they receive rewards and money. When they create public assets for free its their right to remove despite being stupid, but in contest they earn money that would not be possible if they win one of the places and rewards. I am strongly against it.

AH speaking of donations guys! The payment just happened!
I just sent 80$ to Ralle!
So, 20$ goes to Judge, thats @Panda
20$ goes to Judge's Pick award
40$ goes to Hive as support donation regarding contest

@Stefan.K @Villagerino @Jab1z @Bleeq @johnwar @Vinz @Thrall Zadeera
SO technically it can happen that someone earns now 1st place and judges pick award that would be 40$+20$ and two awards and experience points, so yeah go on and provide good assets!

By the way @deepstrasz what do you think man? Yo uare constantly observing this and linking posts but never put comment

It’s your money, spend it how you want to. I’m simply observing on how this contest could have been better optimized if your goal was to have successful contest with many entries. Because I’m not sure how donating to site, which you kinda keep mentioning in this thread, is related or supposed to have affect on this particular contest.

 

[MasterHaosis]

Because I’m not sure how donating to site, which you kinda keep mentioning in this thread, is related or supposed to have affect on this particular contest.

There is no good old donate button like before, so I gotta create paypal myself and donate directly to site/Ralle, as he is in charge of sites finances as far I know. Fund directly are transferred from my credit card to Ralle's account, thats how I donated for months. That is addition to ad I was paying monthly.
Oh hey, are you willing to participate yourself? You are creating skins, yes you can use your own custom skin for model.

 

[RvzerBro]

What an absolutely wonderful contest idea! I'm so excited to see all the talented creators bring fantastic monsters to life for Warcraft III. This is a brilliant concept that is sure to unleash a wave of creativity and fun in our community. A huge and happy thank you to the amazing MasterHaosis for organizing this, and to the Hive WorkShop for being our fantastic home for these future creations. Wishing the very best of luck to every single contestant! Let the modeling magic begin – go create some legendary creatures!

 

[MasterHaosis]

@RvzerBro thank you man so much on your kind words! This is the energy I want to see in this thread
Please join us, you can create model yourself as well. I saw your work that is cool, you can adapt any stock wc3 model to some monster you intended. There is time.

@Villagerino thats great man! I like your progress.

Oh I also talked with @Hotel in Discord recently about this. Hey man, are you joining too?

By the way just updated rules to add Judges pick award.
GUYS REMEMBER YOU CAN EARN TWO AWARDS AND 60$ AND SOME EXPERIENCE FOR ONE MODEL! COME ON!

 

[Murlocologist]

There is no good old donate button like before, so I gotta create paypal myself and donate directly to site/Ralle, as he is in charge of sites finances as far I know. Fund directly are transferred from my credit card to Ralle's account, thats how I donated for months. That is addition to ad I was paying monthly.
Oh hey, are you willing to participate yourself? You are creating skins, yes you can use your own custom skin for model.

I’m pretty much ‘retired’ in terms of wc3 modding, I don’t have modeling tools anymore. Maybe I’d be joining if teamwork was allowed, as I can only create textures at the moment. Also, those who intend on joining contest should probably post wips or at least ideas by now. Back in some older contests I used to host, there was requirement for each participant to post at least 3 wips, goal not being to prove that they made it, but to keep contests active.

 

[MasterHaosis]

Good news, I talked to our great members @Vinz and @Jab1z (I am talking to great Jab often)
They are progressing with models as well. @Stefan.K is also working as far I know, expect wips in a few days. Villagerino the epic is already showed us his progress. I am glad to have these people here in the contest, they are professionals and good members.
@Thrall Zadeera had some real life distractions, I expect him as well these days.
I still wait reply from @Bleeq
@johnwar did not respond anything for months already who knows if he is active around these days.
@BoatyMcBoatface300 what about you man?

 

[Villagerino]

Back in some older contests I used to host, there was requirement for each participant to post at least 3 wips, goal not being to prove that they made it, but to keep contests active.

I've never looked at contests from this perpective, that's a great point. I wish we had your wisdom before the start

 

[BoatyMcBoatface300]

Well, working on it, because I'm working off of concept art, there are the specifics to gotta figure out.

 

[MasterHaosis]

I've never looked at contests from this perpective, that's a great point. I wish we had your wisdom before the start

Well he may calculate correctly but he is calculating the wrong numbers, so he is wrong. He now calculates that 5+5=10 but it is 5+5+1=11 actually but he foresaw this 1, you know, devil is in details.
I have that thread opened for months already and now he comes with this when its opened already! ,,Wassup boys, I am now here, the sheriff is in town, I will tell ya how is the best" (after gunfights are over long time ago)
Also, he emoquit once and removed his assets so overall I do not see much of wisdom here, but anyway... (tillinghast mentioned that but his post is gone pssshhhh)

I’m pretty much ‘retired’ in terms of wc3 modding,

THIS! Exactly, being retired in fast changing ambience is key point here as even I discovered many things recently which will write you down.

Maybe I’d be joining if teamwork was allowed, as I can only create textures at the moment.

And why did not you come here earlier to suggest that? I almost literally beg people to say ANYTHING! Almost whatever they suggested I approved, you want deadline extended fine, you want monsters from games fine, almost each time from time to time I asked if anyone has any suggestion!
,,ANy suggestion for anything so far?"
,,but we wait until you guys still give suggestions about final rules and wishes of contest"
,,So guys, any new suggestions? When do we start? When do you want to start?"
,,Please guys, anyone else? Its last time to sign in before it officially starts. Do you know if someone is still on the vacation but is willing to join and cant comment now?"

And man if you earlier suggested that you want teamwork I would most likely allow that if you explain points properly, go check thread and you will see ho many times I adapted to people Hosted Hive SD Modeling Mini Contest

Which leads us to the next thing:

Also, those who intend on joining contest should probably post wips or at least ideas by now. Back in some older contests I used to host, there was requirement for each participant to post at least 3 wips, goal not being to prove that they made it, but to keep contests active.

If you read that previous thread you will see some people interested including johnwar. Have you seen them since then, have you seen him here again? he said himself ,,I am officially in". Not responding on PMs, nah he must have real life commitments and is not in Hive this period, it is nothing personal, its most likely justified, but I am just saying.
Now check this

I blurred out names because those are private messages, I cant screenshot private messages and tell names here. But as you can see I have tons of conversations with ton of people. And guess what? Just half of them are willing to reply that are not interested or are interested but do not have time due to many other things that include: some of them are preparing for war, some of them are sick/health issues or have sick family members, some lost interest. Many of them have no time because they have plenty commissioned models to make.
And half of them did not even bother to respond! Do not even have basic sense to respond (ah one of those who responded is tillinghast for example he simply is not interested and thats it), but are active here and post regularly many of them. Can you believe it? In modern times of social network and connections... People became zombified a lot last years generaly and is getting worse, I watch them on streets regularly, they were not like that 15-20 years ago, but I wont talk about that.

I also talked with many people on Discord, not here, despite I am not using it I had to go there and talk in person with few people, the same story, they are more communicative there but got same answers.

What are you suggesting about 3 WIPs to be even allowed for entry is madness in this year in this situation. In that case only Villagerino and few others would fit in perhaps. All cheers for Villagerino the guy was active from the start and is very fanatical and committed to this contest, he even has it in his signature. Stefan.K despite had some personal problems also immediately was in and is observing thread and talking to me, Jab1z also as well, this guy is communicative, Vinz said in advance that he wont be here some period but he is here now and tracks thread and communicate and that would be it.
Well I do see here some new people like BoatyMcBoatface300 and Thrall Zandera who is also joining, so not everything is black. There are some cases that people thanked me for even trying and hosting something to contribute...


Now, another paragraph about ,,back in old time" you mentioned.
Yes yes, you hosted old contests, but you are from 2016. here registered, and I am from 2007, we were downloading models locally from old wc3search in early 2000s so yeah I am older then you and remember even older contests.
So let me tell you difference between older times and this year:
In 2000s Warcraft was newer game, now is 23 years old; back then we were much younger, most were in high school and now many of us have jobs, families other priorities, back then people made models for free and now many make for money; back then it was easier to live which affected our time and creativity than now, back then you had smaller crisis and wars that did not affect half of the planet like now; back then you did not have social networks and applications everywhere to distract you, you had Hive and Hive's chat for Hive members and now you have Discord where Hive members are in Hive's channel but many of them are not in Hive site anymore ironically. Yeah I saw some people there and not here.

So overally: Back then was much different and easier. You could easily setup rules and tell: this is it, here are rules, adapt or wont pass because you had many of interested people. Now, I need to beg them and haunt them, adapt to them almost everything they ask, donate money and still barely gather people as many of them are not interested, abandoned game completely, got families, got health issues, preparing for wars etc... The hell even I got married recently and in mid december will have baby, so I completely understand this all.

I am not complaining on anything and are not even disappointed or angry, trust me, I am just explaining to you what I have learned so far regarding this. Even if this failed I would not be angry, the money would go to the site and thats it. But it wont fail of course and I am glad that we have few great contestants to continue.

 

[Villagerino]

Spoiler

Well he may calculate correctly but he is calculating the wrong numbers, so he is wrong. He now calculates that 5+5=10 but it is 5+5+1=11 actually but he foresaw this 1, you know, devil is in details.
I have that thread opened for months already and now he comes with this when its opened already! ,,Wassup boys, I am now here, the sheriff is in town, I will tell ya how is the best" (after gunfights are over long time ago)
Also, he emoquit once and removed his assets so overall I do not see much of wisdom here, but anyway... (tillinghast mentioned that but his post is gone pssshhhh)


THIS! Exactly, being retired in fast changing ambience is key point here as even I discovered many things recently which will write you down.

And why did not you come here earlier to suggest that? I almost literally beg people to say ANYTHING! Almost whatever they suggested I approved, you want deadline extended fine, you want monsters from games fine, almost each time from time to time I asked if anyone has any suggestion!
,,ANy suggestion for anything so far?"
,,but we wait until you guys still give suggestions about final rules and wishes of contest"
,,So guys, any new suggestions? When do we start? When do you want to start?"
,,Please guys, anyone else? Its last time to sign in before it officially starts. Do you know if someone is still on the vacation but is willing to join and cant comment now?"

And man if you earlier suggested that you want teamwork I would most likely allow that if you explain points properly, go check thread and you will see ho many times I adapted to people Hosted Hive SD Modeling Mini Contest

Which leads us to the next thing:

If you read that previous thread you will see some people interested including johnwar. Have you seen them since then, have you seen him here again? he said himself ,,I am officially in". Not responding on PMs, nah he must have real life commitments and is not in Hive this period, it is nothing personal, its most likely justified, but I am just saying.
Now check this

I blurred out names because those are private messages, I cant screenshot private messages and tell names here. But as you can see I have tons of conversations with ton of people. And guess what? Just half of them are willing to reply that are not interested or are interested but do not have time due to many other things that include: some of them are preparing for war, some of them are sick/health issues or have sick family members, some lost interest. Many of them have no time because they have plenty commissioned models to make.
And half of them did not even bother to respond! Do not even have basic sense to respond (ah one of those who responded is tillinghast for example he simply is not interested and thats it), but are active here and post regularly many of them. Can you believe it? In modern times of social network and connections... People became zombified a lot last years generaly and is getting worse, I watch them on streets regularly, they were not like that 15-20 years ago, but I wont talk about that.

I also talked with many people on Discord, not here, despite I am not using it I had to go there and talk in person with few people, the same story, they are more communicative there but got same answers.

What are you suggesting about 3 WIPs to be even allowed for entry is madness in this year in this situation. In that case only Villagerino and few others would fit in perhaps. All cheers for Villagerino the guy was active from the start and is very fanatical and committed to this contest, he even has it in his signature. Stefan.K despite had some personal problems also immediately was in and is observing thread and talking to me, Jab1z also as well, this guy is communicative, Vinz said in advance that he wont be here some period but he is here now and tracks thread and communicate and that would be it.
Well I do see here some new people like BoatyMcBoatface300 and Thrall Zandera who is also joining, so not everything is black. There are some cases that people thanked me for even trying and hosting something to contribute...


Now, another paragraph about ,,back in old time" you mentioned.
Yes yes, you hosted old contests, but you are from 2016. here registered, and I am from 2007, we were downloading models locally from old wc3search in early 2000s so yeah I am older then you and remember even older contests.
So let me tell you difference between older times and this year:
In 2000s Warcraft was newer game, now is 23 years old; back then we were much younger, most were in high school and now many of us have jobs, families other priorities, back then people made models for free and now many make for money; back then it was easier to live which affected our time and creativity than now, back then you had smaller crisis and wars that did not affect half of the planet like now; back then you did not have social networks and applications everywhere to distract you, you had Hive and Hive's chat for Hive members and now you have Discord where Hive members are in Hive's channel but many of them are not in Hive site anymore ironically. Yeah I saw some people there and not here.

So overally: Back then was much different and easier. You could easily setup rules and tell: this is it, here are rules, adapt or wont pass because you had many of interested people. Now, I need to beg them and haunt them, adapt to them almost everything they ask, donate money and still barely gather people as many of them are not interested, abandoned game completely, got families, got health issues, preparing for wars etc... The hell even I got married recently and in mid december will have baby, so I completely understand this all.

I am not complaining on anything and are not even disappointed or angry, trust me, I am just explaining to you what I have learned so far regarding this. Even if this failed I would not be angry, the money would go to the site and thats it. But it wont fail of course and I am glad that we have few great contestants to continue.

Hell yeah, patron, it's great that we have you with such energy and desire to want to support the community and contribute to Warcraft content. Now the things are set and we can only reflect on it. You managed to organize the contest somehow, and this is already a huge achievement. Personally, I'm glad the contest is up and running, regardless of other things that could be tweaked here and there. Thanks for putting so much effort!

P.S. Sheeesh, 2007-2025 And I know why you actually haunt people - because you are a Halloween ghost!

 

[MasterHaosis]

Hell yeah, patron, it's great that we have you with such energy and desire to want to support the community and contribute to Warcraft content. Now the things are set and we can only reflect on it.

Thank you so much man and thank you for great contribution here and promoting contest in your signature, you are one of the few most active people from the start and biggest fan

You managed to organize the contest somehow, and this is already a huge achievement.

THIS! THIS IS JUST IT! Thank you, that was what I was explaining to him in previous post, to organize something like that in this period is really some success. But he is retired and was absent from it for some time and is now like ,,hey in my time it was like this" and it turns out that I was present at his time and much before his time actually haha
And as bonus he mentioned something radically that should suggested months ago which had chances to get approved, not now in the middle of contest when people started to show wips.

Personally, I'm glad the contest is up and running, regardless of other things that could be tweaked here and there. Thanks for putting so much effort!

Thank you too man.
Yes, it has some flaws, I do have some flaws, I constantly asked myself what could improve and how to get better, I constantly ciritize myself regarding this, but hey in my defense it was just few of you that suggested things while most of people did not even want to participate in discussions and ideas yet in contest to create models! Which is for money as well not just for reputation and medals, worth point to be mentioned! How many contests are there where you can possibly earn two medals? yeah! I cant remember when I saw some SD contest like this before.

P.S. Sheeesh, 2007-2025 And I know why you actually haunt people - because you are a Halloween ghost!

HAHAHA yeah! Good one
But hey I am one of oldest people around but not the oldest. Ralle is just one year younger, and few people are abut my age. Misha is two years older, Mechanical Man even 3. Em! as well but cant remember his age. By the way I contact them as well, they abandoned game and quit modelling. Here are people (rarely now) active registered before 2007, just to know, so I am not the only one ghost here, but perhaps Halloween ghost yeah.

Oh interesting thing here in Hive that I rarely remember something happened for Hive Halloween season. There was one great Halloween skin contest around 2016 for Halloween, epic skins was Mini-Texturing Contest - Halloween you should see Frankenstein and Headless Horseman here

 

[Murlocologist]

Well he may calculate correctly but he is calculating the wrong numbers, so he is wrong. He now calculates that 5+5=10 but it is 5+5+1=11 actually but he foresaw this 1, you know, devil is in details.
I have that thread opened for months already and now he comes with this when its opened already! ,,Wassup boys, I am now here, the sheriff is in town, I will tell ya how is the best" (after gunfights are over long time ago)
Also, he emoquit once and removed his assets so overall I do not see much of wisdom here, but anyway... (tillinghast mentioned that but his post is gone pssshhhh)


THIS! Exactly, being retired in fast changing ambience is key point here as even I discovered many things recently which will write you down.

And why did not you come here earlier to suggest that? I almost literally beg people to say ANYTHING! Almost whatever they suggested I approved, you want deadline extended fine, you want monsters from games fine, almost each time from time to time I asked if anyone has any suggestion!
,,ANy suggestion for anything so far?"
,,but we wait until you guys still give suggestions about final rules and wishes of contest"
,,So guys, any new suggestions? When do we start? When do you want to start?"
,,Please guys, anyone else? Its last time to sign in before it officially starts. Do you know if someone is still on the vacation but is willing to join and cant comment now?"

And man if you earlier suggested that you want teamwork I would most likely allow that if you explain points properly, go check thread and you will see ho many times I adapted to people Hosted Hive SD Modeling Mini Contest

Which leads us to the next thing:

If you read that previous thread you will see some people interested including johnwar. Have you seen them since then, have you seen him here again? he said himself ,,I am officially in". Not responding on PMs, nah he must have real life commitments and is not in Hive this period, it is nothing personal, its most likely justified, but I am just saying.
Now check this

I blurred out names because those are private messages, I cant screenshot private messages and tell names here. But as you can see I have tons of conversations with ton of people. And guess what? Just half of them are willing to reply that are not interested or are interested but do not have time due to many other things that include: some of them are preparing for war, some of them are sick/health issues or have sick family members, some lost interest. Many of them have no time because they have plenty commissioned models to make.
And half of them did not even bother to respond! Do not even have basic sense to respond (ah one of those who responded is tillinghast for example he simply is not interested and thats it), but are active here and post regularly many of them. Can you believe it? In modern times of social network and connections... People became zombified a lot last years generaly and is getting worse, I watch them on streets regularly, they were not like that 15-20 years ago, but I wont talk about that.

I also talked with many people on Discord, not here, despite I am not using it I had to go there and talk in person with few people, the same story, they are more communicative there but got same answers.

What are you suggesting about 3 WIPs to be even allowed for entry is madness in this year in this situation. In that case only Villagerino and few others would fit in perhaps. All cheers for Villagerino the guy was active from the start and is very fanatical and committed to this contest, he even has it in his signature. Stefan.K despite had some personal problems also immediately was in and is observing thread and talking to me, Jab1z also as well, this guy is communicative, Vinz said in advance that he wont be here some period but he is here now and tracks thread and communicate and that would be it.
Well I do see here some new people like BoatyMcBoatface300 and Thrall Zandera who is also joining, so not everything is black. There are some cases that people thanked me for even trying and hosting something to contribute...


Now, another paragraph about ,,back in old time" you mentioned.
Yes yes, you hosted old contests, but you are from 2016. here registered, and I am from 2007, we were downloading models locally from old wc3search in early 2000s so yeah I am older then you and remember even older contests.
So let me tell you difference between older times and this year:
In 2000s Warcraft was newer game, now is 23 years old; back then we were much younger, most were in high school and now many of us have jobs, families other priorities, back then people made models for free and now many make for money; back then it was easier to live which affected our time and creativity than now, back then you had smaller crisis and wars that did not affect half of the planet like now; back then you did not have social networks and applications everywhere to distract you, you had Hive and Hive's chat for Hive members and now you have Discord where Hive members are in Hive's channel but many of them are not in Hive site anymore ironically. Yeah I saw some people there and not here.

So overally: Back then was much different and easier. You could easily setup rules and tell: this is it, here are rules, adapt or wont pass because you had many of interested people. Now, I need to beg them and haunt them, adapt to them almost everything they ask, donate money and still barely gather people as many of them are not interested, abandoned game completely, got families, got health issues, preparing for wars etc... The hell even I got married recently and in mid december will have baby, so I completely understand this all.

I am not complaining on anything and are not even disappointed or angry, trust me, I am just explaining to you what I have learned so far regarding this. Even if this failed I would not be angry, the money would go to the site and thats it. But it wont fail of course and I am glad that we have few great contestants to continue.

Yeah, activity of site has declined over the years and perhaps will continue to decline. We can debate about reasons why, but few years ago site started with quantity over quality mindset in terms of resources. Not sure what was the goal of mixing substandard and high quality resources together, but it sure made a lot of modders lose interest.

I remember teaming up with IcemanBo to co-host the biggest contest on this site: Icon/Model/Spell Team Contest - Hive Member[+100 Rep]
We had numerous pages of conversation to manage that contest. Can you imagine such contest being successful today? 20 participants who managed to submit an entry? People forming teams of three to create a single entry? Around 100 wips being posted? And all being managed within 4 months? No money rewards, just 100 reputation? No chance today. And it’s sad, because it’s things like that this forum should strive towards. Passionate battles of creativity being given the spotlight, rivalries, a competitive contest between participants who want to win, not just participate. But that’s pretty much gone these days.

 

[BoatyMcBoatface300]

Well, ain't t it just because of wc3 declining in general? After the fumble of reforged, and don't think Bliz has any plans for this now. Hive is pretty much the only one around.

Anyway, I think this will be the mesh, following the concept art as well as what the artist was going for, which is like kinda a cloning vat/life support machine gone wrong with "brimstone" magic, so I tried to make each piece of the tech seem like something that that machine might have.


Though, just thinking about texturing it is making me lazy...

 

[RvzerBro]

The hell even I got married recently and in mid december will have baby, so I completely understand this all.

My congratulations

 

[PROXY]

I can't fathom why every contest thread turns into discussions held a million times already. Join the contest or not, have fun, don't overthink it. That's about it.

@MasterHaosis thanks for hosting

Might join if I get the time.

 

[Panda]

I am currently working on a criteria for the judging so everyone is aware.

 

[Murlocologist]

I can't fathom why every contest thread turns into discussions held a million times already. Join the contest or not, have fun, don't overthink it. That's about it.

@MasterHaosis thanks for hosting

Might join if I get the time.

Well, idk, but it’s called having a conversation. What’s bad about having discussions and suggesting different views?

And even if I wanted to, I can’t join with the rules as they are, because teamwork isn’t allowed.

 

[Ustanak]

Spoiler: First WIP

Based on "The Keeper", a character from the game "The Evil within".

 

[MasterHaosis]

Guys thank you very much, I will reply regarding your wips and all that just to answer this first so I will separate another post to be more clear and visible.

Yeah, activity of site has declined over the years and perhaps will continue to decline.

Thats what I think too.

We can debate about reasons why, but few years ago site started with quantity over quality mindset in terms of resources.

Well what you speak here is true but site adapted to new world, new needs, adapted to these changed people and such... Simple, community had much more taste for 50 versions of footmen, raiders, graveyard rather than something unique. This all started with unique Ujimasa Hojo and community massively react to those and those type of reworks and adaptations, the many other model makers started to follow that path to even this very day. Which in this thread you will see Penywise and other unique stuff never seen before go to the model section and check how many rewords are there. But hey like I said before we had Hive chat, now we have Discord. Someone invented it and masses jumped in there and Hive staff saw the opportunity to adapt if they want to survive and thats it. Simply said, tastes and priorities of people changed.

Not sure what was the goal of mixing substandard and high quality resources together, but it sure made a lot of modders lose interest.

Well I get you here and you made point but still I fail to understand why it made lot of modders to lose interest? If I am making Dracula model to be high quality or Director Cut why do I care if someone gave wings to zombie and become substandard model? People will filter and download my model, rate and comment no matter which other models are around and which quality as this is my work and depends only of me how I created it and if people like or need it, so I completely fail to understand this logic you mentioned.

I remember teaming up with IcemanBo to co-host the biggest contest on this site: Icon/Model/Spell Team Contest - Hive Member[+100 Rep]
We had numerous pages of conversation to manage that contest. Can you imagine such contest being successful today? 20 participants who managed to submit an entry? People forming teams of three to create a single entry? Around 100 wips being posted? And all being managed within 4 months? No money rewards, just 100 reputation? No chance today. And it’s sad, because it’s things like that this forum should strive towards. Passionate battles of creativity being given the spotlight, rivalries, a competitive contest between participants who want to win, not just participate. But that’s pretty much gone these days.

Of course, I give you on that. I remember you being capable and professional artist, you helped in creating big contests, you hosted those stuff joined and created awesome assets, but where are they now? Ah thats right I remember something else too, which is also in the pack with all this, I remember some of you being drama queens arguing around in contests like crazy to the point that some people left community and removed assets. That also helped decline in wish to participate contests as well due to bad climate.

Well, ain't t it just because of wc3 declining in general?

Exactly, you are right that too! I mentioned that before that game is now 23 years old.

After the fumble of reforged, and don't think Bliz has any plans for this now. Hive is pretty much the only one around.

I did not even wanted to mention that. That was big nail to the coffin, that Reforged fiasco. After it, many people lost interest in the game.

I can't fathom why every contest thread turns into discussions held a million times already. Join the contest or not, have fun, don't overthink it. That's about it.

Exactly man, simple as that. I am just trying to communicate with all and respond to some posts and questions but you summed it pretty much well. But due to that I have to make separate post to quote those who created wips.

 

[Hotel]

Oh I also talked with @Hotel in Discord recently about this. Hey man, are you joining too?

Yeah I'll be joining in! Looking forward to everyone's creations!

 

[deepstrasz]

Well, idk, but it’s called having a conversation. What’s bad about having discussions and suggesting different views?

This is the thread of the contest that already started. Such conversations should either be done in Site Discussion or on the pre-contest start thread (Contest Submission subforum). It's futile now, off-topic and unfair to expect those who joined to simply accept rule changes on the way.