[Spell] Make Devour heal

[Krakenn99]

How can I make the Devour spell that the Kodo Beast has heal it when it's digesting a unit?

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

Pretty sure it's hard-coded to always damage the digested unit AFAIK. The only other option I can think of is to trigger it.

 

[Krakenn99]

Pretty sure it's hard-coded to always damage the digested unit AFAIK. The only other option I can think of is to trigger it.

I know that I have to trigger it... but how do I trigger it? How do I check if the unit has devoured someone and if the devoured unit is still in his stomach?

 

[Kyrbi0]

So do you want the Kodo to be healed (over time?) when he Devours (/digests) something? Or do you want the Devoured unit to be healed?

If the former, I have a neat trick I'm excited to see used.
If the latter... Devour is hard-coded to damage AFAIK (done some testing, but it's been a while). It's possible if you simply 'recreate' the Devour effect with triggers (to begin to answer your above question:
Devour can be caught like any other ability ("Unit Starts the Effect of an Ability" // "Ability being Cast = (modded) Devour").
And you can catch when a Devoured unit is killed by Devour (i.e. gone) with "Hidden Unit" (i.e. "A Unit is Killed" // "Killed Unit = Hidden" & "Killer = Kodo Beast (or other Devouring unit"), since the Devoured unit is considered 'hidden'.

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

I know that I have to trigger it... but how do I trigger it? How do I check if the unit has devoured someone and if the devoured unit is still in his stomach?

I see. Well I'd add the Kodo and devoured unit in an array and use a periodic trigger to heal and check if the unit is still alive respectively. You might want to look at Bribes GUI DDS; I think it has an event for when a unit is loaded/unloaded but I'm not sure.

If the former, I have a neat trick I'm excited to see used.

Now I'm curious. What's the trick, o' wise magician?

 

[Wietlol]

He just told you.

 

[doom_sheep]

fun fact kodos count as transports. they can even unload things if you give them the ability.

set the damage per second to 0 from the "devour cargo" ability. then add these two triggers:

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Add to Untitled Trigger 002 <gen> the event (Unit - (Entering unit) Takes damage)

• Untitled Trigger 002
  • Events
  • Conditions
    • ((Triggering unit) is loaded into (Damage source)) Equal to True
    • (Damage taken) Equal to 0.00
  • Actions
    • Unit - Set life of (Triggering unit) to ((Life of (Triggering unit)) + 1.00)

 

[KILLCIDE]

If doom_sheep is right, you can alternatively use Bribe's GUI Unit Event which has load and unload events, and variables to reference them directly.

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

He just told you.

I assumed he had another alternative for healing the Kodo Rider other than using the same method he stated in his post.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I see. Well I'd add the Kodo and devoured unit in an array and use a periodic trigger to heal and check if the unit is still alive respectively. You might want to look at Bribes GUI DDS; I think it has an event for when a unit is loaded/unloaded but I'm not sure.

Blah, no need for all that bloat. See above.

Now I'm curious. What's the trick, o' wise magician?

Bah, nothing that impressive. But like I said, you can 'catch' the loading, 'catch' the unloading, and have access to the 'loader' and the 'loadee'. That's all you need to (trigger) add/remove custom (passive) abilities (Spellbooked if necessary) for the modification of either (well, hopefully. You can definitely mess with the 'loader', though).

The "healing" can be done like so, using a hidden passive HP regen ability (super-pseudo-code FTW):
i.e.
Trigger 1: "A kodo Devours any other unit --> add HP regen ability"
Trigger 2: "A kodo kills a hidden unit --> remove HP regen ability"

Rinse & repeat for whatever kind of ability/ies you wish.

He just told you.

Did I?

fun fact kodos count as transports. they can even unload things if you give them the ability.

set the damage per second to 0 from the "devour cargo" ability. then add these two triggers:

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Add to Untitled Trigger 002 <gen> the event (Unit - (Entering unit) Takes damage)

• Untitled Trigger 002
  • Events
  • Conditions
    • ((Triggering unit) is loaded into (Damage source)) Equal to True
    • (Damage taken) Equal to 0.00
  • Actions
    • Unit - Set life of (Triggering unit) to ((Life of (Triggering unit)) + 1.00)

Ooh-hoo, that looks useful... So you can (with triggers) mess with the guy inside? And with the stock Unload ability they can 'disgorge' themselves?

Question: Why do you have two separate triggers (& one that just adds an event to the other)? Why not 1 trigger (Trigger 002) with the event already in place??

I assumed he had another alternative for healing the Kodo Rider other than using the same method he stated in his post.

Yep. See above.

 

[doom_sheep]

Ooh-hoo, that looks useful... So you can (with triggers) mess with the guy inside? And with the stock Unload ability they can 'disgorge' themselves?

Question: Why do you have two separate triggers (& one that just adds an event to the other)? Why not 1 trigger (Trigger 002) with the event already in place??

to my knowledge this is the only sensible way to use damage events since they have to be "specific unit" gets damaged instead of "any unit" gets damaged. so the other trigger adds the specific unit event for every unit there is.

if you have preplaced units you'll need another trigger to add the event for those, as well.

 

[Kyrbi0]

to my knowledge this is the only sensible way to use damage events since they have to be "specific unit" gets damaged instead of "any unit" gets damaged. so the other trigger adds the specific unit event for every unit there is.

if you have preplaced units you'll need another trigger to add the event for those, as well.

No worries about pre-placed; I work with "melee additions" only so that's unnecessary.

Re-he-he-he-eally? So you're saying there isn't just a "Unit takes damaged" event? But that this sorta gets around it? How in the world... I never knew.

So could this let you actually (sorta) make "(Any) Unit is Damaged" triggers, catching the damager & damage-ee & doing things to them?? That would be fantastic.

 

[Wietlol]

It is the sole reason why Damage Detection Sytems exists.

 

[Kyrbi0]

It is the sole reason why Damage Detection Sytems exists.

Yeah but I AIN'T GONNA BE PART OF YOUR SYSTEM

 

[Wietlol]

In fact, I threw DDS on the ground.
Its functionality is too limiting and hardly working properly.

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

@Kyrbi0 Ahk I got you now. Thanks.

 

[Krakenn99]

I made a loop trigger where it detects if both units are still alive. If the caster or the devoured unit are dead the loop trigger will stop healing the caster.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Ok, and that'll work... But AFAIK looping/periodic triggers are rather intensive on the game, requiring a relatively high amount of computer power. My solution avoids that.

 

[Krakenn99]

Ok, and that'll work... But AFAIK looping/periodic triggers are rather intensive on the game, requiring a relatively high amount of computer power. My solution avoids that.

Yeh but it's a lot more complex and I'm a noob so I'm not sure what to do exactly. Also I don't think that one trigger will be that intensive, you have to overload a map A LOT for it to lag.