Joan Of Arc

[Moderator]

13:27, 20th Feb 2009
LiOneSS: Oh skrab, that's such a lovely model. I love the skirt thing you did Good mesh, nice use of in-game textures. The only bad thing are the attack and walk animation. The attack animation should be a bit more fierce, right now she looks like she's about to gently pat you with the sword, and the walk animation is a bit robotic. But the model is certainly approvable, good job.

 

[Whisper]

looks good
but i think u should change head size

 

[Misha]

Marvelous 8)

 

[Addy93]

It´s Look very Nice

 

[D a w n]

looks nice but the face needs some work

 

[Falconeye]

Ah but the best thing about this model is it doesn't necessarily have to be Joan of Arc. If you wanted it to be her though it would serve its purpose.

 

[Gyrosphinx]

Great model, seriously, this rock.
thinking of reviving some old project of mine.
5/5

 

[LiOneSS]

looks nice but the face needs some work

yeah, the face is hideous, and the villager woman head texture is meh. but the model is nice. Skrab can fix it later ;D

 

[thedeathunterxx]

this is nice

 

[syltman]

Nice and usefull!

 

[KenshinUesugi]

Yeah, some odd reason I don't feel the head/face fits the body.

 

[Blooboom]

Dude, try and do this right if you are gunna make her... Research on her before you go about making her because for one the armor should not have color, Her armor was said to be white. so you should remove the shoulder color, the brown in the armor, and the Skirt around the armor should be red and if possible red with some black markings in it, the blade is okay but i feel that is should be smaller for the fact that it was much smaller and it looks far to big for the Model and last her hair, she ended up cutting it so you should make it shorter if possible, so I have to say its a 1/10... sorry for being harsh but I recently learned about her in High School so, I have a better picture of what she should look like.... oh and you should also add a crest on the end of the sword with a cross like something in this pic

 

[RaijinSpark]

wtf,this is a Saint!

 

[i_mOck_death]

looks great ^^

 

[Blooboom]

Its not all that great! Do your research and remake the model...

 

[thedeathunterxx]

omfg STFU about the name.

noone cares about the name !

it could be called brushwoman or something, who tha fuk cares.

its about model quality and usefulness. ur comments are probably why you have -8 rep lol.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Dude, try and do this right if you are gunna make her... Research on her before you go about making her because for one the armor should not have color, Her armor was said to be white. so you should remove the shoulder color, the brown in the armor, and the Skirt around the armor should be red and if possible red with some black markings in it, the blade is okay but i feel that is should be smaller for the fact that it was much smaller and it looks far to big for the Model and last her hair, she ended up cutting it so you should make it shorter if possible, so I have to say its a 1/10... sorry for being harsh but I recently learned about her in High School so, I have a better picture of what she should look like.... oh and you should also add a crest on the end of the sword with a cross like something in this pic

First of all, this is warcraft and you need to keep some features so it remains warcraft-ish. Because it will be small-sized in game, you con't need to add those tiny detail. Also, if you don't like the skin, then ask him if you can skin his model, because skrab isn't that good with textures. For the short hair, well, she wasn't having short hair for the whole life. Still the best approximation out there.

 

[TheGodOfIron]

It's personally quite well done.
Saint Joan Arc, I've heard her before.
I thought it came from, Yu-gi-oh! when I saw this saint card before.
But again, probably I am wrong.
But you deserve a 4/5.

Dude, try and do this right if you are gunna make her... Research on her before you go about making her because for one the armor should not have color, Her armor was said to be white. so you should remove the shoulder color, the brown in the armor, and the Skirt around the armor should be red and if possible red with some black markings in it, the blade is okay but i feel that is should be smaller for the fact that it was much smaller and it looks far to big for the Model and last her hair, she ended up cutting it so you should make it shorter if possible, so I have to say its a 1/10... sorry for being harsh but I recently learned about her in High School so, I have a better picture of what she should look like.... oh and you should also add a crest on the end of the sword with a cross like something in this pic

And yes, it's easy to say the details but it's hard in doing it.
Why don't you do it yourself so this modeller can learn from you? Not trying to be insulting so sorry if you feel offended.
Anyway, adding too much details means more polies, more polies means larger size file, larger size file may lead to disapproval.
Warcraft is kinda backward 3D game compared to those games like Unreal Tournament or Halo, so we will have to suffice with this.

 

[arthas_king]

just OWNAGE!

 

[Linaze]

Good work. I am fond of the "skirt" thing you did.

 

[HFR]

It's true, if is, great job finding the skirt, because it gives an very good looking to the model.

 

[Blooboom]

First of all, this is warcraft and you need to keep some features so it remains warcraft-ish. Because it will be small-sized in game, you con't need to add those tiny detail. Also, if you don't like the skin, then ask him if you can skin his model, because skrab isn't that good with textures. For the short hair, well, she wasn't having short hair for the whole life. Still the best approximation out there.

Its true, she didn't have long short hair her whole life but she did have short hair when she wore her armor and had short hair when she obtained her armor/sword so I think it just needs shorter hair really... and maybe I will take a crack at reskinning...

 

[skrab]

a small update
fixed the face on the portrait and some changes on the walk animation

 

[Falconeye]

Its not all that great! Do your research and remake the model...

YOU need to shut YOUR mouth and stop critisizing, the minute I see that YOU grow up and learn to make good models then YOU can talk all you want. Until now I point out to everyone there is a reason YOU have negative rep.

 

[BlinkBoy]

you have lots of animation troubles that you must fix.

First you are using TCB incorrectly, look at my tutorial for fixing it. (on Stand - 1).

Second, you haven't optimized the Keys. You must reduce the keys after baking the animation.

Third, The walk animation and the Attacks are way too slow. a walk animation should be somewhere between 20-24 frames in an FPS of 30, yours is 4/3 seconds.

Fourth, your animations have motion but they lack agressivity on attacks and passiveness on stands.

Fith, for capes it's better to use Reactor engine to simulate their friction with the model.

Sixth, the model needs some originallity when it comes to animation, she has the same feeling as the footman.

About Geometry:

The geometry is avarage, all I have to say is that you must fix Smoothing groups on the face and fix unwrapping. Perhaps try a different armor.

 

[skrab]

you have lots of animation troubles that you must fix.

First you are using TCB incorrectly, look at my tutorial for fixing it. (on Stand - 1).

Second, you haven't optimized the Keys. You must reduce the keys after baking the animation.

Third, The walk animation and the Attacks are way too slow. a walk animation should be somewhere between 20-24 frames in an FPS of 30, yours is 4/3 seconds.

Fourth, your animations have motion but they lack agressivity on attacks and passiveness on stands.

Fith, for capes it's better to use Reactor engine to simulate their friction with the model.

Sixth, the model needs some originallity when it comes to animation, she has the same feeling as the footman.

About Geometry:

The geometry is avarage, all I have to say is that you must fix Smoothing groups on the face and fix unwrapping. Perhaps try a different armor.

First: I fixed that problem stand - 1 animation.
Second: I forgot to do that, after converting i fixed some animation problems and than i didn't wanted to go back >.>
The walk is on 24 frames now and the attacks are around 27 frames.
I don't know how to do capes in Reactor engine
Its my first full character animation so i must fail on animation quality and originality.

btw thanks for the critque

 

[TheDivineBoss]

I think it's better to have the cape also team coloured.

 

[skrab]

i made that before but cousin said its better to be blue so i decided to leave it one colored
but if you guys want it team colored i will make it

 

[Mechanical Man]

y
Second, you haven't optimized the Keys. You must reduce the keys after baking the animation.

Ah yes, only now I notice the massive filesize. My halberdier has almost that many animation and is less than 100 kb. Maybe this is more detailed model but still.

 

[BlinkBoy]

mech, maybe because you convert your animations to linear, you cheater, .

Sry for off topic, but you could take what I just said to optimize the model more. Let's be honest it's very hard to distinguish smooth animations frtom linear animations, converting your animations to linear could help reduce the filsize to half or even more than 60%.

 

[CMarket]

Dude, try and do this right if you are gunna make her... Research on her before you go about making her because for one the armor should not have color, Her armor was said to be white. so you should remove the shoulder color, the brown in the armor, and the Skirt around the armor should be red and if possible red with some black markings in it, the blade is okay but i feel that is should be smaller for the fact that it was much smaller and it looks far to big for the Model and last her hair, she ended up cutting it so you should make it shorter if possible, so I have to say its a 1/10... sorry for being harsh but I recently learned about her in High School so, I have a better picture of what she should look like.... oh and you should also add a crest on the end of the sword with a cross like something in this pic

Lol, you're a fool if you're going to rate such a nice model a 1/10 because it isn't "historically correct". What would you rate it if the model was named female knight?

Please, get over yourself and rate the model by how good it is and not by how it's named or don't rate at all. Just please stop acting like a child and get over yourself.

 

[Misha]

Dude, try and do this right if you are gunna make her... Research on her before you go about making her because for one the armor should not have color, Her armor was said to be white. so you should remove the shoulder color, the brown in the armor, and the Skirt around the armor should be red and if possible red with some black markings in it, the blade is okay but i feel that is should be smaller for the fact that it was much smaller and it looks far to big for the Model and last her hair, she ended up cutting it so you should make it shorter if possible, so I have to say its a 1/10... sorry for being harsh but I recently learned about her in High School so, I have a better picture of what she should look like.... oh and you should also add a crest on the end of the sword with a cross like something in this pic

dude.... oO this is warcraft oO

 

[Mechanical Man]

mech, maybe because you convert your animations to linear, you cheater, .

Not really, actually it has TCB rotations. However I don't see why are non-linear animations so praised, I prefer working much more with linear ones. But yes, unlike mine this model has a portrait, but still, 224 kb is too much, even my three stage building has only 170 kb.

skrab, do you perhaps use IK solves also on arms?

 

[RaijinSpark]

lol XD

 

[Blooboom]

I ain't acting like a child, he named it that so i was giving him advise on how to fix it so that it fits with the name...

 

[Kwah]

Lulz. That was one of the stupidest comments ever.

How the hell do we know what she looked like anyway? We don't.

 

[CMarket]

I ain't acting like a child, he named it that so i was giving him advise on how to fix it so that it fits with the name...

Yes, you are. However, after this comment I don't think you're just acting...

You gave him advice and then totally trashed him for it + downgraded his resource.

 

[skrab]

skrab, do you perhaps use IK solves also on arms?

only legs, the arms and the rest of the body was biped

I ain't acting like a child, he named it that so i was giving him advise on how to fix it so that it fits with the name...

dude its just the name :/ and this model is for Modeling contest #12 theme, so if i would make the real Joan of Arc she would probably be a hero...

 

[Deepblackwind]

okay guys lets just say its a nother woman, who like the name joan of arc and have chanced her name to that,

and she went to the doc to get her head fiksed but it wend rung, and now she just like to fight...

all happy now?

 

[VeljkoM]

Well model looks great.Real nice idea.

 

[Mun'ki]

The English burnt Joan as a witch anyway, so her armour didn't matter.

Nice model though, shall have to try find a use for it somewhere...

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Reminds me of Jeanne d'arc.

(Joan of/de Arc - Jeanne d'arc..?)

Edit: Nobody expects the spanish inquisition.

Edit Edit: Oshit, damn im slow. Joan is the english name for Jeanne?

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Reminds me of Jeanne d'arc.

(Joan of/de Arc - Jeanne d'arc..?)

Joan of Arc = Jeanne d'Arc

Same thing.

 

[Jack_Sparrow93]

Looks great! Gj

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

Hm, looks good, a change in the hair would make it look better in my opinion.

 

[jesus.is.a.lie]

very good model. main in my map! ill give credits dont worry

 

[Cham[p]ion]

Hundred Years War map plz. =D

 

[Cicija16]

Can anyone tell me how to create any custom animation,i mean with repleacing parts from other models.I tryed with some programs and instructions no sucess.Add my freemail [email protected],help pls!`!=D
Its my MSN pls help=D

 

[irisu]

i'll check it out...
by now, at first sight, i can say, 3.5/5