If DoTA is uploaded to hive.. What is your Rating?

[General Frank]

Why do we have to go this all over again?

DoTards, Nitpickers, stupid people...
there are many reasons.

 

[neo_sluf]

DotA has trash codes. period.

All spells in dota are MUI and 100% leak free..

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Why does people get angry when it reads a topic about dota?..

Instead get angry you should share the things you learned on that game and discuss why it becomes succesful.. so that other modders will learn from it and create a succesful wc3 maps also..

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[Bannar]

@Almia:
Everyone who understands deprotecting art even a bit knows how DotA script code looks like. Both custom systems and spells aren't highest quatily yes, but as mentioned above - they are good enough.
DotA doesn't use newest systems/improved versions of already imported ones. It would surely speed up some things, but it's nothing significant nor affects gameplay in any significant way.

 

[Kala]

It's weird how no one has still brought LoL up. I was expecting a fight against LoL kids and DotA fanatics like in every thread like this.

Anyways, i think DotA deserves atleast 5/5. Why? Balanced items and heroes, lots of heroes & game modes and fast paced gameplay.

dont click me

 

[takakenji]

i tried dota once it wasnt fun at all but i generally do not like aoses (or should i say moba)

the only aos i ever really liked was the cataclysm one by cloud

 

[trolman]

It's weird how no one has still brought LoL up. I was expecting a fight against LoL kids and DotA fanatics like in every thread like this.

LoL is a dota ripoff/cashin that strips you of your money.

/thread

 

[8512590215848]

@Almia:
Everyone who understands deprotecting art even a bit knows how DotA script code looks like. Both custom systems and spells aren't highest quatily yes, but as mentioned above - they are good enough.
DotA doesn't use newest systems/improved versions of already imported ones. It would surely speed up some things, but it's nothing significant nor affects gameplay in any significant way.

Judge a map quality by code quality is the same thing, as trying judge a human by his IQ or by his body. Game is not a code or systems, and no one really care how it works. You love sex but u really dont care how it comes nice for you. 3D Physics, DGUI, ultra HQ models - are these are unnecessery for good games with good gameplay, and only poor shit games focus on graphics and systems only.

 

[Bannar]

^Stop fighting, it was not me who judged dota by code lol. Read carefully.

 

[Lambdadelta]

Absurd that one would judge a map as a playable thing by the fact that it doesn't use the latest and 'most efficient' vJass systems.

 

[Magtheridon96]

All spells in dota are MUI and 100% leak free..

DotA spells are pure shit when it comes to coding.

The Knockback system for Barathrum alone is so bad, it can't handle 10-20 units at a time without huge FPS drops because it relies heavily on trigger evaluations and executions. The map could be WAY more efficient than it is today. Bribe's Knockback system handled about 350 units smoothly on my machine while DotA's knockback system, extracted and isolated in a map, barely handled 35. I did these tests back in August.

I'm basing this on the fact that I've actually read the code.

#Facts

I'm not saying the map is bad because the code is bad, I'm just saying the code is bad.
I actually love the map.
If I were to rate it, I'd give it a 4/5. That's a 3/5 + 1 point for being awesome.

 

[Lambdadelta]

DotA spells are pure shit when it comes to coding.

The Knockback system for Barathrum alone is so bad, it can't handle 10-20 units at a time without huge FPS drops because it relies heavily on trigger evaluations and executions. The map could be WAY more efficient than it is today.

I'm basing this on the fact that I've actually read the code.

#Facts

Yes yes, DotA is badly coded. It use to be much worse with Shiva's Guard ^.^ Fifty units being moved periodically. Eventually they just replaced it with one model that had the fifty units as part of it.

But in the normal game, you won't get 10-20 units being knocked back. So it's not a major issue.

 

[Magtheridon96]

But in the normal game, you won't get 10-20 units being knocked back. So it's not a major issue.

I get that quite a lot really
Especially when my allies are carries who farm at the wrong times and end up having to clear huge waves of 30 units in the base destroying our towers while we struggle to make money and defend against the overpowered enemy heroes we fed earlier ;____;

 

[Lambdadelta]

I get that quite a lot really
Especially when my allies are carries who farm at the wrong times and end up having to clear huge waves of 30 units in the base destroying our towers while we struggle to make money and defend against the overpowered enemy heroes we fed earlier ;____;

Really? I can't think of where you'd have 20 instances of knockbacks. Perhaps with Spirit Breaker having Aghanims and Nether Striking heaps of creeps... but that's about it. Oh well. Haha.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Yup, that's about it

 

[kola]

I'm pretty sure if DotA was a map made on the hiveworkshop by one of its members everyone would agree to give the map a 6/5.

DotA is entertaining, well balanced, contains tons and tons of customized heroes, contains tons of items and recipes, is playable on a casual level and on a competitive level.

For those of you who will argue by saying it's not balanced so it doesn't deserve a 6/5... DotA is probably the most balanced a map on Warcraft 3 can get simply because of the huge number of players. If a hero is slightly unbalanced, a great number of frustrated players will complain. In a normal map, the fan base is not big enough to test every aspect of a hero on a competitive level in order to get a good balancing.

The code used in DotA is fine because the only way to know there are better codes than that is to go check and test the spells in situations that never happens in a real game.

 

[Gilles]

For those of you who will argue by saying it's not balanced

Who said it wasn't? Pretty sure no one did.

I'd give DotA a 3/5. I never liked it for a few major reasons.

1. Probably the worst was denying creeps. While this certainly doesn't make the game objectively "bad", it's my preference. I'm lazy and trying to kill and deny is just a pain in the ass.

2. I hated some of the heroes. The girl that shot herself and the hydralisk being the ones that come to mind. I'm sure there were others.

3. There was no bonuses for magic (correct me if I'm wrong). Mages were relegated to support roles late game while everyone else bought damage since their spells did so little compared to item'd up caries. I hated this a lot.

If we're allowed to compare to other maps... EotA was my favorite WC3 map. I still play it from time to time.

 

[kola]

In this thread

even that some parts are not balanced like ursa it is so far best and most played map on wc3. Better even than dday

But I'm pretty sure I read people complaining about the balance in old threads too.

 

[trolman]

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750933

 

[8512590215848]

Who said it wasn't? Pretty sure no one did.

I'd give DotA a 3/5. I never liked it for a few major reasons.

1. Probably the worst was denying creeps. While this certainly doesn't make the game objectively "bad", it's my preference. I'm lazy and trying to kill and deny is just a pain in the ass.

2. I hated some of the heroes. The girl that shot herself and the hydralisk being the ones that come to mind. I'm sure there were others.

3. There was no bonuses for magic (correct me if I'm wrong). Mages were relegated to support roles late game while everyone else bought damage since their spells did so little compared to item'd up caries. I hated this a lot.

If we're allowed to compare to other maps... EotA was my favorite WC3 map. I still play it from time to time.

1. Your own low skill is SO objective problem.
2. So objective thing, yes. Oh my fkin god DD
3. You are wrong. Carry mages are still freakinly angry till the end of game and in fine hands they're still be very strong till the late. Actualy thier first balanced moment that they hardly rule early and mid, and can easily humiliate late-carries let they do not have any farm till the end.

I will spell it again - most people who dislike DOTA - just have no sense of what it is. They saw it once, they played few times, and making thier own opinion. Tell me, how you can create some opinion about something, without knowing what it is?
And last moment about DOTA - compare with LOL game it much more oriented for a strong teamplay rules, where pick and synergy means much more than individual gaming skill.

 

[8512590215848]

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750933

nerds crying about ursa? okay, who can kill ursa? Void can kill ursa in 1v1. Barathrum can kill ursa in 1v1, blademail and tarrasque can destroy ursa, teamplay and ganks can destroy ursa. Any kind of CC destroy ursa. This is dump opinion that dota has some imba heroes. As always - team matters, counterpick matters.

 

[trolman]

Lucifer > all

/thread

 

[HammerFist132]

Dota is best wc3 map ever, it doesnt have most detailed terrain or maybe inventory, but it is done in perfect wc3 stile and have great game play, and it is one of the main reasons why is wc3 alive.
People just want to say something agains dota to show how smart they are, but on opponent side. Dota have many bounds because of wc3(spell power, cd reduction) but even like that it is great map. All who try to say different just want to argue or they are jaleous, I would write much more things bat I am on mobile. Magtheridon96, who cares if you pc can handle 35 knockbacks in seconds, if in reall game only 1 happens in 3 seconds. Perfect coding is needed only for spell section here. Good map doesnt have to have perect coding or terrain, it is enough to it has good gameplay. Peekey I agree with all things you told.

 

[Binsu]

Dota is best wc3 map ever, it doesnt have most detailed terrain or maybe inventory, but it is done in perfect wc3 stile and have great game play, and it is one of the main reasons why is wc3 alive.
People just want to say something agains dota to show how smart they are, but on opponent side. Dota have many bounds because of wc3(spell power, cd reduction) but even like that it is great map. All who try to say different just want to argue or they are jaleous, I would write much more things bat I am on mobile. Magtheridon96, who cares if you pc can handle 35 knockbacks in seconds, if in reall game only 1 happens in 3 seconds. Perfect coding is needed only for spell section here. Good map doesnt have to have perect coding or terrain, it is enough to it has good gameplay. Peekey I agree with all things you told.

I agree, dota is a great game. Even its terrain is not perfect, it still has this thrilling gameplay because the game involves strategy. Nothing is impossible. Even the strongest hero can be defeeated by lesser heroes. I also love the items here tho.

But Mags has a point about the bad coding but that doesnt make the game bad at all..

 

[neo_sluf]

Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps..

Anyway guys thanks a lot for the comment.. please just share your ideas and thoughts about dota..

Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular.. so i know he can code the latest screen selection for heroes.. but why he don't do that?.. Tavern Selection is just fine and doesn't cause confuse, lag, and bugs..

Icefrog wants to make the game easy to understand and even a grade 3 pupil can play it..

 

[Kitabatake]

Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular..

Hahaha

Map popularity has very little to do with coding skills.

 

[Binsu]

Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps...

Ow, this really affects me. I bought a Warcraft that its name is DOTA automatically and also ts shortcut so now I am an idiot?.... Ow....

 

[neo_sluf]

Ow, this really affects me. I bought a Warcraft that its name is DOTA automatically and also ts shortcut so now I am an idiot?.... Ow....

I don't know... its up to you..

 

[Lambdadelta]

Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps..

Anyway guys thanks a lot for the comment.. please just share your ideas and thoughts about dota..

Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular.. so i know he can code the latest screen selection for heroes.. but why he don't do that?.. Tavern Selection is just fine and doesn't cause confuse, lag, and bugs..

Icefrog wants to make the game easy to understand and even a grade 3 pupil can play it..

As much as I could disagree and argue some of the points, I won't bother to. This is a statement in itself.

 

[Binsu]

I don't know... its up to you..

Well, I also think these person just bought Warcraft because of DotA... they are making Warcraft famous but not with the features Warcraft has but what DotA has. Its really sad to think people forgot of Warcraft..... I think mostly are like this.... but no offense if not.

 

[8512590215848]

Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps..

Anyway guys thanks a lot for the comment.. please just share your ideas and thoughts about dota..

Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular.. so i know he can code the latest screen selection for heroes.. but why he don't do that?.. Tavern Selection is just fine and doesn't cause confuse, lag, and bugs..

Icefrog wants to make the game easy to understand and even a grade 3 pupil can play it..

there is nothing to play in wc3 except of dota. Only this the only map which you addicted for years. In case of comparison a whole all other maps on wc3 and dota, dota will get stable 85\100 and each other maps (include TcX and others) - for no more than 25-30\100. They are uncomparable.

 

[TheKurt009]

DOTA in itself is a great map.
terrain: 3/5 (plain)
spells: 5/5 (for the amount of different spells made through the years)
heroes: 5/5 (100+ heroes using the default models and some custom ones without
making the map over 8mb)
items: 4/5 (for the sheer amount of items available)
gameplay: 5/5 (very addicting. I've played some maps with my friends but for me none brings great joy than Dota.)

 

[Orcnet]

the map and its owner already has a site why need to upload it here?

4.5/5 needs more girls kissing girls

I'll rate it DC

 

[Nuclear]

1/5 would not play

 

[HammerFist132]

1/5 would not play

Why the hell are you so jaleous: tell me what is 1/5:
terrain: impossible
heroes/coding: impossible
gameplay: even more impossible
if dota is 1/5 then all maps on hivework shop wouldn't reach 0/5, you just want to argue and to say something agains something good, just to feel special, if you ever make map I will rate it 0/5 because it cannot be better and more popular than dota.

Just to know I haven't played dota for months.

 

[Vunjo]

Praise dota more pl0x

2/5 would not bang

 

[8512590215848]

Praise dota more pl0x

2/5 would not bang

Oh, you think this is better?

 

[Vunjo]

Oh, you think this is better?

Yes.

Not to mention *cough cough* hosted project *cough* is better.

Anyhow, let's not go off topic. I said 2/5 would not bang, that's all you need to know about my opinion of DotA.

 

[8512590215848]

Yes.

Not to mention *cough cough* hosted project *cough* is better.

Anyhow, let's not go off topic. I said 2/5 would not bang, that's all you need to know about my opinion of DotA.

You are funny.

In the reality your own project is too low and useless to compare with dota. And your own opinion has no worth, you just love your own project, and hate everything that is obviously better. Jealousy and lowskilled blind mapmaker.

 

[Bannar]

Who cares.

@PeeKey, neither will his opinion change urs, not urs his. It's "say ur opinion about ****" thread.

But you got a point - DotA is a community project, many forget about it; without players and their feedback, there would be no "dota fan site" nor the popularity DotA has shown over years. Projects linked above cant be compared to IceFrog's, which was developed by many for such a long time. It's just laughable.

 

[Nuclear]

Why the hell are you so jaleous: tell me what is 1/5:
terrain: impossible
heroes/coding: impossible
gameplay: even more impossible
if dota is 1/5 then all maps on hivework shop wouldn't reach 0/5, you just want to argue and to say something agains something good, just to feel special, if you ever make map I will rate it 0/5 because it cannot be better and more popular than dota.

Just to know I haven't played dota for months.

Ok I'll explain.

Terrain: ok
heroes: ok
Topic about it was posted in off-topic: 0/5

This sums up as 1/5

 

[8512590215848]

Who cares.

@PeeKey, neither will his opinion change urs, not urs his. It's "say ur opinion about ****" thread.

But you got a point - DotA is a community project, many forget about it; without players and their feedback, there would be no "dota fan site" nor the popularity DotA has shown over years. Projects linked above cant be compared to IceFrog's, which was developed by many for such a long time. It's just laughable.

Dota is Eul's and Guinso project, not icefrogs. And it was hardly popular before icefrog comes.

 

[Vunjo]

In the reality your own project is too low

I like your maps too. They are very...existent.

And your own opinion has no worth

Welcome to the world. Nobody cares about anyone's opinion unless they're as popular as IceFrog.

you just love your own project, and hate everything that is obviously better.

Your ways of offensive language inspire me to leave the community. To prove that I'm hating everything, you should gather at least 20 maps where I just said "Omg this map sux 1/5" and leave like that (DotA is an exception). Am I doing it? No? So please, don't say something you can't prove.

On the other hand, I admire other RPGs like TKoK and Gaias Retaliation. Those are much better projects than DotA....it can't be compared... the terrain in Gaias, the systems in TKoK....DotA is just a piece of crap compared to them.

So much of my hate towards other maps, weirdo :O

Jealousy and lowskilled blind mapmaker.

I'm sorry master. I'll learn from the best, and I'm looking forward to learn from your well made existing maps. Please forgive me.

Overall, to avoid being off topic:

I suppose I should explain my rating for DotA...so here it comes:
Terrain: obvious 1 or maybe 2 / 5. Just look at it please.
Interface: What interface? You mean regular non changed Warcraft 3 interface? 0/5
Heroes and gameplay: FAERIE DRAGON BEST HERO EU. Hilarious idea for a hero. Though this was only judging by models and storyline. Let's judge some more? Alright. The game obviously tried to have certain roles by heroes. Certain heroes can go with no doubts solo against the entire enemy team and vanquish them, others can't go 1 on 1 properly. More flaws? Not a problem. The irony is that the Intelligence heroes do not rely on Intelligence...at all. They just rush Dagon/Other OP item and live with it. At start, their spells can pretty much harass 15-25% of health. End game, a well build Huskar with Hood of Defiance won't take more than 5% of health from for example Lich's Frost Nova. I've got 1 thing to say positive about it though. Some heroes are quite fun to play, and have some interesting spell ideas. But overall remains ~2 or 3 /5
Art: Ehm...yeah....non existent. Except for the fan arts, there's nothing more to it.
Balance: Huskar low on health gains literally ~100% attack speed and similar damage amount. Satanic on active grants 200% lifesteal. Black King Bar 10 seconds invulnerable to CC effects. Judging by your other posts, and by that intelligence, I assumed this is not enough for your tiny brain to understand, so let me try this way. Combine those items and heroes -> solo against entire enemy team. Fact: If you're denying this, it means you can't do it, and I've actually done it a whole lot of times. Believe it or not but I was playing DotA too much when it was popular.

I think the overall deserves 2/5 after all. Remember, it's not Icefrog who made it popular, it's the community who found the game rather fun, and retard-friendly.

 

[Bannar]

Ok I'll explain.

Terrain: ok
heroes: ok
Topic about it was posted in off-topic: 0/5

This sums up as 1/5

Perfect explanation dude.

@PeeKey trust me, I know who created DotA; I've been playing wc3 since premiere. IceFrog is maintaining project as of now so I called him.
How many games have u played anyways? 1,5k here. Not playing for 2years.

 

[Zakamutt]

i suppose i should explain my rating for dota...so here it comes:
Terrain: Obvious 1 or maybe 2 / 5. Just look at it please.
Interface: What interface? You mean regular non changed warcraft 3 interface? 0/5
heroes and gameplay: Faerie dragon best hero eu. Hilarious idea for a hero. Though this was only judging by models and storyline. Let's judge some more? Alright. The game obviously tried to have certain roles by heroes. Certain heroes can go with no doubts solo against the entire enemy team and vanquish them, others can't go 1 on 1 properly. More flaws? Not a problem. The irony is that the intelligence heroes do not rely on intelligence...at all. They just rush dagon/other op item and live with it. At start, their spells can pretty much harass 15-25% of health. End game, a well build huskar with hood of defiance won't take more than 5% of health from for example lich's frost nova. I've got 1 thing to say positive about it though. Some heroes are quite fun to play, and have some interesting spell ideas. But overall remains ~2 or 3 /5
art: Ehm...yeah....non existent. Except for the fan arts, there's nothing more to it.
Balance: Huskar low on health gains literally ~100% attack speed and similar damage amount. Satanic on active grants 200% lifesteal. Black king bar 10 seconds invulnerable to cc effects. Judging by your other posts, and by that intelligence, i assumed this is not enough for your tiny brain to understand, so let me try this way. Combine those items and heroes -> solo against entire enemy team. Fact: If you're denying this, it means you can't do it, and i've actually done it a whole lot of times. Believe it or not but i was playing dota too much when it was popular.

7/10

 

[takakenji]

hail dota the best game in the world wow its so fun!!!
5/5 original concept dota was the first AOS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/5 fun ggameplay addicing VEry fun gameplay it lamost emulates CRACK scientists say
0/5 all other maps on hive as All who hate dota are "low skill map makers"!!! now let me link someones personal map to prove my point!!! im such a nice guy !!
5/5 PERFECT visuals and MASTER terrain

overall i give dota 5/5 and directors cut rating i think i mean it's the best game on wc3, look at how many players it has. from my experience a games playerbase determnes how good it is, such as WoW, Call of Duty, Halo 4

 

[Zakamutt]

hail dota the best game in the world wow its so fun!!!
5/5 original concept dota was the first AOS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/5 fun ggameplay addicing VEry fun gameplay it lamost emulates CRACK scientists say
0/5 all other maps on hive as All who hate dota are "low skill map makers"!!! now let me link someones personal map to prove my point!!! im such a nice guy !!
5/5 PERFECT visuals and MASTER terrain

overall i give dota 5/5 and directors cut rating i think i mean it's the best game on wc3, look at how many players it has. from my experience a games playerbase determnes how good it is, such as WoW, Call of Duty, Halo 4

this is 100% correct

 

[HammerFist132]

Peekey I suggest you not to bother or even lose your time ona snwering their so stupid question, they don't even think what are they talking. I dont play and dont like dota that much any more, but true is that map is really Hq and I wont spam my explanation or answer some so fucking stupid question that make me so hammered for no reason. If you really think dota is bad map then stop thinking you are bad in it. Thats last post that I will post in this thread.

 

[8512590215848]

On the other hand, I admire other RPGs like TKoK and Gaias Retaliation. Those are much better projects than DotA....it can't be compared... the terrain in Gaias, the systems in TKoK....DotA is just a piece of crap compared to them.

Systems, terrain... what a stupid point of view. No one cares of systems,code, terrain when play any map. Systems and terrain will never make game popular, cause no one matters. Tetris has no imba graphics and no imba systems - it has simple and addictive gameplay. Tkok has not.

Overall, to avoid being off topic:

I suppose I should explain my rating for DotA...so here it comes:
Terrain: obvious 1 or maybe 2 / 5. Just look at it please.
Interface: What interface? You mean regular non changed Warcraft 3 interface? 0/5
Heroes and gameplay: FAERIE DRAGON BEST HERO EU. Hilarious idea for a hero. Though this was only judging by models and storyline. Let's judge some more? Alright. The game obviously tried to have certain roles by heroes. Certain heroes can go with no doubts solo against the entire enemy team and vanquish them, others can't go 1 on 1 properly. More flaws? Not a problem. The irony is that the Intelligence heroes do not rely on Intelligence...at all. They just rush Dagon/Other OP item and live with it. At start, their spells can pretty much harass 15-25% of health. End game, a well build Huskar with Hood of Defiance won't take more than 5% of health from for example Lich's Frost Nova. I've got 1 thing to say positive about it though. Some heroes are quite fun to play, and have some interesting spell ideas. But overall remains ~2 or 3 /5
Art: Ehm...yeah....non existent. Except for the fan arts, there's nothing more to it.
Balance: Huskar low on health gains literally ~100% attack speed and similar damage amount. Satanic on active grants 200% lifesteal. Black King Bar 10 seconds invulnerable to CC effects. Judging by your other posts, and by that intelligence, I assumed this is not enough for your tiny brain to understand, so let me try this way. Combine those items and heroes -> solo against entire enemy team. Fact: If you're denying this, it means you can't do it, and I've actually done it a whole lot of times. Believe it or not but I was playing DotA too much when it was popular.

I think the overall deserves 2/5 after all. Remember, it's not Icefrog who made it popular, it's the community who found the game rather fun, and retard-friendly.

U think that interface you should count same as real map components, omg? What a freaking madness in ur stupid judgment? Who the hell matters about interface? Never (!) interface add quality to the map. Artistic part of project is nothing and counts really low. 100 unique modells, 100 textures, 1000 icons and textures, loadscreen and interface - this whole pack is just a MB of map, not MB of joyment and intresting gameplay. If your tiny stupid brain cannot understand what means graphics in some game, then u can keep hatin everything, which has not, but still become much more better, than new games. Lineage2 had simple and bad graphics (till upgrade for unreal engine 3), was playable and addicting game. Diablo 2 after few years was looking like oldschool shit - a lot of gamers keep playing till now. Counter Strike 1.6. And some newbies will cry, that AWP kills in one hit, that knife stab from back kills in one hit.

Gameplay and heroes: prepare your anus, newbie. What a popular opinion, that there is something imbalanced in dota.. I love these pathetic newbies. Instead of finding way to win, instead of at least try understand the game theory, reading guides, try communicate with team - they just start cry about imbalance. And imbalance does not exist when there is same level players, with same knowing of what the fuck they do here, and why there is a 5 players versus 5 players, and what profit upcomes from a team.
The only fkin thing that hardly matters in dota - the proper pick.

And no, there is no really chance of 1 hero kill 5 with same playing skills. If 1 kill 5 that means that these five - just humiliated noobs, such as you.
Just understand few things.: satanic has an crazy worth of 5800, that is the first (5800 it is late-game item for at least 11 level)
Second: huskar is a hero, who just need simple way to kill - he uses ulti, u using bm, he keep hitting (in hope of increasing dmg), and when his life comes down - just make a procast, that is all. Believe me, Naix can make much more terror.



But well, overall it is looks funny, when shitmakers triyng judge game by, frxmpl, landscape. And by a playable component of a landscape it deserves DC too, these pathways in woods, these verified locations of each destructible. No one cares of how good it looks, there is arcade game, it looks ok? ok. So, no questions.

 

[Binsu]

Well, I can just say DotA for me is 4/5.... its because the terrain is somehow simple and still empty at some point but DotA is really fun to play.

 

[Vinz]

0/5. Why? It doesn't give credit to hive members who made models for it. Period.