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Why do we have to go this all over again?
DoTards, Nitpickers, stupid people...
there are many reasons.
Why do we have to go this all over again?
DotA has trash codes. period.
It's weird how no one has still brought LoL up. I was expecting a fight against LoL kids and DotA fanatics like in every thread like this.
@Almia:
Everyone who understands deprotecting art even a bit knows how DotA script code looks like. Both custom systems and spells aren't highest quatily yes, but as mentioned above - they are good enough.
DotA doesn't use newest systems/improved versions of already imported ones. It would surely speed up some things, but it's nothing significant nor affects gameplay in any significant way.
All spells in dota are MUI and 100% leak free..
DotA spells are pure shit when it comes to coding.
The Knockback system for Barathrum alone is so bad, it can't handle 10-20 units at a time without huge FPS drops because it relies heavily on trigger evaluations and executions. The map could be WAY more efficient than it is today.
I'm basing this on the fact that I've actually read the code.
#Facts
But in the normal game, you won't get 10-20 units being knocked back. So it's not a major issue.
I get that quite a lot really
Especially when my allies are carries who farm at the wrong times and end up having to clear huge waves of 30 units in the base destroying our towers while we struggle to make money and defend against the overpowered enemy heroes we fed earlier ;____;
Who said it wasn't? Pretty sure no one did.For those of you who will argue by saying it's not balanced
even that some parts are not balanced like ursa it is so far best and most played map on wc3. Better even than dday
1. Your own low skill is SO objective problem.Who said it wasn't? Pretty sure no one did.
I'd give DotA a 3/5. I never liked it for a few major reasons.
1. Probably the worst was denying creeps. While this certainly doesn't make the game objectively "bad", it's my preference. I'm lazy and trying to kill and deny is just a pain in the ass.
2. I hated some of the heroes. The girl that shot herself and the hydralisk being the ones that come to mind. I'm sure there were others.
3. There was no bonuses for magic (correct me if I'm wrong). Mages were relegated to support roles late game while everyone else bought damage since their spells did so little compared to item'd up caries. I hated this a lot.
If we're allowed to compare to other maps... EotA was my favorite WC3 map. I still play it from time to time.
Dota is best wc3 map ever, it doesnt have most detailed terrain or maybe inventory, but it is done in perfect wc3 stile and have great game play, and it is one of the main reasons why is wc3 alive.
People just want to say something agains dota to show how smart they are, but on opponent side. Dota have many bounds because of wc3(spell power, cd reduction) but even like that it is great map. All who try to say different just want to argue or they are jaleous, I would write much more things bat I am on mobile. Magtheridon96, who cares if you pc can handle 35 knockbacks in seconds, if in reall game only 1 happens in 3 seconds. Perfect coding is needed only for spell section here. Good map doesnt have to have perect coding or terrain, it is enough to it has good gameplay. Peekey I agree with all things you told.
HahahaIcefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular..
Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps...
Ow, this really affects me. I bought a Warcraft that its name is DOTA automatically and also ts shortcut so now I am an idiot?.... Ow....![]()
Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps..
Anyway guys thanks a lot for the comment.. please just share your ideas and thoughts about dota..
Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular.. so i know he can code the latest screen selection for heroes.. but why he don't do that?.. Tavern Selection is just fine and doesn't cause confuse, lag, and bugs..
Icefrog wants to make the game easy to understand and even a grade 3 pupil can play it..
I don't know... its up to you..
Most Idiot people who plays dota.. change the name of Warcraft III shortcut in their Desktop to DotA... and it hurts a lot.. knowing to know that people have forgot other maps like campaigns and single players maps..
Anyway guys thanks a lot for the comment.. please just share your ideas and thoughts about dota..
Icefrog is a best coder.. he is the reason why dota is now popular.. so i know he can code the latest screen selection for heroes.. but why he don't do that?.. Tavern Selection is just fine and doesn't cause confuse, lag, and bugs..
Icefrog wants to make the game easy to understand and even a grade 3 pupil can play it..
I'll rate it DC4.5/5 needs more girls kissing girls
1/5 would not play
Oh, you think this is better?
Yes.
Not to mention *cough cough* hosted project *cough* is better.
Anyhow, let's not go off topic. I said 2/5 would not bang, that's all you need to know about my opinion of DotA.
Why the hell are you so jaleous: tell me what is 1/5:
terrain: impossible
heroes/coding: impossible
gameplay: even more impossible
if dota is 1/5 then all maps on hivework shop wouldn't reach 0/5, you just want to argue and to say something agains something good, just to feel special, if you ever make map I will rate it 0/5 because it cannot be better and more popular than dota.
Just to know I haven't played dota for months.
Who cares.
@PeeKey, neither will his opinion change urs, not urs his. It's "say ur opinion about ****" thread.
But you got a point - DotA is a community project, many forget about it; without players and their feedback, there would be no "dota fan site" nor the popularity DotA has shown over years. Projects linked above cant be compared to IceFrog's, which was developed by many for such a long time. It's just laughable.
In the reality your own project is too low
And your own opinion has no worth
you just love your own project, and hate everything that is obviously better.
Jealousy and lowskilled blind mapmaker.
Perfect explanation dude.Ok I'll explain.
Terrain: ok
heroes: ok
Topic about it was posted in off-topic: 0/5
This sums up as 1/5
i suppose i should explain my rating for dota...so here it comes:
Terrain: Obvious 1 or maybe 2 / 5. Just look at it please.
Interface: What interface? You mean regular non changed warcraft 3 interface? 0/5
heroes and gameplay: Faerie dragon best hero eu. Hilarious idea for a hero. Though this was only judging by models and storyline. Let's judge some more? Alright. The game obviously tried to have certain roles by heroes. Certain heroes can go with no doubts solo against the entire enemy team and vanquish them, others can't go 1 on 1 properly. More flaws? Not a problem. The irony is that the intelligence heroes do not rely on intelligence...at all. They just rush dagon/other op item and live with it. At start, their spells can pretty much harass 15-25% of health. End game, a well build huskar with hood of defiance won't take more than 5% of health from for example lich's frost nova. I've got 1 thing to say positive about it though. Some heroes are quite fun to play, and have some interesting spell ideas. But overall remains ~2 or 3 /5
art: Ehm...yeah....non existent. Except for the fan arts, there's nothing more to it.
Balance: Huskar low on health gains literally ~100% attack speed and similar damage amount. Satanic on active grants 200% lifesteal. Black king bar 10 seconds invulnerable to cc effects. Judging by your other posts, and by that intelligence, i assumed this is not enough for your tiny brain to understand, so let me try this way. Combine those items and heroes -> solo against entire enemy team. Fact: If you're denying this, it means you can't do it, and i've actually done it a whole lot of times. Believe it or not but i was playing dota too much when it was popular.
hail dota the best game in the world wow its so fun!!!
5/5 original concept dota was the first AOS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/5 fun ggameplay addicing VEry fun gameplay it lamost emulates CRACK scientists say
0/5 all other maps on hive as All who hate dota are "low skill map makers"!!! now let me link someones personal map to prove my point!!! im such a nice guy !!
5/5 PERFECT visuals and MASTER terrain
overall i give dota 5/5 and directors cut rating i think i mean it's the best game on wc3, look at how many players it has. from my experience a games playerbase determnes how good it is, such as WoW, Call of Duty, Halo 4
On the other hand, I admire other RPGs like TKoK and Gaias Retaliation. Those are much better projects than DotA....it can't be compared... the terrain in Gaias, the systems in TKoK....DotA is just a piece of crap compared to them.
U think that interface you should count same as real map components, omg?Overall, to avoid being off topic:
I suppose I should explain my rating for DotA...so here it comes:
Terrain: obvious 1 or maybe 2 / 5. Just look at it please.
Interface: What interface? You mean regular non changed Warcraft 3 interface? 0/5
Heroes and gameplay: FAERIE DRAGON BEST HERO EU. Hilarious idea for a hero. Though this was only judging by models and storyline. Let's judge some more? Alright. The game obviously tried to have certain roles by heroes. Certain heroes can go with no doubts solo against the entire enemy team and vanquish them, others can't go 1 on 1 properly. More flaws? Not a problem. The irony is that the Intelligence heroes do not rely on Intelligence...at all. They just rush Dagon/Other OP item and live with it. At start, their spells can pretty much harass 15-25% of health. End game, a well build Huskar with Hood of Defiance won't take more than 5% of health from for example Lich's Frost Nova. I've got 1 thing to say positive about it though. Some heroes are quite fun to play, and have some interesting spell ideas. But overall remains ~2 or 3 /5
Art: Ehm...yeah....non existent. Except for the fan arts, there's nothing more to it.
Balance: Huskar low on health gains literally ~100% attack speed and similar damage amount. Satanic on active grants 200% lifesteal. Black King Bar 10 seconds invulnerable to CC effects. Judging by your other posts, and by that intelligence, I assumed this is not enough for your tiny brain to understand, so let me try this way. Combine those items and heroes -> solo against entire enemy team. Fact: If you're denying this, it means you can't do it, and I've actually done it a whole lot of times. Believe it or not but I was playing DotA too much when it was popular.
I think the overall deserves 2/5 after all. Remember, it's not Icefrog who made it popular, it's the community who found the game rather fun, and retard-friendly.