Hive's rep specifications (ignore this one)

[Diegoit]

Hello all, im here to suggest the "Rep specifications".

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How "dedication" could help?
-It can increases the chances of being helped and be easily recognized as someone who really needs the things he request.







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[General Frank]

Quite honestly, I think this is impractical and overcomplicated in its entirety.

You can make requests and even bump them, but there is NEVER a guarantee ANYWHERE that you get help. Many people are also very very impatient, change their mind midway and just clutter the whole request/modelling/code sections with their hard-to-understand, reasonless mumbling.
If you want to request resource or code, YOU have to show people the progress of your project so that they don't work for nothing.
I would suggest everybody to go past and ignore a request that is not written in an understandable structure and has proof and work in progress images.

We don't need a split-up rep system. It is fine as it is.
Also, rep is also quite pointless.
Do you really need to show off your e-peen to everybody? If you do, is there nothing more desirable for you on the Hive?

 

[Daffa]

Pain > Gain
Nope.

 

[Diegoit]

Pain > Gain
Nope.

No pain no gain.

 

[General Frank]

So, tell me, why do you always go haywire when no one answers your requests? Maybe it is time to rethink how YOU treat this site and its community.

 

[Daffa]

No pain no gain.

I refer to the pact it causes more pain than the gain it gives to the community. Splitting reps won't be beneficial for anything in the long run.

"Dedication"... When I hear that name, I wonder how you can get the value of ones' dedication using only algorithms.

 

[General Frank]

You can't.
It is something people spew out that have no idea of the community, hard work or both.

 

[Diegoit]

Forget all about other reps specifications, im talking about Dedication.

 

[Daffa]

You cannot easily quantify "Dedication". If you can, give the necessary Key Performance Indicators for it.
Even if you have the necessary KPI, it won't accurately reflect "Dedication" itself.

 

[Shar Dundred]

No.

 

[Diegoit]

Ok.

 

[General Frank]

Forget all about other reps specifications, im talking about Dedication.

You're changing the subject because you just realized that you failed to understand the underlying quality behind the community, this community.
You have tried to search for a way to give you a blank check to justify to shout and be angry at people (almost everybody bar non) who do not want to fulfil your requests.
And yet again you simply failed to realize that you need to some forth with work on your own. And, oh boy, how many times have YOU tried, changed and tried again to get some request done. How many times did you succeeded? Close to zero.

And dedication? What the hell? If you measure such value of dedication of how many posts per minute can make or how many fruitless threads are started you should have 9001 points of useless dedication points. Most of your posts are hollow anyway. Can you measure that or do you just want bigger and bigger numbers to falsely inflate your ego?
People who are really dedicated to this site and to this one community DO NOT REALLY need to have some sort of stupid star/moon/swastika below their profiles to show how much they work for the community. If you are here to "get fame cuz ur so thirsty" you are in the wrong place and you should reconsider how you act here and threat this place.

 

[Diegoit]

You're changing the subject because you just realized that you failed to understand the underlying quality behind the community, this community.
You have tried to search for a way to give you a blank check to justify to shout and be angry at people (almost everybody bar non) who do not want to fulfil your requests.
And yet again you simply failed to realize that you need to some forth with work on your own. And, oh boy, how many times have YOU tried, changed and tried again to get some request done. How many times did you succeeded? Close to zero.

And dedication? What the hell? If you measure such value of dedication of how many posts per minute can make or how many fruitless threads are started you should have 9001 points of useless dedication points. Most of your posts are hollow anyway. Can you measure that or do you just want bigger and bigger numbers to falsely inflate your ego?
People who are really dedicated to this site and to this one community DO NOT REALLY need to have some sort of stupid star/moon/swastika below their profiles to show how much they work for the community. If you are here to "get fame cuz ur so thirsty" you are in the wrong place and you should reconsider how you act here and threat this place.

Confirmed. u-h-m

PD: THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION, you do not know how to differentiate between suggestion and request?

About my posts: I try to make users happy to motivate them not like you who are annoyed when you see them (models). Do your work with enthusiasm, if you do not like it just give it to another

 

[Shar Dundred]

Enough.

 

[Diegoit]

Enough.

Yeah.

 

[GhostWolf]

Lol. It's this thread. Again.

 

[General Frank]

Confirmed. u-h-m

PD: THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION, you do not know how to differentiate between suggestion and request?

About my posts: I try to make users happy to motivate them not like you who are annoyed when you see them (models). Do your work with enthusiasm, if you do not like it just give it to another

You're not really trying to make people happy. You are just trying to make yourself happy.
Again, I would have nothing against you requesting, but I an others have recognized you as potentially troublesome, because you never even bother to show something coming from you.
I am trying to protect the time of others so they don't waste it fruitlessly.

 

[KILLCIDE]

I can not begin to tell you how many hours I "wasted" on creating systems / spells for projects led by ambitious, new users. I put quotiations around wasted because although the projects would inevitably die, I enjoyed learning the new techniques / logic I had to come up with to fulfill their request. What a perfect world it would be for the new user had all the experienced users of Hive have the same mind-framing as I. Of course, that is not the case, and many would argue that this would not be perfect because the new user would not grow as an individual.

I do not think I am wrong to think another user is most likely to fulfill the request of another if they see that their time would not be wasted on a dying project. With this in mind, implementing such a feature would be wasteful as people will naturally recognize your contributions to the site. Keep up your activity, give back, and people will be more willing to help you.

 

[Diegoit]

I can not begin to tell you how many hours I "wasted" on creating systems / spells for projects led by ambitious, new users. I put quotiations around wasted because although the projects would inevitably die, I enjoyed learning the new techniques / logic I had to come up with to fulfill their request. What a perfect world it would be for the new user had all the experienced users of Hive have the same mind-framing as I. Of course, that is not the case, and many would argue that this would not be perfect because the new user would not grow as an individual.

I do not think I am wrong to think another user is most likely to fulfill the request of another if they see that their time would not be wasted on a dying project. With this in mind, implementing such a feature would be wasteful as people will naturally recognize your contributions to the site. Keep up your activity, give back, and people will be more willing to help you.

-Thanks for that.

 

[Ether]

Man, you have to work on your own. As I do, I don't really like making requests. Instead, try to learn and take some risks.
But questions are more powerful, people prefer 'more' to answer or speak their minds rather than to listen to an individual's thoughts and reactions.
Feel free to ask questions about your models or projects, asking someone to 'do' your projects really gives a small chance of fulfilling it.

Good luck, man.!

 

[HappyTauren]

People are more likely to help you if they see you're a creator, and not a resource sink, and let me tell you, nobody likes resource sinks. For example, I don't see your resources in your signature, I see REQUESTS. Don't you think that rises a red flag? I haven't made too many resources myself, but I am pretty sure I have made more than you, and you don't see me making requests because I always try to learn how to make stuff I need myself, for myself.

If General Frank requested some code to be done for his map, then showed us the map, and 20+ models he created specifically for it, I would be very likely to take him up on his offer. On the other hand, you're a newcomer with nothing that really stands out, aside from an overly ambitious 8-10 race map which I am not only not very interested in because I play different kinds of things, but I honestly don't think is going to be very good.

 

[chobibo]

I don't get it, what's it supposed to indicate?

 

[Cherrymage]

What? Rep is enough tho, also something like rep or "Dedication Level" won't be ever accurate

 

[Rui]

Every once in a while someone decides reputation needs a partner. Be it a second reputation or an endless flow of awards (the last of which I strongly opposed with critiques that ended up being founded ). Conversely, the award panel is somewhat in need of a cleanup.

Reputation is inaccurate, no doubt, and tends to favor contributions pleasing to the eye over equally (or more) important others. But we need a well thought out solution that keeps reputation's attractiveness and simplicity. What you're proposing just douses the system in more complexity and does not resolve the underlying problems.

 

[HappyTauren]

The best approach to rep is to approach it like most forums always did - don't care about it, don't enforce any rules around it, don't tout it as something important, etc. Because in the end it really doesn't matter at all.