Greek Town Center

[Moderator]

13:50, 6th Jul 2014
MiniMage: Same as the other ones.

 

[Fingolfin]

Ingame screen:

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[Solu9]

These are some mighty fine buildings sir. Very nicely done.
The only problem I can see is finding enough fitting unit models to go with the structures.

On their own, they rock.

 

[Pson]

The more I see them the more I'd like to use them. Might try to find a solution with 3-4 extra building models I'd need for now, and worry later about the last 3 civs. 5/5 great job for looks, usefulness and ancient era love. Great screenshot setting as well.

 

[Heinvers]

Pretty.

 

[Fingolfin]

@Solu9: I am taking care of that too:

Pics

Bonus, but not contemporary

I am also making some with ingame textures, but DAMN, it is hard to find bronze and plain fabric in wc3. I am using a dwarf beard for linen and the trim from the graveyard for breastplate. I might end up just tinting some metal textures.

@Pson: if there are any particular buildings you need, you can always ask and i will see what i can do. I can still see you problem design-wise. It is possible though to "stretch" the top part of the buildings upwards in magos model editor, if you want them to be less flat. You can also do do edits to the skins and overwrite them, such as pasting the barracks roof over the one in the CityBuildings texture and make it teamcolored.

 

[Solu9]

I am stunned. Your are creating a whole civilization. You know playing God is wrong don't you?
Anyway. They look really nice so far. Actually I can't believe you made them only using ingame textures.
Keep it up!

 

[Fingolfin]

lol no, THOSE are not with ingame textures, but i am doing that too, with another model based on the same mesh. Glad you like them still!

EDIT: you can see the whole set here.

 

[Solu9]

Hah, so that's why I couldn't believe it
That's quite an impressive album you have there Fingol. I can't wait to see them uploaded.
Now if you'll excuse me. I'm still dizzy from seeing so many quality models at once.

 

[Edge45]

What the?!, 4/5 [*fainted*]

 

[Pson]

@Pson: if there are any particular buildings you need, you can always ask and i will see what i can do. I can still see you problem design-wise. It is possible though to "stretch" the top part of the buildings upwards in magos model editor, if you want them to be less flat. You can also do do edits to the skins and overwrite them, such as pasting the barracks roof over the one in the CityBuildings texture and make it teamcolored.

You've made or will make
*Town Center
*Barracks
*Archery Range
*Stables
*Temple
*Siege Workshop
*House
*Watchtower
*Dock

I'll probably use all of them besides the Siege Workshop.

I'd also need (seems they're more than I thought):
*Fortress
*Market
*Storehouse
*Academy (tech/philosopher one, not military)
*Blacksmith

*Tower variation(s)/upgrade(s) scout/guard/ballista versions (not that important)
*House variation/upgrade, farm->villa (not that important)

If you're interested in making some of them I'd be grateful, if not, I'll find someone do the merge thing you suggested. Glad you're making units with in game textures as well. I've got some specially made/edited for my map (so if anyone looks for units to match with this building set I can provide some) but most lack high polish level and historical details.

Edit: I think all of them besides the archery could use a better portrait.

 

[sunshinex3]

so this is were you have been nice models now get back to halo.
one more thing
is this town hall a 3 part model does it upgrade?

 

[Pharaoh_]

We love you in Greece, Fingolfin :>

 

[sunshinex3]

well looks like im going to have to try and fit an Olympian race in too.

 

[Pson]

One more small flaw: To have a decent size for the structures, the normal building collision paths are too small to cover their entire size. Also due to direction they wouldn't cover the town center's "garden" edges anyway, so units will walk through the little trees. (There could be simple fixes to those things though, as they are some of the editor fields I'm unfamiliar with).

Also, any suggestions on what shadows to use with them?

 

[Kyrbi0]

This is insane. These are really good, and with in-game textures no less? I almost can't believe it. Yay TC!

Wish I had a place for them. Let me know if you decide to 'branch out'. : )

 

[Shadow Fury]

Those greek buildings you made remind me of Empire Earth, a game I played long ago. Anyway, I really like those buildings 5/5

 

[Deleted member 237964]

I like it.It reminds me of "Age of Empires' bronze age town center.Looks exacly like it.Good work.Same goes for other Greek buildings.

 

[The General]

Damn Nice 4/5 also I think that Greek ruins could be nice I imagined a ruined Greek civilization map

 

[Fingolfin]

One more small flaw: To have a decent size for the structures, the normal building collision paths are too small to cover their entire size. Also due to direction they wouldn't cover the town center's "garden" edges anyway, so units will walk through the little trees. (There could be simple fixes to those things though, as they are some of the editor fields I'm unfamiliar with).

Also, any suggestions on what shadows to use with them?

I forgot to mention in the post, that i was already planning to make a market, blacksmith and storehouse aswell. We will see about the fortress and academy/university.

About the pathing texture, it is easy to make your own and it can be done in paint. First, create a document which has the same pixel dimensions as the tile width you want your pathing texture to be, like 24x24. It is safest to make them square. Start with painting all pixels black, then sample the magenta color which "unpathable" pathing has in wc3 (you can open a path texture in magos model editor, export it as bmp, open it in paint or photoshop, and use the eyedropper tool to get the color). Paint the pixels you want unpathable in magenta, black pixels will be unused. Do the same procedure to sample the blue, "unbuildable" color and paint it where you need it. Save the image, as .tga if you are using photoshop or jpeg if you are using paint (and then just google "tga converter" and use any online tool to get it into a tga). Finally import it to your map and use it.

 

[Deolrin]

@Solu9: I am taking care of that too:

Pics

Bonus, but not contemporary

I am also making some with ingame textures, but DAMN, it is hard to find bronze and plain fabric in wc3. I am using a dwarf beard for linen and the trim from the graveyard for breastplate. I might end up just tinting some metal textures.

@Pson: if there are any particular buildings you need, you can always ask and i will see what i can do. I can still see you problem design-wise. It is possible though to "stretch" the top part of the buildings upwards in magos model editor, if you want them to be less flat. You can also do do edits to the skins and overwrite them, such as pasting the barracks roof over the one in the CityBuildings texture and make it teamcolored.

Have you tried the human blacksmith for bronze?

Oh, and by the way, those Greek\Roman models look incredible. I was thinking about re-creating the greek Colossus for Warcraft a while ago, just because it's such a damn cool unit, and I would love to see any other AoM or just history-inspired units and models you could come up with. :O
On another note, I think it would be really cool if you included a few different variations for the dwelling houses, by using animation sets or just releasing them separately. 3-5 different houses would be incredible, with minor variations like outside decors, shape, roof texture, etc.

 

[Eagle XI]

I can only say "Well done" about this set.
Later on dont forget to produce the fitting wall doodads too.

EDIT: Forgot to ask: Will you do an Egyptian set ?

 

[Fingolfin]

Have you tried the human blacksmith for bronze?

Oh, and by the way, those Greek\Roman models look incredible. I was thinking about re-creating the greek Colossus for Warcraft a while ago, just because it's such a damn cool unit, and I would love to see any other AoM or just history-inspired units and models you could come up with. :O
On another note, I think it would be really cool if you included a few different variations for the dwelling houses, by using animation sets or just releasing them separately. 3-5 different houses would be incredible, with minor variations like outside decors, shape, roof texture, etc.

One cool unit i would love to see made is the Talos - a giant bronze golem created by Zeus to guard the island of Crete. It would march the beaches and throw rocks at approaching ships, or kill sailors by grabbing them and burning them against his armor which would have gone glowing hot in the sun.

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But yeah, i could propably make at least two different houses - partially because i cannot seem to settle for a single design. Part of me want them to be T or L-shaped like in AoM, part wants them to be enclosed with a small yard like the ones in 0.a.d (which is more historical).

@Eagle: I want to! But ultimately it depends on wether i can find appropriate textures or not, and i can also not make any promises until i have completed the greek race. Sometimes i lose interest after a few weeks of working on a project, and it can take some time before i finish it. I am confident that i will finish the buildings i have set up to make though.

By wall doodads, do you mean like, if you want to make a building interior terrain? Because that would not be too hard for me to fix, although they might not look so great on their own.

 

[Skypsi]

All these models are amazing, good job!

 

[GhostThruster]

btw for bronze texture, there's the statue doodad model (the one with a sword being held at the chest and pointed downwards, and the guy is wearing a helmet). that might do

i reckon tho that a single texture for all ur units (like with the uruks) wud be easier to make, and since u can wrap it to ur liking, require less polys than if u were to use bits n pieces from ingame

 

[Darkfang]

Age of Warcraft? FTW xD

 

[Splub]

One cool unit i would love to see made is the Talos - a giant bronze golem created by Zeus to guard the island of Crete. It would march the beaches and throw rocks at approaching ships, or kill sailors by grabbing them and burning them against his armor which would have gone glowing hot in the sun.

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Neither of these are exact but I've found several models that resemble what you speak of.

Nice Town Hall by the way.

 

[Fingolfin]

Those are pretty nice, though they don't really capture the magnificense of what i had in mind.

Thank you all for your comments! You are the best.

 

[Deolrin]

Oh, wow. Those Stone and Iron golems from HOMM3 look great. :O

 

[GhostThruster]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/icons-541/btnspartan-254304/

An icon thatll compliment ur greek soldier, and hopefully motivate u to release it quicker

 

[Fingolfin]

That is really cool. I know i repped you for it, but perhaps you cannot see that since you disabled it. I like that your highlights are so sharp, and it is nice to know you don't discriminate between spartans, wether they be from the future or the past.

 

[misterich]

One question, does this town hall has got 3 tiers? I cannot see on the screenshot.
And maybe a second one, can you also make egyptian buldings like in AoM? I do not know how often I have missed them.

 

[jonbon29]

Very nice building goes well with your tress.

 

[Caballero]

Awesome work! It is a pity that there are no upgrades (tiers).
It would be even better with them!