Global Warming

[Disasterpiece512]

Is global warming a myth? Is it true?

I personally think it is caused by goblins having barbeque parties at the north pole. What do you think?

(This is obviously, a dumb thread, but I want to hear opinions on the subject, no matter how stupid they are, because it's just a dumb subject.)

 

[Megafyr]

Global warming is true... But what the hell, the extra carbon that is being added to the atmosphere was once part of it anyway. Still global warming threathens the lifestyle of many, I mean, people depending on a constant sea level and what not. The alternative is that I, a heavy consumer of everything that is pollution related, have to change my lifestyle, and the question is if I am willing to do that.

It's all a matter of lifestyle really, and it's quite simple. If you want to slow down the global warming, avoid using your car too much. The alternative is climate refugees, and I'm sure all people who think global warming is fake and gay are very fond of all those new citizens!

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Global Warming is true except in Norway. In Norway it's so cold it haven't been this cold in 50 years. We had a snowstorm not too long ago (Ye, in May).

On-Topic again, If we continue to pollute the air it will eventually turn around and we will get a new ice age (and Norway will be first!!!). Why? Because the atmosphere will become so dense that light can't penetrate it anymore and instead of keeping the heat inside it will prevent heat from coming in. Then after maaaany years all the crap in the atmosphere will fall down to the ground and those animals who survived will rule the Earth. Simple as that.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

*ahem*
First, just a slight correction: we had snow in May no more than fourteen years ago, TRD, we're not seeing anything unique this year. Weather varies from year to year, and just because this winter was cold it doesn't mean it's because of the Global Warming. Heck, the fact that it was this cold fifty years ago is data enough to raise doubt. It has not gotten any colder nor any warmer in fifty years, one could claim.

I'm not trying to say we shouldn't do anything, nor am I claiming that Global Warming is true or false, I'm just throwing some data out here, 'cause you can't really discuss a topic without any data - not to mention knowing both (or all) sides of the matter. Claiming Global Warming is true because we haven't had such a cold winter in fifty years, is completely absurd. What did we do, during these fifty years, that kept Global Warming from progressing? What are we doing right now that is making sure it does progress? Are we not trying to prevent Global Warming by reducing emission of climate gasses? If that's what makes this winter colder, then we're doing it wrong. Keep in mind all these questions and conclusions are based on this winter being proof of Global Warming. As far as I'm concerned, it is not. This year's winter is nothing but how nature is, it is fluctuating. You have to consider the whole progression through all the years Earth has existed, at least since the last major Ice Age, and then calculate how much change human actions have brought into that. I have no data on that, but there's probably enough to fill years of study out there. Therefore I'll just make examples of how I think it should be interpreted, as a non-expert.

If we assume the Earth's average global temperature rises with one degree Celsius every hundred years by default, then we could assume that the temperatures in year 0 should be 20.1 degrees lower than what the average is today (probably an absurdly exaggerated growth, but let's go with it). Are you with me on that? Two thousand and ten years, twenty hundred and one tenth of a hundred, right?

Let's say the temperature today had grown by 25 degrees, that means there's four point nine degrees that nature has not caused itself (following our example). Then we'd have to find out whether this change has occurred over the course of two thousand and ten years, only a year or a period of several years. This is significant why? Because obviously, we would have to compare it to what humans have done during these years where the change is prominent. Let's assume the temperature jumped three degrees more than default during a course of ten years, and the first of those ten years was the birth of a new technology that probably resulted in a larger growth of climate gasses in our atmosphere. That would be a quite clear indication of human involvement in Global Warming.

I'd love to go on, but I don't really have time for this right now, and you guys won't read it if it exceeds a certain length. Have fun with it, and remain civilized.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

shiiK, it's not only this year it has been cold. The past 3 years have sucked.

I'll update my post after I've played SC2.

 

[Tleno]

Everybody knows that global warming was made up by suncream producing corporations.
Everybody who thinks otherwise is their agent.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Hah! As long I'll reach my 100 years-old mark I don't care about it.

As one person I can't do anything about the environment or China.

 

[DarkAngelAzazel]

Hah! As long I'll reach my 100 years-old mark I don't care about it.

As one person I can't do anything about the environment or China.

You definded the problem quiet good. The problem now is that nearly 95% of the world population thinks like this.
However actions againt global warming can be easy. e.g. elect the right party to government or use bicicly once in a time.

And the opinion that global warming is just a myth is rubish.
There are lots of scientific studies which prove the existence and the (americans) who think different do not (in my opinion) deserve to vote/express their opinion.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Everybody knows that global warming was made up by suncream producing corporations.
Everybody who thinks otherwise is their agent.

Why would sunscreen manufacturers benefit from Global Warming? If anything, it's the guys producing electric cars, at least they've had some sort of benefit. The governments also make a load of money by adding extra taxes - like if you buy a car that emits a lot of climate gasses compared to another car, you'll pay extra for it because the government wants you to buy the less polluting cars. There's actually a lot of businesses that benefit from Global Warming, but I'm pretty sure sunscreen manufacturers do not.

Yes, I am an agent for sunscreen manufacturers. They pay me extremely well.

I get one pack of sunscreen each summer, for FREE!

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Oh wow, you guys are taking this seriously. This thread was actually meant for stupid theories that would make others laugh.

Buuuut... Yeah, the effects of global warming are noticeable. Weather is getting really screwed up lately. The thing is, the temperature rising is so insanely small that we'll probably be seeing the true effects of global warming in about 100 years if things go like they are today.

Well, global warming is my arch enemy. I hate really high temperatures.

Also, I think tlenos theory was one of the stupid theories. Could people try to keep that up?

 

[Deleted member 157129]

I don't make jokes about serious issues.

Global Warming is what I get when.. you know, chicks and beer.

 

[TwistedImage]

There was snow the seventeenth of May last year or two years ago. That does not make fourteen to me.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Forgot to mention it depends on where you live. Oh, and there being snow and it actually snowing is also different things. I can't remember seeing it snow in May since 1996, and that was on the seventeenth. We lived in Porsgrunn and Dad was driving in a snowstorm from Kongsberg. Though there might have been snowfalls during May during those years between as well, I just haven't noticed.

 

[Dentothor]

Personally, Global warming is a natural course of the earth balancing itself out. it will eventually be over once we find a way to reduce what we put into the atmosphere, or nature will reduce it for us. (in short, kill off people to reduce the emmisions)

And im kinda in canada, so we dont feel it that much

 

[TwistedImage]

I live in Jessheim and it was snowing then.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

It doesn't seem like the Global Warming is doing ANYTHING AT ALL to the weather we are going to have in Norway the 17th of May. They have predicted rain OVER ALL OF NORWAY. Just like every other year. There might come some snow too btw.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Everyone gets surprise butts.. sun on 17th May, you'll see.

 

[Megafyr]

Who cares about the weather the 17th? That's when we rest from yesterdays party going hard as fuck!!!

 

[TwistedImage]

The Seventeenth is just like any other day except that there are retards parading outside! D:

 

[Deleted member 157129]

The Seventeenth always got pumped up more than everywhere else in Porsgrunn, because there's two parades .. the regular one early in the morning with children and teachers marching, then later all kinds of organisations, "Russ" and .. people, walking through town sort of like those foreign parades with carnival-like appearance. Oh and although there was always rain in the morning on the Seventeenth, the evening parade always had sun. Then again, I stopped caring for the Seventeenth, the parades anyway, long before we moved to Oslo.

RIGHT, so what does this have to do with Global Warming again?

 

[TwistedImage]

The fact that the skies dump snow on us in midsummer.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Eh, midsummer is pulling strings, I mean.. 20th of March is midspring (Vårjevndøgn). You'll have to wait another month 'till midsummer, 21st of July. Though there was a year we got snow in June or July, in the south that is.. obviously you never know what happens in the north. In the end it just shows that weather indeed fluctuates, and that looking at a few select years and comparing them brings you nowhere nearer proof of Global Warming caused by humans or not.

 

[FreshMobster]

 

[Devine]

I couldn't possibly care less.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Eh, I don't know the validity of Global warming but I often see it used as a scape goat for things like gas companies and combustion fuels in general - it's easy for them to say Global warming is just a theory and make everyone forget about all the other crap caused by CO2 emissions like acid rain and air pollution.

I just know its FACKING HOT, here in the middle of Spring, much hotter then it should be around this time of the year

 

[-Kobas-]

Well maybe it is myth maybe not but few days ago one small city, in my country, hit FUUUU tornado, btw chance for something like that here is 1:100000... -.^???

 

[Etzer]

but it can happen...

 

[Darkness-4ever]

Hopefully all that volcanic ash that darkened the skies in Europe for a while gave them a nice break from the damn heat caused by it.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

Hopefully all that volcanic ash that darkened the skies in Europe for a while gave them a nice break from the damn heat caused by it.

Wait, what? Heat and cold both 'caused by a cloud? Oh, and we're not experiencing any bloody heat, we're experiencing cold weather.

 

[Super-Sheep]

had up to 30c last week

@finalnd where people think that we have polar bears

 

[Deleted member 157129]

had up to 30c last week

@finalnd where people think that we have polar bears

You had thirty degrees Celsius in the shade, in Finland? I think the maximum so far in Norway, this year, is 25 degrees Celsius, but that didn't last.

 

[Etzer]

Finland ain't got polar bears ???
GLOBAL WARMINGS FAULT!!!

 

[Craka_J]

Quite frankly you're a fucking idiot to believe it. This SPRING it snowed in TEXAS. Also, scientists from the United Kingdom reported that the polar ice caps have grown larger this year.

It's just as hot as it usually is during the summer and the winter is just as cold. If anything, it's global cooling. But it isn't. There are no signs of it, just a bunch of morons claiming it's real with no real proof except pollution. It's a publicity stunt and a hoax. Nothing is going wrong drastically (as far as weather goes) and life goes on...

 

[Fussiler1]

Also, scientists from the United Kingdom reported that the polar ice caps have grown larger this year.

Hum.. wasn't that only with Antartica? As far as I heard, the North Pole was melting.

 

[TwistedImage]

Fuck the North Pole, the South Pole is where it's at man.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Global warming is a science scam. While global warming is in fact a real issue, it's not manmade. It's a solar event. Of course, people argue that carbon emissions amplify it, but from everything I've seen, that's wrong.

Every regular scientist (That includes professors. I use the term loosely.) I've ever talked to about it says it's a scam. They also say they can't speak outwardly against it because they get fired. So no one says anything. It's so freaking awkward to talk about it, for them.

"Going green" is a religion now. It's now a moral issue. I'm not one to throw conspiracy theories out there, but if it looks like crap and smells like crap, it's probably crap.

Than again, I'm no scientist, so don't take my word for it.

 

[Etzer]

Actually, around 2000 years ago, the ice melted faster and more then it does today, and it survived.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Actually, around 2000 years ago, the ice melted faster and more then it does today, and it survived.

Not to mention the medieval warm period.

It's a marketing scam.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

The carbon emissions are only a small part of the global warming. Methane and tons of other gases are a lot worse. Those emissions have amplified the global warming and made it come sooner than it should. And yes, this has happened before, the earth gets hotter and the atmosphere is filled with dust and then it gets really cold and stuff freezes, then after many years the skies clear and the dust falls down.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Cows are a huge source of methane gas - either we call cow genocide or we force them to go green or we will all die.


Though global warming may not be the main problem, still you want to control things like carbon emissions and such as they create some pretty nasty pollution which becomes a pain now, and not possibly in the future.

 

[Super-Sheep]

You had thirty degrees Celsius in the shade, in Finland? I think the maximum so far in Norway, this year, is 25 degrees Celsius, but that didn't last.

no, not in shade

 

[The Reborn Devil]

Cows are a huge source of methane gas - either we call cow genocide or we force them to go green or we will all die.


Though global warming may not be the main problem, still you want to control things like carbon emissions and such as they create some pretty nasty pollution which becomes a pain now, and not possibly in the future.

We just need to get fewer cows. Over the years we've gotten a lot more cows because we want their meat and milk (most meat). So now there are waaaay more cows than there used to be.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Even though I ride a bicycle doesn't mean I'm an eco-terrorist.

 

[Deleted member 157129]

no, not in shade

Well then it's not really warm.. you can get near 30C in the sun any time of year, to be honest. Just depends on where you measure it.

 

[Mr. Bob]

The theory of manmade global warming makes me mad. And sad. Very few things make me deeply sad. To the point of tears. I am not trying to be funny either. I am very serious.

We are telling the developing countries not to use their resources. Instead, we tell them to rely on things like solar power and wind energy. In reality, these are not sources that can power a steel factory or an entire city. They can power a few elite people's fridge. By saying, "no Africa, don't use your coal" we are saying, "no Africa, you can not develop". Development is the African dream. We killed it.

We killed it, based off of sketchy science. CO2 is not what causes global warming. Warming causes CO2. If you look stop listening to Al, and start looking at more accurate charts, you see a lag in between the rise in temperature and the rise in CO2. CO2 comes after the warmth.

Then you say, "well then, explain the warmth if it isn't CO2!" The reality is, the climate is always changing, it's a solar event. The sun is what is behind it all. It's not us. The media can try and scare you all they want. The problem is, no one can speak up about it. The theory is like a religion, and if you disagree, your a heretic.

More CO2 comes from volcanoes, dead leaves, and animals than from us, and factories combined. Heck, the ocean creates more than us and all of that other stuff combined many times over.

If the theory of manmade global warming dies, tens of thousands of jobs will be lost. So, it will never die.

We have labeled machinery and industry as evil earth destroyers. Heck, it's gotten to the point where we view the human race as scum that should be wiped from the earth.

By labeling this crap, we are in effect, killing people in the developing countries.

That makes me sad.

 

[Megafyr]

"Human activities release more than 130 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes." http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php Dead leaves and animals are part of the atmosphere and do not add addional carbon, and thus we can not speak of global warming. Remember, the carbon that comes from all living is neutralized by photosynthesis and other reactions that require carbon. Human activity (oil), brings additional carbon from fossiles into the atmosphere, so that the total number of CO2 in the atmosphere increases.

Also, if you want to blame anyone for the bad conditions in developing countries, you should rather blame on protectionism policy and taxes in developed countries. That is another topic though.

 

[deepstrasz]

Global warming is true when the Sun's light bashes trough the ozone layer. If the Sun's intense radiation does not amplify, then we'll have no kind of external warming. If Earth gets off it's trajectory nearer to the Sun we'll have external warming. If Earth's core heats up by Sci-Fi reasons we'll have internal warming. Therefore all must be within reason . As stupid as you think it sounds it's actually not silly.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

Wow, you just resurrected a thread, hehe. Global Warming is a dumb concept. The climate is actually getting colder. If anything, it's Global Cooling.

 

[deepstrasz]

Wow, you just resurrected a thread, hehe. Global Warming is a dumb concept. The climate is actually getting colder. If anything, it's Global Cooling.

No way man ). Maybe in Winter and Autumn time, lol. It snowed at Johannesburg this year and Syberia had a lot of burnt trees this summer. We should call it a global imbalance.

 

[Disasterpiece512]

I'm serious. Temperatures drop every year. Even in summer. Some geologists and weather scientists even say we're heading towards a minor ice age.