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Global Warming - Our Fault?

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Global warming, what’s your point of view on it? Do you believe it’s our own fault? Or is it “God” doing this? :eekani:

Think about it – God can do many things. The dinosaurs might of died from God’s doing, thinking they were imperfect. Now, with our intelligence, we’ve found out many of the reason’s why the dinosaurs have died. Now, little by little He may be taking away the Ozone layer, trying to make us think it is our own faults.
Slowly He could be doing this trying to kill us, thinking again, we are imperfect, and he’ll start all over again with a new creation. So tell me, what do you think is happening with global warming? Our own faults? Or some other being?

Please note: I was using God as an example. It doesn't necessarily have to be Him. It could be something else. But truely, what is your aspect on Global Warming (can be used as G.W.)?
 
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Let's remember guys, the Earth has been on a warming trend since the end of the last major ice age.

The introduction of additional greenhouse gasses by humans in the the last hundred and fifty years or so has just contributed to, certainly not caused, global warming. As the Earth's lifespan continues other ice ages will be inevitable, we'll then be on a "global cooling" trend. One can't discount geology and plate tectonics: they dictate climate change far more than do we peon humans.
 
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I concur Wolverabid.

While humankind indeed poses several environmental threats, let us not forget that mother nature is as her name suggests, like a woman.

She periodically goes on a period, and all hell breaks loose, then she cools down, and then the next month she gets mad again...we children simply maker her madder by wrecking our bedrooms with pollution.
 
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Nay, I must disagree.

According to modern timelines, After the age of the Dinosaurs (warm period) a series of several ice ages occured, (I believe it was during the several rises of certain mammal ages) with warming periods in between.

Though I may have to check up on that.
 
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The introduction of additional greenhouse gasses by humans in the the last hundred and fifty years or so has just contributed to, certainly not caused, global warming. As the Earth's lifespan continues other ice ages will be inevitable, we'll then be on a "global cooling" trend. One can't discount geology and plate tectonics: they dictate climate change far more than do we peon humans.
Don't forget the sun, it allows the Earth to play with weather to begin with.
 
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To add to wolverabid, trees give off CO2 at night. There are quite a lot of trees in the world. More than our cars and factories.

I think pollution is more of the problem. The earth warming is natural IMO. We are killing ourselves and the environment with pollution though.
 
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yes, trees take in C02 during any time of the day I suppose and realease oxygen into the air so we can live.

Modern science has already proven that we did this to ourselves. If you think that god made us think that we discovered a way to find out we did this to ourselves on purpose, then you're obviously crazy.

Remember; before I said I was only using God as a metaphor.
 
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Err, I'm pretty sure trees absorb CO2 Gilles.
Its not sufficient to save the world, but they don't give it off...
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During the day they take it in. At night they let it out. I forgot that it is less. So in general I suppose it actually lessens the amount in the air. Although read these articles (Or skim them like I did).

Here is one article about the rain forests. Link

Another about trees releasing CO2 at night.
 
Sure, there were other ice ages and warm periods, but the temperature rise that has increased over the past 100 years is far more rapid than what would've occurred naturally.

I recall, however, reading something in New Scientist (a magazine) that in about 50 years or so, the sun will have a lack of sun spots, thus emitting less heat. This will slow down and may decrease the effect of the global warming rise, buying us time. Unfortunately this only lasts 10 years? I think.

Regardless, recycling and switching to environmental-friendly energy sources is still a definite positive.
 
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I decided to make a smallish/like informative essay thing

Global Warming –


Human Contributions – Human society is a large contributive to Global Warming. Some main points are Factories, Cars (running on gasoline) and. Factories/Industries are the largest contributors (S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions by Sector, 1997), since they produce some of the most C02 gas. Cars/Transportation is the second largest contributor, weighing in with approximately 470 million metric tons released in 1997. Think of how much that would be now! Thirdly in third place, is Residential Zones. These weighed in 300 metric tons in the late 90s.
-Information taken from S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions

Natural Contributions – Natural Society has not much to offer to Global warming. The only REAL contributors I can think of is Cows and Foliage. Cows are a large contributor because of their diet. Whenever they fart, CO2 is released into the air. Foliage/Plants are another.
To add to wolverabid, trees give off CO2 at night. There are quite a lot of trees in the world. More than our cars and factories. – Gillies
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instead of re-writing the information i took the important stuff from that post and put it together:

I personally do not believe in human aided global warming. It is a fact that the mean global temperature is rising which is causing ice glaciers to melt and a change in weather conditions all over the world, but I personally do not believe that humans have had any effect on this, positive or negative. I have posted my reasons for this before, so here is a quote of exactly why I don’t believe global warming is happening:

Global warming facts:

1. In the roman times the temperature was possibly as much as 3 degrees hotter than it is now.
2. We know that we are currently exiting an ice age which means the planet is naturally warming anyways.
3. A considerably large amount of carbon is needed to produce the insulating effect predicted and we do not produce nearly enough to genuinely effect our atmosphere.
4. The vast majority of the "freak weather" can be attributed to known metrological effects. This includes things such as salt concentrations in the ocean as seen in the film, the day after tomorrow, but we know the effect would not be as epic as we see in the film.
5. Flooding can happen in cycles and tends to shift around the world, the Sahara desert was once the Sahara ocean.
6. Most weather and climate changes are gradual and take thousands of years.
7. Recent evidence shows that the planets temperature overall may be DECREASING even with the strange weather we are experiencing, this is disputed however.
8. The total emissions from human influence are less than 0.1% the total global natural emission.
9. Carbon Dioxide is dissolved into the sea and released in what is known as a dynamic equilibrium; this means there is always a constant amount of Carbon Dioxide in the sea as out of it, and no matter how much carbon you add, the sea will always absorb it to balance this equilibrium.
10. The atmosphere is many many times greater in volume than the volume of Carbon Dioxide we release, a few million tons of carbon is nothing compared to a few trillion tons of atmosphere.

Small Micro organisms are accountable for a lot of carbon intake by locking it in the structures of their shells. Tiny marine organisms like Foraminiferas, Coccoliths and Calcareous Algae capture atmospheric carbon and use it to make their shells. This can be seen by the chalk build-ups which are the fossilised remains of these organisms. One cubic centimetre of chalk can contain one thousand litres of carbon.

Since 1850, it has been estimated, we have released about 100 billion tons of carbon into the atmosphere. Naturally, mostly by Volcanoes, about 200 billion tons of carbon is released into the atmosphere ever year. Our total yearly release of carbon is an estimated 7 billion tons.

Wikipedia said:
The average mass of the atmosphere is about 5,000 trillion metric tons

That means we have put 100,000,000,000 in 5,000,000,000,000,000 (5 Quadrillion) which is 1 ton for every 50,000 tons of atmosphere or 0.002% which is virtually nothing. And that is taking into the consideration that the carbon has just stayed static for the last 157 years; so it hasn't been in any photosynthesis and it hasn't been absorbed into the sea and it hasn't been taken in by sea creatures to make their shells. Even thinking that it has just sat there doing nothing for over a century then we still have only put an extra 0.002% of carbon in the atmosphere, which is really too little to even consider realistically.

For these reasons I don’t believe global warming is happening due to humans producing Carbon Dioxide. However it is important to remember that the global temperature is increasing (supposedly) in part of a cycle which causes ice ages to happen and then disappear. This is because our planet is a closed system and it will always move to balance any changes that happen; this is the reason wind exists. Something happened many years ago which caused our planet to plunge into an ice age, this could have been a meteor impact or a super-volcano but it imbalanced the environment and so the planet plunged into an ice age to re-balance it. We are currently coming out of the ice age into a much milder and warmer time. So we should be expecting to have an increased temperature. I believe this process is natural and part of a giant cycle due to the reasons I mentioned above.

The question for me is how hot is it going to get? At some point the temperature will even out and remain stable but it is unknown when that will happen. It is also unknown if the ice caps will stop melting when this happens; potentially, all the horrible events could happen but we would be unable to stop it as it is natural.
An interesting consideration is the idea of a giant cycle of temperature change. Potentially the temperature could keep increasing naturally and melt all the ice caps; this would disrupt the salinity levels in the sea and hence the cycle of hot water which keeps the northern hemisphere warm via the Gulf Stream (and other deep sea currents). If this were to happen the planet would again be plunged into an ice age due to the lack of heat; this is actually the event that happens in the film “The Day After Tomorrow” and it completely possible, however it would never happen quite as fast as it did in the film. If we entered another ice age the planet would then balance itself by warming up which is exactly what is happening to us now. We do not know if we are in an endless circle of ice ages, it is unlikely, but it is still a possibility. To me this basically means we have no control over the temperature of our planet.

It has been known that at least 3 times in history large stores of methane (which is a more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2) have been released by the billions of tons. One such event supposedly released as much as 10 trillion tons of methane in a single event. While we cannot determine exactly what happened at that time, but we can be sure that the planet has manage to override this change and continue on.

Another thing I think about when it comes to global warming is the fact that the average lifetime of any species is about 100 million years and we have passed that milestone. 30 billion is the common estimate for the number of species that have ever existed, but that figure has been cited as high as 4,000 billion. Whatever cause the 99.9% of species to die out doesn't matter, the fact is that most things end up dying off if they don’t evolve. Of all the natural phenomenon which is much worse than global warming (the KT comet impact killing 95% of species in a single instance for example) animals have strived to evolve. Whether we have caused global warming or not is also irrelevant, we have been here for 100 million years so our time is almost up. The way I see it, we evolve or we die, whether we cause it, or whether a giant meteor does instead.

It is important to realise that we should be controlling our Carbon emissions, I definitely fall in column A. There is absolutely no reason why we should continue using oil, coal and gas when we have the capability to generate energy by alternate means. Oil is being wasted in cars when it could be used to produce pharmaceuticals, plastics and other useful materials; burning it seems like a bit of a waste when we have other uses for oil and other options for energy. Not only that but burning fossil fuels produces other things apart from Carbon Dioxide. Although catalytic converters have reduced toxic emissions, sulphur and nitrogen compounds which can become acid rain when hydrolysed still exist, especially in developing nations. There will be no need to burn fossil fuels in future years hopefully.

One of the main contributors to global warming is the media. Usually taking scant predictions and blowing them out of proportion until people believe the world will end in a week. Taking the consideration that we are causing global warming I do not even think it will be as bad as it has been predicted. As I have said the planet tries to balance things and it will absorb the change. This isn’t to say that nothing will happen, but it is to say that the world won’t end because the massive increase in heat will result in the complete opposite eventually arising; a massive drop in heat. The planet will never be uninhabitable because of the way it reacts to a change to bring about a balance. It is not an easy way to explain but the planet will always find an even medium, no matter how long it takes. After the worst catastrophes such super-volcanoes, comets and floods the world has persevered and it will always do. Anyways, the new conditions might force us to evolve into something better! Nothing like a global catastrophe to spice up the species list! And I think, even though there are people who strongly disagree, that these changes will take a long time. Not centuries or decades but thousands of years; our planet in fortunately slow in its endeavours.

There is nothing we can do, it is inevitable and will be impossible to simulate or predict. Anything could happen, the temperature could stay exactly as it is, it could get massively hotter or it could even get massively cold and anything in between. The natural global warming cycle usually makes temperatures a lot hotter and then something significant happens, like a volcano or meteor impact which would cause it to get colder again. It’s not really a cycle as such because each time we go from hot to cold it is different and for different reasons. but what I think will happen in the coming tens of thousands of years is a large increase in temperature which will completely change the world (but not destroy it or anything, infact it should promote rain forest like areas to appear all over the world) followed by a sudden drop over a few thousand years which will kill of a lot of species. That time scale could even be upped to millions of years, or shortened to hundreds of years because again it’s completely unpredictable.

Ultimately, you can believe in whatever you want, but you have to accept the possibility that any result could happen. While I personally don’t believe in global warming causing massive catastrophe or humans causing it, I still accept it may be true and I think precautions should be put in place. These precautions should be there for more reasons that just global warming too because of the harm they cause in general.
 
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yeah did alot of this stuff on biology. pretty much you guys said it in 20k words....

watch inconveinient (spelled wrong i know) truth, by Al Gore. It really opened my eyes. He says pretty much everyone has said in this thread, that is actually correct. Global warming is a natural process. It's happened countless times in the past, but looking at the charts he had from around 1900-40's or 50's all CO^2 levels increased dramatically, all them other pllutions i didn't pay attention to their names also increased. and like from there untill 2000 the charts just sky rocketed. It showed how fast the glacier were melting, it showed mountain tops in the 70's and now, and most are virtually gone. Lake in africa, think lake victoria, which i learned about before the movie, has basically dried up in 30 years is now a canyon, the deserts are growing in size.

Even simple stuff in local areas is whacked out. I live in high ass elevation now, and all we got was 2 major snows, rest freezing rain, and rain. When I lived alot lower then the mountain i live on now, we had 5-6+ major snows a year, but now they hardly ever have more than an inch of snow. This is in maryland,USA.
 
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Modern science has already proven that we did this to ourselves. If you think that god made us think that we discovered a way to find out we did this to ourselves on purpose, then you're obviously crazy.

really? Modern science has already proven that this "Global Warming" thing is natural and that Humans have had a minor impact on the phenomena.
 
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My dad apperantly dosen't believe in global warming, but instead that C02 has really nothing to do with it. It is natural things that you can tell really. He thinks the tempeture likes to play "games" with us, to make us think we are going crazy. Odd.

I just think that it's the sun minorly growing hotter and hotter (not the ozone being depleted) until the small coldness comes. I'm thinking the hotter it gets, the less time it has until it explodes. Hmm, I wonder what will happen when it explodes and if people are still alive.
 
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yeah the sun getting hotter totally makes sense... WTF
our star won't get any hotter for a few more billion years than it will turn into a red giant, theoretically. For now it continues to burn the same helium which is the save burning temp. Our atmosphere stops the temperature from getting to high anyways, it would take the sun to increase in temperature by ALOT to make a differenceon earth.

Modern science has proven we have had a huge impact on the community, obviously someone isn't reading previous posts or doesn't know what hes talking about.

Like I already said, yes global warming is a natural process, but we have increased the speed of this process dramatically.
 
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yeah the sun getting hotter totally makes sense... WTF
It kind of does make sense in away. The longer a light bulb is on, does it get hotter? Indeed. The longer an oven is on does it get hotter? Yes. How about a toaster? Gets hotter the longer it's on...


Just some random information:

The Sun's energy comes from thermonuclear reactions (converting hydrogen to helium) in the core, where temperatures range from 15 to 25 million degrees. The energy radiates through the middle layer, then bubbles and boils to the surface in a process called convection. Charged particles, called the solar wind, stream out at a million miles an hour.
 

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yeah it's cows also, lol farting bastards

Karouk how does that support your hypothesis? duh all those things get hotter but they reach a max temp, they don't constantly get hotter and hotter or obviously they would melt lmao.
 
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It kind of does make sense in away. The longer a light bulb is on, does it get hotter? Indeed. The longer an oven is on does it get hotter? Yes. How about a toaster? Gets hotter the longer it's on...
Unfortunately, stars don't work this way. As elements combine to form heavier elements in the star, it cools. Eventually it will reach the element iron, which cannot be combined any further in a star. That is why massive, old stars appear red.
 
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I say we deal with pollution. If we do that, then if Al Gore is right, we have already helped stop global warming. I think pollution in general is a larger problem.
 
Global Warming is definatively a myth, a goddamned polictal statement, not proven fact. Sure Carbon Dioxide and pollution have an affect, but are you saying that our cars are killing the planet? Pollution cannot affect temperature, lets take Mt. St. Helens for example, it is the perfect scenario, for when it blew and ashes scattered all over the atomsphere, did it warm up? No, it blocked out sunlight and made it colder. The same with C02: The more the less sunshine we get, while the heat will run out eventually without getting much back.

What good would it do if the US just cut off their C02 emmisions while China is still doubling its emmisions every year? China doesn't negotiate, the Kyoto act was treacherous, and there is no other way to solve this problem than to just sit on our asses and watch the planet cool down!

Sigh, global warming is definatively happening, for 25 years we havent had a single snow day in school, and we just had one last week, getting a high record since the eighties for snowfall. I really think we are going to melt the icecaps.
 
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lol sorry elfsilver you need to get your facts straight. it IS proven, called weather balloons that take readings of gasses in the atmosphere and we've had them up there since early 1900's actually think b4 that but might be wrong about that. It's shown how much the C0^2 levels have risen and other gases. Scientists don;t make the shit up or politics, becuase private industries buy weather balloons also and would see that they lied and sue their asses.

Also check pictures out of like mt kilaminjaro, how much snow has melted, ice glacier geographic maps, see how far they have retreated. Also The iceshelf on antarctic, could break off any moment and after that it'd slow drift north, and begin melting alot quicker, that alone melting would raise world wide water level by an inch+ same with glacier in greenland thats cracking and melting quickly which is close to the same size. plus alot of inland lakes, ponds, rivers are getting dryer and smaller due to the lack of rainfall, and snow melt on top of mountains.

You seriously have to be in a special ed class to not add up all the facts. I mean c'mon I know your not dumb elfsilver lord, your just very ignorant about the subject.
 
Think about it: 1980s, scientist claimed that the earth would go into Global Cooling, did it? Listen, you've got your heads in the clouds, are you gonna let some idiot who has a giant carbon footprint dictate how you live your life, all in fear of some slight climate change turned into politicis?

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/images/content/208488main_global_temp_change.jpg

Look at this chart, it raised .8 degrees over 200 years, meaning about .004 degrees per year.

Look at this diagram, showing natural curves in heat highs and lows, yet no evidence of major flooding due to melted icecaps or glaciers, or being buried in 22 feet of water. Why now?

http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
 
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That means we have put 100,000,000,000 in 5,000,000,000,000,000 (5 Quadrillion) which is 1 ton for every 50,000 tons of atmosphere or 0.002% which is virtually nothing. And that is taking into the consideration that the carbon has just stayed static for the last 157 years; so it hasn't been in any photosynthesis and it hasn't been absorbed into the sea and it hasn't been taken in by sea creatures to make their shells. Even thinking that it has just sat there doing nothing for over a century then we still have only put an extra 0.002% of carbon in the atmosphere, which is really too little to even consider realistically.
Sure, it seems small, but in only seems small.
Here are some statistsics for Earth's atmosphere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_atmosphere said:
Nitrogen: 78.0842%
Oxygen: 20.9463%
We cannot breath nitrogen. The oxygen we breath is only 20% of the atmosphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_atmosphere said:
Carbon dioxide: 0.03811%
Carbon dioxide, the main component of greenhouse gases, without which our planet would be too cold to have liquid water or life, is only 0.038% of the atmosphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_atmosphere said:
Argon: 0.93422%
Water vapor: about 1%
Other: 0.002%
Unfortunately, stars don't work this way. As elements combine to form heavier elements in the star, it cools. Eventually it will reach the element iron, which cannot be combined any further in a star. That is why massive, old stars appear red.
Stars obviously go through a warming period though.
Global Warming is definatively a myth, a goddamned polictal statement, not proven fact. Sure Carbon Dioxide and pollution have an affect, but are you saying that our cars are killing the planet?
No. Life will continue through the effects of global warming, but there will be considerable problems for people near the coast if sea levels rise, no?
Pollution cannot affect temperature, lets take Mt. St. Helens for example, it is the perfect scenario, for when it blew and ashes scattered all over the atomsphere, did it warm up? No, it blocked out sunlight and made it colder. The same with C02: The more the less sunshine we get, while the heat will run out eventually without getting much back.
Volcanic ash is not transparent. Carbon dioxide is.
Also, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, its greenhouse effect allows life to exist.
What good would it do if the US just cut off their C02 emmisions while China is still doubling its emmisions every year? China doesn't negotiate, the Kyoto act was treacherous, and there is no other way to solve this problem than to just sit on our asses and watch the planet cool down!
If someone else is beating you up, why shouldn't I?
 
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Stars obviously go through a warming period though.
Yes, they warm up when they are young, but Sol is middle-aged.

The global temperature has not increased significantly, but think how large the atmosphere is and how much energy must be used to increase it my that little amount.
 
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If someone else is beating you up, why shouldn't I?

... Just curious, would you let someone make a law that limits your everyday schedule and takes up your money to try to solve a worldwide problem when poor countries are producing more emmisions than we are, and will have little effect?

The earth has not flooded before due to melting artic regions, and probably wont unless heat is directly applied. It doesn't matter if the substance in the air is transparent or not, either way it can not trap heat, the hot air rises and will constantly be at or higher than the level of the co2.
 
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those charts are alot dif than i've originally seen, and they couldn't be wrong or else the creator wouldn't have gotten the nobel peace prize... or just nominated.

stop quoting wiki >.< it's not a reliable source of info, anyone can put anything in there. Also yeah volcanoes are actually like second highest cause for c02, heat rays can still go through clouds of ash and c02, but not leave hence greenhouse effect.

actually red giants and supergiants are red becuase of the elements that are being burned give off red light. we tested this in ESS class by burning our own elements.

I don't like doing 20 quotes btw

yeah and eventually temperatures will raise dramatically, but if the glaciers melt they could screw up water ways, or w/e in the waters and there will be more cool current flows that cool the air and will cause and ice age eventually. didn't explain it very well but that's wwhat caused last iceage is global warming got so hot the great lakes used to be one giant lake that was surrounded by a glacier that melted and craked unleashed thousands of tons of cold fresh water into the atlantic.

don't feel like i'm convincing though so probly gonna give up lol. some people just want to believe its a political scam obviously, so freeze yourself and wake up to the future of 170 degrees F in north america!
 
those charts are alot dif than i've originally seen, and they couldn't be wrong or else the creator wouldn't have gotten the nobel peace prize... or just nominated.

stop quoting wiki >.< it's not a reliable source of info, anyone can put anything in there. Also yeah volcanoes are actually like second highest cause for c02, heat rays can still go through clouds of ash and c02, but not leave hence greenhouse effect.

actually red giants and supergiants are red becuase of the elements that are being burned give off red light. we tested this in ESS class by burning our own elements.

I don't like doing 20 quotes btw

yeah and eventually temperatures will raise dramatically, but if the glaciers melt they could screw up water ways, or w/e in the waters and there will be more cool current flows that cool the air and will cause and ice age eventually. didn't explain it very well but that's wwhat caused last iceage is global warming got so hot the great lakes used to be one giant lake that was surrounded by a glacier that melted and craked unleashed thousands of tons of cold fresh water into the atlantic.

don't feel like i'm convincing though so probly gonna give up lol. some people just want to believe its a political scam obviously, so freeze yourself and wake up to the future of 170 degrees F in north america!

Think about it, if it was 170 degrees out, significant solar activity would have to exist, or some idiot trying to put us in his microwave. Is it logical,think, that a gas is making the planet heat up? That a gas that we freeze to cool our drinks will burn the planet? That because we have pollution it will heat the whole earth by 70 degrees? If it did happen, that would take several hundreds, if not thousands of years. Its not like the temperature would spike magically from the average now to 170 degrees, nor in a short time, given that the cause is greenhouse gases. Sure the earth is warming up, sure we care about the enviroment, but I dont want to follow a polictical figurehead trying to tell me how I should live my life and if I dont follow what he says I apparently hate nature and want us all to do. Changing CO2 emissions will not have a major effect on the issue unless the ozone layer is reinforced and solar activity is cut down harshly. Check this out.

The problem is non existent! There is surely nothing we can do that will signficantly change the outcome of this issue, even if we all got rid of cars and went to work on bicycles, we would still have ups and downs in high and low temperatures without the use of green house gas. Since ancient times, the climate has gone in a wave pattern, going from high to low temperatures, between 20-60 degrees Centigrade, yet was there no emmisions to magically heat up the planet, unless you are stating that dinosaurs had cars.
 
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... Just curious, would you let someone make a law that limits your everyday schedule and takes up your money to try to solve a worldwide problem when poor countries are producing more emmisions than we are, and will have little effect?
No. A law is pointless. I would do it anyway.
The earth has not flooded before due to melting artic regions, and probably wont unless heat is directly applied.
Oh?
It doesn't matter if the substance in the air is transparent or not, either way it can not trap heat, the hot air rises and will constantly be at or higher than the level of the co2.
Suppose this hot air rises to the top of the atmosphere. What then? Does it lose heat magically? With nothing to touch, it can't get rid of its heat. Aside from that, cold helium rises. Because it doesn't have the same weight as the other parts of the air.
That a gas that we freeze to cool our drinks will burn the planet?
Are you completely ignorant, or are you just pretending?
The problem is non existent! There is surely nothing we can do that will signficantly change the outcome of this issue, even if we all got rid of cars and went to work on bicycles, we would still have ups and downs in high and low temperatures without the use of green house gas. Since ancient times, the climate has gone in a wave pattern, going from high to low temperatures, between 20-60 degrees Centigrade, yet was there no emmisions to magically heat up the planet, unless you are stating that dinosaurs had cars.
Carbon dioxide is definitely not only released by burning oil.

I suppose you also don't think plants grow better in a greenhouse?
 
No. A law is pointless. I would do it anyway.

Oh?

Suppose this hot air rises to the top of the atmosphere. What then? Does it lose heat magically? With nothing to touch, it can't get rid of its heat. Aside from that, cold helium rises. Because it doesn't have the same weight as the other parts of the air.

I suppose you also don't think plants grow better in a greenhouse?

If hot air collects 20 or more miles above us, it will melt the largest glacier caps on earth?

Hey, look at Mars, whose icecaps are also melting, did our probes do that too?
 
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