Freewebs, yes or no.

[Elfsilver Lord]

Hey, Hive.

While a student in Junior High, people are always coming up with Freewebs and calling it their website.

Personally, I don't like freewebs, and here is why.

People spend time in their site. I put 2-4 hours a day to work on my WC site. I pay for my hosting, I toil because I need more users and more resources, and it seems that a lot of my time is a waste compared to freewebs.

Freewebs in my opinion is like a way to get rich fast, while people who own ACTUAL sites spend hours on getting their layouts done, freewebs can do it in three minutes with their handy templates, then they brag about it saying that their freewebs is better than your actual site, or go telling their friends that they made a website. So, everyone now is going around saying, "Hey, have you been to Bob's website?" and Bob gets popular that way.

So, do you like freewebs?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

yeh, whats wrong with get rich fast? if you cant beat them...join them?

 

[Shadow_Fox]

Freewebs looks like crap, the templates suck.

Very unprofessional.

 

[skrab]

i use freewebs but not for site... i'm using his 40MB web space
as Shadow_Fox said they are "Very unprofessional" they support only html and not PHP...

 

[DesKaladA]

Well not to be blunt
I can make a webiste in 20 minits using joomla

 

[brad.dude03]

That's not making a website, it's using a premade CMS and then customizing it to fit your needs. Scratch coding is the best, Freewebs is the fastest, and PHP CMS is the best looking with the least effort.

Freewebs is a definite no. Anyone who's serious will get REAL hosting.

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

Well not to be blunt
I can make a webiste in 20 minits using joomla

The whole site? Scripts, databases, features? So If I asked you to remake the whole Hive site you could do it in 20 minutes?

 

[Sansui]

Umm freewebs do not always suck.
As in some cases they do not use the standard templates but actually take the time to make their own. I used freewebspace such as freewebs and awardspace for small projects when i want to throw something temp up and since I dont run my own server anymore.

Simply saying a website sucks because they dont pay for hosting means nothing.
A person who pays for hosting could easily use some shit template they downloaded and completed no work and have 0 knowledge of making a webpage.
And a person can use afree service and manage a very nice website.


oh and
Deskalada has no knowledge of making websites past stealing scripts and templates and claiming them as his.

 

[DesKaladA]

The whole site? Scripts, databases, features? So If I asked you to remake the whole Hive site you could do it in 20 minutes?

Ok well not the whole hive site
But a functioning site i cold make in 20 minuts

 

[brad.dude03]

Yes, you can install Joomla onto any webserver in under twenty minutes and then you have a site. Bam. Easy as that. It will have all of the defaults and no real content, but it will be usable.

 

[DesKaladA]

ya but i dont use joomla
I use someting more complex

 

[brad.dude03]

It still doesn't matter because you aren't hand-coding anything, you're using a prebuilt system for your own needs. For example, this forum. Ralle didn't have to hand code the forums, he just installed vBulletin, and then set it up for our purposes. That was that.

 

[DesKaladA]

Ok you can make that argument
Also whats kanda gay about freewebs is the way they set up adds and fuck up cuttum html

 

[Auraiken]

Wow, you guys are going to start a fire with all this flaming. xD

Freewebs isn't a get-rich-quick thing where people actually make money off of it. Most of the time some idiot who is already popular will make a website on it with nothing but a shitty 'about me' page that consists of all the persons friends pictures. Yes, it will be popular because the idiot who made it is popular.

I think freewebs is actually a P.O.S excuse for the latest geocities trend of webhosts. They're already behind every other free webhost like awardspace that actually supports a few languages to write a backend in.

I personally didn't fall into those categories during high school and actually ran into the opposite as the above. Was having issues with accessing files from home and didn't feel like bringing a cd or floppy in. So I decided to run a webserver at home on a shitty computer with centOS ( linux distro ) so that I could just up and dl a file straight from home. Word got around and I ended up setting up a CMS for friends and whoever visited as well as 40GB worth of flash games.

I'm getting off topic though. Freewebs is really just a sad excuse as a website host. It, like many others in this category, add in ad code, templates are all similar and shitty, have no support for server side scripting.

Just find a cheap web host like nearlyfreespeech.net or go the free route with awardspace. Or go take a crap computer, throw ubuntu or w/e flavour linux distro you want, run apache with w/e server side script you want, and start learning how to run your own shit.

As a side note, yes, Ralle did basically just take the vbulletin and make a skin for it. But, He also had to write his own script for the maps, icons, and anything in the resource section. They are in no way attached to vbulletin. So it isn't like he didn't put his own time into making the website. The resource backend would've had to be hand made from scratch.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

You're right, 100%.

As for the flaming, I don't really think there are too many people on the hive who like freewebs, so I don't see that much of an issue with flaming.

 

[DesKaladA]

Ya just use byethost its free and has sql php etc
if you want a website

 

[brad.dude03]

Ralle also hand-coded the chat and the front page. No one doubts his abilities.

 

[Eleandor]

You do realise that you CAN make a site from scratch on freewebs, do you?
So I would actually say that for the average website, freewebs is perfect, as it's FREE. And you can do everything on it: make a site from scratch or use templates.

 

[Elfsilver Lord]

But who makes scratch sites on freewebs? No one except for people determined to go far away from the templates, which rarely anyone does.

 

[Sansui]

ummm most non retarded people do actually. the people that use templates are the same people who use templates with any other service.

 

[ZypherXII]

Ralle also hand-coded the chat and the front page. No one doubts his abilities.

Ralle hand-coded everything not included in vBulletin.. Which also includes vbulletin mods and off course the resource section it self.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Ralle also hand-coded the chat and the front page. No one doubts his abilities.

These days the frontpage is powered by vBadvanced, or so it says atleast. But yes it has some changes to it.

 

[Shados]

That's not making a website, it's using a premade CMS and then customizing it to fit your needs. Scratch coding is the best, Freewebs is the fastest, and PHP CMS is the best looking with the least effort.

Freewebs is a definite no. Anyone who's serious will get REAL hosting.

Or mooch off their friends, *cough cough*.

Freewebs is fail for reasons elaborated in detail in previous posts. On top of this, don't tell me you can just make something from scratch on it, because it has a severly limited feature package, even among free web hosts.