Fourth Age Middle Earth - War of Men

[jarri]

then maybe the model will be good for dunleding weapons..?

 

[Artins the Great]

Ima neva heard of Dunlendings using such a strange weapon. Anyway, people won't even notice the sword model attached because you play from bird's eye's view.

 

[VeljkoM]

So what if they see it.It is good looking weapon.

What is Ima neva?

 

[Artins the Great]

*I'm a never heard of Dunlendings using such a strange weapon.

 

[Arvedui]

So what if they see it.It is good looking weapon

Well if they don't see it, it's not worth having in the map. It takes up extra space in the map, that if they're not going to see, is just wasted.

It may just be a great looking weapon, but it's useless if they can't see it.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I say they should see it.
Artins the Great shouldn't you say "I have never seen it"?

 

[Arvedui]

Yes he should have said "I've never seen..."

 

[Artins the Great]

Lets get some few things done here.... Right now Dr. itsekk is doing the terrain, I've requested him Helms Deep because I always can't get to get the damn thing done. If anyone is up for it, I will send you the map.

We need to talk about the events, Should I have them at all in my map? What kind of events do you guys want?

Balancing of Morgoth needs to be considered, I'm planning to have a event in the middle of the game that allows Nurn builders to allow the building of the Temple to Morgoth. How strong should he be? What Kind of spells?

 

[VeljkoM]

Will other units have attached weapons also.If so I can try to find some weapons.

EDIT:
-Events sound nice.
-I am not terrainer.
-Maybe good guys should summon Manve.Balance of the force.
-Morgoth should have some kind of corrupting abilities.

 

[Artins the Great]

I was never fan of attachments, Morogoth will have his hammer though.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well sometimes you must do something you don't like.Attachments are smaller of unit models.But worry about that when you finish terrain first.

 

[Arvedui]

We need to talk about the events, Should I have them at all in my map? What kind of events do you guys want?

Events should be battles. And you should have a dialog at the beginning of the map whether or not they want to have the battles on or off.

Balancing of Morgoth needs to be considered, I'm planning to have a event in the middle of the game that allows Nurn builders to allow the building of the Temple to Morgoth. How strong should he be? What Kind of spells?

Morgoth should be a little on the unbalanced side, but not mega unbalanced.

I had stun and cleaving spells for my Morgoth. It seems fitting.

 

[VeljkoM]

He should have buffed Charm ability so he could take control of units with his will.

 

[Ghost765]

or something like charm except it kills instead of charming.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well Morgoth powers are only able to corrupt powers of other gods because he lost other powers during of creation of world.So yes he should kill units with abilities.

 

[jarri]

artins do u still want an orc archer because i made one using grunt body, archer anims and a really cool lowfilsize bow. if u want i can pm?

 

[VeljkoM]

Orcs need Archers.Anyway jarri can you give it to me to?

 

[jarri]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=lpvg09

 

[Dr. itsekk]

I've made a quick terrian for Helms Deep. It really sucks, but it's a beginning. Right now I don't know how to do it. I hope you can give me any specific ideas of how to make it. Then again i'm not sure if the general idea is ok, or how much space i should use. Can any of you guys do it better or something?

Btw, you should use that last texture space.

 

[Arvedui]

That looks really good. Just get rid of the ground paths for the turrets, they look terrible.


+rep

 

[Artins the Great]

looks better than what ever I would have came up with, seriously, I'm lucky I found you. +rep

oh, and I have one more texture space? Didn't know, You can choose one if you need too... No need to ask.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Seriously, how it looks, I got scared for a bit. It looks weird.

 

[jarri]

its good, +rep from me as well.

 

[VeljkoM]

Where is the entrance to the dwaven caves?
Anyway best Helms Deep ever.

 

[Arvedui]

I'm guessing the entrance to the caves of Aglarond is the circle of power in between the two statues.

 

[Artins the Great]

Kinda obvious

 

[VeljkoM]

He should put cave there.Dwarves can't go through rocks.

 

[Dr. itsekk]

Ye the cave is at the cirlce, and i'll try to put a real cave there. Anyway i'm gonna do it better, but i don't know when i'll get it done. Lots of family around. Btw thanks for the rep

 

[Artins the Great]

Merry Christmas

 

[Arvedui]

Merry Christmas Artins, Veljko, Ghost, and everyone else

Erm.. screw it if that's off-topic of the thread, it's Christmas Eve!

 

[Artins the Great]

It's definitely worth -rep ain't it?

 

[TheDivineBoss]

Nah, just after briefly off-topic'ing. Besides, you are off-topic too now, hehe. Oh wait, me too.

On-Topic: Merry Christmas and I hope your map will go on just fine.

 

[VeljkoM]

Do they celebrate Christmas in Middle-earth?
Yes I know the answer, do you?
And this is on topic because of....

 

[Artins the Great]

Yeah, I think, Tolkien was Christian

 

[jarri]

yeah he was but he seems to be a bit on the pagan side..

 

[Arvedui]

No he wasn't on the pagan side.

LotR is riddled with Christian undertones. He even said so himself. He was good friends with C.S. Lewis who also wrote very religious stories.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well creation of the world in LotR is different.
All gods were creating music and that music was world or something.
Arvedui knows more about that.

 

[jarri]

yeah but.. how can there be multiple dieties in lotr if he was christian..?

 

[Arvedui]

Well, that's simple. There aren't multiple deities.

There is one God; Eru Iluvatar. He created the Valar, you could see them as arch-angels, sent to Middle-Earth to look after the world, and shape it, but in the end everything goes according to Iluvatar's will.

And then there are the Maiar, which you could see as regular angels that have come to Middle-Earth, with the Valar, to help Iluvatar's children (elves and men).

People often confuse the Valar with Gods because they're practically omnipotent, BUT they're not gods. There is only 1 God; Eru Iluvatar.

 

[VeljkoM]

And Malkor-Mordret is Satan.Sauron and Balrogs are fallen angels.

 

[Artins the Great]

Tolkien would have been proud of us.

 

[jarri]

Lol. yeah, very informative, anyway updates on map artins?

 

[Artins the Great]

Nothin, If you haven't noticed, Dr. itsekk has our map. Right now I'm enjoying my winterbreak thinking of side projects.

 

[jarri]

i hate that hobby of yours, almean if u dont have a project right now, doesnt mean u should start a new one, u already have 2 or 3 other maps going. complete them first

 

[VeljkoM]

How long are you making this map?And what about that Orc vs Human map.

 

[Artins the Great]

Dunno, It's just my hobby. Making maps, sharing my ideas with people. But this map is my first priority.

 

[jarri]

good to hear, tolkien would be proud ;D

 

[VeljkoM]

Anyway in features of this map you said that there will be events.
Whats the plan.Having some major attacks or searching for lost things from old ages?
Or some kind of third creep faction that will sometimes bother players like rebelions, bandits, leftovers of great armies like wild Uruk-Hai?

 

[Artins the Great]

Events, we hadn't gotten far on yet. I see that Conflict for Sereg D'or map isn't protected, so I'm trying to learn the triggers they used for events. Theres a event list but that's unbalanced crab i was babbling about. We will get to that later.

 

[VeljkoM]

-So terrain is being fixed by Dr. itsekk.
-forces are set
-are units decided?
-events postponed for now
-Triggers need to be started
-Spells need to be made
-will there be a opening cinematic maybe?
anything else?