Fourth Age Middle Earth - War of Men

[Artins the Great]

Perfect need-to-do list.

 

[Ghost765]

hmm just an idea. why dont you make it so units periodically spawn from your bases, and begin attacking enemy bases, just to keep things intresting.

 

[Artins the Great]

Ah?

Do you mean spawn small amount of units in enemy base? I'm not sure wat you are talking about.

 

[Arvedui]

He means have them spawn in your base and then attack-move to the enemy base.

I don't like that idea because it would be way too much movement and would lag the game to hell.

AoS-type maps do it, but they usually only have 6 spawns, this is going to have quite a few more. With more units spawning.

 

[VeljkoM]

Maybe it would have worked if there was just two bases.But here we have at least 2 bases for player so you would need spawn controller.
And you wouldn't be able to split forces and attack 2 places at ones.
But still it is up to Artinis.

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

Sounds fun.

 

[VeljkoM]

I just had to show this.
CaveGate - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

 

[Arvedui]

Yeah olofmoleman is awesome. I love every single thing he's done.

 

[Artins the Great]

Agreed

 

[jarri]

so if u want artins, maybe i could get u some spells for morgoth..? i just need description and if i CAN, ill get them.

 

[Artins the Great]

DarkIron Dwarf, I will make sure it will be...

And Jarri, thanks for support, We arn't even close to hero spell making right now. You can take charge on that. I'm getting lots of Hero balance from DOTA site. (I know DOTA)

 

[jarri]

hero balance?

 

[Artins the Great]

Stats, starting stats blah blah blah so they don't over power another hero. Morgoth, Blue Wizards will be exception to the rule.

 

[VeljkoM]

Maybe we each need to do some tasks for this map.
For now we can only give ideas but latter?

 

[jarri]

hes right, and what exactly are the blue wizards? and what faction will they be in?

 

[Artins the Great]

Rhun. They were with Easterlings the whole time.

Blue Wizards were two of the Istrai. Like Gnadalf and Saruman. They went East to help Easerterlings become good but they failed and probably ended up joining them and starting a dark cult.

 

[Arvedui]

Alatar and Pallando, known as the Blue Wizards. 5 Wizards (Maiar) were sent to Middle-Earth to combat Sauron and only 1 returned.

 

[Artins the Great]

I was going to say that.

 

[Arvedui]

sorry lol

 

[jarri]

^^ thanks, and arvedui will they have custom models..?

 

[Arvedui]

That's up to Artins.

 

[VeljkoM]

But good side needs strong heroes too.What will they do against Morgoth?
Summon Manve maybe or some other valar.
(please correct me about names)

 

[Artins the Great]

Good guys are pretty much screwed if bad guys summon Morgoth.

 

[VeljkoM]

So point is not to allow his coming in the first place.

 

[Artins the Great]

Yes Sir, the good guys will have to keep the bad guys on their toes. To prevent bad guys from saving up big money by making them repair buildings or keep attacking them so they spend their money buying horses (for Calvary), items (for Hero), Ships (Strong Navy), or Build Watch Towers (for Defense).

 

[jarri]

yeah but the game shouldnt be totally hopeless once morgoth is released >.<

 

[Artins the Great]

Good guys can mass Hope for the best.

Happy New Year Guys.

 

[jarri]

so.. what has itsekks done on the map lately?

 

[Artins the Great]

Dunno........

Also I got an Idea for the Morgoth thing. See when the Morgoth is released, the news spreads and after 5 minute Morogth is released, the reinforcement from Arnor is released upon Northern Dunland, 10 knights, 4 rangers, 2 Hero (Lord of Arnor, Radagast, theBrown Wizard) to Gondor player.

 

[VeljkoM]

Can good guys survive 5 minutes?

 

[Artins the Great]

Morgoth ain't like 999 demage with 99999 Healthpoint, no, he will be worth like 7 normal Heros.

 

[VeljkoM]

And 7 heroes are nothing to worry about.Still I am over reacting.
I it is just that Morgoth is so powerful in book.You can say his powers have been drained when he was banished.

 

[Artins the Great]

Yup, you read my mind.

 

[VeljkoM]

Or I read the first forum.
When we are talking about heroes do we know what heroes will each faction get?
Many of them died during the 3rd age.

 

[Artins the Great]

Only Gimli (Lord of Aglarond) and Legolas (Lord of Ithilien) is the remaining ring heros. Everyone Else is New guys, made up by me and many other people who helped me making them. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/f341/make-your-own-hero-middle-earth-95127/

 

[VeljkoM]

Not all are dead.What about Gloin father of Gimli, King Dain of Ironhills ,Prince Brand of Dale?I will remember others latter.

 

[Artins the Great]

These guys up north are fighting Easterlings, which won't be featured in this map. Maybe they will be featured in events, like leading the refugees into Moria or something.

 

[VeljkoM]

Oh yea.Can Tom Bombadil be in some event.He is probably the most powerful person in Middle-Earth.He was able to carry one ring without any consequences.

Anyway looks like heroes are covered but if you need more I can help.

 

[Artins the Great]

Aye Aye

 

[jarri]

lol i remember the old 'make your own hero in M.E.' thread, so are u having MY suggestion in the map too? i suggested Udan the black-an Uruk in the service of the people of Nurn

 

[Artins the Great]

Ya, I'm planning to use it, the Thrall Model. I remember.

 

[jarri]

yeah i think the thrall model =) the black wolf will look good

 

[Artins the Great]

I'm planning to use everything that I've accepted, almean I promised them. The credits won't be forgottened.

 

[jarri]

lol even if they are, its not important- you already thanked us all with rep XD, and artins, you wont be having legolas and gimli in the map right? because they sail to west after aragorn fdies remember?

 

[VeljkoM]

They didn't go right away.Well at least that is our excuse.

 

[jarri]

lol lame excuse because at the end of teh book, it is clearly said that after aragorn dies, legolas follows his heart's desire and sails west by anduin, taking gimli with him (thats how I remember it/)

 

[VeljkoM]

That is how the book goes.In first thread Arvedui gave this idea to justify Artinis.

 

[Artins the Great]

Thought it would be fun to add some familiar hero to the unfamiliar game.

 

[Arvedui]

Not all are dead.What about Gloin father of Gimli, King Dain of Ironhills ,Prince Brand of Dale?I will remember others latter.

Gloin was old by the time of The War of the Ring, he would have died.

Dain died defending Erebor. Brand died defending Erebor, and even if he hadn't he was only a man and would have died from natural causes anyway.

lol lame excuse because at the end of teh book, it is clearly said that after aragorn dies, legolas follows his heart's desire and sails west by anduin, taking gimli with him (thats how I remember it/)

It never gives a specific date for when Gimli and Legolas leave. It just says that they do.

Gimli would have to be rather old though.

 

[VeljkoM]

Dwarves live long.But I didn't know that Dain and Brand died defending Erebor.(that would explain some things in BFME2)
Still Artinis has a point.