Fourth Age Middle Earth - War of Men

[VeljkoM]

No music.It is just to big.That is why I never uploaded my map.
Arvedui is right.

 

[Artins the Great]

No music? Anyway, here is Rhu^n http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/artins+the+great/albums/%3Dscreenshots%3D/7000-rhun/

Theres Brodda, the Easterling Overlord, surrounded by several Axemans, Orcs, Archers, and Variags.

 

[VeljkoM]

Are those Centaurs?And the big guy is Garithos.
Any way it looks somehow empty.

 

[Artins the Great]

Centaurs = Variag
Garithos = Big overlord.

Wat do you suggest me doing? Like to put more trees?

 

[VeljkoM]

Maybe more trees, but certainly more doodads.
But what is Varigad?
Let me guess:Ruhn+beer+femail warg=Varigad

 

[Arvedui]

Variag = Variags - Lord of the Rings - Tolkien Wiki

 

[VeljkoM]

Doesn't that mean that they are riders of horses.They are easterlings, men.
And I am sorry for that joke.

 

[VeljkoM]

Why don't you ask him?
He will probably finish it one day.How hard is to put animations (don't answer).

 

[Mechanical Man]

He's doing them from scratch thats why. And I never animated a quadrupedal creature :S

 

[Ghost765]

ive heard its hard. but i think any animating is hard so w/e. are u gonna use those easterlings i sent u artin?

 

[Artins the Great]

I dunno the path, and who to credit.

 

[Ghost765]

its textures\easterling. if u dont know who, just say u dont.

 

[Artins the Great]

Sure I will use the models, Rhu^n is one of the most powerful race in the game, so it would be cool to see that they got their own little models.

 

[jarri]

yea, and arvedui is right, no music please. takes more space compared to models.

 

[VeljkoM]

Isn't Harad more important.They have Mumakils.

 

[Artins the Great]

Mumakils doesn't make you the top dog in Middle Earth. Harad sure is numerous, but their armor is thin and they have Gondor right under their nose. Gondor soldiers are heavily armored and they have good archers, which makes Harad really hard to win a battle against the Gondor even if their troops double enemies numbers.

 

[Ghost765]

plus oliphants are afraid of fire, as is almost everything thats wild. hmm...you should do that. Make an ability that deals extra damage to creatures like mumakil/wargs.

 

[VeljkoM]

That is cool idea, just like in BFME.But how to do that?

 

[Artins the Great]

..... Yea how?

 

[VeljkoM]

Maybe triggers.
-Unit cast spell
-Spell=fire arrows
-do % damage to mumakil
?Can this be done?
I am not much trigger of man.

 

[Ghost765]

well its quite simple i think.
Make an autocast ability called Fire Arrows.
Lets classify the beasts as....ehh.. i dunno...Ancients.
Make sure to change the Name Ancients to Creature or something like that in the Game Interface
Make the ability target only Ancients, and it deals X extra damage.
Heres something optional:
Add a buff to the spell that is like "The Creature is on fire"
Make a trigger that checks if the units life is under like 200 and has the Creature is on Fire buff and give it to hostile, since it would go insane. After like a couple seconds you could kill it off.

 

[Arvedui]

Anyway, Artins, what are you actually working on right now?

Units? Heroes? Terrain? Triggers?

Is there anything specific that I can help with

 

[Artins the Great]

Terrain and units. The fun stuff first to get people interested, and triggers later. I could use help on terrain and triggers, since I think I ain't good at these. It would be great if you can help out.

 

[Ghost765]

i can terrain...and trigger abit...
but ill be working too hard on this map. im already part of a team.

 

[Arvedui]

Hmm well terrain is, sadly, not my forte. I can help a little on triggers. I don't know JASS though.

If you want, PM me what you need and I'll see if I can help. I'll make a demo map with the triggers in it and just send it to you.

It's a lot easier that way.

 

[Artins the Great]

we ain't gonna need some fancy triggers, just spawns and upgrade of them which I experiment with a little. Other than that, I can't find much other use for the triggers.

 

[Ghost765]

triggers make the game fun.

 

[Arvedui]

we ain't gonna need some fancy triggers, just spawns and upgrade of them which I experiment with a little. Other than that, I can't find much other use for the triggers.

Well like I said, if there's anything specific that you want me to do let me know.

You can even copy the triggers for spawns from my map. Though it is a little complicated and probably isn't the most efficient.

 

[Artins the Great]

Sure, but arn't you working on your own project these days? The Banished?

 

[Arvedui]

Well during the school year I wasn't really. School pretty much took over. But I'm going to try to get started again now.

But 1 or 2 triggers really aren't all that hard to do.

 

[Artins the Great]

I added more doodads and the trees. http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/artins+the+great/albums/%3Dscreenshots%3D/7031-rhun/

 

[Ghost765]

get rid of the ground art.

 

[Artins the Great]

People just never change.

 

[Ghost765]

true dat. it just looks really bad. especially on sand. and especially when the building is like not porportional to the ground art.

 

[Artins the Great]

This time I agree with ya, I will give the Easterlings their own watchtower.

 

[VeljkoM]

You should change ground texture for buildings.Place dirt instead of stone plates.

 

[Ghost765]

*facepalm. read my post.

 

[VeljkoM]

Sorry, didn't understand you then.

 

[Arvedui]

He meant that the ground texture doesn't look right on ground that has been raised (or lowered).

 

[VeljkoM]

I understand him now, I didn't understand him the first time.

 

[Dr. itsekk]

terrain

Hey Artnis your terrian is good. I've done some smaller changes around on the random terrain. I noticed that the stone road was kind of ugly, and that you have 1 texutre space remaining. Try to use for a road or something like that.

Anyway, I don't know if you will agree with my terraining. Here is Dunharrow:

I'm not sure if I liked the model you used, but i used it anyway. What do you guys think? Am i on the right track or not?

The ground texture looks ok some places, but maybe you should remove it completely. If you want it i'll keep it. Next i'll do some changes in Dol Amroth and keep thinking of helms deep.

 

[Dr. itsekk]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/dr.+itsekk/albums/faom+terrain/7048-dunharrow/

 

[jarri]

uhh artins wouldnt this be a good model attachment weapon for harad warriors?

Katar - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

 

[VeljkoM]

It works for them.

 

[Handycombinder]

Maybe for some Dunlendings

 

[VeljkoM]

It would be great if somebody creates Haradrim Spear and shield.

 

[Ghost765]

um...why dont use just use the bandit shield and brigand spear?

 

[VeljkoM]

Mistake.I mean Rhun spears and shields.See picture.

Rhun warriors

But that is just wish.It isn't necessary.

 

[Artins the Great]

Haradrims arms them selves with scimitar and spiked shield. Oh and the Dunharrow looks nice, but I think you should raise the brown things higher, so they look like walls. Otherwise great, +rep

 

[VeljkoM]

That is not mine art.It is from the game.But actually they removed shields from all spearmen like tower guard, uruks ...Stupid decision,
Any way haradrims look like this

Haradrim