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Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim ! {lulz?^^}

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I found Oblivion better due to asthetics. They got the cohesian of ideas perfect. In Skyrim its just white and grey crap every where. And bolders are pi** poor
I realize "better" is subjective, but come on... take a look at the above post. You can prefer the art direction they took, but to say that the graphics are better is silly.
 
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My opinion?

I wanted it really badly when it was first announced, but the same thing happened to Elder Scrolls as it did to Call of Duty. A massive flow of fans bombarded the franchise and just ruined everything for me. The constant arrow-in-the-knee jokes, the constant pestering of people telling me how f*cking amazing it is in every way possible, and when I finally get around to watching it and barely playing it, I feel like I'm just playing a modded Oblivion with a bigger region and better graphics.

And with the Call of Duty comparison I made, it happened there too, I was a massive fan of Call of Duty up untill the ending days of 4 and World At War. When MW2 came out, a massive fanbase prodded onto the game and destroyed it, MW2 was seriously one of the worst games I've ever played, Black Ops being pretty bad in MP but decent in Story (Treyarchs been good at story), and MW3 I won't even go into how bad it is.

And ever since that realization I've stayed away from games that attract massive hypes like that.
 
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I realize "better" is subjective, but come on... take a look at the above post. You can prefer the art direction they took, but to say that the graphics are better is silly.


by graphics i refer to texture quallity, animation quallity, and realism. I found oblivion not only had better animation quallity with alot of the animals but also with the textures as they were more medieval.

Also Im trying to compare relative quallity of graphics- as ofc oblivion was the prelease allthough i don't see much has differed.

In Skyrim i felt they wanted to have 999999999quests all equally as bad. The scenery i find quite bland. There are some nice views but apart from that its juts pretty pointless. Also the dungeons are always mahussive which is quite dull.

Due to having so much quests etc i felt they decided to reduce there work on everything else. Such as the animation is poor.
The bugs in it are so bad there funny.

And the fact there was a typo in the speach of one of the shopkeepers in the southern cities, i find atrocious for a game which is sold at the price it is.

Seriously a typo -.- from a proffesional company.


I think its taken the same step as Supcom did when it became Supcom2. Basically dumbing it down and making it more intensive in the thing "Kiddies call fun" which requires 0 skill or economical bases and pretty much makes a whole section of the game useless.

Now in supcom2 Economy doesnt exist.

While in Oblivion stats dont exist. Oh yeh 1 level = 5stamina or 5 hp o_O? How is that usefull.
 

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And the fact there was a typo in the speach of one of the shopkeepers in the southern cities, i find atrocious for a game which is sold at the price it is.

Seriously a typo -.- from a proffesional company.

Ah come on, are you freaking serious?

More and more I think you're just going to the opposite way for the sake of causing disagreement, and by the look of your posts, you're also running low of arguments.
 
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by graphics i refer to texture quallity, animation quallity, and realism. I found oblivion not only had better animation quallity with alot of the animals but also with the textures as they were more medieval.

I don't really see why you guys want the game art to be like in our world (realistic), when the game is based on a fantasy world which is only dependent on how Bethesda wants it to be... If good graphics for you means to be like in the real world, then I suppose a lot of games would not pass as good to your eyes...
 
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I think its taken the same step as Supcom did when it became Supcom2. Basically dumbing it down and making it more intensive in the thing "Kiddies call fun" which requires 0 skill or economical bases and pretty much makes a whole section of the game useless.

Now in supcom2 Economy doesnt exist.

While in Oblivion stats dont exist. Oh yeh 1 level = 5stamina or 5 hp o_O? How is that usefull.

Now that others have already commented, let me take the last part:

If you apparently hate it for some odd reason. Go play another game. Also there is a reason for why stats is like that in Skyrim, you obviously doesn't understand it.. But hey - You're going to play another game anyway so why care :wink:
 
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by graphics i refer to texture quallity, animation quallity, and realism. I found oblivion not only had better animation quallity with alot of the animals but also with the textures as they were more medieval.

Also Im trying to compare relative quallity of graphics- as ofc oblivion was the prelease allthough i don't see much has differed.

In Skyrim i felt they wanted to have 999999999quests all equally as bad. The scenery i find quite bland. There are some nice views but apart from that its juts pretty pointless. Also the dungeons are always mahussive which is quite dull.

Due to having so much quests etc i felt they decided to reduce there work on everything else. Such as the animation is poor.
The bugs in it are so bad there funny.

While in Oblivion stats dont exist. Oh yeh 1 level = 5stamina or 5 hp o_O? How is that usefull.

Ah, an another noob who probably doesn't even know anything of elder scrolls lore and tries to assault amazing nordic architecture and aura of skyrim! :p
What is this thing so over-exaggrated about animations already? The game is just full of amazing animations, from NPC gestures in dialog mode, to spell casting, to melee fights. Rating a game low just because you didn't like the animations of wild animals is insane.

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Whatever, on-topic;
Which is your favorite book? Mine is Hallgerd's Tale, it's so epic that it's even more epic than lusty argonian maid xD See it here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Hallgerd%27s_Tale

And are the soul powers of grand souls and black souls the same? I mean, does it make a difference if you enchant an item with a filled black soul gem or a filled grand soul gem?
 
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As I can see many here knows ES 5 so anyone here know how to get the house on windhelm??? I'm stuck there seriously, I can't trigger the murder event there. I did everything that i can do, my first character had joined the imperials and killed ulfric and there was a knew Jarl but then i can't buy the house, so i create another and joined the stormcloaks and drive the imperials away but still nothing happen on the event. Is there anyone here that already bought the house? If there is one please tell me. I'm dying for that house!!!!! If there is already a post out here(because i didn't read them all please tell me.
 
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@Luffy I think it matters, because cost of item isn't same, if you use bigger soul gem, it gives more power(charge) to items, but I learned some perk, so i think it's perk.
So if you take small, you'll have to refill really fast, and if you take bigger, it will take lots of time to refill, but that's all based on power you're going to enchant, just check it when you're adding, it's showing you how many attacks you can do before it loses power.

Which is your favorite book?
I don't read books in game xD can't get used to it.
 
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@Luffy I think it matters, because cost of item isn't same, if you use bigger soul gem, it gives more power(charge) to items, but I learned some perk, so i think it's perk.
So if you take small, you'll have to refill really fast, and if you take bigger, it will take lots of time to refill, but that's all based on power you're going to enchant, just check it when you're adding, it's showing you how many attacks you can do before it loses power.

Which is your favorite book?
I don't read books in game xD can't get used to it.

well, I prefer armor enchantments rather than weapon enchantments, weapon enchantments shouldn't be relied on really. You create a magic item spending a soul, and you use a soul again to recharge it later, which sounds illogical to me, since you could enchant one powerful armor and benefit from it's bonuses forever. And I really need to know if there's a difference between filled grand soul gems and filled black soul gems :p

Which is your favorite book?
I don't read books in game xD can't get used to it.

Uh-oh that's a bummer.
 
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well, I prefer armor enchantments rather than weapon enchantments, weapon enchantments shouldn't be relied on really. You create a magic item spending a soul, and you use a soul again to recharge it later, which sounds illogical to me, since you could enchant one powerful armor and benefit from it's bonuses forever. And I really need to know if there's a difference between filled grand soul gems and filled black soul gems :p



Uh-oh that's a bummer.

Yeah it's true about armors.
But you can make godlike weapons with enchanting.

And it is kinda bummer about books, but i have no time to read them :D
There are strange dungeons and caves that need to be explored :p
 
As I can see many here knows ES 5 so anyone here know how to get the house on windhelm??? I'm stuck there seriously, I can't trigger the murder event there. I did everything that i can do, my first character had joined the imperials and killed ulfric and there was a knew Jarl but then i can't buy the house, so i create another and joined the stormcloaks and drive the imperials away but still nothing happen on the event. Is there anyone here that already bought the house? If there is one please tell me. I'm dying for that house!!!!! If there is already a post out here(because i didn't read them all please tell me.

I think I read somewhere on a wiki that you have to enter windhelm from a bunch of different holds, whatever that means
 
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I don't really see why you guys want the game art to be like in our world (realistic), when the game is based on a fantasy world which is only dependent on how Bethesda wants it to be... If good graphics for you means to be like in the real world, then I suppose a lot of games would not pass as good to your eyes...


Theres a difference between wanting a game to be realistic and a wolf that has a 2 frame animation. I like alot of games but an RPG should be alot better quallity, graphics due to it being first person and doesn't have to handle as much visual data, go look at assasins creed 2 or brotherhood, high quallity fairly high content. Ofc no way as near as much content as Skyrim but ofc thats expected. --- Quallity>Quantity but a fair proportion is needed. >_>



@Red baron, Bestheda took a step in the wrong direction. Oblivion stats were perfectly fine. The dumbed down version of stats which gives you 3 options is not only limiting but pretty much removes the point to stats. And the idea of perks i like, but its not replacement to good old stats. Its how it was in oblivion and also morrowind.

They also dumbed down heavilly on class etc. There is no longer a "Class" for your hero. You do not get any sign for your hero or anyway or showing that you are trying to specialize in any single class. While in Oblivion you had the option.

Not to mention oblivion having a nicer and more fun world. --- The standard is expected for that of Skyrim. --


@Luffy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97J-w-WcigU give it a chance}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=Ddc4f99oAp0 both are true. Yet i am feeling like the latter.


Melee is incrediably hard to grind with shit like Dragons and giants going around. But when your a ranger dragons suddenly become piss easy same with giants ;O also i wanna hear the main theme more. :< All i get is annoying background crap --And sounds so quiet


Edit: lol found a wierd log bug attached. recorded it but its 745 mb :<

Belethors helper had a log on his leg and a floating one in past his hand magic?
 
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As I can see many here knows ES 5 so anyone here know how to get the house on windhelm??? I'm stuck there seriously, I can't trigger the murder event there. I did everything that i can do, my first character had joined the imperials and killed ulfric and there was a knew Jarl but then i can't buy the house, so i create another and joined the stormcloaks and drive the imperials away but still nothing happen on the event. Is there anyone here that already bought the house? If there is one please tell me. I'm dying for that house!!!!! If there is already a post out here(because i didn't read them all please tell me.
There are two ways to get the house.
1. Become an official member of the Storm Cloaks. This is what I did.
2. Help take Windhelm with the Imperials. Not sure when you are able to buy the house, but I've read that you can.

As for the murder quest, if it doesn't trigger after entering the city three times or so, simply buy the house and you'll find different pieces of evidence that should trigger the quest.
 
There are two ways to get the house.
1. Become an official member of the Storm Cloaks. This is what I did.
2. Help take Windhelm with the Imperials. Not sure when you are able to buy the house, but I've read that you can.

As for the murder quest, if it doesn't trigger after entering the city three times or so, simply buy the house and you'll find different pieces of evidence that should trigger the quest.

I heard that that bugged the quest and made you stuck with a house full of dead stuff.
 
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Belethors helper had a log on his leg and a floating one in past his hand magic?

Yea I have seen that happen frequently. And as much as I agree with you on the idea that stats was nice in Oblivion, I like how they try to expand it here and give more options. Though it does also make you more powerful with right choices... which can be a bit of a problem. But hey, still better than being one hit KO by a wolf in oblivion due to the global scalling in that game. (Don't get me wrong, I love Oblivion, but I love Shivering Isles more). I believe I stated earlier that a bland of Shivering Isles and Skyrim would be a perfect game for me. :thumbs_up:
 
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There are two ways to get the house.
1. Become an official member of the Storm Cloaks. This is what I did.
2. Help take Windhelm with the Imperials. Not sure when you are able to buy the house, but I've read that you can.

As for the murder quest, if it doesn't trigger after entering the city three times or so, simply buy the house and you'll find different pieces of evidence that should trigger the quest.

i take and did everything but i just can't buy it. I hear it was bug, i made two characters and no one succeed. I knew someone that tried it 8 times 1 for each race, 4 of them joined the imperials and 4 of them joined the stormcloaks and all of them had bought the house.
 
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I heard that that bugged the quest and made you stuck with a house full of dead stuff.
And then you have to complete the murder quest chain in order to clean and upgrade your house. It all worked fine for me. Although if you upgrade your living room before you clean up the house, it won't allow you to clean the house anymore. Which I accidentally did. : (

i take and did everything but i just can't buy it. I hear it was bug, i made two characters and no one succeed. I knew someone that tried it 8 times 1 for each race, 4 of them joined the imperials and 4 of them joined the stormcloaks and all of them had bought the house.
I don't quite understand what you're saying here. Did you complete the initiation into the Stormcloaks? You should be able to buy the house then. If not, are you talking to the Jarl first and getting him to make you his Thane and then talking to the Jarl's adviser to buy the house?
 
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I Managed to buy the house in Windhelm, pretty easily, The Jarl hates you if you sided with the Imperials, so you goto his 'Steward' and then you can basically, go through the normal procedure of buying a house:
>Helping the people of Eastmarch: 0/5
>Owning a Piece of Property in Eastmarch
>Becoming Thane of Eastmarch

and all i did, was 100% the game, lol i did it via the Imperials though, and the last house i bought/Last Hold i 100%'ed was Eastmarch(Windhelm).
 
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I don't quite understand what you're saying here. Did you complete the initiation into the Stormcloaks? You should be able to buy the house then. If not, are you talking to the Jarl first and getting him to make you his Thane and then talking to the Jarl's adviser to buy the house?

I finished the stormcloacks on my other character and the imperials on my other. But for the stormcloacks the only thing that i need to do is to buy a house to become a thane.

The problem is I can't trigger the murder event, that must happen when you enter windhelm from other holds without fast traveling(I think) from 7pm or 8 to 3am, then you must go to the cemetery where you will see the murder event. The one who is murdered is the lady cook at the inn I can't recall the name.. Then you will need to talk to the guard that will give you the quest to find evidence if I remember on the walk through that I read.


This was what I remember if something is wrong on what i said please tell me the right procedure so I can try it.
 
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As for the murder quest, if it doesn't trigger after entering the city three times or so, simply buy the house and you'll find different pieces of evidence that should trigger the quest.

Really...?
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you need Blood on the Ice complete before you can purchase Hjerim. I think it was in the wiki.

Either way, I 'triggered' Blood on the Ice by talking to a bunch of random people about murders and such, and eventually coming across the dead woman in the graveyard, with the guard woman and three other people(the murderer included, I think) are seemingly astounded by the murder. Simply talk to the them, and the guard woman, and you'll get the quest to talk to the Jarl's steward. At this point I think I went straight to Hjerim and picked the lock to break in and search for evidence.
 
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Wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack!

That's all subjective, so they can't really be ''true''.
But if you dislike Skyrim so much, why not move on? Hanging around in a thread about a game you don't like seems like a waste of time to me.

Thats my whole point. I simply gave me review and oppinions on the matter then got a bunch of hate and now explaining why i'm not gonna suddenyl go say Skyrim rox and I'm not an idiot for having my own oppinion


Offtopic: Deathknight why do you have advertising in your sig xD?
 
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Skyrim is awesome.
You can go into a city, get out your trusted twenty-incher, lockpick your way into a house, butcher, rinse and repeat. If guards come, butcher, rinse and repeat.
Streamlined gameplay taken to the maximum - axepower taken to the extreme.
 
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The problem is I can't trigger the murder event
I already said you don't need to. You should be able to buy the house, and then the evidence in the house will trigger the Blood On The Ice quest.


Really...?
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you need Blood on the Ice complete before you can purchase Hjerim. I think it was in the wiki.
Again, I can tell you from experience that you can; I did. You cannot, however, upgrade your house until the quest is done.
 
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*watches a few minutes of each video and just closes*
yea, nice like/dislike rating, especially the second one resembles a light saber. Anyways, liking a video game or not is an extremely subjective matter, like many other things. So you didn't like anything, and we like it at all, and so on. End of story.

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edit: meanwhile, hit the level 50 and both smithing and enchanting skills are 100, made myself some imba set of enchanted daedric armor, and there's no difference in the terms of soul magnitude between the grand soul and the black soul. Still, encumbrance is killing me. I have, like, tried my best to max my carrying capacity with all the enchantings, but still it will not suffice, still I can only stand one dragon fight and one dungeon before I get over-encumbred. Do you know some good miraclous gear which helps with carrying capacity greatly? All my aim for maxing out the enchanting was for encumbrance.
 
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Do you know some good miraculous gear which helps with carrying capacity greatly? All my aim for maxing out the enchanting was for encumbrance.

First a note: I answered you black soul/grand soul stone question a while ago..

Other hand: Try enchanting for smithing, then boost it once again. Will also make your armor stronger and such when you pour 75% boost to smithing stuff. But yea still.. you can only have so much. Some skills might also help you like lockpicking with +100 to it.
 
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@Luffy
*watches a few minutes of each video and just closes*
yea, nice like/dislike rating, especially the second one resembles a light saber. Anyways, liking a video game or not is an extremely subjective matter, like many other things. So you didn't like anything, and we like it at all, and so on. End of story.
Yeah, true i did same xD but top comments are ftw, especially on the second video :D
 
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First a note: I answered you black soul/grand soul stone question a while ago..

Other hand: Try enchanting for smithing, then boost it once again. Will also make your armor stronger and such when you pour 75% boost to smithing stuff. But yea still.. you can only have so much. Some skills might also help you like lockpicking with +100 to it.

Well I have yet to find a difference between the souls themselves - Honestly I don't know if there would even be a difference - other than they can collect souls from both humanoids and animalistic creatures.

Well, I didn't understand what you say about souls there. You mean, like, you yet to know the difference between a petty soul and a grand soul?

Well yeah, about smithing, yes I will do that for later, I'm even planning to make a bunch of helpful enchanted gear for my inventory for the use, like, once I've seen a video at youtube, that guy had made an elite mage and he was wearing daedric set with full imba destruction enchanted, and when he casts chain lightning, his magicka didn't decrease at all.

I am planning to unlock that pickpocket perk + find and use steed standing stone power too, but even so, I think I might have trouble even with +200 carrying capacity.
 
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Well, I didn't understand what you say about souls there. You mean, like, you yet to know the difference between a petty soul and a grand soul?

Okay, admittedly I might have formulated myself a bit cryptic. What I tried to say was: A grand souls gem can only take one type of souls, I believe its humanoid. But a black soul gem can take both types of souls, both black souls and humanoid souls. :wink:

Other thing: Improving destruction.. hmm don't think that will be as good. Mine is a fully enhanced deadric armor boosted to max level, giving me a total armor rating above 1000, yet its also gives me 100+ to both magicka and health points. (Let me go check my game for exacts - point being here that I have trouble dying :grin: But my magicka does decrease, although quite speed recovery of it).
 
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Okay, admittedly I might have formulated myself a bit cryptic. What I tried to say was: A grand souls gem can only take one type of souls, I believe its humanoid. But a black soul gem can take both types of souls, both black souls and humanoid souls. :wink:
Black soul gems take the souls of humanoids, which is a taboo in skyrim. Normal soul gems can only take creature souls.
 
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Black soul gems take the souls of humanoids, which is a taboo in skyrim. Normal soul gems can only take creature souls.

yea, this. Black soul gems trap the black souls, which are humanoid souls (included dremora and humanoid ghosts. But however, undead don't have black souls) and regular soul gems trap all kinds of other creatures' souls, scaling from petty souls to grand souls. Here's a pattern showing some creatures and their souls:

Petty: Mud Crab, Wolf, Deer, Draugr...
Lesser: Frost Wolf, Restless Draugr...
Common: Bear, Cave Bear, Troll, Frost Troll, Draugr Wight...
Greater: Giant, Draugr Scourge or Death Lord or something like that...
Grand: Mammoth, Dragon Priest.....

Black: Humanoids, Dremora

(Don't forget that dwemer automatons don't have souls)

You should also experiment by trapping their soul and killing it even if you didn't know the soul scale of a creature. The bigger a soul is, more amount it will charge an item or more powerful it will create an enchanted item. And black souls are equivalent to grand souls in the terms of soul magnitude.
 
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Here's what i do, i just buy every soul gem i can find, use a enchanted bow i made with 786 charges, soul trap for 1 second, then i just fast travel to every Mammoth camp i can find, just hide somewhere and just use deadric arrows and 1 shot all the giants and mammoths and after doing it all over skyrim, get like 90 Very powerful soul gems, Also i will goto the odd fort to kill bandits to fuel my black soul gems lol
 
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Here's what i do, i just buy every soul gem i can find, use a enchanted bow i made with 786 charges, soul trap for 1 second, then i just fast travel to every Mammoth camp i can find, just hide somewhere and just use deadric arrows and 1 shot all the giants and mammoths and after doing it all over skyrim, get like 90 Very powerful soul gems, Also i will goto the odd fort to kill bandits to fuel my black soul gems lol
Until my enchanting hit max, I definitely had my off-hand weapon enchanted with soul steal. I think the last one had over 1000 charges. Now I have so much money I can buy soul gems when needed.
 
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How can anyone insult Skyrim? You must have to hate any game that has fun. This has to be the best game I have EVER played. (Sorry, even though i think warcraft is really fun, it can go suck an egg if I were offered skyrim instead.) BTW, the only game i've SEEN that has better graphics was Battlefield 3.
 
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skyrim sucks because of the following gameplay reasons.

- no isometric view
- only wasd movement. I prefer click and point movement with mouse.
- camera rotation is controlled by mouse. WTF ? please I like to press a keyboard key to rotate the camera or my character [ex Dragon age, dungeon siege 3, and neverwinternights].
- no tactics slots [minor importance].

Personally I stay away from TES series and similar games. If only skyrim has the game controls and mechanics of Dragon Age origins, this game would have been fun to play.
 
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skyrim sucks because of the following gameplay reasons.

- no isometric view
- only wasd movement. I prefer click and point movement with mouse.
- camera rotation is controlled by mouse. WTF ? please I like to press a keyboard key to rotate the camera or my character [ex Dragon age, dungeon siege 3, and neverwinternights].
- no tactics slots [minor importance].

Personally I stay away from TES series and similar games. If only skyrim has the game controls and mechanics of Dragon Age origins, this game would have been fun to play.

You are aware that DA:O had no isometric view as is?
And that first person games generally use the mouse?
Edit: and that, of course, if it has the controls and mechanics of DA:O, it'd be a ripoff and wouldn't be better than DA:O, as it is now.
 
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