[General] Double Damage

[Aeroblyctos]

Hey,

I'm creating an ability. If under effect of an ability the unit receives double damage from basic attacks.

I tried this but it didn't work:

• Frozen Paradise Attack I Ultimate Ability
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is attacked
  • Conditions
    • ((Attacked unit) is in UG_Frozen_Paradise) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Unit - Cause (Attacking unit) to damage (Attacked unit), dealing (Damage taken) damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Do you have a way that could work?

 

[gorillabull]

you dont use a damage engine?

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Nope.

I don't need any complicated systems for a simple ability.

 

[Garfield1337]

Damage taken is a response to Unit takes damage event, not Unit is attacked. You'll probably need to use some Damage Engine, there are many in the spell section and they are generally easy to use.

 

[CroMoX]

Is attacked triggers before you deal the damage, so in the Action dealing (Damage Taken) probably won't work, since it hasn't registered damage yet, not dealing double damage.

So you will need to use a damage detection system

 

[Dr Super Good]

Is attacked triggers when a unit begins the attack sequence before it goes past a point of no return. This means that players controling units with animation backswing can trigger the event just by pressing S (Stop ability) with a period less than the backswing.

No damage is dealt during the event so there is no event response for damage taken.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Well, what about simply doing same damage twice? Works for me too. As long as things are simple and I don't need any extra superb über complicated systems. I don't wanna bang my head 666 times before one simple thing is done.

 

[themerion]

When the effect starts, add a command aura, targets: self, with 100% increase. Don't know how much that will work with bonuses. but it's probably one of the easier methods.

Or, if the unit is casting the ability on itself, you can use roar (Battle cry, or whatev it's called. Druid of the Claw's ability).

 

[looking_for_help]

Well, what about simply doing same damage twice? Works for me too.

Dangerous, because this will also deal damage if the attack missed the target or you canceled the attack before damage was dealt -> bugged and abusable.

If you don't want to use a DDS then just use roar as themerion said. It does exactly what you want (you don't even need to create an ability for that).

 

[Maker]

OnDamage Events Game - damageEventTrigger becomes Equal to 1.00 Conditions True Equal to True // Your condition damageType Equal to PHYSICAL Actions Set amount = (2.00 x amount)

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=skdfhd

 

[Binsu]

Bro, damage taken is the damage your hero had take. Try Maker's trigger, it always work!

 

[Doomlord]

Maker's trigger uses the damage engine which Aero won't use.

You can use a trigger to add all unit to a group at map init and another to add units to said group with the unit enter map event. You will also need a turned off, no event trigger called Take Damage. Add to that trigger the event unit in the group take damage. Then run a Unit Attacked trigger, if the attacker has a buff from your ability run a 0.4 timer. Turn on the Take Damage trigger and add the Timer Expire event to it. You can then add actions to the Take Damage trigger with (Damage Taken). Turn off Take Damage at the end of your action code.

I'm on a phone so I can't post triggers. Sorry.

 

[HesitationSnow]

It has to be Maker's trigger.
There is no other way of detecting Physical Damage and applying it on the double.
You could register all affected units in a damage event but it wouldn't be as efficient as a damage system, and it would have no way of identifying physical vs spell damage.

As an easy alternative you could create negative armor aura in the spell's area of effect.

 

[defskull]

If you don't want to import a system, just use the default Blizzard trigger function;

• Unit - Blood Mage 0000 <gen> Takes damage

If the unit is not a pre-defined unit, do this;

• Trigger - Add to Damage Event <gen> the event (Unit - (Triggering unit) Takes damage)

As for the 2nd trigger, make sure that the unit don't get registered twice (you can use Unit Group check for this, etc).

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • ((Triggering unit) is in UnitGroup) Equal to False
  • Then - Actions
    • Trigger - Add to Damage Event <gen> the event (Unit - (Triggering unit) Takes damage)
    • Unit Group - Add (Triggering unit) to UnitGroup
  • Else - Actions

The (Triggering unit) is up to you on how you want to register the unit event.
The way I see it, this event occurs when unit enters UG_Frozen_Paradise region, right ?
Therefore, use this as your event.

• Damage Event
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Unit - Cause (Damage source) to damage (Triggering unit), dealing (Damage taken) damage of attack type Hero and damage type Normal
    • Trigger - Turn on (This trigger)

Since the unit (Source) has damaged the unit (Target) initially, you would just need the same damage amount to be dealt to the unit (Target), thus making it 2x damage.

 

[Doomlord]

@HesitationSnow: Damage engine is the best but if you read through the whole thread you will see that the OP vehemently refuse to use a system. I am just suggesting a bad but applicable alternative.

Defskull's is almost my suggestion earlier, only missing the 0.4s attack timer as a (bad) way to detect physical damage.

 

[Maker]

There is no proper way to detect if the damage came from a spell or not. There are some options:

1) You trigger all spell damage, don't make anything in object editor deal damage. This way you can exclude spell damage from being multiplied
2) Or use an orb ablity that applies a buff. Unit takes damage, has buff -> damage came from basic attack. Orb effects do not stack (no slow and life steal for example at the same time), you can only have one at a time, so this is not so good solution.
3) Use the system I posted. However some spells might deal physical damage (like Barrage) but that is rare and avoidable.

The method Doomlord and defskull suggested multiplies all damage.

 

[Doomlord]

Mine only multiplies physical. 0.4s is not enough to cast a spell I think.

If I am wrong somehow, please enlighten me.

 

[Doomlord]

Hey,

I'm creating an ability. If under effect of an ability the unit receives double damage from basic attacks.

I tried this but it didn't work:

• Frozen Paradise Attack I Ultimate Ability
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is attacked
  • Conditions
    • ((Attacked unit) is in UG_Frozen_Paradise) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Unit - Cause (Attacking unit) to damage (Attacked unit), dealing (Damage taken) damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Do you have a way that could work?

He only wants physical.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Oh yea, like Doomlord said, I only want the damage be 'physical'.

 

[Maker]

Oh yea, like Doomlord said, I only want the damage be 'physical'.

Then you have to use the system I posted.

 

[defskull]

Maker, can you explain in fast mode, how does that system differentiate between Physical and Magical damage ?
I'm just curious.

 

[Almia]

^ LFH's Damage System filters out damage by means of an ability based on Runed Bracers.

 

[Maker]

It used Runed Bracers item with 2.0 damage reduction, it is given to all units. Spells then do negative damage. Therefore if damage taken is less than 0, it came from a spell.