Difference between new and edited object

[Super-Sheep]

So, in object editor you can edit the existing ones or create new one... I've seen people who create new ones, edit the current ones, or do both. I myself create new ones for better organization and blabla.

Okay, you can organize your objects a lot easier by creating new ones, but are there any other differences? File size? Loading time? Something else? Or are the both methods identically same by their mechanics?

 

[reason 3]

Everything that is already in map,does not take more space,load time or something else...These are already in the .mpq too.Everything new you create i think it takes a very little space...maybe 100 custom units take up about 10kb...Not very sure though about the custom created.

 

[Maker]

Just for shits and giggles, I compared a map with 1 extra peasant unit vs without that custom peasant. File sizes were:

66036 bytes without the unit
66147 bytes with the unit

So that would be 111 bytes for that specific unit in that map. Draw your own conclusions

 

[reason 3]

That's about what i said...

 

[VergilThazaar]

But, don't custom (edited) values on a pre-existing unit take space too?

 

[D4RK_G4ND4LF]

made some tests (all numbers in Bytes)

without everything
15556
with peasant
15731
with normal peasant 100% modified
16937
with footy
15722
with bloodmage
15594

since the modified peasant had a lot of more data != 0/null/0.00/none I think that both are equal but make your own just to be sure

edit: my bad...first I had xx.xxx but I wasn't sure if its . or , so I made it xxxxx and forgot about the kbyte thing

 

[manstie]

Conclusion: No matter what you edit; create custom units, edit existing units in object editor, it increases file size. Bigger file = longer loading (1kb makes almost no difference in loading)

 

[Super-Sheep]

made some tests (all numbers in KByte)

without everything
15556
with peasant
15731
with normal peasant 100% modified
16937
with footy
15722
with bloodmage
15594

since the modified peasant had a lot of more data != 0/null/0.00/none I think that both are equal but make your own just to be sure

But. More I modify, more space it takes?

 

[reason 3]

Yes,but the difference is too small...hardly noticeable.

 

[Maker]

made some tests (all numbers in KByte)

without everything
15556
with peasant
15731
...

Are you sure those are kilobytes, not just bytes?

 

[Super-Sheep]

Yes,but the difference is too small...hardly noticeable.

Without everything
15556

with peasant
15731 (~+200?)

with normal peasant 100% modified
16937 (~+1500?)


Difference to the last one is rather huge, when compared to the difference of the first and second one.

 

[reason 3]

These numbers are bytes...and the max limit of map size is 8mb.Think it again.

 

[Super-Sheep]

But the fact is that people wont download a new random map if it takes more than 30 seconds to download.

 

[VergilThazaar]

But the fact is that people wont download a new random map if it takes more than 30 seconds to download.

Well, we can't just NOT make units so it doesn't really matter. Besides I don't think with a few units you'll get your map's downloading over 30 seconds!

 

[reason 3]

Hmm..if the map is good,most people will download it from sites,so the size won't be a problem.For example,let's take DotA.It's size is about 5.5 mb(too much time for download)but the 90% of the Bnet has the map.

*Also...if you don't have imports,even if you try too hard you won't be able to increase the size of the map more than 1.5 mb.