Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[tomoraider]

Of all the custom campaigns I've played this is my favorite, I played it a long time ago and now I've started it again.

Thank you, glad you like it!

Mission number 5 "a rallying point" is a great idea, however you have to get lucky with the timings of the attacks and your allies responses. It's a very frustrating mission and your allies really don't give great back up. A suggestion would be to let the hero's level up 2 points during and maybe a couple more tombs hidden around town. Playing on an easier setting doesn't really make a difference because the attack waves are the same size. Have gotten to 4:00 minutes, it's just finding the timing to get the 2nd gate open is awkward if seemingly non existent.

Edit- have finished the episode now and the campaign, opening the two gates in seperate attempts really helped, plus leaving all the lightening lizards be on the first run through apart from those guarding the gate.

Very enjoyable campaign, the ending seems to suggest some developments in the story and a possible sequel which would be awesome. On a semi related note, it's always bitter sweet to finally play with all your hero's maxxed, which is great, however it's always one of the final missions and then the game ends.

I believe this mission is a bit bugged on Reforged. The enemy attacks too hard at the start which throws the entire difficulty off. But I am glad you liked the campaign!

This is one of the best campaigns ever

Thank you!

The story is the same as RotBW here. A masterpiece that sticks in the brain by selling immersive, gloomy mood and deep narration underneath reimagined events of the WoW. Writing of Sylvanas is something I find to be deserving special highlight, for expressing her dark, complex and deeply hurt mentality. Writing such character was never easy, and was probably also like that for Blizzard team writing TBC and WotLK. But this campaign did it right. Also Forsaken techtree is superfun to play.

I don't play WoW, but I watch cutscenes and stuff from it from time to time to keep up with the story. When I watched cutscenes from Shadowlands, I remember myself thinking something like "Omg, this is so bad. These guys should play CotF to learn how to write Sylvanas correctly".

Thank you, this really means a lot! Shadowlands was definitely a disappointment. There was so much potential with Sylvanas and they didn't deliver at all. I am quite honored you feel I got her character right!

 

[Oceus]

Hello,

Guess it's around the fourth time I do you campaigns, which I still enjoy much. However, regarding the difficulty settings (hard), I have things to say.

Mission 5 is the big issue, it's a "roll the dice until you have the good waves". I've finally made it, because of that, to be honest. This is what I have observed :

- At the start, the obvious choice is to send Jaina get the Lordaeron followers. They are the main force in the up Orgrimmar. At the same time, you can send Sylvanas and Thrall clean the thunderous lizard at Garrosh portail, then Jaina can arrive precisely when you kill them and activate Garrosh. Then you can get back to Orgrimmar just for the arrival of the waves.

- Here start the problem : you have creeps on the map, Drek'thar to free, and a city to defend. The waves are simply too much to leave efficiently the city to get Drek'thar or creeps, making those things useless.

- The allied IA is useless. Really. Garrosh and Drek'thar often take the long road and fight with lizards and murlocs, sometimes even dying in the process. Worst case is they come, then go up and low, locked into movement, never do anything. But anyway, it's not like what they sent is especially good. Something is wrong with those two guys. The problem is I managed to get Jaina pass through the murloc alone when Thrall and Sylvanas where defending, using her ultimate for taking down the quillboar, and my reward is Drek'thar dying alone on the murlocs and barely doing anything for the rest of the mission. Eh.

- It seems that the waves are random. Playing the campaign, it happens that I have sometimes three waves at each point (which means I lose, there is no way the defender can take that much), sometimes only one by one, the best (or worst from a design perspective?) is the south don't attack regularily letting you breath for a second.

- That brings me to the heroes. They are... not exactly the best defenders of the world. Strangely, Jaina don't have the regular Q, it's only 4 waves, meaning you can't kill necromander/banshee/chariots and the like in one wave. Not having access to her aura of illumination means mana is a big issue overall. Ring of frost is good, except that it have friendly fire, making it often unusable or frankly just a tool to fire in you own foot. Thrall is here to play the aura of illumination, make a earth totem and maybe wolves sometimes. You can let him goes low on mana pool. For Sylvanas, the silence and the summoning are usefull, the rest not much. The global problem is that : you have no hero that can clean efficiently large pack of enemy, no hero with an ability to focus and kill quickly the strongest threats that heroes and frost wyrms are, and mana and heal can quickly become a problem to sustain waves.

- You can't upgrade them efficiently because money is limited and you can't really creep. I think getting a fraction of the money the AI makes during the mission could be good. That reward you if you defend Lordaeron's faction, cause your income is doubled. That means healing and mana potions, and orbs of lightning. Nothing can make your heroes broken but they at least can keep fighting better.

- The size of the map is a problem. The healing and mana fountains are far from each others, going to north to north west to south take a lot of time preventing you to roam efficiently. It's also keep you to creep because you can't afford to walk that far from Orgrimmar.


So, critics is good, but here my ideas to solve a part of the issues (they don't need all to be solve, of course that would totally destroy the difficulty) :

- Concerning Garrosh and Drek'thar, instead of having those two trying to come from the portal, which seems to be a big problem for the pathfinding of the AI, make some space behind Lordaeron and Orgrimmar base. When you activate a portal, they will sent workers, themselves and a bunch of units. The workers will build the altar, and building for troops. Instead of coming with a totally random behavior, they will now be present directly in the Lordaeron base for Drek'thar, and Orgrimmar base for Garrosh. Then it will be a constant reinforcement and a rewarding power spike. The alternative road would be to give control of Drek'thar and Garrosh to the player (not the units, just the heroes).

- About the size of the map, I think you can keep the two, but two changes could help : transform the two fountains in one in the middle of the map that gives mana and health. Being on the middle of the map, that could be a great way to help you to make a last stand (that would buy only a bit of time if the enemy has destroyed north and south, not change everything). Also the shop should be in the middle too.

- Makes the lich coming less often (it's by far the worst enemy to fight, the lich's kit is excellent against anything and the anti magic shield from the banshees prevent you to kill it efficiently). The waves would still be dangerous that way.

One last thing, not sure if it is intended or not, but if you hold 20 minutes but are already drown in the quantity of enemies, the allied don't help you in the defense, meaning you can still lose.

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For the rest of the campaign, my main grip is the unit balance. Dark ranger are interesting by design but things are kinda off about them. They are very fragile, don't have a long range, their ghost form and spiders are too weak to be relevant even in the mission two, and the two types of arrows aren't really a choice. My suggestion, and something that I think is logical from a lore perspective considering dark rangers are heroes to begin with, is changing them to make a 3 food units, with like 500 - 550 hp (so they will not be that fragile). That way, you can justify a stronger spider, ghost form. For the arrows, the poison one needs to be at least at 30% effect instead of 15% to justify itself, I think.

Apothecary have no automatic ability, it's too much micro for abilities not really impactful except the healing waves.

I want just to point that I appreciate the banshees are being able to mind control workers ranging from peons to make dragons in 2, crusader in 3 and 4 for make humans, and vrykul to make mammoth riders in 7 and 10 is awesome. And a solution to many problems. Also, the mammoth rider don't count as food for the later missions, making you able to create an unlimited army of them.

Val'kyr are op. Like, too much op. One of them isn't that strong, but a doomstack of val'kyr is absurd. Ability to heal in pack, going from 1 to 1250 hp, the two different colors means control group are way easier to manager for the heal, you can bring back the deads, and their attack strength is damn powerfull too. Being a flyer, most enemies can just watch you shred everything, and in fly mode, their a armor is still heavy, many the piercing attacks of the ranged units are not as strong as they should be against flyers. They turn mission 11 into a joke. A stack can take down Arthas and every base with no much efforts. I didn't even need the AI in that one (which was doing the same thing as Drek'thar and Garrosh, being unable to know where to go). Why not limit val'kyrs as one per type, so two at the same times in you army? Or turn their armor into light when they fly, so ranged can take down them way faster?

The campaign has a bit too much of heroes sections imo. It's personal, but the RTS aspect is lacking after the Scarlet Crusade arc. 5, Half of 6, 8, 9, and 12 revolves around heroes, that means more than 1/3 of the campaign, and for the rest of the missions, they still do most of the work in 7 and 10. The RTS aspect kinda fell off, especially when most of the strategies are walling and making a big army (of val'kyr in the last two RTS missions).

I have no real solution because you would have to remake for missions from the ground. But heh, I have abandon of the lich king, I was too bored at that point to persist trying him.

I think you can at least turn mission 10 into a time limited one from the beginning. You start with 30 minutes to do it, because you are supposed to come back at the wrathgate. Then Vereesa event after dealing with the vrykuls, with it's own 10 minutes time limit.

Also the Alliance being here in 6 makes no sense. I know you kept that from the 2.0 storyline, but without the wrathgates, they are no explanations of being in Undercity. I think making an event like Jaina warning Thrall when you destroyed the demonic forces outside that Varian, being aware of what happens, have come to deal with the demonic threat, and that he will soon interfere. Then you do the Undercity section, and when the Alliance comes at the end, that makes sense. They are just late.

Anyway, my favorite mission was 4. Defending as hard as you can, collecting meats on the attackers, feeding the bats that slowly take ground for you, and making the Crusade rebels are all great ways to turn what seems to be an impossible mission into a really pleasant one.

 

[tomoraider]

Thanks for your feedback! The difficulty of the campaign is currently all over the place as the AIs have been broken since the last couple of patches. This is the main reason why CH5 is so unpredictable. My main goal with the campaign's next update is to create a new, predictable AI system for all maps, which should make CH5 much easier to balance. This also includes fixing the friendly AIs, which should make them predictable as well.

As for your other suggestions, I like the idea of buffing Dark Rangers, although I'm okay with them staying a 2 food unit. It's interesting that you point out CH11 as too easy since the impression I've had from other people is that it's actually one of the harder maps. I suppose making a ton of val'kyr can make it easy, but I think I'm okay with that. I'm not sure if I want to nerf the val'kyr or prevent the player from using that specific tactic to win. I'll need to look into it.

And your point about CH6 makes sense. I like the idea of involving Jaina there before the actual attack.

 

[Shellshock]

So for Mission 5 which is the most difficult mission in the game.

You can actually unlock the 2 bases before the first wave.

First as soon as the game starts send Thrall and Sylvanus to the first Gateway. Then send Jaina to teleport the small units that are the near the undead bases. Then Send Jaina to the first porta

Use Sylvanus and Thrall to quickly kill the enemies but don't use Sylvanus's transform ability.

After they die Jaina should be getting close to the portal

Use sylvanus's blink ability to teleport yourself to the top of the portal. During the fight Jaina should reach the first Portal. Send Thrall back through the portal.

the first waves are the easiest and the best time to make to unlock both portals.

After that use Jaina to unlock the other portal and send both you guys home.

Just to be clear if anyone has any funny ideas. No you cannot train units in this mission. I kept the shadowhall from mission 1 (you can get them at mission 2 as well) and they don't build in this mission.

This was a really difficult mission. I had to save and load several times and half the base was destroyed. But i finally did it.

 

[Oceus]

Thanks for your feedback! The difficulty of the campaign is currently all over the place as the AIs have been broken since the last couple of patches. This is the main reason why CH5 is so unpredictable. My main goal with the campaign's next update is to create a new, predictable AI system for all maps, which should make CH5 much easier to balance. This also includes fixing the friendly AIs, which should make them predictable as well.

Ah, this explains that! I will wait for the fix, it will be cool to play again under better circumstances then.

As for your other suggestions, I like the idea of buffing Dark Rangers, although I'm okay with them staying a 2 food unit. It's interesting that you point out CH11 as too easy since the impression I've had from other people is that it's actually one of the harder maps. I suppose making a ton of val'kyr can make it easy, but I think I'm okay with that. I'm not sure if I want to nerf the val'kyr or prevent the player from using that specific tactic to win. I'll need to look into it.

If you don't buff their attack damages, I think it should be still balanced. Strong ranged units, for sure, but not too op.

I remember doing the chapter 11 also with blood bats years ago, when the AI was efficient (before Reforged). I honestly don't find it hard when you understand making ground units is kinda pointless considering how many people there are on the ground. Bats can utterly destroy frost wyrm and gargoyles and nuke quickly casters, when the ally pushes, or val'kyrs can do val'kyrs things and win without the AI (what I have done). You can even left Vereesa and Sylvanas to defend with towers at your base with ease. It's a long map for sure seeing the amount of ennemies but I had more trouble with more or less all other chapters (not saying all were difficult, just a time to adjust my strat).

Honestly I don't think you should nerf that much val'kyr in this case if you want to keep them strong, maybe just making their armor light so they are a regular flyer with the regular weakness of flyers. Don't know if it's possible to keep an heavy armor on the ground and a light one in air when you swtich? Even then, by being cautious, I think you can deal with the mission.

Shellshock :

Ah I didn't think of using Sylvanas ultimate ability to directly deal with the hurans in the highground. Interesting idea.

But with the broken AI, I have to point that the first waves are actually not necessary the easiest, I've faced more than one time (I've reload this chapter 20 times) three attack waves able to destroy a lot of buildings. It will probably be better when everything with the AI will be fixed.

 

[Raven80]

Thanks for your feedback! The difficulty of the campaign is currently all over the place as the AIs have been broken since the last couple of patches. This is the main reason why CH5 is so unpredictable. My main goal with the campaign's next update is to create a new, predictable AI system for all maps, which should make CH5 much easier to balance. This also includes fixing the friendly AIs, which should make them predictable as well.

As for your other suggestions, I like the idea of buffing Dark Rangers, although I'm okay with them staying a 2 food unit. It's interesting that you point out CH11 as too easy since the impression I've had from other people is that it's actually one of the harder maps. I suppose making a ton of val'kyr can make it easy, but I think I'm okay with that. I'm not sure if I want to nerf the val'kyr or prevent the player from using that specific tactic to win. I'll need to look into it.

And your point about CH6 makes sense. I like the idea of involving Jaina there before the actual attack.

Hi ! Will you update it for 1.36 or for the latest patch before reforged ? Kinda curious since i have to keep like 4-5 different versions of the game to be able to play all my favourite campaigns :/ Wish all the creators would update it to latest patch just for convinience but i understand their reasons why they are not
Anyway, glad to hear the update is coming, cant wait to try it

 

[tomoraider]

Just to be clear if anyone has any funny ideas. No you cannot train units in this mission. I kept the shadowhall from mission 1 (you can get them at mission 2 as well) and they don't build in this mission.

Never occurred to me you could bring a Tiny Shadowkeep to a later mission. I should turn on building options then, if I a player does that, they should be rewarded!

If you don't buff their attack damages, I think it should be still balanced. Strong ranged units, for sure, but not too op.

I think I'll buff their HP a bit and give them a weaker version of Evasion as a passive. It feels in theme with Dark Rangers (calling it something like Wrapped in Shadows), and I would like them to have a bit more survivability.

Hi ! Will you update it for 1.36 or for the latest patch before reforged ? Kinda curious since i have to keep like 4-5 different versions of the game to be able to play all my favourite campaigns :/ Wish all the creators would update it to latest patch just for convinience but i understand their reasons why they are not
Anyway, glad to hear the update is coming, cant wait to try it

I am planning to update it for the current patch and just keep one version of the game available in the future. It's a lot of work, but I hope to finish it sometime soon-ish.

 

[Shellshock]

Never occurred to me you could bring a Tiny Shadowkeep to a later mission. I should turn on building options then, if I a player does that, they should be rewarded!

If that's the case I do Request an additional goldmine as the units that you save nearest to the base use that goldmine. Also a goldmine on the last mission since you can keep one in that regard as well.

I'm sure you have a bunch of ideas that you want to implement. I should've kept track of the things I wanted to change.

But Overall I don't think I have that much of a problem.

For the mission Involving Balanzaar that you have to kill. Why not Have us kill a Hero from the Human side so Balanzar has a reason to get pissed.

I would like an option for this because I would like to test whether or not I can kill both Balanzar whilst being attacked by humans as well for the flex.

My Final request would be to have control over my allies in every mission. IN EVERY MISSION.

Final Final Request. A good chunk of us have already beaten the level (without cheats) despite it being this hard. Would you add an impossible difficulty?

But with the broken AI, I have to point that the first waves are actually not necessary the easiest, I've faced more than one time (I've reload this chapter 20 times) three attack waves able to destroy a lot of buildings. It will probably be better when everything with the AI will be fixed.

You should still be able to beat the enemies. I know they aren't the easiest but thrall should be able to slow down until the rest of your heroes arrive.

 

[tomoraider]

For the mission Involving Balanzaar that you have to kill. Why not Have us kill a Hero from the Human side so Balanzar has a reason to get pissed.

Oh I'm way ahead of you

Final Final Request. A good chunk of us have already beaten the level (without cheats) despite it being this hard. Would you add an impossible difficulty?

An insanity difficulty, eh? I like this idea...

 

[Raven80]

I am planning to update it for the current patch and just keep one version of the game available in the future. It's a lot of work, but I hope to finish it sometime soon-ish.

Awesome ! Also, will you update Rise of the Blood Elves too ? I think rotbe update is a bit more urgent, since cotf got a bit more love back in the days (just my opinion)

 

[tomoraider]

Awesome ! Also, will you update Rise of the Blood Elves too ? I think rotbe update is a bit more urgent, since cotf got a bit more love back in the days (just my opinion)

Maybe, can't say. I'd like to do it, but updating CotF is already an annoying amount of work. We'll see.

 

[Oceus]

You should still be able to beat the enemies. I know they aren't the easiest but thrall should be able to slow down until the rest of your heroes arrive.

I've done it before writing my post. It's just that the IA don't work properly for now and the difficulty depends very much from what they actually do.

 

[tomoraider]

Hello, friends! I need a few people to help me test the new AI system in Curse of the Forsaken. So far, it is implemented into only one map (Chapter Four, the final Scarlet Crusade map). I really want to test it to death before implementing it further, so I think it would be very helpful if I had more hands and eyes on it. Five or six people would be ideal.

This is for the current version of the game (WC3 v1.36.0). Please apply only if you own this version of the game, and if you are going to be available to play the map a few times on multiple difficulties and provide more thorough feedback, especially if you run into any issues. I will invite you into a Discord server where we can discuss a bit more in detail how I'd like you to approach testing.

It would also be very helpful if anyone who is more experienced with triggers would like to take a look at how I set it up and offer suggestions whether anything can or should be done differently, if I might be missing anything, etc.

Also, I will likely need additional testing once the whole campaign update is done, so let me know immediately if you are interesting in doing that in the future as well.

 

[Oceus]

I would have gladly helped you but I will be a bit busy with Baldur's Gate for the next... days, at least? Not the best timing haha

 

[Shellshock]

its wild to think this is actually getting an update.

Played adventures Rowan the Wise. Got an update

Played Curse of the Forsaken. Got an Update

what should I play next? XD

 

[Cristian23]

its wild to think this is actually getting an update.

Played adventures Rowan the Wise. Got an update

Played Curse of the Forsaken. Got an Update

what should I play next? XD

Malfurion's Quest needs an update tho

 

[mym]

Hello, friends! I need a few people to help me test the new AI system in Curse of the Forsaken. So far, it is implemented into only one map (Chapter Four, the final Scarlet Crusade map). I really want to test it to death before implementing it further, so I think it would be very helpful if I had more hands and eyes on it. Five or six people would be ideal.

This is for the current version of the game (WC3 v1.36.0). Please apply only if you own this version of the game, and if you are going to be available to play the map a few times on multiple difficulties and provide more thorough feedback, especially if you run into any issues. I will reach out in a day or two and then invite you into a Discord server where we can discuss a bit more in detail how I'd like you to approach testing.

It would also be very helpful if anyone who is more experienced with triggers would like to take a look at how I set it up and offer suggestions whether anything can or should be done differently, if I might be missing anything, etc.

Also, I will likely need additional testing once the whole campaign update is done, so let me know immediately if you are interesting in doing that in the future as well.

discord: mym97

 

[Ravager16829]

Malfurion's Quest needs an update tho

Fan-made campaigns based on the original game novels (Day of Dragon, The Last Guardian, Lord of the Clans) written by OutsiderXE now requires a Reforged (though older versions were still available to be playable on 1.31.1).

 

[mym]

Curse of the Forsaken (5/5)

Pros:

• Gameplay
• Cinematics
• Language/dialogue
• Story
• Easter Eggs
• Lenght
• Diversity in playstyle
• Balance
• Atmosphere

Cons:
- Nothing worth mentioning

However some times custom models are not better than the original resources, hope to see AI voices added.

played on Reforged

 

[K.GamingPlays]

Curse of the Forsaken (5/5)

Pros:

• Gameplay
• Cinematics
• Language/dialogue
• Story
• Easter Eggs
• Lenght
• Diversity in playstyle
• Balance
• Atmosphere

Cons:
- Nothing worth mentioning

However some times custom models are not better than the original resources, hope to see AI voices added.

played on Reforged

I have played the campaign in Reforged and i changed some models like the dark rangers and sylvanas banshee form . I will stream the campaign on my chanel next month after finishing Rise of the Blood Elves

 

[Vizireanu Dan Florin]

i enjoyed it

 

[tomoraider]

Curse of the Forsaken Classic

Hi, everyone! This is a bit of an update post. I feel confident enough to say that the upcoming update for Curse of the Forsaken is progressing very well. I will also be be bold and say, if everything goes according to plan, it will be finished in a month or two.

The update will be called Curse of the Forsaken Classic, referring to the campaign's usage of classic graphics. I originally intended for this to be a fairly small update, but it has grown quite a bit in the meantime. It's not a massive overhaul of the campaign as v3.0 was, but it's fairly significant update on its own.

At the moment, most of the changes and systems are set in place and it's just a matter of applying them to all the maps.

Here's a brief of some of the main changes to come:

• An overhaul of the enemy and ally AI system across all maps, ensuring a more stable gameplay experience due to lack of unpredictable AI behaviour or glitches.
• Rebalanced difficulties. Normal will now allow the player to take a breath, but hard will remain properly challenging. With the new AI system the maps are significantly easier to balance.
• Update to all the factions in the campaign, making everyone stand out in their own way. For example, the Forsaken will see some visual updates and new abilities while the Scarlet Crusade will receive a full overhaul.
• Overhaul and update to some of the side quests. Some of the more boring side quests have been replaced with more unique, interesting ones. For example, in Chapter Three, Rhonin will no longer ask you to destroy a Scarlet Crusade base but to help him stabilise the waygate network the Kirin Tor has set up around the map. You will have to destroy ghosts and wraiths haunting the network while facing some familiar enemies.
• New unique items.
• The terrain of some of the maps has been siginificantly updated.
• Some of the maps have received some changes and some have new features. For example, the Scarlet Crusade in Chapter Four has some new, familiar heroes on their side, while in Chapter Eleven the Horde and Alliance's gunships will be joining the pitched battle in Icecrown.
• A couple of cinematics have new scenes in order to improve the pacing of the story.
• A lot of other minor fixes and changes ensuring a more overall polished experience.

I am very excited for you all to play this update. It's been a long time since I've done anything Warcraft 3 related, so it has been a lot of fun working on this. After this update, Curse of the Forsaken will be, in my opinion, a truly polished experience.


State of Rise of the Blood Elves

Read more here about my intention for an update for Rise of the Blood Elves: Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0


Discord server

Additionally, I've created a Discord server for the discussion of my campaigns. I will share screenshots there, ask for suggestions if I need any, and update you on the progress of the campaign as I'm working on it. I have made separate channels for discussing RotBE and CotF. Feel free to join if you'd like to discuss my campaigns and share any of your own suggestions.

Click here to join: Join the Tomoraider's WC3 Campaigns Discord Server!

 

[Vizireanu Dan Florin]

May i ask if there will be a continuation of this campaign ?

 

[tomoraider]

May i ask if there will be a continuation of this campaign ?

Nope, I have no plans to make sequels.

 

[Vizireanu Dan Florin]

why not ? it was very fun i already forgot what was about but i enjoyed it

 

[Shellshock]

@Vizireanu Dan Florin

We all want a sequel. Hell I bet even tomoraider wants a sequel.

All these maps takes years of work. Some of them have been worked on for half a decade. Its really not fair to ask someone to put half of decade of work into a map.

 

[Vizireanu Dan Florin]

yeah it's sad , not your fault maps req so much of your life time to make a map ...

 

[tomoraider]

Hey everyone, I wanted to post a bit of a general update where I'm at with CotF Classic since I had originally said it would take a month or two in my last post.

While it's progressing really well, it's going to take longer. Not sure how much, but I am about halfway there. I had underestimated how much time some of these changes would take, and one thing led to another and I had a bunch of new ideas along the way (as well as some issues) that have added to the time.

I post occasional updates of my progress in the Discord server I made, and some of the users there have made some great suggestions that have made it into the campaign (and added to the development time as well! ). Here's a new invite link if anyone would like to join: Join the Tomoraider's WC3 Campaigns Discord Server!

I am confident this is going to be an awesome update once it's done. With the new AI system, updated factions and other stuff, it really feels like a more advanced version of CotF. I'm super excited for everyone to experience this version of the campaign!

 

[252542477]

Hi，thank you for the update. I would like to know what version of Warcraft 3 is required for the new campaign to run.

 

[Ravager16829]

Hi，thank you for the update. I would like to know what version of Warcraft 3 is required for the new campaign to run.

Read the previous comments. The new Classic Campaign is intended for Reforged (1.36) with some minor changes, but only playable on legacy graphics.

 

[Yuefang]

Curse of the Forsaken Classic

Hi, everyone! This is a bit of an update post. I feel confident enough to say that the upcoming update for Curse of the Forsaken is progressing very well. I will also be be bold and say, if everything goes according to plan, it will be finished in a month or two.

The update will be called Curse of the Forsaken Classic, referring to the campaign's usage of classic graphics. I originally intended for this to be a fairly small update, but it has grown quite a bit in the meantime. It's not a massive overhaul of the campaign as v3.0 was, but it's fairly significant update on its own.

At the moment, most of the changes and systems are set in place and it's just a matter of applying them to all the maps.

Here's a brief of some of the main changes to come:

• An overhaul of the enemy and ally AI system across all maps, ensuring a more stable gameplay experience due to lack of unpredictable AI behaviour or glitches.
• Rebalanced difficulties. Normal will now allow the player to take a breath, but hard will remain properly challenging. With the new AI system the maps are significantly easier to balance.
• Update to all the factions in the campaign, making everyone stand out in their own way. For example, the Forsaken will see some visual updates and new abilities while the Scarlet Crusade will receive a full overhaul.
• Overhaul and update to some of the side quests. Some of the more boring side quests have been replaced with more unique, interesting ones. For example, in Chapter Three, Rhonin will no longer ask you to destroy a Scarlet Crusade base but to help him stabilise the waygate network the Kirin Tor has set up around the map. You will have to destroy ghosts and wraiths haunting the network while facing some familiar enemies.
• New unique items.
• The terrain of some of the maps has been siginificantly updated.
• Some of the maps have received some changes and some have new features. For example, the Scarlet Crusade in Chapter Four has some new, familiar heroes on their side, while in Chapter Eleven the Horde and Alliance's gunships will be joining the pitched battle in Icecrown.
• A couple of cinematics have new scenes in order to improve the pacing of the story.
• A lot of other minor fixes and changes ensuring a more overall polished experience.

I am very excited for you all to play this update. It's been a long time since I've done anything Warcraft 3 related, so it has been a lot of fun working on this. After this update, Curse of the Forsaken will be, in my opinion, a truly polished experience.


State of Rise of the Blood Elves

Read more here about my intention for an update for Rise of the Blood Elves: Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0


Discord server

Additionally, I've created a Discord server for the discussion of my campaigns. I will share screenshots there, ask for suggestions if I need any, and update you on the progress of the campaign as I'm working on it. I have made separate channels for discussing RotBE and CotF. Feel free to join if you'd like to discuss my campaigns and share any of your own suggestions.

Click here to join: Join the Tomoraider's WC3 Campaigns Discord Server!

Hey, I've tried to join the discord server but it says invitation it's expired, can I get other?

 

[tomoraider]

Hey, I've tried to join the discord server but it says invitation it's expired, can I get other?

Hey, here's a new invite link: Join the Tomoraider's WC3 Campaigns Discord Server!

 

[U-K6]

just finished hard mode today and i am gonna be honest i expected it to be a total nightmare but was pleasantly on how balanced all difficulties so that it wasn't just a grind of sitting in your base till you get all upgrades then attack
thank you for providing such a great experience once again!

 

[D35]

This is a masterpiece. It is at the same level that a Blizzard Campaign if not better. It's my favorite campaign so far. The last 5 missions are pure art. I'm very surprissed by the level design, everything fits perfect. ★★★★★

 

[tomoraider]

just finished hard mode today and i am gonna be honest i expected it to be a total nightmare but was pleasantly on how balanced all difficulties so that it wasn't just a grind of sitting in your base till you get all upgrades then attack
thank you for providing such a great experience once again!

This is a masterpiece. It is at the same level that a Blizzard Campaign if not better. It's my favorite campaign so far. The last 5 missions are pure art. I'm very surprissed by the level design, everything fits perfect. ★★★★★

Thanks for playing, glad you liked it!

 

[nightknight919]

hi , great campaign!
but in chapter 6 my game keeps crashing , idk why
can someone help me? I really want to play this campaign

 

[Ravager16829]

hi , great campaign!
but in chapter 6 my game keeps crashing , idk why
can someone help me? I really want to play this campaign

Provide the game version first if you ask something about problems with the campaigns. This is really important.

 

[BaiyuGalan]

Epic level campaign

 

[nightknight919]

Provide the game version first if you ask something about problems with the campaigns. This is really important.

oh sorry , 1.36

 

[Ravager16829]

oh sorry , 1.36

You have to wait for the next update. The author says that he will probably release a next update called "CotF Classic" or something similar for the 1.36.

 

[nightknight919]

You have to wait for the next update. The author says that he will probably release a next update called "CotF Classic" or something similar for the 1.36.

thx for the information

 

[tomoraider]

Hey everyone! As you may recall, a few months back I had said CotF Classic would take a month or two to be finished, which I very much overestimated. But the scope of the project has significantly grown since those few months back and there is a lot more work to do than I had originally intended.

So I wanted to give something back, and December is the best month to share winter-themed content. Enjoy this first proper view into the update, an overhaul of the previous version of this very familiar cinematic.

I discuss my work on the campaign regularly with the members of my Discord server and share work in progress, feel free to join if you'd like to participate: Join the Tomoraider's WC3 Campaigns Discord Server!

 

[Ardenaso]

noice, can I also expect proper involvement of the Argent Crusade?

 

[tomoraider]

noice, can I also expect proper involvement of the Argent Crusade?

Sadly no, given the already large cast of characters as well as the focus on the Forsaken there isn't enough space for me to add the Argent Crusade.

 

[Trương Nhật]

excellent campaign

 

[Araxiel]

This and Rise of the Blood Elves have to be my fav campaigns of all time - magnificent, you did such justice to those races, characters, stories - I'm in awe and touched

 

[tomoraider]

excellent campaign

This and Rise of the Blood Elves have to be my fav campaigns of all time - magnificent, you did such justice to those races, characters, stories - I'm in awe and touched

Thank you, glad you both enjoyed playing!

 

[Äiäkiin]

Where can I get that lovely undead worker model? I cannot find it on hive.

 

[Raxistaicho]

Chapter 2 won't load I'm stuck on a black screen

 

[Ravager16829]

Chapter 2 won't load I'm stuck on a black screen

Check your game version. There were many comments regarding this matter. I even posted the picture about detailed instructions in order for this campaign to be playable long time ago. However, since the detailed instructions was deleted for some reason by the moderator, I couldn't give an exact methods here. Go to the previous posts of this thread and look for solution.