Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[Zelda95]

is there a set date for version 3.0?

 

[Tomred]

Good to know. I haven't seen any other mac users in this thread reporting the same issue, so hopefully it's not a widespread problem. But hopefully they smooth out the compatibility bugs soon.

No, it happens on my mac as well. (OS X, playing the latest version of WC3). I encounter freezes with about a third of the custom campaigns. It specifically happens when I select a hero character, forcing me to force-quit the whole game. Tomoraider's two campaigns are the most affected by this issue, unfortunately.

 

[Anaxie]

As said before to previous user

The issue is having a Mac and potential software or asset incompatability which a huge deterrent staple of the apple OS

Make better and cheaper consumer decisions in the future.

Many games need specific mac versions. OS majority of hive assets are created or developed on is windows.

 

[Hans22]

It's almost february and we still don't see an update, wtf Tomoraider, it's outrageus.
Please, I don't have a job, I have symptoms of depression, I have to fix my life so I don't have time to wait for COTF, Give me campaign NOW!

Spoiler

 

[tomoraider]

I'm on a bit of a break from the campaign. I've got some issues with a crash, not completely sure how I want to do some of the parts remaining, and there's some other stuff going on so I just don't feel like working on it right now.

 

[Hans22]

Neeeeeeeein!!!
It's ok, we will wait, don't rush it. I've recently finished RotBE and it's awesome .

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Hey tomoraider

I've restarted your campaign a couple of days ago and I found out a few changes that could be very nice

First, QWER hotkeys for unit abilities would be a big deal
Both spells on Sylvanas' Ultimate are using W (Slow and Howl)

On chapter 4, when you re-unite your heroes
The AI controling Balnazzar's forces was doing some really weird stuff
Like making another shadowhall in the main base, upgrading the expansion into keep and not producing any unit
I think you should have a look at the AI, and maybe add some demons there to increase difficulty
On TFT Bal had a quite epic death, while here it's pretty low level

On the same mission, before, Dalaran was territory of the scourge (purple undead) and I think there was an item or 2 in the area
Now that you added Rhonin, we don't have access anymore and there's barely any drop on the map

On Chapter 3 the clans seem really weird, a bit of ogres, a bit of red drakes and a bit of .... darkspear
First, I know It might be a bit too much, but add a new model for this map could be nice, 'cough' Tauer 'cough' Blackrock Grunt 'cough'
About the witch doctor, there's a very simple solution, change model to the Ice Troll Priest

Alright that's all the issues I've found at the moment
I'm currently playing the defense of Orgrimmar and if I find more issues/suggestions I'll come back here

Keep up the good work
This campaign is one of the best I ever played

WE ARE THE FORSAKEN

 

[tulee]

Hey tomoraider

I've restarted your campaign a couple of days ago and I found out a few changes that could be very nice

First, QWER hotkeys for unit abilities would be a big deal
Both spells on Sylvanas' Ultimate are using W (Slow and Howl)

On chapter 5, when you re-unite your heroes
The AI controling Balnazzar's forces was doing some really weird stuff
Like making another shadowhall in the main base, upgrading the expansion into keep and not producing any unit
I think you should have a look at the AI, and maybe add some demons there to increase difficulty
On TFT Bal had a quite epic death, while here it's pretty low level

On the same mission, before, Dalaran was territory of the scourge (purple undead) and I think there was an item or 2 in the area
Now that you added Rhonin, we don't have access anymore and there's barely any drop on the map

On Chapter 4 the clans seem really weird, a bit of ogres, a bit of red drakes and a bit of .... darkspear
First, I know It might be a bit too much, but add a new model for this map could be nice, 'cough' Tauer 'cough' Blackrock Grunt 'cough'
About the witch doctor, there's a very simple solution, change model to the Ice Troll Priest

Alright that's all the issues I've found at the moment
I'm currently playing the defense of Orgrimmar and if I find more issues/suggestions I'll come back here

Keep up the good work
This campaign is one of the best I ever played

WE ARE THE FORSAKEN

If you really enjoy it, perhaps wait until 3.0 comes out until you finish it, it seems to have some major updates that will make the campaign a lot more fun.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Nah man, the campaign is just too good, and I don't have the patience for it
I will record both version, and I think I also got a very old version of it in my files
Before the forsaken building set arrives

I'm pretty sure I'll be done with 2.1 by the time 3.0 arrives don't worry

 

[tomoraider]

Hey tomoraider

I've restarted your campaign a couple of days ago and I found out a few changes that could be very nice

First, QWER hotkeys for unit abilities would be a big deal
Both spells on Sylvanas' Ultimate are using W (Slow and Howl)

On chapter 4, when you re-unite your heroes
The AI controling Balnazzar's forces was doing some really weird stuff
Like making another shadowhall in the main base, upgrading the expansion into keep and not producing any unit
I think you should have a look at the AI, and maybe add some demons there to increase difficulty
On TFT Bal had a quite epic death, while here it's pretty low level

On the same mission, before, Dalaran was territory of the scourge (purple undead) and I think there was an item or 2 in the area
Now that you added Rhonin, we don't have access anymore and there's barely any drop on the map

On Chapter 3 the clans seem really weird, a bit of ogres, a bit of red drakes and a bit of .... darkspear
First, I know It might be a bit too much, but add a new model for this map could be nice, 'cough' Tauer 'cough' Blackrock Grunt 'cough'
About the witch doctor, there's a very simple solution, change model to the Ice Troll Priest

Alright that's all the issues I've found at the moment
I'm currently playing the defense of Orgrimmar and if I find more issues/suggestions I'll come back here

Keep up the good work
This campaign is one of the best I ever played

WE ARE THE FORSAKEN

Thanks for the suggestions. Most of these have already been addressed in v3.0.

 

[Wooden PC]

Hey tomoraider
Will this update be finished this month? I've waited so long for it.
Just asking, no rush

 

[Jayborino]

Just replayed through v2.1 - can someone explain the best way approach the Varimathras fight in the last mission? The amount of demons becomes absolutely bananas, so I feel as if I'm missing something to it. I didn't have a problem with him in the earlier map because you have siege weaponry that quickly destroys the portals. Somehow I beat this when I played it a year ago when making a video, but I'm not sure how, haha!

Some other notes since I just played it again and I know tomoraider may be plugging along on a v3.0, I'll try not to repeat what others have recently. Sorry if you've already addressed any of this!

Overall, text scroll speed can be lengthened, feels rushed.

In Chapter 4, the ramp to the northern, air-focused enemy base is very small and near impossible to move up because of pathing. I assume this was an unspoken "DON'T GO HERE", but it's tough lesson to learn at the cost of a whole army. What about just making it entirely separate with no ramp at all since they only send air units? Otherwise, consider take out the trees and/or increase the ramp size. Althien continues to attack you after the Balthazar reveal if his base was left standing , which is fine, but he is also not hostile to the other Undead - just confirming if this is intentional or not.

Chapter 5 could offer some way to get more gold throughout. The addition of some sort of anti-air reinforcements in the second section would be very welcome, maybe Trolls, and a slightly higher supply cap.

Chapter 7 really starves the player for lumber! If not meant to be intentional, please add more trees.

Chapters 9/10, Lor'themar kept trying to sell items I gave him in Chapter 8, not sure if that can even be fixed. I had to make sure to pick up the Crimson Choker or it would have been lost in between missions from being left on the ground.

Chapter 9, the countdown at the end is surprising and stopped me from completing the side objective. The player needs to make sure to go for Sindragosa first, but she is positioned beyond the bases and out of the way. Brainstorming how to address this - you could add some dialogue when the objective pops up subtly suggesting that she should be taken care of before finishing the Vry'kul bases or she may flee. You could maybe have her sent Frost Wyrms semi-infrequently which would incentivize the player to go after her earlier because it would be annoying, heh.

Chapter 11, Varimathras is hard.

 

[tomoraider]

Just replayed through v2.1 - can someone explain the best way approach the Varimathras fight in the last mission? The amount of demons becomes absolutely bananas, so I feel as if I'm missing something to it. I didn't have a problem with him in the earlier map because you have siege weaponry that quickly destroys the portals. Somehow I beat this when I played it a year ago when making a video, but I'm not sure how, haha!

Some other notes since I just played it again and I know tomoraider may be plugging along on a v3.0, I'll try not to repeat what others have recently. Sorry if you've already addressed any of this!

Overall, text scroll speed can be lengthened, feels rushed.

In Chapter 4, the ramp to the northern, air-focused enemy base is very small and near impossible to move up because of pathing. I assume this was an unspoken "DON'T GO HERE", but it's tough lesson to learn at the cost of a whole army. What about just making it entirely separate with no ramp at all since they only send air units? Otherwise, consider take out the trees and/or increase the ramp size. Althien continues to attack you after the Balthazar reveal if his base was left standing , which is fine, but he is also not hostile to the other Undead - just confirming if this is intentional or not.

Chapter 5 could offer some way to get more gold throughout. The addition of some sort of anti-air reinforcements in the second section would be very welcome, maybe Trolls, and a slightly higher supply cap.

Chapter 7 really starves the player for lumber! If not meant to be intentional, please add more trees.

Chapters 9/10, Lor'themar kept trying to sell items I gave him in Chapter 8, not sure if that can even be fixed. I had to make sure to pick up the Crimson Choker or it would have been lost in between missions from being left on the ground.

Chapter 9, the countdown at the end is surprising and stopped me from completing the side objective. The player needs to make sure to go for Sindragosa first, but she is positioned beyond the bases and out of the way. Brainstorming how to address this - you could add some dialogue when the objective pops up subtly suggesting that she should be taken care of before finishing the Vry'kul bases or she may flee. You could maybe have her sent Frost Wyrms semi-infrequently which would incentivize the player to go after her earlier because it would be annoying, heh.

Chapter 11, Varimathras is hard.

Honestly, it's been so long since I last did that Varimathras fight, I cannot remember what was the right strategy. But that fight is gone in v3.0!

Everything else you listed has already been addressed. Some of these things have been removed, some altered in some way and some have simply been fixed. Still, thanks for effort of listing them all!

 

[Jayborino]

Honestly, it's been so long since I last did that Varimathras fight, I cannot remember what was the right strategy. But that fight is gone in v3.0!

Everything else you listed has already been addressed. Some of these things have been removed, some altered in some way and some have simply been fixed. Still, thanks for effort of listing them all!

Really looking forward to it I'll stream it over a weekend like I did for RotBE.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Really looking forward to it I'll stream it over a weekend like I did for RotBE.

Its actually easy as fuck (well it took me 3 times to notice it but w/e)
Once you trigger Vari, fight a bit, wait for him to become vulnerable once again
Go through the portals and bait him until he comes, only a few demons will come out
And once Vari is out, well it's quite Ez
I've tried this fight inside the area and I always failed, units getting stucked, casters getting aimed down
Nah, it's not the way

Hopefully 3.0 will bring different difficulties for walkthrough/playthrough on yt

Chapter 4 :
They key for the north base is to make 7-8 gargoyles, micro them with Stone Form to not lose any of them
Take control of the sky and while you keep the gryphons busy, go in with your army
As silly as it might sound, with all the tomes, sylvanas is almost your best tank
Now, sure Darkclaw is really good as well but you should have not any problems entering the town
Spam Q on Darkclaw, it's broken, use silence from Sylv to cancel shackles etc ...

You can watch what I did here, from 37:05 mins

With the amount of gold you have (infinite) it should not be a problem anyway

About Chapter 5 ...
Alright frost wyrms are annoying but with Jaina's R, normal dps or even chain lightning it's not such a big deal
And about suppy cap ... your units are already free, what do you ask more ?
By the way, the end chapter mechanic needs to be changed, you can just spam and win without heroes
Spirit walkers are broken and should be nerfeed

Chapter 7
With the valkyrs? Agreed, I had to bring ghouls to the undead base because I had not enough for the final push

I also agree with the other chapters, 11 really need different difficulties, a bigger area for varimathras
On the chapter with Sindragosa ... Lorthemar took the item ... I was like : you f***** b****

 

[MagicCampaign]

Where are you Curse of the Forsaken v3.0?

 

[Mavcik]

Just about 15 minutes I found out that you are working on v3.0. THAT'S Amazing!!! How is it going?
But above that I wanted to put some of my own thoughts about this project's difficulty.
First of all its not too hard, I've beat both first and 2nd version on highest difficulty. And i don't think about myself as some kick-ass player.
If you are thinking about making it easier maybe put 3 difficulty levels, to keep everyone happy?
I'm too tired to think about every other point I wanted to make so I'll put them later.
"End my(our) torment" and finish this please <3
Best regards from Poland ;D

 

[Chronos Darkrift]

Hey I'm new to the community. I downloaded your campaign recently and after the little bit i have played i am thoroughly impressed. You have done a great job with this. One thing i would like to suggest however is having the text for the in-game cinematics linger slightly longer before changing to the next line of dialog. May not really be a problem for most however anyone like myself would benefit from this as i am horribly slow at reading resulting in parts of the dialog to be missed. Would be cool if you could tweak this. Either way excellent job. Hope you plan on making others.

 

[Raven80]

When version 3.0 will be released ? Cant wait any longer

 

[tomoraider]

Hey everyone, some info where I'm at with Curse of the Forsaken v3.0. I've been pretty busy lately, so I haven't really felt like working on it, but I'm hoping to get back into it soon. It's actually almost done, there is only one chapter left to be finished as well as some cinematics, but I just need to get back into it.

Regardless I will also wait for the new 1.29 patch to come out and see what might need fixing if necessary, as well as changing some stuff. Both Forsaken and the Alliance can now be blue team color since there is a new darker blue!

 

[ZodiackTV]

Good to hear! Due to the patch, though, are you going to update RotBE aswell?

 

[tomoraider]

Good to hear! Due to the patch, though, are you going to update RotBE aswell?

Yeah, I plan to do that, as well as some minor updates and changes to reflect some new stuff in CotF v3.0.

 

[Antares.old]

can't wait to see this campaign coming out *v*

And can´t wait to see a third campaign of yours too xD

 

[Raven80]

Sooo, any news about version 3.0 ? Cant wait any longer

 

[tomoraider]

Sooo, any news about version 3.0 ? Cant wait any longer

Working on it. Slowly, but it's happening!

 

[Verb8im]

Working on it. Slowly, but it's happening!

Didn't you say you were almost/pretty much done with it?

 

[tomoraider]

Didn't you say you were almost/pretty much done with it?

I only just recently got back into it. Regardless, I said almost done because I was only counting by chapters left to be finished since there is only one, but it's not really a fair assessment since there is quite a bit of things to do still. Anyway I'd better not give an estimate this time when it might be done because I have no idea, it would probably just end up not getting finished by then either. So, channeling Blizzard, it will be done soon™.

 

[Kyrbi0]

So, channeling Blizzard, it will be done soon™.

 

[tomoraider]

I walked right into this one

 

[barbaronaa]

Take your time don't rush good things happen slowly

 

[Kalakhanjar]

the game unable to load the other chapter's after "echoes of the past" chapter.

 

[tomoraider]

the game unable to load the other chapter's after "echoes of the past" chapter.

You have to patch Warcraft 3. Some chapters won't load on earlier versions of the game.

 

[Kalakhanjar]

You have to patch Warcraft 3. Some chapters won't load on earlier versions of the game.

I am using patch 1.21 but if i install patch 1.28 than all my progress gets lost,so please give a solution to it.

 

[OnyxTheDark]

Who plays on 1.21 nowdays -_-
It's not the maker's fault if players are using VERY OLD versions to play a campaign that requires latest patch ~~
So no, tomoraider DOESN'T HAVE to fix your own issue
It's not a bug from the campaign its a bug from you, live with it

 

[MrBlastoff]

I am using patch 1.21 but if i install patch 1.28 than all my progress gets lost,so please give a solution to it.

I don't know a lot about bank data, but I can't imagine it gets lost when you patch the game. Unless I'm missing something?

 

[tomoraider]

Who plays on 1.21 nowdays -_-
It's not the maker's fault if players are using VERY OLD versions to play a campaign that requires latest patch ~~
So no, tomoraider DOESN'T HAVE to fix your own issue
It's not a bug from the campaign its a bug from you, live with it

No need to be so disrespectful.

I am using patch 1.21 but if i install patch 1.28 than all my progress gets lost,so please give a solution to it.

It probably happens because 1.28 changes the location of the game's save and cache data to My Documents, so it might not transfer correctly. I think you could copy it over yourself and it should work, but it would probably be easier if you just update to 1.27, the campaign should work on that as well.

 

[Kalakhanjar]

Who plays on 1.21 nowdays -_-
It's not the maker's fault if players are using VERY OLD versions to play a campaign that requires latest patch ~~
So no, tomoraider DOESN'T HAVE to fix your own issue
It's not a bug from the campaign its a bug from you, live with it

who told you that i am asking the developer to fix his campaign rather i m saying that i am using an older patch because all my saved progress gets lost due to updated patch. so , i am just asking to help me in this situation.

 

[Kalakhanjar]

No need to be so disrespectful.

it's ok tomoraider ,i didn't mind what onysthedark said because i don't take things personally though thank you for supporting me.

It probably happens because 1.28 changes the location of the game's save and cache data to My Documents, so it might not transfer correctly. I think you could copy it over yourself and it should work, but it would probably be easier if you just update to 1.27, the campaign should work on that as well.

ok i'll try to do that. Thankx!!

 

[Mochi King]

Can I have your voice samples for he characters? They seem really awesome to use.

 

[tomoraider]

Can I have your voice samples for he characters? They seem really awesome to use.

They're from WoW and Heroes of the Storm, so you're free to use them as well.

 

[Currentmaster]

Have you thought about changing chapter 7 because the map is very similar to the first Northrend mission in TFT. And what do you think about adding adjustable difficulties like in Turnro's campaigns?

 

[tomoraider]

Have you thought about changing chapter 7 because the map is very similar to the first Northrend mission in TFT. And what do you think about adding adjustable difficulties like in Turnro's campaigns?

That map has been updated, not completely revamped, but it plays somewhat differently now. And yes, there will be three difficulties in v3.0, easy, medium and hard.

 

[rgeddie123456]

I've played a bit and I like it.
Looking forward to v 3.0
May I know when you will be releasing it?

 

[tomoraider]

So it seems working on the new 1.29 patch makes the campaign unplayable on 1.28. Maps won't load at all. So I think I will finish the campaign on 1.28, then do a 1.29 version with some new stuff (and fixes if anything breaks), release the 1.29 version, while also providing a link to the 1.28 version. But I will then continue to support only the 1.29 version in the future, the 1.28 version would only be updated if anything comes up that needs urgent fixing.

As for the work on the final map, it's halfway finished. This might one of the more challenging maps I've worked on, it's been though figuring it out so far, but it's coming along quite nicely!

I've played a bit and I like it.
Looking forward to v 3.0
May I know when you will be releasing it?

Thanks! I'm hoping to finish it soon-ish.

 

[RanCatu1020]

I can’t play wow due to some reasons, that’s why I want to Thank you very much tomo for bringing the experience to wc3, because of your campaigns I was kept in touch with the story of Warcraft!

 

[PieX]

great campaign so far. but yeah perhaps a difficulty option would be nice for future version. i can see casual players could have some problems. even i sometimes get overwhelmed at the start due to how fast the enemies start to attack our base when i was just starting to figure out the new stuffs.

and not a big deal, but the cleaving attack passive skill description on lord darkclaw hero in ch2 still said "pit lord". probably just my OCD kicking in

but yeah 5/5

 

[tomoraider]

great campaign so far. but yeah perhaps a difficulty option would be nice for future version. i can see casual players could have some problems. even i sometimes get overwhelmed at the start due to how fast the enemies start to attack our base when i was just starting to figure out the new stuffs.

and not a big deal, but the cleaving attack passive skill description on lord darkclaw hero in ch2 still said "pit lord". probably just my OCD kicking in

but yeah 5/5

Glad you liked it. Multiple difficulties will be coming in the v3.0 update.

 

[Anaxie]

When can we expect the release. Next 2 weeks?

 

[tomoraider]

It's here: Curse of the Forsaken v3.0! It took a while, sixteen months to be precise (even though I didn't work consistently), but it's finally done!

You can read the semi-full changelog in the campaign's description (every map has received a ton of minor changes, those aren't listed, only the bigger, more noticable changes are listed), but here's a brief list of the biggest changes:

- The campaign now contains four optional CGI cinematics. You can choose in the first map to instead view ingame versions of them.
- The campaign now has three difficulties: easy, normal and hard.
- New chapter: Chapter Four – Devil’s Deal.
- Four completely revamped chapters, while all others have received updates of varying sizes.
- Two new interludes.
- Massively updated storyline and almost all dialogues rewritten.
- New background music, taken from World of Warcraft.
- Lots of new soundtracks throughout the campaign in cinematics and boss fights.
- New major characters: Bolvar Fordragon, Grand Apothecary Putress.
- Several characters have reduced roles in the storyline, while few have increased roles.
- Apothecary Phaelynne’s role in the story has been taken over by Grand Apothecary Putress.

Otherwise, I want to say I'm really proud of how this campaign turned out. I tried out a lot of stuff that were new for me, and I think it all turned out pretty good. I hope you will all enjoy it as well. I also think this is the final big update my campaigns will receive. After eight years, they've both reached a point where they mostly match the original vision I had for them and I'm really happy with both of them now. I'm sure I will continue to do minor updates in the future, bug fixes and all that, but I very much doubt there will be any more updates of this scale.

I'm sure many of you are also wondering whether I will make a new campaign. I honestly very much doubt it, as I said many times in the past. Rise of the Blood Elves and Curse of the Forsaken have been passion projects of mine that came to be because of how much I loved Warcraft 3 and the blood elf and Forsaken storylines when I was younger, and I haven't found any other part of Warcraft lore that I enjoyed as much.

One thing I will do is an update for Rise of the Blood Elves to incorporate some new stuff I added to Curse of the Forsaken v3.0, though I'm sure I will also find some other stuff to change as well.

So this is it. Try out the campaign, report as quick as you can if you encounter any bugs, and I can't wait to hear your feedback!

 

[RanCatu1020]

YOU. ARE. THE. BEST.